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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 03:40:05 PM

Title: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: LMNO on January 18, 2011, 03:40:05 PM
http://www.whistleblower.org/press/gap-in-the-news/933-on-the-media-npr-whistleblower-update

QuoteOn December 22nd, in the face of overwhelming bipartisan support, the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act was killed at the last minute when a mystery Senator placed what's called an anonymous hold on the bill. Tom Devine, of the Government Accountability Project, talks about the killing of the bill, and what you, the listener, can do about it.

Basically, OtM is using crowdsourcing to try and track down who did this.  More info as it develops.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Cain on January 18, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
I'm going to, even without reading the article, guess that the Senator in question is a "Blue Dog" Democrat up for election next year and with close ties to certain White House officials.

Why?  Because Obama haet whistleblowers like Bin Laden haet unbelievers, and Blue Dog Democrats not only tend to ideologically align with him on this point, but it also gives them a way to benefit from it, as they can do it in return for heavy support from the President in 2012.

Of course, evidence is nice, and I have none.  But it is interesting NPR dont even bring up the possibility of a Democrat being involved in this.  Yes, Republicans do have previous for using arcane legislative methods to kill bills.  The 108th Congress in particular was notorious for this kind of thing, and Bernie Sanders laid out the problems with it at length in a highly publicized interview with Matt Taibbi.  But that's the problem, it was highly publicized.  Meaning the Democrats know these tricks too.  And Obama's War on Whistleblowers is widely acknowledged as a reality among the civil rights community.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Adios on January 18, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
Obama has turned out to be everything I didn't want.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 18, 2011, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 18, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
Obama has turned out to be everything I didn't want.

At no extra charge!
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2011, 09:12:05 PM
Anonymous hold?  This sounds like a rather odd thing for senators to be able to do.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on January 18, 2011, 09:21:32 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2011, 09:12:05 PM
Anonymous hold?  This sounds like a rather odd thing for senators to be able to do.

:lmnuendo:
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Adios on January 18, 2011, 09:22:30 PM
Quote from: ☄ · · · N E T · · · ☄ on January 18, 2011, 09:21:32 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 18, 2011, 09:12:05 PM
Anonymous hold?  This sounds like a rather odd thing for senators to be able to do.

:lmnuendo:

Well, they do want to reach across the aisle and sit together.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: the last yatto on January 18, 2011, 09:23:07 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 18, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
Obama has turned out to be everything I didn't want.

Next time vote Emperor Supreme Roger

Or kill me
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Cramulus on January 18, 2011, 09:24:33 PM
I am also surprised that senators can act anonymously! What the fuck is the point of having a representative government if your constituents can't tell what you're up to?
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Adios on January 18, 2011, 09:31:06 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2011, 09:24:33 PM
I am also surprised that senators can act anonymously! What the fuck is the point of having a representative government if your constituents can't tell what you're up to?

Getting votes?
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Cain on January 18, 2011, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 18, 2011, 09:24:33 PM
I am also surprised that senators can act anonymously! What the fuck is the point of having a representative government if your constituents can't tell what you're up to?

Given, at the time, the only models of Republican government the Americans had to go by were the Romans (even more hideously devised for legislative chicanery), the Athenians (Pericles.  Just...Pericles) and the Coriscan Republic (which produced Napoleon as its bitter fruit) it probably seemed like a sensible idea with few downsides.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Jenne on January 22, 2011, 05:16:21 AM
Yeah, but it's a bullshit move.  I didn't know they could do this.  What a crock of shit.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: LMNO on March 07, 2011, 06:10:23 PM
Update: All but 4 senators have confirmed they did NOT kill the bill.  The 4 are:

Jon Kyl (R-AZ) 202-224-4521
Jeff Sessions (R-AL) 202-224-4124
James Risch (R-ID) 202-224-2752
Mitch McConnell (R-KY) 202-224-2541

Who would have thought it would be a Republican...  :|

Anyway, if anyone here lives in one of those states wants to give them a call and bug them about it, please do.



Note: The above phone numbers are to their offices in DC, and are part of the public record.  I don't consider it personal information.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on March 07, 2011, 06:10:23 PM
Update: All but 4 senators have confirmed they did NOT kill the bill.  The 4 are:

Jon Kyl (R-AZ) 202-224-4521
Jeff Sessions (R-AL) 202-224-4124
James Risch (R-ID) 202-224-2752
Mitch McConnell (R-KY) 202-224-2541

Who would have thought it would be a Republican...  :|

Anyway, if anyone here lives in one of those states wants to give them a call and bug them about it, please do.



Note: The above phone numbers are to their offices in DC, and are part of the public record.  I don't consider it personal information.

My money says Kyl.  He's the biggest whore in the legislature.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Jasper on March 08, 2011, 02:16:27 AM
That is saying something.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 08, 2011, 03:18:30 AM
I dunno about how big a whore he is, but every time he opens his mouth I wish I had a small nuclear weapon to get rid of capitol hill with.  So Roger's probably gonna wine that bet.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Disco Pickle on March 08, 2011, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 08, 2011, 03:18:30 AM
I dunno about how big a whore he is, but every time he opens his mouth I wish I had a small nuclear weapon to get rid of capitol hill with.  So Roger's probably gonna wine that bet.

^  probably not the smartest thing someone should write on a forum..   not that I necessarily disagree, just time and place and all.

Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Jasper on March 08, 2011, 07:55:08 PM
Anyone prowling these forums with an antiterror agenda probably knows that they're being paid to read brilliant satire, by now.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Telarus on March 09, 2011, 02:19:02 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on March 08, 2011, 07:55:08 PM
Anyone prowling these forums with an antiterror agenda probably knows that they're being paid to read brilliant satire, by now.


HELLO OUT THERE FROM SPAGLAND TO ANYONE READING OVER SIG'S "SHOULDER".
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Jasper on March 09, 2011, 02:25:11 AM
What.  I'm the kind of guy who will occasionally break the fourth wall, just in case somebody's watching.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Don Coyote on March 09, 2011, 02:28:03 AM
Quote from: Pickled Starfish on March 08, 2011, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 08, 2011, 03:18:30 AM
I dunno about how big a whore he is, but every time he opens his mouth I wish I had a small nuclear weapon to get rid of capitol hill with.  So Roger's probably gonna wine that bet.

^  probably not the smartest thing someone should write on a forum..   not that I necessarily disagree, just time and place and all.



If it were a credible threat, that would have been the last we heard of Req. Just saying.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Requia ☣ on March 09, 2011, 02:31:12 AM
Naw, if they were after me they'd have payed me to plant a fake bomb or something so that they had 'real' evidence instead of just random shit on an internet forum.
Title: Re: On The Media tries to track down anonymous senator who killed Whistleblower bill
Post by: Telarus on March 09, 2011, 02:40:37 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 09, 2011, 02:31:12 AM
Naw, if they were after me they'd have payed me to plant a fake bomb or something so that they had 'real' evidence instead of just random shit on an internet forum.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: