Okay, you may have noticed that in some threads, I will ride an idea around for about 20 pages, while you jackasses try to explain to me why I'm obviously wrong. You're usually right about me being wrong, and it's not that I'm digging in my heels, though I know it may look like that a lot of the time.
Thing is, I'm not stupid, but I am a little dense. Things have to be bashed into my head for them to take. Once they DO take, though, I change my worldview to accept the new information, IF I can be convinced by your arguments that I am in fact operating on bad signal.
Nigel, practically alone among PD monsters, has broken my heart, shattered my confidence and shaken my most fervently held beliefs about myself, MANY TIMES, just using WORDS SHE TYPED ON THE
INTERNET. This is the reason I extend so much credibility towards her. Garbo is much the same.
Some of you may not LIKE having your heart, confidence, and beliefs shaken, IF they can be shaken at all. Certainly it's not a PLEASANT experience. But, oddly enough, I don't actually feel at all weakened by it. JUST THE OPPOSITE! Because, a couple of times, I had to admit that Nigel or Garbo was right and that I was wrong, I have had to develop the brain muscles and the glands to ADMIT TO MYSELF AND IN PUBLIC THAT I WAS WRONG. Another way to say that is I became strong enough to CHANGE MY MIND so that I can see the world the way it IS, not The World As Roger Would Like To See It.
Maybe it's just Stockholm Syndrome but they remain two of my heroes even as they're berating me and boxing my ears. I only wish I was smart enough to maybe one day put the screws to their ideas the way they've mangled mine, JUST TO RETURN THE FAVOR.
So, yeah, when I seem to be arguing an idea into the ground, it's not because I'm trying to salvage bad information or save face or any stupid shit like that, it's because I want to be SURE about the situation from all possible angles, before I take the incredibly difficult step of, you know, changing my mind. I understand that this may cause frustration. Please bear with me. Or kill me.
This isn't an excuse, it's more an explanation of shit that's come up recently. So everybody shut up.
Aw! :oops: :)
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.
This place is awesome for that kind of thing. I can't even list all of the people who made me go "Oh wait, that's right...wow, I had it all fucked up." Nigel, Roger, Cain, LMNO, I don't know how many others.
Outta here before I ruin this place with warm fuzzies and shit. :lol: But thanks, everybody.
^^^ That. I've had more than a few, "Oh, wow, that was wrong" moments here. For which I'm grateful.
Also, haha, you're pretty awesome, too, Rog. :D
Yeah, this place has smacked me in the back of the head more times than I can count.
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.
This.
You're like Discordian Jesus, getting smacked publicly so I can learn by observation and not repeat the same mistake.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 17, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
Yeah, this place has smacked me in the back of the head more times than I can count.
PD.com: antidote to Cosmic Shmuckery.
Don't we all need a smack upside the head every so often?
Quote from: Net on August 18, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.
This.
You're like Discordian Jesus, getting smacked publicly so I can learn by observation and not repeat the same mistake.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 17, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
Yeah, this place has smacked me in the back of the head more times than I can count.
PD.com: antidote to Cosmic Shmuckery.
Don't we all need a smack upside the head every so often?
Exactly!
Quote from: Net on August 18, 2012, 12:02:16 AM
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.
This.
You're like Discordian Jesus, getting smacked publicly so I can learn by observation and not repeat the same mistake.
HA! I am now Prototype Jesus!
Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 17, 2012, 05:15:17 PM
Aw! :oops: :)
You remain one of my personal heroes, Roger, for being completely unafraid to shout your guts out about something you think is important, AND simultaneously, your ability to stand up and shout it out when you were wrong and changed your mind about something.
One of the many downsides (benefits?) of the "SHOVE YOUR HEAD IN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS" mentality is that you frequently pull back a stump.
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate. Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate. Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.
Well since he's 'cis' I'd have a difficult time turning him on. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 18, 2012, 02:14:16 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate. Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.
Well since he's 'cis' I'd have a difficult time turning him on. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
You might be surprised. When I'm on benzos & bourbon, I get turned on by a light breeze.
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate. Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.
When I am ancient and on life support, I am kind of counting on you to do exactly that, Cain.
Deal, but at least one time beforehand I'll just unplug the monitor, to make the doctors freak out.
Quote from: Prototype Jesus on August 18, 2012, 02:16:17 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate. Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.
When I am ancient and on life support, I am kind of counting on you to do exactly that, Cain.
We can wire your life support up to PD.com... then we can automate it so keywords like anarchist, madjickal, drugs etc shut it down and good rants or pineal noobs kick it back on :lulz:
Or we can just all take turns pushing the button at random times.
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:18:36 AM
Deal, but at least one time beforehand I'll just unplug the monitor, to make the doctors freak out.
Given my plans for my behavior at that point, they'll freak out when you plug it back in.
I'm sort of looking forward to incontinence, for example.
Quote from: Prototype Jesus on August 18, 2012, 02:49:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:18:36 AM
Deal, but at least one time beforehand I'll just unplug the monitor, to make the doctors freak out.
Given my plans for my behavior at that point, they'll freak out when you plug it back in.
I'm sort of looking forward to incontinence, for example.
Well from a HOLY MAN that would just be surprise baptism, right?
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 18, 2012, 03:32:56 AM
Quote from: Prototype Jesus on August 18, 2012, 02:49:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:18:36 AM
Deal, but at least one time beforehand I'll just unplug the monitor, to make the doctors freak out.
Given my plans for my behavior at that point, they'll freak out when you plug it back in.
I'm sort of looking forward to incontinence, for example.
Well from a HOLY MAN that would just be surprise baptism, right?
If I can learn to aim.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 18, 2012, 03:32:56 AM
Quote from: Prototype Jesus on August 18, 2012, 02:49:21 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:18:36 AM
Deal, but at least one time beforehand I'll just unplug the monitor, to make the doctors freak out.
Given my plans for my behavior at that point, they'll freak out when you plug it back in.
I'm sort of looking forward to incontinence, for example.
Well from a HOLY MAN that would just be surprise baptism, right?
I'm never going to be able to look at a family baptism the same way again.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 18, 2012, 02:18:49 AM
Quote from: Prototype Jesus on August 18, 2012, 02:16:17 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 18, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
I thought "smacking Roger upside the head every so often" was the equivalent of "have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Although, amazingly, smacking computers has a remarkable success rate. Based on this logic, I suggest turning the Roger off and back on again should you have future problems.
When I am ancient and on life support, I am kind of counting on you to do exactly that, Cain.
We can wire your life support up to PD.com... then we can automate it so keywords like anarchist, madjickal, drugs etc shut it down and good rants or pineal noobs kick it back on :lulz:
Or we can just all take turns pushing the button at random times.
Dibs on the button for the drug IV controls. :)
:lulz:
you actually are roger then? Damn.
I need to get a better phone.
Quote from: Nephew Hiroshima on August 19, 2012, 02:01:39 AM
:lulz:
you actually are roger then? Damn.
I need to get a better phone.
:lol:
Id apologize but i think it was probably too entertaining for me to have no clue.
Eh. I apologize anyway. Sorry roger.
Quote from: Nephew Hiroshima on August 19, 2012, 02:44:37 AM
Eh. I apologize anyway. Sorry roger.
What? No, it's all good. :lol:
Quote from: Nephew Hiroshima on August 19, 2012, 02:01:39 AM
:lulz:
you actually are roger then? Damn.
I need to get a better phone.
The post that said "I'm home now, I can see avatars" was a bluff? :lulz:
I thought it was the BEST THREAD EVAH.
No i was at a level of drunkenness that i took what cain had previously said at his word. Double avatars were done before.
I think that everything I said in the OP was a huge fucking mistake.
I've sort of gotten to the point where I can just about sense when I'm going to be proven horribly wrong, at which point I back off and wait to see what happens. Occasionally, shit just won't add up, and I'll keep pushing. But more often than not these days, I'll get schooled, and I'll have to change my mind. It cuts down on the hooting and hollering, that way.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2012, 10:36:15 PM
I think that everything I said in the OP was a huge fucking mistake.
Boy, it's a good thing my friends are all wrong about me having mood swings and all. :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 20, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
I've sort of gotten to the point where I can just about sense when I'm going to be proven horribly wrong, at which point I back off and wait to see what happens. Occasionally, shit just won't add up, and I'll keep pushing. But more often than not these days, I'll get schooled, and I'll have to change my mind. It cuts down on the hooting and hollering, that way.
But that's the fun part.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2012, 10:36:15 PM
I think that everything I said in the OP was a huge fucking mistake.
Could you be more specific?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOz1uSLXMDM
PD needs a healthy dose of this wonderful argument. Clear, concise, and has a lot of great advice about how to handle arguments once you've hit your own personal crush depth.