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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: BabylonHoruv on August 06, 2012, 05:12:38 PM

Title: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: BabylonHoruv on August 06, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
So in the sex Ed thread Cain posted this.

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One of the most interesting areas of feminist thinking, to me, is how patriarchical societies constrain men as well as they do women, and I strongly suspect if there was a greater focus on this, it would get a lot of guys who might otherwise be not so interested in feminism thinking about how such things impact on them personally.

This is something that I think deserves its own thread.  I remember seeing some discussion of it in another thread and every time someone came up with a way that they felt men were constrained by society it was shot down as a myth.  This is absolutely not to deny the existence of male privilege, it is to examine the ways in which our current sexist society keeps men down, to open feminism up so  that it is easier to see that it is not just a movement for women.

One that I have noticed is the divide as far as being the breadwinner versus being the caretaker in a household.  Men are expected to be the breadwinner, women the caretaker, if the woman is the sole wage earner and her husband stays home to take care of the kids and house people view them both as aberrant and not ok.  This is not really an issue for the working class, usually, since both parents generally have to work just to keep the household afloat. 
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Johnny on August 06, 2012, 11:01:02 PM

I think rather than framing this within privilege theory ("keeping men down") it is more proper to frame it within gender-role stereotypes ideas.

Because in the context of a patriarchy, women ultimately lose more than men. Men might be excluded from some jobs, but that is just gender-role coming into play and that is by a great margin the least of  harms.


Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 06, 2012, 11:27:35 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 06, 2012, 11:01:02 PM

I think rather than framing this within privilege theory ("keeping men down") it is more proper to frame it within gender-role stereotypes ideas.

Because in the context of a patriarchy, women ultimately lose more than men. Men might be excluded from some jobs, but that is just gender-role coming into play and that is by a great margin the least of  harms.




Even MOAR surprising is sometimes Babs here likes to take a popular topic that people wantto talk about because he knows that people are pissed off about his mere existence, let alone him talking about things that are interesting. The surprising part is someone always responds.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Johnny on August 07, 2012, 01:05:56 AM

And here you are, too.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 07, 2012, 01:15:24 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 07, 2012, 01:05:56 AM

And here you are, too.

Well, that's because I like you, Joh'Nyx, and I wouldn't want you to be all alone.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Dark Monk on August 07, 2012, 01:20:00 AM
I'm always here to keep company as well ^.^
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Johnny on August 07, 2012, 01:21:06 AM
Quote from: Just Alty, Actually. on August 07, 2012, 01:15:24 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 07, 2012, 01:05:56 AM

And here you are, too.

Well, that's because I like you, Joh'Nyx, and I wouldn't want you to be all alone.

I like you too, and i like being liked  :fnord:
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 07, 2012, 01:23:00 AM
Aww, this thread has a happy ending after all.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 07, 2012, 01:23:53 AM
Jesus fucking christ, you guys.

Allow me to remind you that by posting ITT, you are essentially consenting to be part of BH's disgusting fantasy life. And it's not like it's a subject that doesn't already have an active and recent thread. Fuck.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 07, 2012, 01:28:23 AM
Uh, yeah, that was kind of the theme of all posts following the first two.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 07, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
I just noticed that you posted the phrase "happy ending" ITT.

You're a terrible terrible person, Alty.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Johnny on August 07, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
I know hes been a dick to some people, but havent we all?

Why do you guys want to shun him? (other than his fantasies)

I really want to know, because in comparision as far as ive seen Yatto was/is way worse and doesnt get that much shit.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 07, 2012, 01:45:05 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on August 07, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
I just noticed that you posted the phrase "happy ending" ITT.

You're a terrible terrible person, Alty.

:thisguy:
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 07, 2012, 01:46:09 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 07, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
I know hes been a dick to some people, but havent we all?

Why do you guys want to shun him? (other than his fantasies)

I really want to know, because in comparision as far as ive seen Yatto was/is way worse and doesnt get that much shit.

He's openly admitted that he gets his kicks from receiving negative attention, including (and seemingly especially) at PD. AFAIC, his murderporn fantasies are reason enough (sure, he's entitled to them as long as he doesn't act on them but it doesn't mean I have to treat him like a real human being) but the fact that he's using posters at PD to facilitate some sort of kink is pretty squicky. Squicky enough that I struggle with the issue of whether or not it would justify banning him on the grounds that he's exploiting posters here for his own sexual gratification without their consent. I mean, that's REALLY fucked up. And it's not like he adds anything valuable to the dialogue.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 07, 2012, 01:51:43 AM
He also, in an effort to defend his stupid fucking friend, and lash out, accused Freeky of making excuses for pedophiles, among a litany of unbearable qualities others could mention. I admit I am somewhat biased because Freeky is a really good friend.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Johnny on August 07, 2012, 01:55:12 AM

Fine, ill join the pledge if hes so disturbing to the community.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 07, 2012, 02:04:10 AM
I'm not telling you what to do or not do, just making sure you understand what it entails.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 05:27:11 AM
That said I find this topic amusing since its a lot of what my local occupy talks about, even if the op is tom cruises inbreed cousin
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 05:39:15 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 07, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
I really want to know, because in comparision as far as ive seen Yatto was/is way worse and doesnt get that much shit.

Because my idiotacy is at least funny?
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: Just Alty, Actually. on August 07, 2012, 01:51:43 AM
He also, in an effort to defend his stupid fucking friend, and lash out, accused Freeky of making excuses for pedophiles, among a litany of unbearable qualities others could mention. I admit I am somewhat biased because Freeky is a really good friend.

Not precisely accurate.

When I piss Babylon off, he goes after women that I talk to, instead of me.  This has happened to Freaky, Stella (over at EB&G), and at least one other.  He's too much of a fucking knobend to run it back at me, but he has no problem hounding women.  Especially women who act "uppity" towards him.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Placid Dingo on August 07, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on August 07, 2012, 01:46:09 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 07, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
I know hes been a dick to some people, but havent we all?

Why do you guys want to shun him? (other than his fantasies)

I really want to know, because in comparision as far as ive seen Yatto was/is way worse and doesnt get that much shit.

He's openly admitted that he gets his kicks from receiving negative attention, including (and seemingly especially) at PD. AFAIC, his murderporn fantasies are reason enough (sure, he's entitled to them as long as he doesn't act on them but it doesn't mean I have to treat him like a real human being) but the fact that he's using posters at PD to facilitate some sort of kink is pretty squicky. Squicky enough that I struggle with the issue of whether or not it would justify banning him on the grounds that he's exploiting posters here for his own sexual gratification without their consent. I mean, that's REALLY fucked up. And it's not like he adds anything valuable to the dialogue.

I have not seen this myself. It would upset me were it to be the case, but I cannot say I've seen him say anything to that effect.

I tend to feel the whole BH vs PD thing a bit over the top. That said, I've never been affected by it myself. I don't particualy like it, but I don't have a strong enough view that I'm going to push for people to change what they do (because that kind of thing is traditionally, really effective) .
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on August 07, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
I have not seen this myself. It would upset me were it to be the case, but I cannot say I've seen him say anything to that effect.

He's said it out loud, to me.

Quote from: Placid Dingo on August 07, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
I tend to feel the whole BH vs PD thing a bit over the top.

Well, of course.  He's not going after Quality People.  Also, given that you wanted to include Uncle BadTouch in your interview thing, I can see why BH wouldn't seem so offensive.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Infowars Mark Dice claims gonzo made snuff films :fnord:
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:14:30 PM
Infowars is claiming gonzo made snuff films :fnord:

HST?

Rubbish.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:18:45 PM
http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/mark-dice-hunter-s-thompson-produced-child-porn-snuff-films/
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 07, 2012, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on August 07, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on August 07, 2012, 01:46:09 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 07, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
I know hes been a dick to some people, but havent we all?

Why do you guys want to shun him? (other than his fantasies)

I really want to know, because in comparision as far as ive seen Yatto was/is way worse and doesnt get that much shit.

He's openly admitted that he gets his kicks from receiving negative attention, including (and seemingly especially) at PD. AFAIC, his murderporn fantasies are reason enough (sure, he's entitled to them as long as he doesn't act on them but it doesn't mean I have to treat him like a real human being) but the fact that he's using posters at PD to facilitate some sort of kink is pretty squicky. Squicky enough that I struggle with the issue of whether or not it would justify banning him on the grounds that he's exploiting posters here for his own sexual gratification without their consent. I mean, that's REALLY fucked up. And it's not like he adds anything valuable to the dialogue.

I have not seen this myself. It would upset me were it to be the case, but I cannot say I've seen him say anything to that effect.

I tend to feel the whole BH vs PD thing a bit over the top. That said, I've never been affected by it myself. I don't particualy like it, but I don't have a strong enough view that I'm going to push for people to change what they do (because that kind of thing is traditionally, really effective) .


Meh. I rarely engage him or post in his threads. I hate the guy on a personal level, which is uncommon for me on the internet, and yet I avoid him as opposed to shitting on him every time I feel like it. ECH hasn't banned him, there have been a few shit-fests, largely of his own making, but I don't understand what you mean by "over the top".
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 08:19:37 PM
Who the fuck is Mark Dice?

Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2012, 08:25:37 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:18:45 PM
http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/mark-dice-hunter-s-thompson-produced-child-porn-snuff-films/

So, how do you rate a fundamentalist Christian crackpot conspiracy theorist's credibility?  :lulz:

Wait wait, I've got another one for you: http://s6.zetaboards.com/Free_Thinkers/index/
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:25:42 PM
He's some 911 tinfoiler who dabbles in other conspiracies to sell books
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
Rating.. somewhere between WBC and foxnews

Ps who said, I beLIEve what I read, isn't that a discordian taboo?
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 08:31:59 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:30:05 PM
Rating.. somewhere between WBC and foxnews

Ps who said, I beLIEve what I read, isn't that a discordian taboo?

So why bring it up, other than to drag a man's name through the mud?
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 07, 2012, 08:34:31 PM
Squick thread: no hope.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Its related to the subject ITT?
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 08:37:16 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Its related to the subject ITT?

Not that I can see.  It's a vicious smear, which you chose to perpetuate for no apparent reason, except perhaps to side with a nasty creationist conspiracy theorist.

Well done.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2012, 08:53:04 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Its related to the subject ITT?

No. It's not.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Now now, I didn't side with him. Merely changing the subject... since the claim was made, id like to know he's full of shit, without just discreditting it because of the source. And given BH's sick hobby, its not really without reason
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 08:54:20 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Now now, I didn't side with him. Merely changing the subject... since the claim was made, id like to know he's full of shit, without just discreditting it because of the source. And given BH's sick hobby, its not really without reason

Bullshit.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2012, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Now now, I didn't side with him. Merely changing the subject... since the claim was made, id like to know he's full of shit, without just discreditting it because of the source. And given BH's sick hobby, its not really without reason

I would think that the complete lack of any evidence whatsoever would probably be enough to discredit him.

or  :?
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 10:53:16 PM

Other times I witnessed his atavistic side. Despite the rumors that followed me home when I left, he never held a gun to my head or laid a finger on me, but that's not to say he didn't throw a tantrum or two. Paranoid, he would lock everyone out of his cabin for hours at a time, intermittently setting off his alarm and firing guns into the air. One time I watched him beat his car because his cigarettes were locked inside, and another time he threw me out of the house for refusing to watch a snuff film. And he was hell on his new kitten, Hugo, especially when he felt I was paying it too much attention. He would snatch Hugo up, smudge his pink nose in cocaine, and send him darting across the kitchen floor. If I would get up from our work to shut the front door to keep the cat from fleeing outside, he would berate me with a round of screaming, furiously yelling at the top of his lungs that would have addled me if not for my own experience in a fit-throwing family.

http://www.pw.org/content/memory_hunter_s_thompson_postcard_louisville_kentucky
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Salty on August 07, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
I put forward the idea that there isn't any way Yatto can make this thread worse than it was when the OP hit New Post. Or before that even. To make this thread worse Yatto would have to go back in time.

Though it is interesting to watch him try.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 11:48:41 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 10:53:16 PM

Other times I witnessed his atavistic side. Despite the rumors that followed me home when I left, he never held a gun to my head or laid a finger on me, but that's not to say he didn't throw a tantrum or two. Paranoid, he would lock everyone out of his cabin for hours at a time, intermittently setting off his alarm and firing guns into the air. One time I watched him beat his car because his cigarettes were locked inside, and another time he threw me out of the house for refusing to watch a snuff film. And he was hell on his new kitten, Hugo, especially when he felt I was paying it too much attention. He would snatch Hugo up, smudge his pink nose in cocaine, and send him darting across the kitchen floor. If I would get up from our work to shut the front door to keep the cat from fleeing outside, he would berate me with a round of screaming, furiously yelling at the top of his lungs that would have addled me if not for my own experience in a fit-throwing family.

http://www.pw.org/content/memory_hunter_s_thompson_postcard_louisville_kentucky

Yeah, and he was a known wife-beater, too, in his younger days.

HOW DOES ANY OF THE ABOVE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHILD PORN OR SNUFF PORN, YOU FUCKED UP LITTLE MONKEY PROBLEM?

Goddammit, you're a fucking basket case, Yatto.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 11:49:42 PM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 07, 2012, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 07, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
Now now, I didn't side with him. Merely changing the subject... since the claim was made, id like to know he's full of shit, without just discreditting it because of the source. And given BH's sick hobby, its not really without reason

I would think that the complete lack of any evidence whatsoever would probably be enough to discredit him.

or  :?

Not the point.

Yatto's being Yatto, for reasons which I think even he doesn't understand.

Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2012, 11:51:23 PM
Quote from: Alty on August 07, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
I put forward the idea that there isn't any way Yatto can make this thread worse than it was when the OP hit New Post. Or before that even. To make this thread worse Yatto would have to go back in time.

Though it is interesting to watch him try.

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure we banned time travel.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2012, 11:52:17 PM
And I forgot that I banned ever listening to a word Yatto says.

Dumb, Roger, dumb.  When will I ever learn? 
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Juana on August 08, 2012, 12:08:40 AM
Pigeons, Rog.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 08, 2012, 12:17:10 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on August 08, 2012, 12:08:40 AM
Pigeons, Rog.

Yes, yes indeed.

It's obvious that he did that just to start shit.  I really should pay more attention.  I mean, less attention.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: the last yatto on August 08, 2012, 12:50:22 AM
I can copypasta moar...
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 08, 2012, 12:56:04 AM
Quote from: the last yatto on August 08, 2012, 12:50:22 AM
I can copypasta moar...

Whatever turns you on, Yatto, you fucked up little man.   :lulz:

It's not like I'll ever be reading anything you say, or taking you seriously ever again, right?

:winner:
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: MMMW on August 08, 2012, 08:36:06 AM
Look at this poor victim of Patriarchy.
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/417544_4331224836586_1281131528_n.jpg)
He must have the patience of a Saint.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Faust on August 08, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
As long as it gets you from A to B that's all you need. You should never judge a person on the quality of their car.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: BabylonHoruv on August 08, 2012, 09:53:36 AM
Quote from: Alty on August 07, 2012, 01:51:43 AM
He also, in an effort to defend his stupid fucking friend, and lash out, accused Freeky of making excuses for pedophiles, among a litany of unbearable qualities others could mention. I admit I am somewhat biased because Freeky is a really good friend.

defended a pedophile, and she did, she said he seemed like a decent person.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: BabylonHoruv on August 08, 2012, 09:57:59 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on August 07, 2012, 01:23:53 AM
Jesus fucking christ, you guys.

Allow me to remind you that by posting ITT, you are essentially consenting to be part of BH's disgusting fantasy life. And it's not like it's a subject that doesn't already have an active and recent thread. Fuck.

It doesn't,  there's several good active threads about feminism in general, none so far that have had anything about how the current system hurts men, which is a truth that is maintained, but not demonstrated.  Not saying it isn't true, but seeing how would be a good thing.

I do indeed thrive on negative attention, here more than many places just because you guys are so damn good at it,  that doesn't mean everything I post is an attempt to get it.  And no,  I don't fantasize about any of you (except for Roger, but don't we all?)
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 08, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 08, 2012, 09:57:59 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on August 07, 2012, 01:23:53 AM
Jesus fucking christ, you guys.

Allow me to remind you that by posting ITT, you are essentially consenting to be part of BH's disgusting fantasy life. And it's not like it's a subject that doesn't already have an active and recent thread. Fuck.

It doesn't,  there's several good active threads about feminism in general, none so far that have had anything about how the current system hurts men, which is a truth that is maintained, but not demonstrated.  Not saying it isn't true, but seeing how would be a good thing.

I do indeed thrive on negative attention, here more than many places just because you guys are so damn good at it,  that doesn't mean everything I post is an attempt to get it.  And no,  I don't fantasize about any of you (except for Roger, but don't we all?)

At what point do you think this becomes funny?

Enough is enough.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
Jesus fucking god, I wish that loathesome submammalian piece of shit would do something to get himself banned. FFS.

He's not just icky, he's also socially stunted in terms of interpreting simple interactions, and flat-out stupid, from thinking he was "pre-rich" because his screenwriter wife was about to hit the bigtime, to having severely below-average reading comprehension skills. He contributes absolutely nothing to the board, or to existence itself.

Oh, and malicious, as evidenced by insisting on spreading the story that Freeky "defended a pedophile". Since apparently he doesn't even have the brains to look the word "defended" up in the dictionary.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:25:32 PM
I'm not really the kind of person to datamine someone's personal information for the purposes of arranging a series of unfortunate misunderstandings with the authorities, but if I was, I would be sorely tempted to do so in this case.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 08, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
Oh, and malicious, as evidenced by insisting on spreading the story that Freeky "defended a pedophile". Since apparently he doesn't even have the brains to look the word "defended" up in the dictionary.

WHAT??? Did I MISS this or have I REPRESSED it somehow?  :x :x :x
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:41:14 PM
Lest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.

Does anyone else, after reading this, want to take the "You people are overreacting" angle?

There's more. There's LOTS more. But that right there is more than enough for me to be overwhelmed by a powerful revulsion whenever I see his name in a thread.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 08, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
Oh, and malicious, as evidenced by insisting on spreading the story that Freeky "defended a pedophile". Since apparently he doesn't even have the brains to look the word "defended" up in the dictionary.

WHAT??? Did I MISS this or have I REPRESSED it somehow?  :x :x :x

It might have been on that shit board that he and Wyldkat ran for a minute.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:43:13 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 08, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
Oh, and malicious, as evidenced by insisting on spreading the story that Freeky "defended a pedophile". Since apparently he doesn't even have the brains to look the word "defended" up in the dictionary.

WHAT??? Did I MISS this or have I REPRESSED it somehow?  :x :x :x

But here, Alty referenced it upthread a bit and BH reiterated it:

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 08, 2012, 09:53:36 AM
Quote from: Alty on August 07, 2012, 01:51:43 AM
He also, in an effort to defend his stupid fucking friend, and lash out, accused Freeky of making excuses for pedophiles, among a litany of unbearable qualities others could mention. I admit I am somewhat biased because Freeky is a really good friend.

defended a pedophile, and she did, she said he seemed like a decent person.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
If anyone feels some strange, uncontrollable urge to actually reply to this utter piece of shit in any thread, may I suggest that instead of typing out a response, which he lacks the comprehension skills to properly parse anyway, just copy & paste this:

QuoteLest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Freeky on August 08, 2012, 11:39:03 PM
I really wish this thread would go away, because the name keeps popping up in my Unread Topics list.  Urgh, uncomfortable.

And, I agree with the people who are "going overboard."  Best thing for a case of the BHs is to ignore him completely, and hope he gets bored and goes away.  There is nothing for him here, except to make people uncomfortable, even if all he's doing is reading a thread.  Good threads die because BH posts in them, and no one wants to go in there ever again. 

He exudes PREDATOR, even if he may not have ever done anything, and I really wish he would just leave.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 09, 2012, 12:04:28 AM
I used to constantly kick him from IRC waaay back when because he was creepy and I found it funny.

This was before his paraphilia stuff came up, so I "PLEDGED" the asshole pretty much.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 09, 2012, 02:40:30 AM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
If anyone feels some strange, uncontrollable urge to actually reply to this utter piece of shit in any thread, may I suggest that instead of typing out a response, which he lacks the comprehension skills to properly parse anyway, just copy & paste this:

QuoteLest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.

Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
If anyone feels some strange, uncontrollable urge to actually reply to this utter piece of shit in any thread, may I suggest that instead of typing out a response, which he lacks the comprehension skills to properly parse anyway, just copy & paste this:

QuoteLest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.

Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
If anyone feels some strange, uncontrollable urge to actually reply to this utter piece of shit in any thread, may I suggest that instead of typing out a response, which he lacks the comprehension skills to properly parse anyway, just copy & paste this:

QuoteLest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.
Title: Re: Patriarchy and how it hurts men
Post by: Pope Pixie Pickle on August 09, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 09, 2012, 02:40:30 AM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
If anyone feels some strange, uncontrollable urge to actually reply to this utter piece of shit in any thread, may I suggest that instead of typing out a response, which he lacks the comprehension skills to properly parse anyway, just copy & paste this:

QuoteLest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.

Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
If anyone feels some strange, uncontrollable urge to actually reply to this utter piece of shit in any thread, may I suggest that instead of typing out a response, which he lacks the comprehension skills to properly parse anyway, just copy & paste this:

QuoteLest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.

Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
If anyone feels some strange, uncontrollable urge to actually reply to this utter piece of shit in any thread, may I suggest that instead of typing out a response, which he lacks the comprehension skills to properly parse anyway, just copy & paste this:

QuoteLest anyone forget, this disgusting puddle of dog vomit has carefully cultured a fetish about raping women while torturing and murdering them. Far from being ashamed of this, he wrote a snuff porn novel about men torturing, raping, and killing women, and bragged about it here, even posting a link to it. To make it even more chilling, not long after that he commented that if his daughter (who I think is what, 11?) was ever raped, he hoped "they would kill her too, so she wouldn't have to live with it".

In the course of making excuses for continuing to foster and cultivate his sick fetish instead of getting therapy for it, he tried to distract attention from himself by accusing Freeky of "defending" a pedophile, when she tried to point out the difference between someone she had once met who was dealing responsibly with a fucked-up sexual philia, ie. getting help, letting people know, avoiding any reminders of it, and staying the hell away from kids, and dealing antisocially with one, ie. seeking it out, joining online communities, and writing pornographic novels about it.

THIS!