Also, Schpongle and DMT.
I mean, I still know where he is physically, and we're still friends and all, but, well, you know what I mean.
He told me he knew he was going to walk on water some day. :magick:
No, you made your friend lose himself to Teh Sekgrit, by concentrating on it really, really hard.
Quote from: Cain on July 23, 2011, 07:09:18 PM
No, you made your friend lose himself to Teh Sekgrit, by concentrating on it really, really hard.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on July 23, 2011, 07:09:18 PM
No, you made your friend lose himself to Teh Sekgrit, by concentrating on it really, really hard.
Unfortunately, I failed to predict this now obvious outcome.
He's kind of always been "That Guy".
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/timericuniverse.gif)
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 23, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
Also, Schpongle and DMT.
I mean, I still know where he is physically, and we're still friends and all, but, well, you know what I mean.
He told me he knew he was going to walk on water some day. :magick:
You're gonna have to put him down, like a dog.
Don't worry, it isn't murder. He's already gone.
Don't they have vaccines for this sort of thing yet?
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 23, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
Don't they have vaccines for this sort of thing yet?
Yes, however, most flinch at the method with which it must be administered.
People hesitate to kick their friends in the taint that hard, for some reason.
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 23, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
Don't they have vaccines for this sort of thing yet?
I'mma buy him a copy of 'Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America' (http://oneminutebookreviews.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/%E2%80%98smile-or-die%E2%80%99-%E2%80%93-barbara-ehrenreich%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98bright-sided-how-the-relentless-promotion-of-positive-thinking-has-undermined-america%E2%80%99/). See if that helps.
QuoteEhrenreich found when she was diagnosed with breast cancer that a cult of optimism pervaded articles and books about the disease that made her feel isolated instead of supported. "No one among the bloggers and book writers seemed to share my sense of outrage over the disease and the available treatments," she writes in a chapter ironically called "Smile or Die: The Bright Side of Cancer." "What causes it and why is it so common, especially in industrialized societies? Why don't we have treatments that distinguish between different forms of breast cancer or between cancer cells and normal dividing cells?"
Instead of finding answers, Ehrenreich kept coming across articles by women who claimed that they owed their survival to a "positive attitude" – even though the death rate from breast cancer has changed little since the 1930s and there is no consistent evidence that staying upbeat extends the life of those who have the disease, though it may have many other benefits. She also found that "positive thinking" can exact a terrible price in self-blame if a cancer defies treatment. As the oncology nurse Cynthia Rittenberg has written, the pressure to think positively is "an additional burden to an already devastated patient."
What's wrong with Shpongle???
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 23, 2011, 10:49:45 PM
What's wrong with Shpongle???
He's always fucking with Mr Crabs.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2011, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 23, 2011, 10:49:45 PM
What's wrong with Shpongle???
He's always fucking with Mr Crabs.
Do you mean Mr. Krabbs?
(http://web.me.com/jc.turner/www.hollyturner.co.uk/Mr_Krabs_files/Mr%20krabs%20trip%20%28Dying%20for%20pie%29.jpg)
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 24, 2011, 12:06:19 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2011, 10:50:56 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 23, 2011, 10:49:45 PM
What's wrong with Shpongle???
He's always fucking with Mr Crabs.
Do you mean Mr. Krabbs?
(http://web.me.com/jc.turner/www.hollyturner.co.uk/Mr_Krabs_files/Mr%20krabs%20trip%20%28Dying%20for%20pie%29.jpg)
No.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2011, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 23, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
Also, Schpongle and DMT.
I mean, I still know where he is physically, and we're still friends and all, but, well, you know what I mean.
He told me he knew he was going to walk on water some day. :magick:
You're gonna have to put him down, like a dog.
Don't worry, it isn't murder. He's already gone.
Can't.
Need him as a reference on application forms.
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 24, 2011, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2011, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 23, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
Also, Schpongle and DMT.
I mean, I still know where he is physically, and we're still friends and all, but, well, you know what I mean.
He told me he knew he was going to walk on water some day. :magick:
You're gonna have to put him down, like a dog.
Don't worry, it isn't murder. He's already gone.
Can't.
Need him as a reference on application forms.
Um.
Think about that for a moment.
Quote from: Triple Zero on July 23, 2011, 10:49:45 PM
What's wrong with Shpongle???
Nothing, I guess. As with DMT. I went to visit him, and it was all about The Secret, Shpongle and DMT.
It just sounds like some kind of Trifecta, doesn't it?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 24, 2011, 12:24:08 AM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 24, 2011, 12:23:23 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 23, 2011, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 23, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
Also, Schpongle and DMT.
I mean, I still know where he is physically, and we're still friends and all, but, well, you know what I mean.
He told me he knew he was going to walk on water some day. :magick:
You're gonna have to put him down, like a dog.
Don't worry, it isn't murder. He's already gone.
Can't.
Need him as a reference on application forms.
Um.
Think about that for a moment.
I have.
He's one of the few friends that I've had for nearly 20 years that I still talk to other than the occasional facebook comment. My only other friend that fits that description is my new roommate, and I couldn't really use him as a reference for the house we are getting together.
For jobs, I use mostly professors from school rather than friends.
He's actually fairly high functioning, as things go. He has a business (that I helped him start), and makes decent money off of hippies at music festivals.
Basically, he's too useful to kill, even though most deals with him eventually start to turn a little Faustian after a while. He often brags about his ability to whitewash people (in the Tom Sawyer sense)
Tell him that there are competing tribes of DMT machine-elves. Some want to get an idea so totally stuck in your head that they can feed off of the resulting stagnation (like beetles in the leaf-litter).
There are others who want you to be constantly mindful of the moment, ready to draw insight and creativity straight from slamming two previously unrelated phenomena together and allowing the association clouds around them to blend together (called 'semantic priming', it's one of our recognized pattern recognition tools). Obviously they desire this because it gives them sustenance from the generation of new meaning.
Then just point-blank straight-man him with "Which tribe do you think the Secret's followers are feeding?"
[edit to fix up the 'story']
Do you have a link that would explain more about sub-Priming.
Google just gives me links about the financial crisis.
Quote from: Telarus on July 24, 2011, 02:19:05 AM
Tell him that there are competing tribes of DMT machine-elves. Some want to get an idea so totally stuck in your head that they can feed off of the resulting stagnation (like beetles in the leaf-litter).
There are others who want you to be constantly mindful of the moment, ready to draw insight and creativity straight from slamming to previously unrelated things together and not having reflexes which immediately reject the result (called 'sub-Priming', it's one of our recognized pattern recognition tools). Obviously they desire this because it gives them sustenance.
Then just point-blank straight-man him with "Which tribe do you think the Secret's followers are feeding?"
Are you giving this as actual advice? Is there anyone over the age of reason who would actually believe this?
:lulz:
Uh, Freeky, this is advice for someone who is taking The Secret seriously.
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 24, 2011, 03:06:21 AM
Quote from: Telarus on July 24, 2011, 02:19:05 AM
Tell him that there are competing tribes of DMT machine-elves. Some want to get an idea so totally stuck in your head that they can feed off of the resulting stagnation (like beetles in the leaf-litter).
There are others who want you to be constantly mindful of the moment, ready to draw insight and creativity straight from slamming to previously unrelated things together and not having reflexes which immediately reject the result (called 'sub-Priming', it's one of our recognized pattern recognition tools). Obviously they desire this because it gives them sustenance.
Then just point-blank straight-man him with "Which tribe do you think the Secret's followers are feeding?"
Are you giving this as actual advice? Is there anyone over the age of reason who would actually believe this?
:lulz:
If the right person told him, yeah. I don't think I have the psychonautical cred to pull it off, though.
He's taken way more Enlightenment Pills
tm than I have.
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 24, 2011, 03:06:21 AM
Are you giving this as actual advice? Is there anyone over the age of reason who would actually believe this?
:lulz:
Quote from: Cain on July 24, 2011, 03:34:38 AM
Uh, Freeky, this is advice for someone who is taking The Secret seriously.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :fnord: :evil:
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 24, 2011, 02:38:16 AM
Do you have a link that would explain more about sub-Priming.
Google just gives me links about the financial crisis.
Hahaha, I got the term wrong, probably because that little DMT elves narrative just came out as I was thinking of the concept, but couldn't remember the actual name so I started riffing off of that.
The actual term is Semantic Priming (I recognize the technique from some NLP I've studied, but I've recently run across the hard references):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_%28psychology%29
Replicable Unconscious Semantic Priming (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDUQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fdownload%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.77.5785%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3Dpdf&rct=j&q=semantic%20priming&ei=jbErToeZFYbkiAKf9fmvAg&usg=AFQjCNE0j8rnSB8SRqyr0o6J4JaTNHQy0w&cad=rja)
http://www.interaction-design.org/encyclopedia/priming.html
A discourse on semantic priming (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0010028582900202)
Semantic priming effects with and without perceptual awareness (http://www.uv.es/revispsi/articulos2.06/5ORTELLS.pdf)
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 23, 2011, 10:42:30 PM
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 23, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
Don't they have vaccines for this sort of thing yet?
I'mma buy him a copy of 'Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America' (http://oneminutebookreviews.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/%E2%80%98smile-or-die%E2%80%99-%E2%80%93-barbara-ehrenreich%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98bright-sided-how-the-relentless-promotion-of-positive-thinking-has-undermined-america%E2%80%99/). See if that helps.
QuoteEhrenreich found when she was diagnosed with breast cancer that a cult of optimism pervaded articles and books about the disease that made her feel isolated instead of supported. "No one among the bloggers and book writers seemed to share my sense of outrage over the disease and the available treatments," she writes in a chapter ironically called "Smile or Die: The Bright Side of Cancer." "What causes it and why is it so common, especially in industrialized societies? Why don't we have treatments that distinguish between different forms of breast cancer or between cancer cells and normal dividing cells?"
Instead of finding answers, Ehrenreich kept coming across articles by women who claimed that they owed their survival to a "positive attitude" – even though the death rate from breast cancer has changed little since the 1930s and there is no consistent evidence that staying upbeat extends the life of those who have the disease, though it may have many other benefits. She also found that "positive thinking" can exact a terrible price in self-blame if a cancer defies treatment. As the oncology nurse Cynthia Rittenberg has written, the pressure to think positively is "an additional burden to an already devastated patient."
It's kind of like the mandatory cheers that WalMart employees have to do. They want you smiling while that big scabby red white & blue dick is spooging cancer into yoor colon.
Quote from: Telarus on July 24, 2011, 06:57:08 AM
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 24, 2011, 03:06:21 AM
Are you giving this as actual advice? Is there anyone over the age of reason who would actually believe this?
:lulz:
Quote from: Cain on July 24, 2011, 03:34:38 AM
Uh, Freeky, this is advice for someone who is taking The Secret seriously.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :fnord: :evil:
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 24, 2011, 02:38:16 AM
Do you have a link that would explain more about sub-Priming.
Google just gives me links about the financial crisis.
Hahaha, I got the term wrong, probably because that little DMT elves narrative just came out as I was thinking of the concept, but couldn't remember the actual name so I started riffing off of that.
The actual term is Semantic Priming (I recognize the technique from some NLP I've studied, but I've recently run across the hard references):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_%28psychology%29
Replicable Unconscious Semantic Priming (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDUQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fdownload%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.77.5785%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3Dpdf&rct=j&q=semantic%20priming&ei=jbErToeZFYbkiAKf9fmvAg&usg=AFQjCNE0j8rnSB8SRqyr0o6J4JaTNHQy0w&cad=rja)
http://www.interaction-design.org/encyclopedia/priming.html
A discourse on semantic priming (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0010028582900202)
Semantic priming effects with and without perceptual awareness (http://www.uv.es/revispsi/articulos2.06/5ORTELLS.pdf)
Thanks. I'll be sure to look into that.
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on July 24, 2011, 01:17:53 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 23, 2011, 10:42:30 PM
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 23, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
Don't they have vaccines for this sort of thing yet?
I'mma buy him a copy of 'Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America' (http://oneminutebookreviews.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/%E2%80%98smile-or-die%E2%80%99-%E2%80%93-barbara-ehrenreich%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98bright-sided-how-the-relentless-promotion-of-positive-thinking-has-undermined-america%E2%80%99/). See if that helps.
QuoteEhrenreich found when she was diagnosed with breast cancer that a cult of optimism pervaded articles and books about the disease that made her feel isolated instead of supported. "No one among the bloggers and book writers seemed to share my sense of outrage over the disease and the available treatments," she writes in a chapter ironically called "Smile or Die: The Bright Side of Cancer." "What causes it and why is it so common, especially in industrialized societies? Why don't we have treatments that distinguish between different forms of breast cancer or between cancer cells and normal dividing cells?"
Instead of finding answers, Ehrenreich kept coming across articles by women who claimed that they owed their survival to a "positive attitude" – even though the death rate from breast cancer has changed little since the 1930s and there is no consistent evidence that staying upbeat extends the life of those who have the disease, though it may have many other benefits. She also found that "positive thinking" can exact a terrible price in self-blame if a cancer defies treatment. As the oncology nurse Cynthia Rittenberg has written, the pressure to think positively is "an additional burden to an already devastated patient."
It's kind of like the mandatory cheers that WalMart employees have to do. They want you smiling while that big scabby red white & blue dick is spooging cancer into yoor colon.
CANCER CAN BE FUN!!!!!!!!!!
^^^Sounds like a meme.
Here's another:
CANCER IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND YOUR PERSONAL STRENGTH.
I think you just blew my mind.
CANCER IS SPIRIT HELPING YOU LEARN TO BE STILL
CANCER BRINGS OUT YOUR NOBLE NATURE
YOU NEVER KNOW WHO REALLY LOVES YOU UNTIL YOU'RE EATEN UP WITH CANCER
Quote from: navkat on July 24, 2011, 11:04:04 PM
CANCER IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND YOUR PERSONAL STRENGTH.
WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER, AMIRITE???
Quote from: Cain on July 24, 2011, 03:34:38 AM
Uh, Freeky, this is advice for someone who is taking The Secret seriously.
I DISBELIEVE.
Quote from: Jenkem and SPACE/TIME on July 25, 2011, 11:06:30 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 24, 2011, 03:34:38 AM
Uh, Freeky, this is advice for someone who is taking The Secret seriously.
I DISBELIEVE.
Roll your Perception check and describe to me how you're interaction with the Illusion.
:dice-clatter:
I got a 23 Perception, and I'm reexamining my knowledge of human intelligence as a whole and by individual.
If it helps, I have a +4 vs. disenchantment.
I went to a talk on how the secret works early this year.
Was not impressed.
Why should people be expected to actually go to the talks?
Why not lay on the couch and "see yourself going to the talk"? :p
Quote from: Anna Mae Bollocks on July 25, 2011, 01:15:44 PM
Why should people be expected to actually go to the talks?
Why not lay on the couch and "see yourself going to the talk"? :p
YOU ALREADY KNOW ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
THE SECRET. JUST OPEN YOUR HEART AND LET
THE SECRET READ ITSELF TO YOUR MIND
What happens if two Secret fanatics visualize equally very hard on mutually incompatible goals (like, for instance, the supporters of two opposing football teams both wanting a win)? Does the Universe explode?
Goddess :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This thread reminds me of when I used to gamemaster Mage: the Ascension, and players would start trying to argue nick-picky metaphysics things so that they could shift the 'local paradigm' enough that their -otherwise-'vulgar-and-Paradox-generating magic was "coincidence".
I fuckin hated those arguments.
If I can't meta-game The Secret in order to become a demi-god at level one, then I want nothing to do with it.
Quote from: Cain on July 27, 2011, 06:48:08 AM
What happens if two Secret fanatics visualize equally very hard on mutually incompatible goals (like, for instance, the supporters of two opposing football teams both wanting a win)? Does the Universe explode?
You mean the paradox of the impotent force meeting the implausible objective?
MIND BLOWN.