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Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: Jasper on January 23, 2011, 08:45:52 PM

Title: Homo Altruis
Post by: Jasper on January 23, 2011, 08:45:52 PM
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1xninS1GHZNRYCrfw7wJnoN4CQBS4Dm1mLMdAwx34dRE

Original science fiction.   In its current incarnation it's just a plot, actual scenes are not yet written.  Still, this is the longest story I've ever written, and my friends seem to like it.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 24, 2011, 07:01:33 AM
:aww:
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Don Coyote on January 24, 2011, 07:38:04 AM
INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
ERROR 500

Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Phox on January 24, 2011, 07:49:51 AM
Don't have time to thoroughly read right now, but skimmed it a bit. DON'T. USE. PRESENT. TENSE. IN. A. NARRATIVE.

Eh, that's a bit harsh. But seriously, narratives generally flow better when using past tense. And there are certain times when using a present tense instead of past tense is appropriate. But those situations are relatively rare, so it's best to avoid it.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Pæs on January 24, 2011, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 24, 2011, 07:49:51 AM
Don't have time to thoroughly read right now, but skimmed it a bit. DON'T. USE. PRESENT. TENSE. IN. A. NARRATIVE.

Eh, that's a bit harsh. But seriously, narratives generally flow better when using past tense. And there are certain times when using a present tense instead of past tense is appropriate. But those situations are relatively rare, so it's best to avoid it.
I expect the tense will be changed once it's more than an outline of the plot.
If it wasn't going to, though, definitely what Phox said.

I have a tab open with it, intending to read, but busy things keep distracting me.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 24, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
I know my style leaves much to be desired, but this is just a preliminary exercise to plan the story out so I don't get bogged down and quit.  This is by no means finished product. 
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 24, 2011, 04:11:24 PM
Some of that writing, upon revision, is admittedly some ugly shit.  I think I just had to show it to a more critical audience to actually notice.

Bug report:001

The writing is not good

Status: Will fix.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Adios on January 24, 2011, 04:25:53 PM
Stick with it. Let the story write itself. I liked it.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 24, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
Thanks!  That's highly encouraging, coming from you. :D
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Phox on January 24, 2011, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on January 24, 2011, 04:00:50 PM
I know my style leaves much to be desired, but this is just a preliminary exercise to plan the story out so I don't get bogged down and quit.  This is by no means finished product. 
Yeah, what I have been able to read so far is very interesting. Definitely looking forward to getting a chance to finish it. and kinda wondering what you are going to do to flesh it out.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 24, 2011, 07:24:46 PM
Write actual scenes and dialogue, namely.  This is just a plot overview.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Phox on January 24, 2011, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on January 24, 2011, 07:24:46 PM
Write actual scenes and dialogue, namely.  This is just a plot overview.
I meant in terms of how the dialogue and scenes play out, not the literal process.  :lol:
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 24, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
OH.

Yeah.  :lol:

Well, that's what I suck the most at, so it should be fun.

I am thinking about finding a bunch of writers I like, and mimicking their techniques.  Any suggestions for who I should look to for great form?  I'm not planning on copying actual text, just the form and flow of dialogue (since I have little idea how to do it in the first place.)
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Phox on January 24, 2011, 08:11:53 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on January 24, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
OH.

Yeah.  :lol:

Well, that's what I suck the most at, so it should be fun.

I am thinking about finding a bunch of writers I like, and mimicking their techniques.  Any suggestions for who I should look to for great form?  I'm not planning on copying actual text, just the form and flow of dialogue (since I have little idea how to do it in the first place.)

Hmmm. For dialogue, no one beats Twain.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 24, 2011, 08:19:39 PM
Of course!  I actually have a complete works lying around somewhere!  Excellent! :D
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Don Coyote on January 25, 2011, 06:13:05 AM
I AM ANGERED!!!!!! Why is not all Error 500 for me but no one else.  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Remington on January 25, 2011, 06:43:39 AM
This sounds really good! I've always loved stuff that deals with the logical and societal consequences of AIs.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 25, 2011, 09:06:36 AM
It's a perfectly well-written outline, and sounds like it'll make a good story.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Shub-Crackerath on January 25, 2011, 10:23:16 AM
Very cool ideas. I was gutted it was just a short outline though, i could have read that for hours.

more please.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Placid Dingo on January 26, 2011, 04:39:34 AM
I really love the premise, it looks great; hurry up and get it on paper!
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 31, 2011, 09:42:55 AM
Thanks, everybody!  I've been away all week, and I have spontaneously driven 1000+ miles since friday night, so I am very sleepy but I will be catching up soon.

Quote from: Canis latrans eques on January 25, 2011, 06:13:05 AM
I AM ANGERED!!!!!! Why is not all Error 500 for me but no one else.  :cry: :cry: :cry:

Ohh!  Sorry, didn't know what you meant earlier!  Check your PM's.  :)
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on January 31, 2011, 11:19:14 AM
This sounds excellent.

Your outline has my brain buzzing with ideas and questions.

Inspiring and conceptually dense stuff, Sig.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on January 31, 2011, 04:10:56 PM
That's the highest praise I could possibly accept.  I really appreciate it. :)
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Don Coyote on February 04, 2011, 04:42:55 AM
I enjoyed the broad concepts you put forth. I also kept having flashes of scenes and such as if this were a story board for a movie or a graphic novel. I greatly look forward to a fleshed out story.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis, A story by Sigmatic
Post by: Jasper on March 18, 2011, 06:31:27 PM
Ok so I am trying to do more writing. 

Here's what I've got so far for the intro.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ADSXsym6iO7_IoQKGgs0GYF7aPCIKRiTPzLY_pOeZLs
Title: Re: Homo Altruis
Post by: Jasper on March 21, 2011, 06:18:14 PM
Bump.  I'm stuck on what I've got so far until I have some idea if it's right.
Title: Re: Homo Altruis
Post by: Phox on March 21, 2011, 10:45:57 PM
I like it.  :)
Title: Re: Homo Altruis
Post by: The Wizard on March 21, 2011, 10:55:08 PM
Really awesome idea, and I like what you've got so far. Keep it up!
Title: Re: Homo Altruis
Post by: Jasper on March 22, 2011, 12:37:17 AM
Thanks, I just wasn't willing to work on it more until I knew I wasn't wasting my time.  :)
Title: Re: Homo Altruis
Post by: Don Coyote on March 22, 2011, 12:40:45 AM
I like.