So I want to take photographs of a very cute girl fucking my best friend.
What do? Help me get away with this PD.
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
So I want to take photographs of a very cute girl fucking my best friend.
What do? Help me get away with this PD.
Ask her.
If she says no, ask your best friend to find a different really cute girl.
Quote from: Luna on February 08, 2012, 11:04:28 AM
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
So I want to take photographs of a very cute girl fucking my best friend.
What do? Help me get away with this PD.
Ask her.
If she says no, ask your best friend to find a different really cute girl.
Oh, also ask him.
And finally:
(http://media.wiley.com/Lux/71/286671.image0.jpg)
If they won't cooperate, you can always ask your local deranged taxidermist to set up the scene.
Begin hormone therapy.
Have operation.
Get more cute.
Fuck best friend.
Take self portrait.
Post results to PD for WOMPing purposes.
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
So I want to take photographs of a very cute girl fucking my best friend.
What do? Help me get away with this PD.
I really, really hope your account has been hacked. Because the way you phrased that ("help me get away with this") is really fucking creepy.
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
So I want to take photographs of a very cute girl fucking my best friend.
What do? Help me get away with this PD.
If you have to "get away with it", you probably shouldn't do it in the first place.
And I 2nd LMNO, the way that's phrased IS really creepy.
This is fucked.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 01:45:39 PM
This is fucked.
So, apparently, is his friend.
...I'll go back to my corner.
Devil's advocate:
You know what? I can't even devil's advocate this one, because of the phrasing. If he had two friends, both of whom were exhibitionists (or at least nice enough to give Net some home-grown wank material), and consented to fuck while being photographed, then he wouldn't have asked us how to make it happen.
Every time I try to think of a scenario that would lead to him posting the OP, I end up with "non-consentual".
Which is so very not OK.
I just assume he was setting up a joke.
But, yeah. If real, horrible phrasing.
I agree with LMNO that this request is kind of weird. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that this is just a weird PD zany LOL-joke. But if serious, I don't get it. What's the end game? To get it on the internet? I mean, the internet is awash with that stuff. It's not like it's going to get any special notice compared to anything else. Or is this for your personal use?
RWHN,
not sure what's going on here.
There's also the issue - why would anyone even have to ask a question like this? Even the most technically retarded person in the world (which Net is not) would know - you hide a spycam, you capture the stream, you go home and fap.
This question is wrong on many levels (not just the creepy ones)
Uhhh
this has GOT to either be a setup for a joke, or someone hacked Net's account. This is super fucked-up and not like anything Net would be cool with. Plus there was that weird-ass post in Navkat's thread, so I'm thinking someone else is trying to make Net look like a jackass.
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
or someone hacked Net's account.
I hope so. I'll check the IP for differences.
IP is the same as he's used for a long time, which means either
A) It's him, or
B) Someone at his house has fucked with his account.
This is why you log off when you leave, kids.
ehhh I suspect that this is probably way more innocent than Net trying to get all stalkey-creepy-paparazzi about a girl without her consent
Quote from: Cramulus on February 08, 2012, 05:56:50 PM
ehhh I suspect that this is probably way more innocent than Net trying to get all stalkey-creepy-paparazzi about a girl without her consent
See the three previous posts.
Yeah, I'm waiting to see what the deal is before I pass any judgment because this really doesn't sound like Net at all.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on February 08, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
Yeah, I'm waiting to see what the deal is before I pass any judgment because this really doesn't sound like Net at all.
Troof. He and I haven't gotten along for years, but I never saw any shit like this.
Or the garbage in Navkat's thread. It's almost like BH took control of Net's account.
Did Net have an account at the old EB&G?
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
Uhhh
this has GOT to either be a setup for a joke, or someone hacked Net's account. This is super fucked-up and not like anything Net would be cool with. Plus there was that weird-ass post in Navkat's thread, so I'm thinking someone else is trying to make Net look like a jackass.
I didn't even consider that, my options were either
- some ridiculous troll/joke (I had to think back about ECH one time in IRC ...) which is how I responded
- or, since it's his
best friend, maybe it's for some kind of prank, but I can't really imagine any scenario how that would be "okay" in any sort of way. perhaps if he made him a bet with him or something? then there's still the girl ... and that's really stretching "assume good faith" we'd like a LOT more info then.
- residual orange overdose got in his brain
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 08, 2012, 06:28:29 PM
- residual orange overdose got in his brain
Not even ONCE!
I'm willing to wait until Net responds before passing judgement.
My first thought was that Net walked away from his computer and either the friend or the girl thought it would be funny to post this. It totally just doesn't sound like him... "engaged in sexual congress"? That's almost as bad as "coitus".
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
My first thought was that Net walked away from his computer and either the friend or the girl thought it would be funny to post this. It totally just doesn't sound like him... "engaged in sexual congress"? That's almost as bad as "coitus".
Mark my words...Either BH or CU are involved in this.
Net woulda just said "fucking".
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 08:31:43 PM"engaged in sexual congress"?
maybe he meant to post it in Aneristic Illusions as some sort of political commentary? :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
My first thought was that Net walked away from his computer and either the friend or the girl thought it would be funny to post this. It totally just doesn't sound like him... "engaged in sexual congress"? That's almost as bad as "coitus".
Mark my words...Either BH or CU are involved in this.
Net woulda just said "fucking".
BH isn't smart enough or motivated enough to pull this sort of thing off, and it's not his style anyway. CU, on the other hand, knows how to spoof an IP IIRC. I wouldn't put it past him, but I can't imagine why he'd pick Net to be his dupe and I don't remember ever having seen Net over at EB&G.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on February 08, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
My first thought was that Net walked away from his computer and either the friend or the girl thought it would be funny to post this. It totally just doesn't sound like him... "engaged in sexual congress"? That's almost as bad as "coitus".
Mark my words...Either BH or CU are involved in this.
Net woulda just said "fucking".
BH isn't smart enough or motivated enough to pull this sort of thing off, and it's not his style anyway. CU, on the other hand, knows how to spoof an IP IIRC. I wouldn't put it past him, but I can't imagine why he'd pick Net to be his dupe and I don't remember ever having seen Net over at EB&G.
Frankly, I think someone at his house - or a visiting "friend" - got on his comp, and he wasn't logged out.
Yeah, if anyone got access to my laptop, they could easily pretend to be me.
Of course, getting access to the laptop in the first place wouldn't be easy, but once they did...plus I've seen how often my idiot friends leave their computers on Facebook when other people are around.
Seems like the most plausible explanation.
My other thought was that he got a head full of WAY too much acid.
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
My first thought was that Net walked away from his computer and either the friend or the girl thought it would be funny to post this. It totally just doesn't sound like him... "engaged in sexual congress"? That's almost as bad as "coitus".
??? The OP does say "fucking." Did he change it right away? It doesn't have the edit timestamp.
It's in the title of the thread.
Derp.
This was just a bad joke to riff on, which in retrospect does have very creepy connotations due to the way I worded it. My bad.
I'm fairly sure they're going to say yes as this girl has access to a dark room and hence could control the negatives and production of the photos.
I was inspired by Juan Francisco Casas' giant bic pen drawings (http://www.juanfranciscocasas.com/es/galeria) (NSFW). So the purpose for these would be for titillating art, not porn.
Sorry to freak you guys out. I typically never post while drunk and physically exhausted...
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
This was just a bad joke to riff on, which in retrospect does have very creepy connotations due to the way I worded it. My bad.
I'm fairly sure they're going to say yes as this girl has access to a dark room and hence could control the negatives and production of the photos.
I was inspired by Juan Francisco Casas' giant bic pen drawings (http://www.juanfranciscocasas.com/es/galeria) (NSFW). So the purpose for these would be for titillating art, not porn.
Sorry to freak you guys out. I typically never post while drunk and physically exhausted...
S'ok. I've had jokes or even offhand comments come out creepier than fuck, myself.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:28:23 PM
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
This was just a bad joke to riff on, which in retrospect does have very creepy connotations due to the way I worded it. My bad.
I'm fairly sure they're going to say yes as this girl has access to a dark room and hence could control the negatives and production of the photos.
I was inspired by Juan Francisco Casas' giant bic pen drawings (http://www.juanfranciscocasas.com/es/galeria) (NSFW). So the purpose for these would be for titillating art, not porn.
Sorry to freak you guys out. I typically never post while drunk and physically exhausted...
S'ok. I've had jokes or even offhand comments come out creepier than fuck, myself.
Yeah, sometimes things just come out alllllll fucked up.
Like that time that we all ate the purple berries.
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
This was just a bad joke to riff on, which in retrospect does have very creepy connotations due to the way I worded it. My bad.
I'm fairly sure they're going to say yes as this girl has access to a dark room and hence could control the negatives and production of the photos.
I was inspired by Juan Francisco Casas' giant bic pen drawings (http://www.juanfranciscocasas.com/es/galeria) (NSFW). So the purpose for these would be for titillating art, not porn.
Sorry to freak you guys out. I typically never post while drunk and physically exhausted...
No worries, man. Those of us that know you (and most of those that don't) were pretty sure it wasn't what it seemed.
Though I still think the phrase "sexual congress" is disturbing. Mostly because it keeps giving me visions of John Boehner and Nancy Pelosi bumping uglies.
And I do mean UGLIES.
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on February 08, 2012, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
This was just a bad joke to riff on, which in retrospect does have very creepy connotations due to the way I worded it. My bad.
I'm fairly sure they're going to say yes as this girl has access to a dark room and hence could control the negatives and production of the photos.
I was inspired by Juan Francisco Casas' giant bic pen drawings (http://www.juanfranciscocasas.com/es/galeria) (NSFW). So the purpose for these would be for titillating art, not porn.
Sorry to freak you guys out. I typically never post while drunk and physically exhausted...
No worries, man. Those of us that know you (and most of those that don't) were pretty sure it wasn't what it seemed.
Though I still think the phrase "sexual congress" is disturbing. Mostly because it keeps giving me visions of John Boehner and Nancy Pelosi bumping uglies.
And I do mean UGLIES.
Sort of weirded me out in another way, like maybe he started channeling BH. I never liked that fucker (BH), because he creeped me out immediately by referring to sex as "Coitus". Who the FUCK calls sex "coitus" outside of Masters & Johnson? My immediate impression of him formed as THAT guy, who always smells of jizz but never of pussy, if you catch my drift.
the term makes me think of Maude from the Big Lebowski.
Is BH Gone For Good™ now?
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on February 08, 2012, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: Net on February 08, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
This was just a bad joke to riff on, which in retrospect does have very creepy connotations due to the way I worded it. My bad.
I'm fairly sure they're going to say yes as this girl has access to a dark room and hence could control the negatives and production of the photos.
I was inspired by Juan Francisco Casas' giant bic pen drawings (http://www.juanfranciscocasas.com/es/galeria) (NSFW). So the purpose for these would be for titillating art, not porn.
Sorry to freak you guys out. I typically never post while drunk and physically exhausted...
No worries, man. Those of us that know you (and most of those that don't) were pretty sure it wasn't what it seemed.
Though I still think the phrase "sexual congress" is disturbing. Mostly because it keeps giving me visions of John Boehner and Nancy Pelosi bumping uglies.
And I do mean UGLIES.
:lulz:
I imagine congressional debates about some sort of sexual contest.
"I hereby move to have Ms Pelosi disqualified from round 2 due to evidence of vagina dentata."
"Bite marks on Mr Boehner's penis were noted before the coital session commenced. This is ridiculous."
I see "sexual congress" I'm thinking of some after-hours club for old-codgers run by Larry Craig and Mark Foley.
Quote from: Iptuous on February 09, 2012, 12:13:10 AM
the term makes me think of Maude from the Big Lebowski.
Is BH Gone For Good™ now?
If you don't spell out his whole name, I think so.
He's turned into the B*n M*ck of squick. :lulz:
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on February 09, 2012, 12:33:34 AM
He's turned into the B*n M*ck of squick. :lulz:
:lulz: I was thinking the same thing.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:26:42 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 09, 2012, 12:13:10 AM
the term makes me think of Maude from the Big Lebowski.
Is BH Gone For Good™ now?
If you don't spell out his whole name, I think so.
Or say his name 3 times while looking in a mirror
Glad that's sorted out. I'd like to hear more about that project though Net, if you're willing to share?
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on February 08, 2012, 08:55:26 PMCU, on the other hand, knows how to spoof an IP IIRC.
Just FYI, it is generally NOT possible to spoof an arbitrary IP. In the sense that the IP we saw on that post was one that Net's been using for quite a while, and a hypothetical hacker can't just hack something like "I want
that particular IP" (given that he knows which one it is--which CU could have gotten from the EB&G logs, theoretically).
From the top of my head, these are the possibilities that come closest to "spoofing" an IP:
- use a proxy. You get the proxy's IP. If you put in some effort, this means you can "spoof" the rough geographical location where that IP is located.
- change the server logs to report a different IP. you need to hack into the server and then you can change it to any IP you want. this is a LOT of effort for a prank. While precision-social-engineering like just changing one IP in the logs can be very powerful if you play your cards right, if a hacker gets that kind of access to a server, they can also do a lot of other damage.
- this option actually is what is generally (by knowledgeable hackers) considered "IP spoofing", but it requires a special set of circumstances: IF you are on the same network as the target, that is the local network, like being on the same home router, or breaking into the same wireless network as the target. The target in this case would be the PD server (which is not on wireless, I hope). Then you can do some very low-level network hacking, which I believe is called "ARP poisoning" (but I could be mistaken) and somehow identify yourself on that local network as originating from an arbitrary IP. I think. This is pretty involved and difficult to pull off, although there are probably script-kiddie solutions available, like the BackTrack Linux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackTrack_Linux) distro (basically an Ubuntu version that comes prepackaged with all sorts of hacking tools--and it will run from a USB stick!). And then a good network (like I hope Dreamhost is) would have protections against that sort of thing, and given that you have to be pretty close to the target, chances of getting caught are higher as well.
I could be wrong on all of this, maybe there's other possibilities, but as far as I know, this is it.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 09, 2012, 10:10:31 PM
Glad that's sorted out. I'd like to hear more about that project though Net, if you're willing to share?
The end pieces will not be photographs but I can't divulge the medium/concept until the project is basically completed.
I can say it's a quite different direction than Juan Francisco Casas' work.
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 09, 2012, 10:10:31 PM
Glad that's sorted out. I'd like to hear more about that project though Net, if you're willing to share?
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on February 08, 2012, 08:55:26 PMCU, on the other hand, knows how to spoof an IP IIRC.
Just FYI, it is generally NOT possible to spoof an arbitrary IP. In the sense that the IP we saw on that post was one that Net's been using for quite a while, and a hypothetical hacker can't just hack something like "I want that particular IP" (given that he knows which one it is--which CU could have gotten from the EB&G logs, theoretically).
From the top of my head, these are the possibilities that come closest to "spoofing" an IP:
- use a proxy. You get the proxy's IP. If you put in some effort, this means you can "spoof" the rough geographical location where that IP is located.
- change the server logs to report a different IP. you need to hack into the server and then you can change it to any IP you want. this is a LOT of effort for a prank. While precision-social-engineering like just changing one IP in the logs can be very powerful if you play your cards right, if a hacker gets that kind of access to a server, they can also do a lot of other damage.
- this option actually is what is generally (by knowledgeable hackers) considered "IP spoofing", but it requires a special set of circumstances: IF you are on the same network as the target, that is the local network, like being on the same home router, or breaking into the same wireless network as the target. The target in this case would be the PD server (which is not on wireless, I hope). Then you can do some very low-level network hacking, which I believe is called "ARP poisoning" (but I could be mistaken) and somehow identify yourself on that local network as originating from an arbitrary IP. I think. This is pretty involved and difficult to pull off, although there are probably script-kiddie solutions available, like the BackTrack Linux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackTrack_Linux) distro (basically an Ubuntu version that comes prepackaged with all sorts of hacking tools--and it will run from a USB stick!). And then a good network (like I hope Dreamhost is) would have protections against that sort of thing, and given that you have to be pretty close to the target, chances of getting caught are higher as well.
I could be wrong on all of this, maybe there's other possibilities, but as far as I know, this is it.
- You can somehow disable the real IP (DDOS, for instance), and then send the spoofed messages needed to make the post. This requires you to blindly keep sending packages to the server without getting any feedback. I'm not sure about the details, but this may be possible if you somehow got a hold of the PD.com cookie NET has.
- You can install a proxy or other malicious software on a computer at the target IP address.
- Never heard about this DDoS method, you got a link or perhaps a name of the technique or some lead so I can find out more about it?
though, you can't post to PD with just a one-way connection that can only send but not receive, even if you obtain the cookie, because every post form contains a random or uniquely generated nonce value which you need to send back together with the post or it won't get accepted. originally intended as protection against cross-site request forgery, which also hinges on only being able to send a request not receive a response to fake an identity
it's a rotten shame I didn't have more fun with that before they closed that hole :(
- another way, similar to malicious software, would be finding an XSS hole on the pd.com domain somewhere (although there are more interesting things than faking posts to do with such a thing) (so you just do those first)
That kind of attack is in the theoretically possible category, not the practically possible one. The sources I got this information have long ago been forgotten by me, and I don't remember much more than I posted above.
You exploit that you can simply mislabel packets you send by filling in a different IP address [1] (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc791#section-3.1). You also need to get around some defenses in TCP. It's usually used (according to the IP spoofing page in wikipedia) as a measure to hack IP based authentication, but can theoretically be used to make an attack seem come from a different IP.
The DDOS is needed to prevent someone at the genuine IP address from responding and ruining the connection.
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