QuoteLawmakers in Tehran have recently proposed a bill in parliament that would criminalize dog ownership, formally enshrining its punishment within the country's Islamic penal code. The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards, the popularity of dog ownership "also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West."
The criminalizing of dogs, in this context, helps the government address the legal gray areas concerning lifestyle behavior. When authorities found it difficult to police what it termed Westernized hairstyles worn by young men, it solved the problem last year by releasing a poster of specifically banned styles. These measures are a firm reminder that the government will brook no disobedience, whether it be chanting antigovernment slogans in the streets or sporting excessively long sideburns.
http://time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065873,00.html
No comment. :lulz:
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 20, 2011, 02:13:16 AM
QuoteLawmakers in Tehran have recently proposed a bill in parliament that would criminalize dog ownership, formally enshrining its punishment within the country's Islamic penal code. The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards, the popularity of dog ownership "also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West."
The criminalizing of dogs, in this context, helps the government address the legal gray areas concerning lifestyle behavior. When authorities found it difficult to police what it termed Westernized hairstyles worn by young men, it solved the problem last year by releasing a poster of specifically banned styles. These measures are a firm reminder that the government will brook no disobedience, whether it be chanting antigovernment slogans in the streets or sporting excessively long sideburns.
http://time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065873,00.html
No comment. :lulz:
I don't think banning dogs and banning certain hairstyles are really the same category of action. Dogs do in fact pose a public health hazard if not cared for properly, and they can be very effective assistance when fighting. The hairstyle law was silly, this one, not so much. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but it doesn't strike me as frivolous.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 20, 2011, 02:34:49 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 20, 2011, 02:13:16 AM
QuoteLawmakers in Tehran have recently proposed a bill in parliament that would criminalize dog ownership, formally enshrining its punishment within the country's Islamic penal code. The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards, the popularity of dog ownership "also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West."
The criminalizing of dogs, in this context, helps the government address the legal gray areas concerning lifestyle behavior. When authorities found it difficult to police what it termed Westernized hairstyles worn by young men, it solved the problem last year by releasing a poster of specifically banned styles. These measures are a firm reminder that the government will brook no disobedience, whether it be chanting antigovernment slogans in the streets or sporting excessively long sideburns.
http://time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065873,00.html
No comment. :lulz:
I don't think banning dogs and banning certain hairstyles are really the same category of action. Dogs do in fact pose a public health hazard if not cared for properly, and they can be very effective assistance when fighting. The hairstyle law was silly, this one, not so much. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but it doesn't strike me as frivolous.
I didn't see any 'public health hazard' reasoning mentioned for the banning in the article though, except maybe that last paragraph that posed the question of what would happen to the dogs if the owner's weren't able to care for them due to financial issues. And that was the writers speculation... It didn't come from the lawmakers responsible for the ban - unless I missed something.
On a more positive aspect, they will have effectively banned cruelty to Dogs, Dogfighting, Stray dogs, and having to watch out for Dogshit wherever you walk.
Quote from: BadBeast on April 20, 2011, 03:29:45 AM
On a more positive aspect, they will have effectively banned cruelty to Dogs, Dogfighting, Stray dogs, and having to watch out for Dogshit wherever you walk.
Good point BB. Someone should ban having children! No child abuse, no playground bullying, no orphans, and no more shitty baby diapers to change. :lulz:
Quote from: Aloe on April 20, 2011, 02:59:29 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 20, 2011, 02:34:49 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 20, 2011, 02:13:16 AM
QuoteLawmakers in Tehran have recently proposed a bill in parliament that would criminalize dog ownership, formally enshrining its punishment within the country's Islamic penal code. The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards, the popularity of dog ownership "also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West."
The criminalizing of dogs, in this context, helps the government address the legal gray areas concerning lifestyle behavior. When authorities found it difficult to police what it termed Westernized hairstyles worn by young men, it solved the problem last year by releasing a poster of specifically banned styles. These measures are a firm reminder that the government will brook no disobedience, whether it be chanting antigovernment slogans in the streets or sporting excessively long sideburns.
http://time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065873,00.html
No comment. :lulz:
I don't think banning dogs and banning certain hairstyles are really the same category of action. Dogs do in fact pose a public health hazard if not cared for properly, and they can be very effective assistance when fighting. The hairstyle law was silly, this one, not so much. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but it doesn't strike me as frivolous.
I didn't see any 'public health hazard' reasoning mentioned for the banning in the article though, except maybe that last paragraph that posed the question of what would happen to the dogs if the owner's weren't able to care for them due to financial issues. And that was the writers speculation... It didn't come from the lawmakers responsible for the ban - unless I missed something.
you missed this
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The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards.......
Quote from: Aloe on April 20, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 20, 2011, 03:29:45 AM
On a more positive aspect, they will have effectively banned cruelty to Dogs, Dogfighting, Stray dogs, and having to watch out for Dogshit wherever you walk.
Good point BB. Someone should ban having children! No child abuse, no playground bullying, no orphans, and no more shitty baby diapers to change. :lulz:
That too. It would stop the exponential population explosion.
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 20, 2011, 02:34:49 AM
I don't think banning dogs and banning certain hairstyles are really the same category of action. Dogs do in fact pose a public health hazard if not cared for properly, and they can be very effective assistance when fighting. The hairstyle law was silly, this one, not so much. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but it doesn't strike me as frivolous.
If they were banning dogs for the reasons you listed... that would still be ridiculous, but at least plausibly defensible. But you know they're banning dogs because "omg Western!" and "the imams say they're dirty," which are completely asinine reasons to do anything. Claiming dogs are "public health hazards" is just an excuse so they can try to justify it when people argue with them in non-religious/anti-authoritarian terms.
QuoteOn a more positive aspect, they will have effectively banned cruelty to Dogs, Dogfighting, Stray dogs, and having to watch out for Dogshit wherever you walk.
And all it took was confiscating and killing all the dogs already in the country. :x
Quote from: BadBeast on April 20, 2011, 03:51:07 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 20, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 20, 2011, 03:29:45 AM
On a more positive aspect, they will have effectively banned cruelty to Dogs, Dogfighting, Stray dogs, and having to watch out for Dogshit wherever you walk.
Good point BB. Someone should ban having children! No child abuse, no playground bullying, no orphans, and no more shitty baby diapers to change. :lulz:
That too. It would stop the exponential population explosion.
All NPG all the time.
Quote from: Laughin Jude on April 20, 2011, 03:55:36 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 20, 2011, 02:34:49 AM
I don't think banning dogs and banning certain hairstyles are really the same category of action. Dogs do in fact pose a public health hazard if not cared for properly, and they can be very effective assistance when fighting. The hairstyle law was silly, this one, not so much. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but it doesn't strike me as frivolous.
If they were banning dogs for the reasons you listed... that would still be ridiculous, but at least plausibly defensible. But you know they're banning dogs because "omg Western!" and "the imams say they're dirty," which are completely asinine reasons to do anything. Claiming dogs are "public health hazards" is just an excuse so they can try to justify it when people argue with them in non-religious/anti-authoritarian terms.
QuoteOn a more positive aspect, they will have effectively banned cruelty to Dogs, Dogfighting, Stray dogs, and having to watch out for Dogshit wherever you walk.
And all it took was confiscating and killing all the dogs already in the country. :x
(http://i.imgur.com/xhnaV.jpg)
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 20, 2011, 03:50:55 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 20, 2011, 02:59:29 AM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on April 20, 2011, 02:34:49 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 20, 2011, 02:13:16 AM
QuoteLawmakers in Tehran have recently proposed a bill in parliament that would criminalize dog ownership, formally enshrining its punishment within the country's Islamic penal code. The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards, the popularity of dog ownership "also poses a cultural problem, a blind imitation of the vulgar culture of the West."
The criminalizing of dogs, in this context, helps the government address the legal gray areas concerning lifestyle behavior. When authorities found it difficult to police what it termed Westernized hairstyles worn by young men, it solved the problem last year by releasing a poster of specifically banned styles. These measures are a firm reminder that the government will brook no disobedience, whether it be chanting antigovernment slogans in the streets or sporting excessively long sideburns.
http://time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065873,00.html
No comment. :lulz:
I don't think banning dogs and banning certain hairstyles are really the same category of action. Dogs do in fact pose a public health hazard if not cared for properly, and they can be very effective assistance when fighting. The hairstyle law was silly, this one, not so much. Doesn't mean I agree with it, but it doesn't strike me as frivolous.
I didn't see any 'public health hazard' reasoning mentioned for the banning in the article though, except maybe that last paragraph that posed the question of what would happen to the dogs if the owner's weren't able to care for them due to financial issues. And that was the writers speculation... It didn't come from the lawmakers responsible for the ban - unless I missed something.
you missed this
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The bill warns that that in addition to posing public health hazards.......
Oh fuck, that was even quoted in the OP. lol All I saw was the "imitation of the vulgar culture of the West" part of that sentence.
Our culture is quite vulgar though. They do have a point. (Not about Dogs, I love Dogs)
Quote from: BadBeast on April 20, 2011, 04:15:05 AM
Our culture is quite vulgar though. They do have a point. (Not about Dogs, I love Dogs)
You love vulgar, too...
Quote from: Luna on April 20, 2011, 04:15:42 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on April 20, 2011, 04:15:05 AM
Our culture is quite vulgar though. They do have a point. (Not about Dogs, I love Dogs)
You love vulgar, too...
Well, yeah, . . . . . . . .
Quote from: BadBeast on April 20, 2011, 04:15:05 AM
Our culture is quite vulgar though. They do have a point. (Not about Dogs, I love Dogs)
It is, but I think our pets are one of our least vulgar qualities. Except the 'pets as accessories' trend, which they may have been referring to here: "The cleric Gholamreza Hassani, from the city of Urmia, has been satirized for his sermons railing against "short-legged" and "holdable" dogs."
Wouldn't excessively long sideburns eventually be considered having a beard?
Personally I think this law is silly. But then again so is policing petty things like hairstyles.
I dunno. A ban on fauxhawks might be worthwhile...
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 20, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
I dunno. A ban on fauxhawks might be worthwhile...
A ban on fauxhawks only hides the symptoms, and would let the unclean (those who would willingly wear a fauxhawk) walk undetected among the pure.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 20, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
I dunno. A ban on fauxhawks might be worthwhile...
previous boyfriend was a huge fan of those. It's amazing we couldn't last....
It's ok though, he rebounded with a 17 year old. :vom:
Quote from: Dysnomia on April 20, 2011, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 20, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
I dunno. A ban on fauxhawks might be worthwhile...
previous boyfriend was a huge fan of those. It's amazing we couldn't last....
It's ok though, he rebounded with a 17 year old. :vom:
Erp. Had one of mine do that, too. I was 18, he was 26 (I didn't realize when we started dating, BOY did Dad twitch). When we broke up, he went for the girl who babysat for his sister's kids.
Quote from: Luna on April 20, 2011, 09:49:53 PM
Quote from: Dysnomia on April 20, 2011, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 20, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
I dunno. A ban on fauxhawks might be worthwhile...
previous boyfriend was a huge fan of those. It's amazing we couldn't last....
It's ok though, he rebounded with a 17 year old. :vom:
Erp. Had one of mine do that, too. I was 18, he was 26 (I didn't realize when we started dating, BOY did Dad twitch). When we broke up, he went for the girl who babysat for his sister's kids.
Note to self: If I ever have a daughter Im going to ban her from dating men with Fauxhawks.
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 20, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
I dunno. A ban on fauxhawks might be worthwhile...
And Mullets. I'd be up for a ban on mullets.
GAH. :x
But you know, I keep saying, you wanna defeat Al Qaida and the Talibs in Afghanistan, send in a legion of cats and dogs. Srsly. They'll all run screaming like little girls with their hands up in the air, and will GIVE THE FUCK UP.
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Wouldn't that mean that NONE of their prayers ever reach Mecca?
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:50:09 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Wouldn't that mean that NONE of their prayers ever reach Mecca?
That would seem logical - maybe there's something that annuls the annulment? :lulz:
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:51:13 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:50:09 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Wouldn't that mean that NONE of their prayers ever reach Mecca?
That would seem logical - maybe there's something that annuls the annulment? :lulz:
PRAYERS HOW DO THEY FUCKING WORK????
Thar's Ubengis in the PRAYER supply!
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:52:34 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:51:13 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:50:09 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Wouldn't that mean that NONE of their prayers ever reach Mecca?
That would seem logical - maybe there's something that annuls the annulment? :lulz:
PRAYERS HOW DO THEY FUCKING WORK????
WITH DONKEYS FEMALES AND DOGS IN TEH BACK!
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:57:06 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:52:34 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:51:13 AM
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:50:09 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Wouldn't that mean that NONE of their prayers ever reach Mecca?
That would seem logical - maybe there's something that annuls the annulment? :lulz:
PRAYERS HOW DO THEY FUCKING WORK????
WITH DONKEYS FEMALES AND DOGS IN TEH BACK!
SOUNDS LIKE SALAZOR TRADITIONAL PARTY!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:50:09 AM
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Wouldn't that mean that NONE of their prayers ever reach Mecca?
Nah, they spread out like a flashlight beam, so that further than a stone's throw and only a tiny fraction is blocked so enough gets through for the important part to be transmitted.
One potential problem I see is that I am fairly sure Muslims line up to pray, and you'd have to be very careful where women are placed in those lines, since they block prayers that would be passing through them. Must be a real headache at women's schools around prayer time.
Quote from: Canis latrans securis on April 21, 2011, 05:59:11 AM
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Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
Wouldn't that mean that NONE of their prayers ever reach Mecca?
That would seem logical - maybe there's something that annuls the annulment? :lulz:
PRAYERS HOW DO THEY FUCKING WORK????
WITH DONKEYS FEMALES AND DOGS IN TEH BACK!
SOUNDS LIKE SALAZOR TRADITIONAL PARTY!!!!!!!!!
PORTUGESE PRAYERS COULD NEVER MAKE IT TOO MANY DONKEYS IN THE WAY!
In Portugal, the Donkeys pray too.
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
The only thing worse than the fact that the hadiths are completely bogus and idiotic is the fact that they essentially promote being nothing more than a mindless demi-monkey (hey, you don't have to think 'cause I'll think for you!). And this is coming from a Muslim, LOL.
Quote from: Aloe on April 21, 2011, 05:48:40 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on April 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: Slyph on April 20, 2011, 11:23:55 PM
There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
I wonder if you put a person under a really big metal bucket if their prayers would still reach mecca.
Or if you had a few other people praying on an interfering frequency.
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There's a lot of Hadith where Muhammad (pbuh) says you should only have dogs for hunting and guarding your flock. He straight up says "kill every all-black dog" as well. Hated dogs.
There's a Hadith that says if you're praying and a Dog gets between you and Mecca and it's closer to you than a stone's throw, it cancels out the prayer.
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away, for I disliked to face him.""
I love the idea of your prayers being like a radio signal thats actually physically traveling to Mecca.
I love the idea that a dog, monkey, or woman walking in front of a praying person will jam the communication.
I wonder if you put a person under a really big metal bucket if their prayers would still reach mecca.
Or if you had a few other people praying on an interfering frequency.
You could create a binaural tone, and subliminally send post hypnotic trigger words straight into Gods unconscious mind. May as well put all that MKULTRA mind reaming Psytech stuff to good use.
...as for praying during school time and separating the boys from girls so that the girls don't "block" prayers, I'm pretty sure they're separated already so that this is not a problem. It is, to be sure, just a bullshit reason to keep men and women eternally separated publicly.
Also, according to my husband, women aren't always allowed in the mosques anyway. Especially in Afghanistan. Only men. So there you go.
Quote from: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 01:48:15 PM
...as for praying during school time and separating the boys from girls so that the girls don't "block" prayers, I'm pretty sure they're separated already so that this is not a problem. It is, to be sure, just a bullshit reason to keep men and women eternally separated publicly.
Also, according to my husband, women aren't always allowed in the mosques anyway. Especially in Afghanistan. Only men. So there you go.
WHAAAAAAA???
Maybe the Afghani culture is like that, BUUUUUUUT I know in other Muslim countries women are allowed in mosques. But they are placed in the back of the rooms or in separate rooms for prayers.
Yeah, I was shocked too. I recently went to an AMERICAN Afghan mosque here in San Diego--it's brand new. And women were in this tiny, dank, stinky little fuckin' room while the men were in this beautifully appointed, pristine and wonderfully architecturally pleasing room. And when I complained about this (and yes, I complained--albeit in English--while INSIDE the mosque) to my husband later on, he "explained" it by saying that women entering and worshipping in mosques was a "relatively new" phenomenon.
But yes, most orthodoxy dictates MEN visit mosques. Women, they stay at home. Pray in the home with each other or go to parks and shit instead (this is what my mother-in-law did in Pakistan when she and her family were there waiting for my husband to get their visas to move here).
Barefoot, pregnant, and without even a fucking pet for company.
Quote from: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 01:48:15 PM
...as for praying during school time and separating the boys from girls so that the girls don't "block" prayers, I'm pretty sure they're separated already so that this is not a problem. It is, to be sure, just a bullshit reason to keep men and women eternally separated publicly.
Also, according to my husband, women aren't always allowed in the mosques anyway. Especially in Afghanistan. Only men. So there you go.
I know they are separated. My point was that it has to be difficult to space the girls out properly so that their prayers aren't blocked.
I'm pretty sure you don't have to be in the mosque to pray, what with the 5 prayers a day thing.
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Quote from: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 01:48:15 PM
...as for praying during school time and separating the boys from girls so that the girls don't "block" prayers, I'm pretty sure they're separated already so that this is not a problem. It is, to be sure, just a bullshit reason to keep men and women eternally separated publicly.
Also, according to my husband, women aren't always allowed in the mosques anyway. Especially in Afghanistan. Only men. So there you go.
I know they are separated. My point was that it has to be difficult to space the girls out properly so that their prayers aren't blocked.
I'm pretty sure you don't have to be in the mosque to pray, what with the 5 prayers a day thing.
All you do is make sure the girls are sitting to the side of the boys and the rooms are set up so that you can face east/Mecca from the get-go. Not hard at all. They don't INTEGRATE. :lol:
And the "truly holy" are supposed to go 5 times a day. Islamist governments make uh considerations for prayer. 5 times daily. Yup.
One might ask how productive said countries with Sharia-law based governments are...but perhaps that's besides the point itt.
Also, most of the schools are all-boy or all-girl.
I'm thinking they DON'T take it to the ridiculous (because humans are inherently lazy, to my mind) and make sure all girls are out of the way of Mecca countrywide.
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Also, most of the schools are all-boy or all-girl.
I'm thinking they DON'T take it to the ridiculous (because humans are inherently lazy, to my mind) and make sure all girls are out of the way of Mecca countrywide.
I wasn't thinking about the girls blocking the boy's prayers. I was thinking about the girls blocking the girls prayers.
They don't have to be out of the way countrywide thoguh, if they are further than a stone's throw away, no worries.
:lol: Point.
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Quote from: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 06:51:12 PM
Also, most of the schools are all-boy or all-girl.
I'm thinking they DON'T take it to the ridiculous (because humans are inherently lazy, to my mind) and make sure all girls are out of the way of Mecca countrywide.
I wasn't thinking about the girls blocking the boy's prayers. I was thinking about the girls blocking the girls prayers.
They don't have to be out of the way countrywide thoguh, if they are further than a stone's throw away, no worries.
I'm thinking that girl's prayers aren't considered as anything important to begin with....
...that's what made it funny, to me. This is obviously an issue for MEN. :lulz: You know the "true believers."
Quote from: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
...that's what made it funny, to me. This is obviously an issue for MEN. :lulz: You know the "true believers."
:lulz:
Why would a woman want to pray, anyway? Women don't even HAVE souls.
They should put a bigass antenna on Mecca. Or just run cable. :lol:
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They should put a bigass antenna on Mecca. Or just run cable. :lol:
I wonder if you put a frozen burrito in the center of Mecca if the prayers would cook it like a microwave.
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They should put a bigass antenna on Mecca. Or just run cable. :lol:
I wonder if you put a frozen burrito in the center of Mecca if the prayers would cook it like a microwave.
I wonder if anybody's ever picked up the prayers in their tooth fillings.
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Why would a woman want to pray, anyway? Women don't even HAVE souls.
:lol:
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Quote from: Jenne on April 21, 2011, 06:51:12 PM
Also, most of the schools are all-boy or all-girl.
I'm thinking they DON'T take it to the ridiculous (because humans are inherently lazy, to my mind) and make sure all girls are out of the way of Mecca countrywide.
I wasn't thinking about the girls blocking the boy's prayers. I was thinking about the girls blocking the girls prayers.
They don't have to be out of the way countrywide thoguh, if they are further than a stone's throw away, no worries.
The real answer is, in fact, sadly like Zappathrusters, nobody cares if the girls prayers reach Mecca or not, cause they're women.