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Title: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
So it's gonna be Romney running against Obama, as I predicted.   :lulz:

There's another trend here, you know.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
So it's gonna be Romney running against Obama, as I predicted.   :lulz:

There's another trend here, you know.

What trend is that?
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
So it's gonna be Romney running against Obama, as I predicted.   :lulz:

There's another trend here, you know.

What trend is that?

The GOP running the losers from prior primaries.

Bush beats McCain, wins general election.

McCain beats Romney, loses general election, because of having to toe the line in exchange for "his turn" (in his case, it was because they made him pick Palin instead of Lieberman).

Romney beats Santorum, and has a lot of favors to pay back.

Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
So it's gonna be Romney running against Obama, as I predicted.   :lulz:

There's another trend here, you know.

What trend is that?

The GOP running the losers from prior primaries.

Bush beats McCain, wins general election.

McCain beats Romney, loses general election, because of having to toe the line in exchange for "his turn" (in his case, it was because they made him pick Palin instead of Lieberman).

Romney beats Santorum, and has a lot of favors to pay back.

So, presumably, if Obama wins the general election (which I see as the most likely outcome and have for most of the GOP race), then Santorum will win the primary in 2016?
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
So it's gonna be Romney running against Obama, as I predicted.   :lulz:

There's another trend here, you know.

What trend is that?

The GOP running the losers from prior primaries.

Bush beats McCain, wins general election.

McCain beats Romney, loses general election, because of having to toe the line in exchange for "his turn" (in his case, it was because they made him pick Palin instead of Lieberman).

Romney beats Santorum, and has a lot of favors to pay back.

So, presumably, if Obama wins the general election (which I see as the most likely outcome and have for most of the GOP race), then Santorum will win the primary in 2016?

Obama will win easily.

And yeah, Santorum is young enough.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2012, 07:27:16 PM
Post-2016 could really, really suck. On a level we can't even begin to imagine.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 10, 2012, 07:28:20 PM
I think I might send Santorum some lube as a thank-you.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2012, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on April 10, 2012, 07:28:20 PM
I think I might send Santorum some lube as a thank-you.

:lolchix:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: LMNO on April 10, 2012, 07:29:53 PM
Predictions on a running mate?
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: AFK on April 10, 2012, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
So it's gonna be Romney running against Obama, as I predicted.   :lulz:

There's another trend here, you know.

What trend is that?

The GOP running the losers from prior primaries.

Bush beats McCain, wins general election.

McCain beats Romney, loses general election, because of having to toe the line in exchange for "his turn" (in his case, it was because they made him pick Palin instead of Lieberman).

Romney beats Santorum, and has a lot of favors to pay back.

So, presumably, if Obama wins the general election (which I see as the most likely outcome and have for most of the GOP race), then Santorum will win the primary in 2016?

Nah, they're clearing the decks for Christie in 2016.  I'll bump this thread in 4 years when I'm right. 
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: AFK on April 10, 2012, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2012, 07:29:53 PM
Predictions on a running mate?

The rumor mill puts Ryan at his side right now. 
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on April 10, 2012, 07:31:47 PM
I imagine someone appealing to the tea party so he can further try and build cred with them.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Chairman Risus on April 10, 2012, 08:18:41 PM
Well, that was stupid while lasted.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: LMNO on April 10, 2012, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on April 10, 2012, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 10, 2012, 07:29:53 PM
Predictions on a running mate?

The rumor mill puts Ryan at his side right now.

He should totally go for the "Rent is Too Damn High" guy.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Phox on April 10, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
I think i might get to like elections in which my options are 4 more years of the same or a wasted vote. :lulz:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 08:58:47 PM
hxxp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2870368/posts

:lulz:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 10, 2012, 09:08:59 PM
LOL THEY MAD?
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on April 10, 2012, 09:57:46 PM
Awesome!

:lulz:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 11:11:04 PM
HEAR ME NOW, BELIEVE ME LATER:

Romney will pick Paul Ryan as his VP.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 11, 2012, 12:15:33 AM
Wow.

I want to learn how to do that.  :p
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Golden Applesauce on April 11, 2012, 04:40:16 AM
Who's Paul Ryan?
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Cain on April 11, 2012, 09:15:55 AM
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on April 11, 2012, 04:40:16 AM
Who's Paul Ryan?

Republic congressman with an insane plan to cut pretty much the entire social security net while expanding military spending in order to balance the US budget.

Economists are of the general opinion that Ryan's numbers do not add up, which is pretty bad, considering who is saying it.

He is, however, popular among a certain kind of Beltway commentator (David Brooks, Will Willkinson) because, despite not being able to do maths, he is a "serious" candidate, meaning unemcumbered with embarrassing public outbursts or religious affiliations.

Personally, I think Romney choosing him would be a mistake, and I think even Romney is aware of this.  It would please the pundits and no-one else, and Ryan has plenty of baggage that make him unappealing in addition to his modest political standing. 

Marco Rubio has also been tipped as a potential VP, because TEABAGGER-MENTUM and hopefully bringing in the Latino vote, but Rubio's political skills and influence are vastly overrated, and any half competent political operative could throw the Teabaggers into a frenzy over the inconsistencies in Rubio's past (Birtherism redux).

Romney has two choices, as I see it.  He can either pull a McCain, and have a Palin, or go with someone he trusts.  If he decides to go with the former, his pick is most likely to be Governor Nikki Haley of South Carolina.  There are some issues with her, namely her Sikh background and allegations of affairs, but she was endorsed by Romney, Palin, and some major Tea Party groups.  In other words, she has political backing, owed favours, and credibility that Romney lacks with certain voting blocs.

If Romney decides to not go this route, and I cannot blame him, his pick is most likely to be Governor Rob Portman of Ohio.  Romney and him have a strong working relationship, Portman is not tainted by recent Congressional experience (namely, TARP), and is known to a bag-man for monied interests in Wall Street, who are also sympathetic to Romney (but are of course backing Obama, too).  Portman can also potentially peel off many moderate and Democratic votes, as he's known to be quite the bipartisan type among those who have worked with him on the Hill.

Also, I would not discount Romney entirely.  If the economic recovery slows, as it seems to be, Obama's not in a good place.  Romney is the most highly rated of the GOP front runners when it comes to facing Obama in the polls.  During the earlier stages of the primaries, he had about a 4% gap on Obama in approval polls, and if he can force Obama into making stupid mistakes, or if international conditions worsen, or if a number of other issues go down, he can easily close that gap.  Obama's lost a lot of 18-24 voters in the past few years, who were a critical component of his victory in 2008, and while Romney does not have the best credentials with the GOP, he doesn't cause polarized opposition in the way that, say, Ron Paul does.  Romney is frequently not the first choice for Presidential candidate, but he is a surprisingly popular second choice among a large range of GOP voters, and he's enough of a political chameleon that he can bring votes in from groups who might otherwise be put off by GOP rhetoric and policies, such as women voters and moderates.

A week's a long time in politics: 7 months is nearly an eternity.  Even the best programs and tools cannot predict from this far back who will win.  A small bet on either candidate would probably not be a bad idea.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention that briefly before vanishing again.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: AFK on April 11, 2012, 10:57:05 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2012, 11:11:04 PM
HEAR ME NOW, BELIEVE ME LATER:

Romney will pick Paul Ryan as his VP.

Well, this has pretty much been the talk since it was clear Romney was going to be the nominee. 

Plus, it gives Ryan the chance to bloat his ego by running his GOP vision of doing things against Obama. 
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2012, 01:33:55 PM
Cain, everything you say makes sense.

Which is why the GOP most likely will not do it.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Phox on April 11, 2012, 01:42:14 PM
I vote Nikki Haley as governor of my pance.  :fap:


In all seriousness though, I appreciate your analysis Cain. I will be most interested in seeing what happens within the GOP in the coming months.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: East Coast Hustle on April 11, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
She's not governing MY pance. Seriously, I'd be terrified of being crushed under the weight of her gargantuan chin.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Phox on April 11, 2012, 05:07:08 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on April 11, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
She's not governing MY pance. Seriously, I'd be terrified of being crushed under the weight of her gargantuan chin.
:lulz:

The danger's part of the fun, though.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Doktor Howl on April 11, 2012, 05:08:30 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on April 11, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
She's not governing MY pance. Seriously, I'd be terrified of being crushed under the weight of her gargantuan chin.

And there go my nipples again.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Deepthroat Chopra on April 12, 2012, 12:54:31 AM
Kind of a funny article re: Santorum, using a mix of analogies, such as -

Rick Santorum's campaign for President was the political equivalent of drunk sex that goes on to the point of chafing in spite of the fact that neither party is capable of orgasm.
He was never going to get the nomination. Party establishment wasn't wet for him, and at times, Rick seemed like he was running for America Pope instead of President, especially when he said anti-constitutional things like how the Establishment Clause made him want to barf all over or that Barack Obama was a snob for suggesting that kids go to college. But he kept jackhammering away anyway.



http://jezebel.com/5900772/rick-santorums-campaign-was-so-unbelievably-bad

Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Mangrove on April 12, 2012, 07:54:29 PM
Yesterday I caught part of a local talkshow where the flamboyantly gay host (Scott Haney) looks at the camera with a smirk & a twinkle in his eye and says:

"Santorum's OUT."

:lol:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Bruno on April 12, 2012, 08:56:35 PM
One of they guys I know from elementary school and the small town church I went to as a child is a friend on Facebook. He was bemoaning Santorum's dropping out, claiming little Ricky was the "most Christ-like" person running. He also expressed how he was not thrilled with voting for a Mormon and, of course, Obama is teh debbil.

This is the best election year evar!  :whack:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Mangrove on April 12, 2012, 09:19:43 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 12, 2012, 08:56:35 PM
One of they guys I know from elementary school and the small town church I went to as a child is a friend on Facebook. He was bemoaning Santorum's dropping out, claiming little Ricky was the "most Christ-like" person running. He also expressed how he was not thrilled with voting for a Mormon and, of course, Obama is teh debbil.

This is the best election year evar!  :whack:

:walken:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Bruno on April 13, 2012, 10:05:37 AM
Yeah. I stopped being friends with him when we were, like, 10-11 years old. He was a real shit even back then. He hasn't gotten any better.

Also, he's a college professor now.  :?
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Cain on April 17, 2012, 02:38:56 PM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/153902/Romney-Obama-Tight-Race-Gallup-Daily-Tracking-Begins.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Politics%20-%20USA

Oh look, party bases have rallied around Romney and Obama both.  In exactly the same percentage breakdowns, no less.  And Romney is leading by six points among Independents.

But remember, Rmoney is a friend of Wall Street who wears magic underwear, while Obama is a proletarian, rationalist Man of The People.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 18, 2012, 02:53:34 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on April 12, 2012, 07:54:29 PM
Yesterday I caught part of a local talkshow where the flamboyantly gay host (Scott Haney) looks at the camera with a smirk & a twinkle in his eye and says:

"Santorum's OUT."

:lol:

Somebody needs to youtube that.  :lol:
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Deepthroat Chopra on April 18, 2012, 03:01:34 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 12, 2012, 08:56:35 PM
One of they guys I know from elementary school and the small town church I went to as a child is a friend on Facebook. He was bemoaning Santorum's dropping out, claiming little Ricky was the "most Christ-like" person running. He also expressed how he was not thrilled with voting for a Mormon and, of course, Obama is teh debbil.

This is the best election year evar!  :whack:

Christ-like? I just can't...go...on...

I think I've still got an image of "Christ" as someone who tried to do the right thing by people. Then again, he did kill a fig tree with the mere power of suggestion because it lacked fruit. so, Christ-like, if a fig tree is a metaphor for gays, women, and migrants.
Title: Re: Santorum just announced that he's "suspending his campaign".
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on April 18, 2012, 04:12:14 AM
Quote from: Emo Howard on April 12, 2012, 08:56:35 PM
One of they guys I know from elementary school and the small town church I went to as a child is a friend on Facebook. He was bemoaning Santorum's dropping out, claiming little Ricky was the "most Christ-like" person running. He also expressed how he was not thrilled with voting for a Mormon and, of course, Obama is teh debbil.

This is the best election year evar!  :whack:

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