Jim Carrey has finally lost the plot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIaY0l5qV0c)
I know what he means, but he sounds like Tom Cruise here.
Yeah, so do I. It happens every time I take a hit of acid.
But yeah, what you said. It's kinda scary.
Fuck, I awakened just this morning.
It was totally authentic.
But it felt like shit.
Eh. I can see that. Not sure what I think about Eckhart Tolle though.
Quote from: Lysergic on December 02, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
Yeah, so do I. It happens every time I take a hit of acid.
But yeah, what you said. It's kinda scary.
I've had it happen without acid, but I would hope I wouldn't sound like THAT if I was talking about it. I guess I probably would.
I have no idea what the hell he's talking about??
He used to be handsome, now I'm just confused..
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on December 02, 2010, 04:28:39 PM
I have no idea what the hell he's talking about??
He used to be handsome, now I'm just confused..
I think he found a spirituality meditation thing.
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on December 02, 2010, 04:28:39 PM
I have no idea what the hell he's talking about??
He used to be handsome, now I'm just confused..
HE WANTS YOUR THETANS!
Oh that son of a bitch :argh!:
Those aren't for sharing!
He's not really into Scientology, is he??
I don't think it's scientology. Apparently he's into this guy (and also Cannibal Corpse, lol)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle#Teachings
Carrey always struck me a a Transcendental Meditation guy.
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on December 02, 2010, 04:58:40 PM
Oh that son of a bitch :argh!:
Those aren't for sharing!
He's not really into Scientology, is he??
I don't think so... that video just reminds me of those Tom Cruise speeches. He does believe in nuttery though, he back up Dr. Jenny McCarthy in her anti-vaccination bullshit. And he takes the 23 Enigma seriously. *SNIFFFF*
He's just attempting to describe an experience of Kensho. He's obviously stoked about his experience, but I don't think he sounds like Tom Cruise in that video.
Quote from: Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster on December 02, 2010, 05:22:26 PM
He's just attempting to describe an experience of Kensho. He's obviously stoked about his experience, but I don't think he sounds like Tom Cruise in that video.
He sounds more like Ace Ventura... or perhaps that mope from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
I think he got lost somewhere.
Shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque
This would be a perfect opportunity to start sending stuff his way. ;)
Woah. That's the kind of testimonial bullshit that should be saved for when you're getting high with your pals.
Quote from: Jenne on December 02, 2010, 07:35:51 PM
Woah. That's the kind of testimonial bullshit that should be saved for when you're getting high paid with your pals.
Fixed.
I doubt he needs the money.
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2010, 05:09:06 PM
Carrey always struck me a a Transcendental Meditation guy.
I LOATHE TM. LOATHE IT.
THAT'S NICE, BUT THIS ISN'T TM.
CLICK BLIGHT'S LINK ABOVE.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on December 02, 2010, 08:29:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2010, 05:09:06 PM
Carrey always struck me a a Transcendental Meditation guy.
I LOATHE TM. LOATHE IT.
You're just jealous you cannot manifest Yogic Flying
(though, to be fair, neither can anyone practicing TM)
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2010, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: Sir Coyote on December 02, 2010, 08:29:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2010, 05:09:06 PM
Carrey always struck me a a Transcendental Meditation guy.
I LOATHE TM. LOATHE IT.
You're just jealous you cannot manifest Yogic Flying
(though, to be fair, neither can anyone practicing TM)
Yogic Flying is one of the funniest things in the world.
"After training in our monastery, you will not go out into town and claim you have super powers, even if you do." (sort of) - from "Lamb" by Christopher Moore
I fail to see where the fun in that is.
I didn't laugh at his joke, but I laughed when he said he wants to take as many people with him as he can.
So do I, Jim. So do I...
Quote from: Sigmatic on December 02, 2010, 08:54:45 PM
I didn't laugh at his joke, but I laughed when he said he wants to take as many people with him as he can.
So do I, Jim. So do I...
inorite? Had that same thought.
Tolle is annoying but at least he's not this assbag:
http://www.danmillman.com/
And neither has the talent, grace and elegance in bullshitting that this man did:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti
Certainly Millman pilfered from Krishnamurti, not sure about tolle.
Either way it'd be nice to see this kind of celebrity presentation with more :barstool:
Maybe a mix of this and Tom Cruise from magnolia. Or any time really.
Quote from: Telarus on December 02, 2010, 07:34:05 PM
This would be a perfect opportunity to start sending stuff his way. ;)
CarreyGASM, anyone?
Quote from: Sir Coyote on December 02, 2010, 08:29:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2010, 05:09:06 PM
Carrey always struck me a a Transcendental Meditation guy.
I LOATHE TM. LOATHE IT.
I think it's absolutely hilarious. And great for strengthening your leg muscles with all that lotus position hopping around, I mean, uh, "yogic flying".
Wait, is this like Eckanckar? I dated a guy who grew up with that. For like a minute.
You know what? He may be some movie star, but I don't smack on people for enjoying themselves in whatever the hell they want to do with their lives. There's real happenings behind numinous and mystical experiences, and I think it's cool he actually had that experience. The same sort of experience /I've/ had before.
I do have a problem, however, with his craving for it. But that's another issue entirely.
Quote from: ϗ on December 03, 2010, 03:56:33 AM
You know what? He may be some movie star, but I don't smack on people for enjoying themselves in whatever the hell they want to do with their lives. There's real happenings behind numinous and mystical experiences, and I think it's cool he actually had that experience. The same sort of experience /I've/ had before.
I do have a problem, however, with his craving for it. But that's another issue entirely.
Well, that's the thing, I totally relate and know what he's going on about, and I'm happy for him, really, but I got a feeling this may be the start of something... I dunno. Just that for some reason, it bugs me.
Quote from: Richter on December 02, 2010, 08:45:54 PM
"After training in our monastery, you will not go out into town and claim you have super powers, even if you do." (sort of) - from "Lamb" by Christopher Moore
Funny, I read some stuff about Buddhism or meditation, that said on the path to Enlightenment (there were 8 steps in this path, IIRC, in this particular teachings), at some point you might be convinced you have superpowers like clairvoyance and the such. But the text said these are traps and you shouldn't get stuck there but carry on and also destroy this ego-based superpower crap (it didn't dismiss them as unreal or imaginary).
Quote from: ϗ on December 03, 2010, 03:56:33 AM
I do have a problem, however, with his craving for it. But that's another issue entirely.
I dunno, it's not even the craving that bothers me, but rather the smug way he's on a stage telling people about it with this religious gaze in his eyes. It just screams "scam" at me, even if it's sincere.
Apart from that, I do agree, if Jim found this and is enjoying this, who are we to judge that?
Also +1 on trying to mindfuck him with the 23 enigma.
Quote from: ϗ on December 03, 2010, 03:56:33 AM
You know what? He may be some movie star, but I don't smack on people for enjoying themselves in whatever the hell they want to do with their lives. There's real happenings behind numinous and mystical experiences, and I think it's cool he actually had that experience. The same sort of experience /I've/ had before.
I do have a problem, however, with his craving for it. But that's another issue entirely.
Sorry, I just get itchy at testimonials given with fervor and that rapt look on someone's face as they stand on a hugeass stage that smacks of big box church or convention. I grew up with that it and was...disconcerting to say the least.
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 03, 2010, 10:04:27 AM
Funny, I read some stuff about Buddhism or meditation, that said on the path to Enlightenment (there were 8 steps in this path, IIRC, in this particular teachings), at some point you might be convinced you have superpowers like clairvoyance and the such. But the text said these are traps and you shouldn't get stuck there but carry on and also destroy this ego-based superpower crap (it didn't dismiss them as unreal or imaginary).
The difference between walking into Chapel Perilous and just smacking your head against the door over and over and over.... :lulz:
Cool.
Quote from: Ratatosk on December 03, 2010, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on December 03, 2010, 10:04:27 AM
Funny, I read some stuff about Buddhism or meditation, that said on the path to Enlightenment (there were 8 steps in this path, IIRC, in this particular teachings), at some point you might be convinced you have superpowers like clairvoyance and the such. But the text said these are traps and you shouldn't get stuck there but carry on and also destroy this ego-based superpower crap (it didn't dismiss them as unreal or imaginary).
The difference between walking into Chapel Perilous and just smacking your head against the door over and over and over.... :lulz:
Yah. The Rinzai school calls these "Makyo", or hallucinations, and they can manifest as constantly hearing a bamboo flute, being convinced of having superpowers, etc, etc. Wikipedia's got a pretty good description, one sec....
The term makyo (魔境, makyō?) means "ghost cave" or "devil's cave." It is employed in Zen as figurative reference to the kind of self-delusion that results from clinging to an experience and making a conceptual "nest" out of it for oneself. Makyo is, in other words, essentially synonymous with illusion, but the word is used especially in reference to experiences that can occur within meditation practice.
In Philip Kapleau's The Three Pillars of Zen,[1] Yasutani Roshi explained the term as the combination of ma meaning devil and kyo meaning the objective world. This character for "devil" can also refer to Mara, the Buddhist "tempter" figure; and the character kyo can mean simply region, condition or place. Makyo refers to the hallucinations and perceptual distortions that can arise during the course of meditation and can be mistaken by the practitioner as "seeing the true nature" or kensho. Zen masters warn their meditating students to ignore sensory distortions. These can occur in the form of visions and perceptual distortions, but they can also be experiences of blank, trance-like absorption states. In the Zen school, it is understood that neither category of experience – however fascinating they may be – is a true and final enlightenment.
Contemplative literature contains numerous descriptions of the perceptual distortion produced by meditation. It is characterized in some schools as "going to the movies," a sign of spiritual intensity but a phenomenon that is regarded to be distinctly inferior to the clear insight of settled practice. In some Hindu schools it is regarded as a product of the sukshma sharira, or "experience body," in its unstable state, and in that respect is seen to be another form of maya, which is the illusory nature of the world as apprehended by ordinary consciousness.
Tibetan contemplative literature makes use of the perhaps parallel term "nyam", which fall into three categories, usually listed as clarity, bliss, and non-conceptuality. Many types of meditation phenomena can be classed under this rubric, and are generally tied to the reorganization of the body's subtle energies which can occur in meditation. See Dudjom Lingpa, (cited in Wallace, the Attention Revolution), and Padmasambhava (in Treasures from the Juniper Ridge) for more specific examples. Robert Aitken Roshi classifies speaking in tongues as "elaborate[theatrical -Tel] makyo" (Taking the Path of Zen).