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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: AFK on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM

Title: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: AFK on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 

Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on May 25, 2011, 06:51:46 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Kai on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.

Us oldsters grew up with it being considered a "planet".
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Don Coyote on May 26, 2011, 01:24:28 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.

Us oldsters grew up with it being considered a "planet".

But wait...I grew up with it being a planet...I'm not old....wtf
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: leln on May 26, 2011, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.

Us oldsters grew up with it being considered a "planet".

Yeah, My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nachos (Naan, whatever) just isn't the same, even if it still plays to gender stereotypes. If Nine Pizzas aren't involved, why are you even trying to interest the brains of elementary-school students? Pepperoni or GTFO.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 26, 2011, 01:34:50 AM
Quote from: leln on May 26, 2011, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.

Us oldsters grew up with it being considered a "planet".

Yeah, My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nachos (Naan, whatever) just isn't the same, even if it still plays to gender stereotypes. If Nine Pizzas aren't involved, why are you even trying to interest the brains of elementary-school students? Pepperoni or GTFO.

was that supposed to make sense?
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Kai on May 26, 2011, 01:43:59 AM
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 26, 2011, 01:34:50 AM
Quote from: leln on May 26, 2011, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.

Us oldsters grew up with it being considered a "planet".

Yeah, My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nachos (Naan, whatever) just isn't the same, even if it still plays to gender stereotypes. If Nine Pizzas aren't involved, why are you even trying to interest the brains of elementary-school students? Pepperoni or GTFO.

was that supposed to make sense?

They're mnemonic devices, Fred.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: leln on May 26, 2011, 01:45:10 AM
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 26, 2011, 01:34:50 AM
Quote from: leln on May 26, 2011, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.

Us oldsters grew up with it being considered a "planet".

Yeah, My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nachos (Naan, whatever) just isn't the same, even if it still plays to gender stereotypes. If Nine Pizzas aren't involved, why are you even trying to interest the brains of elementary-school students? Pepperoni or GTFO.

was that supposed to make sense?

A mnemonic for remembering the first letters of the nine planets was "My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas" when I was in grade school. The comment about pepperoni was an attempt at humor that obviously failed, so don't worry if it doesn't make sense to you.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 26, 2011, 01:46:34 AM
 :lulz: i thought you had clicked on the wrong thread or something cause i read the gender stereotypes bit and thought you mean tto post in that other thread 
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: leln on May 26, 2011, 01:52:45 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 01:43:59 AM
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 26, 2011, 01:34:50 AM
Quote from: leln on May 26, 2011, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: Nigel on May 26, 2011, 01:19:05 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
So the boy has moved up in daycare from the infant room to the older infant room.  For some reason (I'm calling stupidity) the older infant room has a smaller refrigerator which means the boy needs to have his own lunch box with ice packs.  So, of course, I'm not going to send the boy with any ole boring lunch box.  I mean, what's the point, right?

So I found him this lunch box on Amazon that has the 9 planets.  Yeah, that's right, NINE, planets. 

That is, it has the 8 "really real planets" and then pluto off in a corner crying.

(http://feeds2.yourstorewizards.com/2168/images/200x200/crocodile-creek-solar-system-lunchbox.jpg)

Because Neil deGrasse Tyson obviously hates small planets AND children. 

Who's the bestest Daddy in the world? 



I know it's supposed to be satire, but seriously, enough about fucking Pluto. It's a goddamn ice rock. You can barely see it from a 6 inch reflector, and only as a faint speck of light at that.

Us oldsters grew up with it being considered a "planet".

Yeah, My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nachos (Naan, whatever) just isn't the same, even if it still plays to gender stereotypes. If Nine Pizzas aren't involved, why are you even trying to interest the brains of elementary-school students? Pepperoni or GTFO.

was that supposed to make sense?

They're mnemonic devices, Fred.

Whoops, Kai got there first, sorry.
Quote from: The Fred ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 26, 2011, 01:46:34 AM
:lulz: i thought you had clicked on the wrong thread or something cause i read the gender stereotypes bit and thought you mean tto post in that other thread 


Nope, I probably just haven't seen the thread you're thinking of yet. I'll look for it tomorrow, I need to sleep now.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Lies on May 26, 2011, 02:32:09 AM
Seriously, fuck pluto, nachos are the fucking bomb
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 26, 2011, 02:34:47 AM
I want some decent nachos. The last nachos I had were crap.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Telarus on May 26, 2011, 03:08:44 AM
I personally consider the "Pluto shift" to mean that we have MORE planets in our solar system, not less.

Seriously, "dwarf planet" still has "planet" in it. It's not like they're calling Pluto, Ceres, etc, "rocks". I totally blame the mnemonic for the stupidly which surrounds this (it's easier to drop Pluto than come up with an accurate mnemonic).
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Phox on May 26, 2011, 03:22:24 AM
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/SR/PDF/09600SR0046lv.pdf

*coughisaplanetinIllinoiscough*  :ninja:
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Don Coyote on May 26, 2011, 03:24:59 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 03:22:24 AM
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/SR/PDF/09600SR0046lv.pdf

*coughisaplanetinIllinoiscough*  :ninja:
:lulz:

Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Phox on May 26, 2011, 03:27:21 AM
Poorly worded non-binding state Senate resolution > scientific consensus. Fact.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Kai on May 26, 2011, 04:30:26 AM
Quote from: Telarus on May 26, 2011, 03:08:44 AM
I personally consider the "Pluto shift" to mean that we have MORE planets in our solar system, not less.

Seriously, "dwarf planet" still has "planet" in it. It's not like they're calling Pluto, Ceres, etc, "rocks". I totally blame the mnemonic for the stupidly which surrounds this (it's easier to drop Pluto than come up with an accurate mnemonic).

I think Neil Degrasse Tyson pointed out that the whole problem was the rote memorization of planets rather than the understanding of the different types of objects in the solar system, of which the terrestrial and jovian planets are just two types of many. It's the same way whereever you look in education, most of all in the sciences. The very obvious reason people identify so much with Pluto is twofold A) it's much smaller than the other classic planets and B) when they see "Pluto" they think Mickey's dog. They're very well not thinking of a fucking god of the underworld. They don't actually know a damn thing about it, that it's transneptunian, that it mostly rock and ice, that it's just one of many kuiper belt objects, etc etc. All they know is "pluto is the 9th planet". Which is perhaps one of the most useless factoids I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Phox on May 26, 2011, 04:41:47 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 04:30:26 AM
Quote from: Telarus on May 26, 2011, 03:08:44 AM
I personally consider the "Pluto shift" to mean that we have MORE planets in our solar system, not less.

Seriously, "dwarf planet" still has "planet" in it. It's not like they're calling Pluto, Ceres, etc, "rocks". I totally blame the mnemonic for the stupidly which surrounds this (it's easier to drop Pluto than come up with an accurate mnemonic).

I think Neil Degrasse Tyson pointed out that the whole problem was the rote memorization of planets rather than the understanding of the different types of objects in the solar system, of which the terrestrial and jovian planets are just two types of many. It's the same way whereever you look in education, most of all in the sciences. The very obvious reason people identify so much with Pluto is twofold A) it's much smaller than the other classic planets and B) when they see "Pluto" they think Mickey's dog. They're very well not thinking of a fucking god of the underworld. They don't actually know a damn thing about it, that it's transneptunian, that it mostly rock and ice, that it's just one of many kuiper belt objects, etc etc. All they know is "pluto is the 9th planet". Which is perhaps one of the most useless factoids I have ever heard.

Quote from: Doktor Phox on May 26, 2011, 03:27:21 AM
Poorly worded non-binding state Senate resolution > scientific consensus. Fact.
:argh!:
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 26, 2011, 04:55:05 AM
Pluto's a planet.

Rationale:
It's spherical and orbits the sun.

Should we demote the terrestrial planets because they're too small? Hell, Pluto has 2 Moons, Mercury doesn't. Should we count out Neptune and Uranus because they're "Ice Giants"? It's silly. If it's spherical and orbits a star it's a planet. Maybe a planet should be something very large and spherical that has its own system of satellites, thus leaving out Mercury and Venus. Maybe Mars doesn't count because its moons look funny.

Scientists shouldn't be shy about having more. So by the end of the century we end up finding that Sol has 60 some odd planets by my definition. What, is DeGrasse reluctant to count that high? I like the dude, but come on.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 26, 2011, 05:06:09 AM
Also, as a side note, when I hear Pluto, I think of it in the following order:

The God (Latin spag, after all)
The Planet












Oh, wait, yeah there was a cartoon dog named after one of those.....
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 05:07:41 AM
Question: Why does Neil get so much crap over the dwarf planet thing?  Wasn't that some major vote?
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Kai on May 26, 2011, 05:08:30 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on May 26, 2011, 04:55:05 AM
Pluto's a planet.

Rationale:
It's spherical and orbits the sun.

Should we demote the terrestrial planets because they're too small? Hell, Pluto has 2 Moons, Mercury doesn't. Should we count out Neptune and Uranus because they're "Ice Giants"? It's silly. If it's spherical and orbits a star it's a planet. Maybe a planet should be something very large and spherical that has its own system of satellites, thus leaving out Mercury and Venus. Maybe Mars doesn't count because its moons look funny.

Scientists shouldn't be shy about having more. So by the end of the century we end up finding that Sol has 60 some odd planets by my definition. What, is DeGrasse reluctant to count that high? I like the dude, but come on.

The problem is, before the consensus IAU definitions there were only colloquial, folk ideas of planets. There were these whole class of bodies orbiting stars for which we had no definitions because we didn't think we needed them. Until, of course, we started discovering extrasolar planetary systems, and all these kuiper belt objects.

So, the definitions are now as follows:

1) Those objects large enough to have homeostatic equilibrium on surface (having a curved, smoothed surface by gravity and generally spheroid) and generally cleared their solar orbit of other bodies are termed planets. Those planets which are largely composed of gasses are considered in the subcategory "gas giant" or "jovian". Those planets largely composed of solids are "rocky planets" or "terrestrial".

2) Those objects large enough to have homeostatic equilibrium but share orbit with similar sized objects are termed dwarf planets.

3) Those objects not of great enough mass to achieve homeostatic equilibrium are variously planetoids, asteroids, comets, etc, depending on their position and composition.


It's not about fucking numbers, or easiness of education, it's about fucking SCIENCE! Instead of rote memorizing the names, maybe students should actually learn about them. It's like Richard Feynman's story about a kid bothering him because he didn't know the name of a bird they saw, and that his dad must not teach him anything. The truth is, his dad said, that is so and so in this language, and this in this language and this in this language, and once you've gone and learned all that, you know absofuckinglutely nothing about the bird.

So lets watch the bird.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Kai on May 26, 2011, 05:09:08 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 26, 2011, 05:07:41 AM
Question: Why does Neil get so much crap over the dwarf planet thing?  Wasn't that some major vote?

He gets crap because he thinks it was stupid to make a deal over and he wrote a book about it.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Kai on May 26, 2011, 05:11:57 AM
In other words, I wish we went with greek instead of roman names for the solar system bodies, because nobody would have given a shit about a dwarf planet named Hades.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Phox on May 26, 2011, 05:22:36 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 05:11:57 AM
In other words, I wish we went with greek instead of roman names for the solar system bodies, because nobody would have given a shit about a dwarf planet named Hades.

Unless Walt Disney had decided to name his new cartoon dog after the recently discovered planet Hades.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 26, 2011, 05:27:07 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 05:11:57 AM
In other words, I wish we went with greek instead of roman names for the solar system bodies, because nobody would have given a shit about a dwarf planet named Hades.

I would. Actually that would be even cooler. Hades sounds bad-ass.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on May 26, 2011, 05:37:11 AM
Quote from: ϗ, M.S. on May 26, 2011, 05:08:30 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on May 26, 2011, 04:55:05 AM
Pluto's a planet.

Rationale:
It's spherical and orbits the sun.

Should we demote the terrestrial planets because they're too small? Hell, Pluto has 2 Moons, Mercury doesn't. Should we count out Neptune and Uranus because they're "Ice Giants"? It's silly. If it's spherical and orbits a star it's a planet. Maybe a planet should be something very large and spherical that has its own system of satellites, thus leaving out Mercury and Venus. Maybe Mars doesn't count because its moons look funny.

Scientists shouldn't be shy about having more. So by the end of the century we end up finding that Sol has 60 some odd planets by my definition. What, is DeGrasse reluctant to count that high? I like the dude, but come on.

The problem is, before the consensus IAU definitions there were only colloquial, folk ideas of planets. There were these whole class of bodies orbiting stars for which we had no definitions because we didn't think we needed them. Until, of course, we started discovering extrasolar planetary systems, and all these kuiper belt objects.

So, the definitions are now as follows:

1) Those objects large enough to have homeostatic equilibrium on surface (having a curved, smoothed surface by gravity and generally spheroid) and generally cleared their solar orbit of other bodies are termed planets. Those planets which are largely composed of gasses are considered in the subcategory "gas giant" or "jovian". Those planets largely composed of solids are "rocky planets" or "terrestrial".

2) Those objects large enough to have homeostatic equilibrium but share orbit with similar sized objects are termed dwarf planets.

3) Those objects not of great enough mass to achieve homeostatic equilibrium are variously planetoids, asteroids, comets, etc, depending on their position and composition.


It's not about fucking numbers, or easiness of education, it's about fucking SCIENCE! Instead of rote memorizing the names, maybe students should actually learn about them. It's like Richard Feynman's story about a kid bothering him because he didn't know the name of a bird they saw, and that his dad must not teach him anything. The truth is, his dad said, that is so and so in this language, and this in this language and this in this language, and once you've gone and learned all that, you know absofuckinglutely nothing about the bird.

So lets watch the bird.

In response to this, I know about the extra qualifier of clearing its orbit. I don't see that as necessary. Spherical and orbits a star is sufficient. That's pretty scientific, I think.

Why not categorize gas giants as something else? Why not call them substars or something? They end up having their own systems themselves. My point is throwing in the clearing of orbit is just as arbitrary as any other definition. A solid sphere shape seems good enough to me. And jumping to it, yes, I'm cool with considering the Earth-Moon system a binary planet. Large enough to be round, small enough to not initiate nuclear fusion. I'd rather think of irregular asteroids as dwarf planets. If I recall, they used to be called planetesimals, though I don't know if that is still in use.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Payne on May 26, 2011, 06:13:29 AM
I'm going to ask NdGT what he thinks of RWHNs kid's lunchbox then. That shit if off the hook.

And I also want to know his opinion on why the fridge in the older infants room is smaller, knowing that there'll be some scientific explanation that I would only believe if I heard it in his voice.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: AFK on May 26, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
I just thought it was a cool lunchbox. 

And I like Neil deGrasse Tyson.  I think he's done a great job of getting a little more attention to astrophysics if for no other reason than he actually has a personality and can describe things in a way that doesn't put most laypeople to sleep.  I just like giving him shit because it's fun. 

Now, as someone who grew up with the Nine Planets, Pluto being one of them....I actually think whatever attachment people have had to Pluto goes beyond the fact that it shares a name with a Disney dog.  I really don't think that is it.  I mean, I don't recall when we learned the planets a bunch of other kids going "Cool, Pluto, where's Goofy?"

No, I think it was more to do with the fact that Pluto was so fucking different.  And if you were a kid that felt different from the rest of the kids in school, you could relate to Pluto.  Here is little Pluto, way out there, doing it's own thing.  It's orbit was way fucking different than the rest of the planets, and it was so far away, we really didn't know what it really looked like.  Just some grainy, really pixellated snapshots from robotic spacecraft. 

And at the end of the day, I think that is just fine.  Because you know what?  It undoubtedly got kids interested in science and space.  Who cares if, at the time, it wasn't a 100% accurate of the Real Solar System.  We learn more about the space around us all the time.  I mean, long, long, long ago, civilizations thought the stars in the skies were basically little chandeliers hanging from the ceiling of Earth. 

So I don't really have any big problem with Pluto being demoted.  I do have a fondness for the little planet because I was one of those kids who got fascinated and interested in space because of weird little Pluto. 
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: AFK on May 26, 2011, 01:26:47 PM
Quote from: Payne on May 26, 2011, 06:13:29 AM
I'm going to ask NdGT what he thinks of RWHNs kid's lunchbox then. That shit if off the hook.

And I also want to know his opinion on why the fridge in the older infants room is smaller, knowing that there'll be some scientific explanation that I would only believe if I heard it in his voice.

Seriously, I'd like to know too.  Why do the bigger kids get a smaller fridge?  What kind of assnuttery is that? 
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Luna on May 26, 2011, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 26, 2011, 01:26:47 PM
Quote from: Payne on May 26, 2011, 06:13:29 AM
I'm going to ask NdGT what he thinks of RWHNs kid's lunchbox then. That shit if off the hook.

And I also want to know his opinion on why the fridge in the older infants room is smaller, knowing that there'll be some scientific explanation that I would only believe if I heard it in his voice.

Seriously, I'd like to know too.  Why do the bigger kids get a smaller fridge?  What kind of assnuttery is that? 

Since when do kids get a fridge at all?
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: AFK on May 26, 2011, 01:37:03 PM
It's pretty standard at daycares, at least round here, especially when you have infants who have formula that needs to be kept cool.  Even the pre-school my daughter went to had a big, full size fridge for the kids to keep their lunch boxes in. 
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Luna on May 26, 2011, 01:49:11 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 26, 2011, 01:37:03 PM
It's pretty standard at daycares, at least round here, especially when you have infants who have formula that needs to be kept cool.  Even the pre-school my daughter went to had a big, full size fridge for the kids to keep their lunch boxes in. 

There's your answer, I suppose...  The little 'uns need the bigger fridge because they've got bottles of formula that has to be kept cool, older kids are more likely to have sandwiches and such that don't.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Jenne on May 28, 2011, 07:40:00 PM
My oldest boy would have LOVED a planet box like your son's, RWHN!  Geekdads rule!
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: maphdet on May 28, 2011, 11:58:56 PM
I love the planet lunch box.
And as the fridges go---in all the pre-schools we've had the kids in, there has never been a fridge. It was/is bring a lunch that does not require refridgeration or to be heated. Makes for making lunches real fun. HA!


Oh and-the Geekiest Dad of them all is R.W.H.N.
8)

btw-speaking of lunch boxes-I just purchased a Hello Kitty box and bookbag for my three year old girl. I know-Hello Kitty-it could be worse though, maybe.
:oops:


Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Fredfredly ⊂(◉‿◉)つ on May 29, 2011, 12:13:51 AM
what is wrong with hello kitty
i would use a hello kitty lunch box
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 29, 2011, 12:26:10 AM
EFO specifically requested a Hello Kitty keychain.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: geekdad on May 30, 2011, 10:19:24 AM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on May 25, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?

Uh... Hi! [points to name]

Awesome lunch pack.

I've been Netflixing Voltron, The Littles, and Fraggle Rock as fast as my year and half old can watch them. Lately I've been reading Seuss, Sylvester and the Magic Pebble, Where the Wild Things Are, and a little of Edward Gorey.

You might really like this site:

http://www.teachingchildrenphilosophy.org/wiki/Parents
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: AFK on June 06, 2011, 03:53:38 PM
Stupid Amazon.

My package with the lunchbox seems to have slipped into some netherworld or alternate dimension.  It apparently happened somewhere in Kentucky.  Which makes sense.  I always thought Kentucky was a weird state.  Untrustworthy, kinda shifty. 

Or maybe it was Tyson.  He and his band of Miscreant Asstrophysicists decided to intercept my son's lunchbox.  He seems like the type that would steal candy from a baby.  He's got that look in his eye. 
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Phox on June 06, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 06, 2011, 03:53:38 PM
My package with the lunchbox seems to have slipped into some netherworld or alternate dimension.  It apparently happened somewhere in Kentucky.  Which makes sense.  I always thought Kentucky was a weird state.  Untrustworthy, kinda shifty. 
Kentucky devours souls. I should know. There are only three states in the continental U.S. outside of Illinois that aren't easy to get to from here by taking a route that goes through Kentucky.  It's a horrible, horrible place.
Title: Re: Who is the Geekiest Dad of them all?
Post by: Dysfunctional Cunt on June 06, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on June 06, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: R.W.H.N. on June 06, 2011, 03:53:38 PM
My package with the lunchbox seems to have slipped into some netherworld or alternate dimension.  It apparently happened somewhere in Kentucky.  Which makes sense.  I always thought Kentucky was a weird state.  Untrustworthy, kinda shifty. 
Kentucky devours souls. I should know. There are only three states in the continental U.S. outside of Illinois that aren't easy to get to from here by taking a route that goes through Kentucky.  It's a horrible, horrible place.

Kentucky is the trailer park-wrong side of the tracks-ghetto of the United States.