Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
wtf?!
that's messed up. Did he just decide that the flow was suitable where it is and wanted to sweep it under the rug?
whatever the case, this guy's a shitty engineer.
now, i've only worked at one place since i came out of the box, so i'm curious what the extent of your basis is for the claim that "most engineers are like this."?
also, do i recall correctly that you said this guy is an actual PE?
I just... damn.
How bad is it that the flow isn't what you expect?
Quote from: Luna on February 08, 2012, 04:26:25 PM
I just... damn.
How bad is it that the flow isn't what you expect?
It explains a few problems we've been having with nuisance alarms.
Nothing serious...But the point is that
this was the engineer's solution for a problem.@Iptuous: Yeah, he's a PE. And I've only met two engineers that weren't like this.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
That explains so, so much. :lol:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 08, 2012, 04:26:25 PM
I just... damn.
How bad is it that the flow isn't what you expect?
It explains a few problems we've been having with nuisance alarms.
Nothing serious...But the point is that this was the engineer's solution for a problem.
@Iptuous: Yeah, he's a PE. And I've only met two engineers that weren't like this.
Engineer = idiot, I got that part, I was wondering if he was idiot enough to blow up your plant, is all. If so, I would be forced to smuggle myself to Tuscon via U.S. Mail and explain my displeasure to him with a blunt object.
is the process not working, and that is why the meters were put in place? (to determine and control the flow)
or was the process working fine, and when the new meters were put in place the filthy engineer decided that the process is robust enough to handle the current flow, and changing the meters to lie is simply easier (although improper) than going through the procedure needed to change the process to allow for current flow?
Quote from: Iptuous on February 08, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
is the process not working, and that is why the meters were put in place? (to determine and control the flow)
or was the process working fine, and when the new meters were put in place the filthy engineer decided that the process is robust enough to handle the current flow, and changing the meters to lie is simply easier (although improper) than going through the procedure needed to change the process to allow for current flow?
The meters were installed as predictive maintenance, in a pair of process loops that have given us nuisance alarms further upstream. It basically allows the operations geeks to see the flow instead of just the pressure, which allows them to flush plugged lines BEFORE a blowout, instead of just cleaning up the mess and installing new pipe (the pipe is carrying max-chloride HCl and ACH).
And the results are not what Mike had earlier proclaimed would be the case, so the only rational thing to do is lie to yourself by offsetting the display, instead of thinking that maybe something you didn't think of might be going on.
In short, Mike's ego > not potentially dumping 50 gallons of acid slurry on an operator at 3AM.
:facepalm:
and this is widely known? that he does shit like this?
Right. Blunt object tiem.
...That seems like a radically bad idea, adjusting the meters to match expectations. Like, potentially fucking shit seriously up bad. What the hell.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
As someone who's primary degree was calibration, not only is what he is doing going to cause huge problems with the process down the line but
someone could die
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
WOW. Roger, please tell me that the next time something like this happens, you're going to strip him naked and send him down the pipe with a flashlight and a screwdriver to fix the problem.
I thought "change the display to match our expectations" was the method used by everyone in the US, from education to politics. Not just engineering.
You guys are just being major downers, man.
Needless to say, I did no such thing, and now Mike is running around all butthurt. The boss is out of town, and from the copied reply he sent back, Mike's argument didn't hold any water there, either.
Let me say that again: He complained to the boss because I wouldn't falsify the instruments.
:whack:
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on February 08, 2012, 09:08:54 PM
WOW. Roger, please tell me that the next time something like this happens, you're going to strip him naked and send him down the pipe with a flashlight and a screwdriver to fix the problem.
Good luck. He has trouble squeezing though the door to his office.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
So he found something wrong with the flow, and rather then try to fix it he tried to cover it up. If he did that with the likes of any of the pharmaceuticals he would be blacklisted worldwide.
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
It's only maxed out hydrochloric acid and synthetic sapphire, passing right over a walkway.
:lol:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:27:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on February 08, 2012, 09:08:54 PM
WOW. Roger, please tell me that the next time something like this happens, you're going to strip him naked and send him down the pipe with a flashlight and a screwdriver to fix the problem.
Good luck. He has trouble squeezing though the door to his office.
What if we lube him up real good, and maybe do some "pipe maintenance"?
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on February 08, 2012, 09:32:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:27:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on February 08, 2012, 09:08:54 PM
WOW. Roger, please tell me that the next time something like this happens, you're going to strip him naked and send him down the pipe with a flashlight and a screwdriver to fix the problem.
Good luck. He has trouble squeezing though the door to his office.
What if we lube him up real good, and maybe do some "pipe maintenance"?
Running him through the disintegrator has been discussed.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
It's only maxed out hydrochloric acid and synthetic sapphire, passing right over a walkway.
:lol:
I'm sure when the rivets blow out of the pipe and acid starts pooling on the floor our hero will be the first in with a "caution, slippery floor" sign.
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
It's only maxed out hydrochloric acid and synthetic sapphire, passing right over a walkway.
:lol:
I'm sure when the rivets blow out of the pipe and acid starts pooling on the floor our hero will be the first in with a "caution, slippery floor" sign.
Rivets? :lol:
This shit is going through 1-1/2" schedule 80 PVC pipe. When it blows out, it's fucking SPECTACULAR.
"pooling". :lol:
It's more of a horrible, high pressure spray of awful acidy death.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
It's only maxed out hydrochloric acid and synthetic sapphire, passing right over a walkway.
:lol:
I'm sure when the rivets blow out of the pipe and acid starts pooling on the floor our hero will be the first in with a "caution, slippery floor" sign.
Rivets? :lol:
This shit is going through 1-1/2" schedule 80 PVC pipe. When it blows out, it's fucking SPECTACULAR.
"pooling". :lol:
It's more of a horrible, high pressure spray of awful acidy death.
Oh, there is no way at all that that might have been a poor choice for design. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor M. Phox0 on February 08, 2012, 09:37:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
It's only maxed out hydrochloric acid and synthetic sapphire, passing right over a walkway.
:lol:
I'm sure when the rivets blow out of the pipe and acid starts pooling on the floor our hero will be the first in with a "caution, slippery floor" sign.
Rivets? :lol:
This shit is going through 1-1/2" schedule 80 PVC pipe. When it blows out, it's fucking SPECTACULAR.
"pooling". :lol:
It's more of a horrible, high pressure spray of awful acidy death.
Oh, there is no way at all that that might have been a poor choice for design. :lulz:
Actually, PVC is the only pipe we can use in that location. Fibercast pipe erodes and blows out, and teflon lined steel pipe can't take the abrasion from the sapphire.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
It's only maxed out hydrochloric acid and synthetic sapphire, passing right over a walkway.
:lol:
I'm sure when the rivets blow out of the pipe and acid starts pooling on the floor our hero will be the first in with a "caution, slippery floor" sign.
Rivets? :lol:
This shit is going through 1-1/2" schedule 80 PVC pipe. When it blows out, it's fucking SPECTACULAR.
"pooling". :lol:
It's more of a horrible, high pressure spray of awful acidy death.
Oh, there is no way at all that that might have been a poor choice for design. :lulz:
Actually, PVC is the only pipe we can use in that location. Fibercast pipe erodes and blows out, and teflon lined steel pipe can't take the abrasion from the sapphire.
I really can't see how this guy could be willing to try cover up irregularities in the flow with something so dangerous and expensive.
Is he actively trying to kill someone, I think I could respect that more than what you are describing.
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:47:23 PM
I really can't see how this guy could be willing to try cover up irregularities in the flow with something so dangerous and expensive.
Is he actively trying to kill someone, I think I could respect that more than what you are describing.
No, he's just a dumbass who can't stand being wrong, even on a guess, is all.
See my sig for further info.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
Needless to say, I did no such thing, and now Mike is running around all butthurt. The boss is out of town, and from the copied reply he sent back, Mike's argument didn't hold any water there, either.
Let me say that again: He complained to the boss because I wouldn't falsify the instruments.
:whack:
You know, that sounds like an awful good way to a) get fired, b) get fired and blamed for every little thing that goes wrong, his fault or not, and c) never, ever be able to get a letter of reference out of a boss.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on February 08, 2012, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
Needless to say, I did no such thing, and now Mike is running around all butthurt. The boss is out of town, and from the copied reply he sent back, Mike's argument didn't hold any water there, either.
Let me say that again: He complained to the boss because I wouldn't falsify the instruments.
:whack:
You know, that sounds like an awful good way to a) get fired, b) get fired and blamed for every little thing that goes wrong, his fault or not, and c) never, ever be able to get a letter of reference out of a boss.
Not in this company. We'll fire hourly people for squinting at you, but salaried personnel can even act like ME and get away with it. The Beast is so damned big that individual incompetence doesn't even register.
because the flow meters are being installed for predictive maintenance, i can see how adjusting them to get the "correct" flow would be acceptable (not that i agree with it).
maybe, instead, mike needs to adjust his preconceptions?
also, Roger, your sig line is the modus operandi at the mill where i work.
dumbness is rampant
Today's Dilbert made me think of Roger.
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/431252_10150533287846135_578371134_9279053_1408385955_n.jpg)
Quote from: Luna on February 11, 2012, 01:57:02 PM
Today's Dilbert made me think of Roger.
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/431252_10150533287846135_578371134_9279053_1408385955_n.jpg)
HELL YES. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
People, you just don't understand.
Mike is the main character.
Well I'm also mike and I know if I pulled that shit I wouldn't expect to have a job for very much longer.
Edit: Its not even like flowmeters are hard to calibrate or expensive to replace.
The flow meters are new, freshly calibrated, and in disagreement with Mike's preconceptions.
Obviously, the universe is being irrational and should pay more attention.
Oh dear, if the readings are correct then him trying to cover it up could be even more serious. I sure hope whatever is going through those pipes isn't part of a critical process....
It's only maxed out hydrochloric acid and synthetic sapphire, passing right over a walkway.
:lol:
I'm sure when the rivets blow out of the pipe and acid starts pooling on the floor our hero will be the first in with a "caution, slippery floor" sign.
Rivets? :lol:
This shit is going through 1-1/2" schedule 80 PVC pipe. When it blows out, it's fucking SPECTACULAR.
"pooling". :lol:
It's more of a horrible, high pressure spray of awful acidy death.
Oh, there is no way at all that that might have been a poor choice for design. :lulz:
Actually, PVC is the only pipe we can use in that location. Fibercast pipe erodes and blows out, and teflon lined steel pipe can't take the abrasion from the sapphire.
I was thinking about the fact that it goes directly over the walk way more than material. It's almost like something you'd expect in a super villain's lair.
Hey, Roger, do you make fake shinies for shiny purposes or industrial? Because it would be crazy awesome if your factory made the rock on my finger right now :lulz:
Quote from: Queen_Gogira on February 12, 2012, 03:43:52 AM
Hey, Roger, do you make fake shinies for shiny purposes or industrial? Because it would be crazy awesome if your factory made the rock on my finger right now :lulz:
Industrial.
In :pope:logical terms, it's just converting the procession's excursion, to fit the actual rate of flow? :lulz:
:pope:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 12, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
In :pope:logical terms, it's just converting the procession's excursion, to fit the actual rate of flow? :lulz:
The what's what?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 12, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
In :pope:logical terms, it's just converting the procession's excursion, to fit the actual rate of flow? :lulz:
The what's what?
It's pinealism at its "finest."
Luciferx is that pinealist jackhole who kept pissing people off, so he left for a long time and then changed his name. I forgot what it used to be.
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 13, 2012, 04:04:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 12, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
In :pope:logical terms, it's just converting the procession's excursion, to fit the actual rate of flow? :lulz:
The what's what?
It's pinealism at its "finest."
Luciferx is that pinealist jackhole who kept pissing people off, so he left for a long time and then changed his name. I forgot what it used to be.
Actually, I think he was trying to speak Industrial, and boogered it up.
Or maybe he was just dribbling his normal goo.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 13, 2012, 04:04:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 12, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
In :pope:logical terms, it's just converting the procession's excursion, to fit the actual rate of flow? :lulz:
The what's what?
It's pinealism at its "finest."
Luciferx is that pinealist jackhole who kept pissing people off, so he left for a long time and then changed his name. I forgot what it used to be.
Actually, I think he was trying to speak Industrial, and boogered it up.
Or maybe he was just dribbling his normal goo.
I didn't think of the first one, but he's got a history of the second..
Yea, I was trying to get at thinking about how the "correct" rate of flow is calculated? Who determines in advance what it should be? Does it depend on the application? If it is so calibrated, maybe the only important reading is the relative displacement or excursion, twats... :wink:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 09:57:50 PM
Yea, I was trying to get at thinking about how the "correct" rate of flow is calculated? Who determines in advance what it should be? Does it depend on the application? If it is so calibrated, maybe the only important reading is the relative displacement or excursion, twats... :wink:
Well, sure. But we don't have a "procession". I mean, the priests wouldn't even be wearing hard hats and respirators, would they?
True, I admit maybe having plans for that particular word, and maybe I tried to slip it in... The trinity needs to go places... Although the joke would have worked better if instead of fake precious stones for synthesis, the pipes carried something else... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
True, I admit maybe having plans for that particular word, and maybe I tried to slip it in... The trinity needs to go places... Although the joke would have worked better if instead of fake precious stones for synthesis, the pipes carried something else... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
True, I admit maybe having plans for that particular word, and maybe I tried to slip it in... The trinity needs to go places... Although the joke would have worked better if instead of fake precious stones for synthesis, the pipes carried something else... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE.
I think he's saying:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
I have a fetish for Catholic ceremonies with the incense and the crowns of candles so I couldn't really think of anything else when I was masturbaing furiously and picturing the priests tucking dollar bills into the G-strings under their robes, picturing the... the... The trinity needs to go places... in my dark damp hiding place with the roots and centipedes. Although the fantasy with the dwarf choir would have worked better if instead of pipes pipes pipes pipes GAH instead the dwarves carried multiple naked renditions of Lou Reed mounted on Rue McLanahan... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
what. the. FUCK. :lulz:
Quote from: Nigel on February 14, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
True, I admit maybe having plans for that particular word, and maybe I tried to slip it in... The trinity needs to go places... Although the joke would have worked better if instead of fake precious stones for synthesis, the pipes carried something else... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE.
I think he's saying:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
I have a fetish for Catholic ceremonies with the incense and the crowns of candles so I couldn't really think of anything else when I was masturbaing furiously and picturing the priests tucking dollar bills into the G-strings under their robes, picturing the... the... The trinity needs to go places... in my dark damp hiding place with the roots and centipedes. Although the fantasy with the dwarf choir would have worked better if instead of pipes pipes pipes pipes GAH instead the dwarves carried multiple naked renditions of Lou Reed mounted on Rue McLanahan... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but my Pinealism is all rusty and I wanted to be sure.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 14, 2012, 12:20:45 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 14, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
True, I admit maybe having plans for that particular word, and maybe I tried to slip it in... The trinity needs to go places... Although the joke would have worked better if instead of fake precious stones for synthesis, the pipes carried something else... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE.
I think he's saying:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
I have a fetish for Catholic ceremonies with the incense and the crowns of candles so I couldn't really think of anything else when I was masturbaing furiously and picturing the priests tucking dollar bills into the G-strings under their robes, picturing the... the... The trinity needs to go places... in my dark damp hiding place with the roots and centipedes. Although the fantasy with the dwarf choir would have worked better if instead of pipes pipes pipes pipes GAH instead the dwarves carried multiple naked renditions of Lou Reed mounted on Rue McLanahan... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but my Pinealism is all rusty and I wanted to be sure.
I may be off a bit, grammatically speaking, but the gist of it is there.
Quote from: Nigel on February 14, 2012, 12:32:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 14, 2012, 12:20:45 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 14, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
True, I admit maybe having plans for that particular word, and maybe I tried to slip it in... The trinity needs to go places... Although the joke would have worked better if instead of fake precious stones for synthesis, the pipes carried something else... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE.
I think he's saying:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
I have a fetish for Catholic ceremonies with the incense and the crowns of candles so I couldn't really think of anything else when I was masturbaing furiously and picturing the priests tucking dollar bills into the G-strings under their robes, picturing the... the... The trinity needs to go places... in my dark damp hiding place with the roots and centipedes. Although the fantasy with the dwarf choir would have worked better if instead of pipes pipes pipes pipes GAH instead the dwarves carried multiple naked renditions of Lou Reed mounted on Rue McLanahan... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but my Pinealism is all rusty and I wanted to be sure.
I may be off a bit, grammatically speaking, but the gist of it is there.
As an aside, your translation made me hork up my duck sammich.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 14, 2012, 12:33:07 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 14, 2012, 12:32:13 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 14, 2012, 12:20:45 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 14, 2012, 12:15:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 13, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
True, I admit maybe having plans for that particular word, and maybe I tried to slip it in... The trinity needs to go places... Although the joke would have worked better if instead of fake precious stones for synthesis, the pipes carried something else... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE.
I think he's saying:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 13, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
I have a fetish for Catholic ceremonies with the incense and the crowns of candles so I couldn't really think of anything else when I was masturbaing furiously and picturing the priests tucking dollar bills into the G-strings under their robes, picturing the... the... The trinity needs to go places... in my dark damp hiding place with the roots and centipedes. Although the fantasy with the dwarf choir would have worked better if instead of pipes pipes pipes pipes GAH instead the dwarves carried multiple naked renditions of Lou Reed mounted on Rue McLanahan... I know, dirty, but worth a shot.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but my Pinealism is all rusty and I wanted to be sure.
I may be off a bit, grammatically speaking, but the gist of it is there.
As an aside, your translation made me hork up my duck sammich.
It's always good to know I've still got it.
I mean, that's great and all, but just because it was important to me to have the moment commemorated with some good old fashioned taxidermy, its not becoming for you to make fun of my circumincission... :lulz:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 14, 2012, 09:59:50 AM
I mean, that's great and all, but just because it was important to me to have the moment commemorated with some good old fashioned taxidermy, its not becoming for you to make fun of my circumincission... :lulz:
Circumcision? We're making fun of your castration. I mean how did the doctor screw those two procedures up?
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on February 14, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 14, 2012, 09:59:50 AM
I mean, that's great and all, but just because it was important to me to have the moment commemorated with some good old fashioned taxidermy, its not becoming for you to make fun of my circumincission... :lulz:
Circumcision? We're making fun of your castration. I mean how did the doctor screw those two procedures up?
Oops. Autocorrect for circumincession, or your lack of imagination :fap:
jesus.
who is this guy?
i was just thinking, "this is just like that other pinealist assburger whose name i can't recall offhand." but that guy's been gone a good while.
then i notice his post count. (which seems to have been restored to the actual postcount number for some reason)
so, this guy's been here for a long time? who is he?
Quote from: Iptuous on February 14, 2012, 04:18:40 PM
jesus.
who is this guy?
i was just thinking, "this is just like that other pinealist assburger whose name i can't recall offhand." but that guy's been gone a good while.
then i notice his post count. (which seems to have been restored to the actual postcount number for some reason)
so, this guy's been here for a long time? who is he?
The same guy he was when he regged. Sort of a combination of Yatto, Enki, and a hebephrenic.
Quote from: Iptuous on February 14, 2012, 04:18:40 PM(which seems to have been restored to the actual postcount number for some reason)
I did no such thing.
Except in SMF2 the postcount in the profile is now also wrong.
But LuciferX has been here quite a while, yeah, he was gone for some time though.
ahh...
Yatto. that's who i was thinking of. it's like Yatto. except we are currently enduring it. :kingmeh:
Trip. so the postcounts next to everybody are not accurate? why did they change from the '-42 Scovilles' etc.?
Quote from: Iptuous on February 14, 2012, 04:34:39 PM
ahh...
Yatto. that's who i was thinking of. it's like Yatto. except we are currently enduring it. :kingmeh:
Trip. so the postcounts next to everybody are not accurate? why did they change from the '-42 Scovilles' etc.?
Because Faust upgraded the forum to SMF 2.x which replaced the whole codebase.
I haven't gotten around to putting all the mods back in. As a quick fix I hacked up the postcount display function a bit so it's not accurate. Very much extreme hacker points if you figure out how it's hacked up.
When I do put it in, I will add "Scoville" to the list of random units though, thanks for the suggestion :)
gotcha.
what does SMF2.0 have that prompted the switch? is it a security thing, or maintenance ease, or something else?
Not sure actually. I was having an extremely busy week when the switch happened and it kind of took me by surprise as well. Faust should answer that.
There are a few things SMF2 is better in that I've noticed, but I don't think they prompted the switch. The one thing that comes to mind right now is that the HTML templates it outputs are prettier HTML-wise, which makes it easier for me to add modifications to it. Not that I have, yet, but that's mainly to do with my netbook starting to really fall apart (editing code on a remote machine is not fun if you need to hold the network cable *just like that* to keep your connection) and right now I have a new laptop, but I don't have the right coding tools in place yet (mostly due to being on Win7 now and not having decided what the best ones will be).
Back to topic:
Quote from: Iptuous on February 14, 2012, 04:34:39 PM
ahh...
... so the postcounts next to everybody are not accurate? why did they change from the '-42 Scovilles' etc.?
I think what we are all really concerned about is units of measurement.
Roger: when you were asked to falsify the values, did that include units of measurement?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
Just wanted to add that this happens a lot. My father sells flowmeters. When a customer is complaining that the flow is not as expected, it's usually easier to "fix" the number on the screen than to convince the customer they calculated the flow wrong, o that the other (more expensive system) is wong or shows something different. The art is in explaining why you can adjust the scaling.
It's not actually policy to do this of course. And surprisingly my father claims it's never actually gone wrong.
Quote from: el sjaako on February 15, 2012, 01:57:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
Just wanted to add that this happens a lot. My father sells flowmeters. When a customer is complaining that the flow is not as expected, it's usually easier to "fix" the number on the screen than to convince the customer they calculated the flow wrong, o that the other (more expensive system) is wong or shows something different. The art is in explaining why you can adjust the scaling.
It's not actually policy to do this of course. And surprisingly my father claims it's never actually gone wrong.
Obviously the WAAAGH! is behind this.
Quote from: Uncle Wallified on February 15, 2012, 04:54:56 PM
Quote from: el sjaako on February 15, 2012, 01:57:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
Just wanted to add that this happens a lot. My father sells flowmeters. When a customer is complaining that the flow is not as expected, it's usually easier to "fix" the number on the screen than to convince the customer they calculated the flow wrong, o that the other (more expensive system) is wong or shows something different. The art is in explaining why you can adjust the scaling.
It's not actually policy to do this of course. And surprisingly my father claims it's never actually gone wrong.
Obviously the WAAAGH! is behind this.
:lulz:
Quote from: el sjaako on February 15, 2012, 01:57:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
Just wanted to add that this happens a lot. My father sells flowmeters. When a customer is complaining that the flow is not as expected, it's usually easier to "fix" the number on the screen than to convince the customer they calculated the flow wrong, o that the other (more expensive system) is wong or shows something different. The art is in explaining why you can adjust the scaling.
It's not actually policy to do this of course. And surprisingly my father claims it's never actually gone wrong.
Our flow is insanely simple to calculate. Not so simple to verify. So when the flow meter tells us it's not where it's supposed to be, we take the time & verify it. The flow is what it is, it's VERY different than the calculation. This isn't a case of being off by a gallon a minute, here...It's more like an error of 25 gallons per minute, or 50% of the calculated flow.
So, obviously, something is very wrong. Changing the flow meter's display won't change that.
Your only recourse may be a public flogging.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 15, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Our flow is insanely simple to calculate. Not so simple to verify. So when the flow meter tells us it's not where it's supposed to be, we take the time & verify it. The flow is what it is, it's VERY different than the calculation. This isn't a case of being off by a gallon a minute, here...It's more like an error of 25 gallons per minute, or 50% of the calculated flow.
So, obviously, something is very wrong. Changing the flow meter's display won't change that.
I agree that it's a really stupid approach, I was horrified when I found out how often he does it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 15, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: el sjaako on February 15, 2012, 01:57:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
Just wanted to add that this happens a lot. My father sells flowmeters. When a customer is complaining that the flow is not as expected, it's usually easier to "fix" the number on the screen than to convince the customer they calculated the flow wrong, o that the other (more expensive system) is wong or shows something different. The art is in explaining why you can adjust the scaling.
It's not actually policy to do this of course. And surprisingly my father claims it's never actually gone wrong.
Our flow is insanely simple to calculate. Not so simple to verify. So when the flow meter tells us it's not where it's supposed to be, we take the time & verify it. The flow is what it is, it's VERY different than the calculation. This isn't a case of being off by a gallon a minute, here...It's more like an error of 25 gallons per minute, or 50% of the calculated flow.
So, obviously, something is very wrong. Changing the flow meter's display won't change that.
The lax use of standards has entropically become no standards, it's too late? :aaa:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 16, 2012, 03:09:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 15, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: el sjaako on February 15, 2012, 01:57:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 08, 2012, 03:22:13 PM
Okay, so we put in two flow meters on a couple of process loops. The flow meters indicated that the flow in the pipes weren't what we thought they were, and definitely aren't right. We checked the meters and then physically verified the flow further down the process. The meters are accurate, and the flow isn't what it is supposed to be.
Mike the Engineer's response: Adjust the gain on the meters until they say what we expected to see.
:whack:
Here's the funny: Most engineers are like this. Including the ones who keep the power on and the sewers working.
:lulz:
Just wanted to add that this happens a lot. My father sells flowmeters. When a customer is complaining that the flow is not as expected, it's usually easier to "fix" the number on the screen than to convince the customer they calculated the flow wrong, o that the other (more expensive system) is wong or shows something different. The art is in explaining why you can adjust the scaling.
It's not actually policy to do this of course. And surprisingly my father claims it's never actually gone wrong.
Our flow is insanely simple to calculate. Not so simple to verify. So when the flow meter tells us it's not where it's supposed to be, we take the time & verify it. The flow is what it is, it's VERY different than the calculation. This isn't a case of being off by a gallon a minute, here...It's more like an error of 25 gallons per minute, or 50% of the calculated flow.
So, obviously, something is very wrong. Changing the flow meter's display won't change that.
The lax use of standards has entropically become no standards, it's too late? :aaa:
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2012, 03:23:32 AM
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE!
Quote from: LuciferX on February 16, 2012, 03:09:33 AM
The relaxed half-nations interpretation of my personal lubricant use form lax standards of entropic decay which describes my personal relationship with watermelons and pomegranate salad, and there is nothing that anyone can do about it at this point regardless of how many emu farmers picket the capital, eh?
Quote from: Nigel on February 16, 2012, 04:05:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2012, 03:23:32 AM
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE!
Quote from: LuciferX on February 16, 2012, 03:09:33 AM
The relaxed half-nations interpretation of my personal lubricant use form lax standards of entropic decay which describes my personal relationship with watermelons and pomegranate salad, and there is nothing that anyone can do about it at this point regardless of how many emu farmers picket the capital, eh?
:lol:
Quote from: Nigel on February 16, 2012, 04:05:49 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2012, 03:23:32 AM
NIGEL! TRANSLATION, PLEASE!
Quote from: LuciferX on February 16, 2012, 03:09:33 AM
The relaxed half-nations interpretation of my personal lubricant use form lax standards of entropic decay which describes my personal relationship with watermelons and pomegranate salad, and there is nothing that anyone can do about it at this point regardless of how many emu farmers picket the capital, eh?
Nigel owes me another keyboard. :)
:thanks:
It's taken years of diligent study to understand their language.
Seems like a rehash of pop-psychology to me. :lulz:
Quote from: LuciferX on February 16, 2012, 06:43:39 PM
Seems like a rehash of pop-psychology to me. :lulz:
Nigel?
Quote from: Luna on February 16, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
Nigel?
Quote from: LuciferX on February 16, 2012, 06:43:39 PM
I have absolutely no idea what a butterfly's flies would wear if they could tie shoes made of sugar and sheep. :lulz:
Quote from: Nigel on February 16, 2012, 10:29:31 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 16, 2012, 07:43:05 PM
Quote from: Luna on February 16, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: LuciferX on February 16, 2012, 06:43:39 PM
Seems like a rehash of pop-psychology to me. :lulz:
Nigel?
I have this one:
Quote:butthurt:
:lulz:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uuesVbVnqJo/TztIOyBMDwI/AAAAAAAAFng/1g4qe7L2hjM/s1600/Somebody%2BThat%2BI%2BUsed%2BTo%2BKnow.jpg)
:lulz:
http://backdoorbroadcasting.net/archive/audio/2011_11_20/2011_11_20_SlajovZizek_talk.mp3 (http://backdoorbroadcasting.net/archive/audio/2011_11_20/2011_11_20_SlajovZizek_talk.mp3)
I had to...
Mind giving a quick summary of that link 'Ferks? I wont be able to click it for another five hours at the least.
Zizek goes on a rant about politics, violence and human rights after a very a propos segue :lulz:
Title "the silent voice of a new beginning" - safe for work, although the intro may offend esthetic sensibilities :lulz: