What is this I don't even
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/29/arkansas_town_enacts_martial_law/
QuoteFollowing a rise in violent crime in Paragould, an Arkansas town of around 26,000 residents, the mayor and police chief announced that starting this month police in SWAT gear carrying AR-15s would patrol the streets.
"If you're out walking, we're going to stop you, ask why you're out walking, and check for your ID," police chief Todd Stovall told a December town hall meeting. As if to render the implementation of a visible police state more palatable, Stovall assured residents that police stops would not be based on any profiling: "We're going to do it to everybody," he said.
QuoteAccording to local news reports, the police department canceled two subsequent town hall meetings to discuss the heavy handed policing plan. Following outrage from Paragould residents, the police cited "public safety concerns" to cancel the meetings. Meanwhile, Paragould's mayor has reportedly dialed back his rhetoric around the amped up policing proposal and, according to the Arkansas Times, the mayor said patrolling police would not "constantly" be carrying assault rifles. Although announced to begin in January, no SWAT patrols have begun in Paragould yet.
So, they won't be constantly carrying AR-15's. They'll just be armed men in combat armour, asking for your papers, citizen. Nothing to worry about.
QuoteWhat seems to be missing from the corporate media reports, following Stovall's inflammatory remarks, is a recent article in a local newspaper about Stovall's use of volunteers to strengthen the number of "crime fighters" in Paragould. Apparently, the Reserve Unit, includes Stovall's brother who is allegedly building a database on Paragould citizens who have NOT committed a crime. Stovall has allegedly authorized his own brother to build the database on Paragould citizens, without direct oversight from a trained member of the Police Department and most importantly, without obtaining a warrant.
http://globalpoliticalawakening.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/fear-and-loathing-in-paragould-arkansas.html
Gotta love modern technology
Wellll I certainly. Wut.
And now, we observe the Law of Eristic Escalation.
They're just copying Sheriff Joe's last move.
http://rt.com/usa/news/sheriff-armed-volunteers-arpaio-751/
Heavily armed police in a violent meth area?
Nothing can go wrong here. Taking all bets, who gets shot first, a "Crazy Junkie" or "Law enforcement officer"?
Ive never even heard of this place. Why do they need stormtroopers on every corner?
Because CRIME. Duh.
jesus.
i would think that state level police would intervene before municipal jurisdictions were allowed to go all the way to code FUBAR.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
jesus.
i would think that state level police would intervene before municipal jurisdictions were allowed to go all the way to code FUBAR.
That's because you don't live in Arizona, Arkansas, or Florida.
But I hear old Rick Perry has some ideas of his own.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
jesus.
i would think that state level police would intervene before municipal jurisdictions were allowed to go all the way to code FUBAR.
Yeah. No. See, in True Conservative enclaves, the closer you are to the situation, the
more authority you have. This mayor and his SWAT thugs might be assholes, and the state troopers might even agree (probably not but maybe), but according to the Law of the Good Ol' Boys, that's their town and its their God-given right to govern it as they please.
Quote from: V3X on January 31, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
jesus.
i would think that state level police would intervene before municipal jurisdictions were allowed to go all the way to code FUBAR.
Yeah. No. See, in True Conservative enclaves, the closer you are to the situation, the more authority you have. This mayor and his SWAT thugs might be assholes, and the state troopers might even agree (probably not but maybe), but according to the Law of the Good Ol' Boys, that's their town Fief and its their God-given right to govern it as they please.
Fixed that.
Also, this isn't martial law. It's worse.
Martial law is conducted by military rules, and those rules are communicated to the public. The people enforcing the rules also know the rules, and exist under military discipline.
What you have here is an armed lynch mob.
Ho-ho-holy shit. I'm not even sure how to react to this; being shocked just makes me feel like I haven't been paying attention.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 31, 2013, 01:07:48 PM
And now, we observe the Law of Eristic Escalation.
:popcorn:
Here's hoping no poor souls get curbstomped in the process, though.
:vom: :horrormirth:
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 31, 2013, 02:28:41 PM
Heavily armed police in a violent meth area?
Nothing can go wrong here. Taking all bets, who gets shot first, a "Crazy Junkie" or "Law enforcement officer"?
Smudgy person, who will be filled with lead and it will be claimed they were threatening police/volunteers while on meth.
i believe that's SOP already
*points to Rand Paul's security goon stepping on that lady's neck*
This is gonna end well.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2013, 06:28:42 PM
*points to Rand Paul's security goon stepping on that lady's neck*
This is gonna end well.
i thought that was just one of his rabid supporters? (which just means that he isn't the analog of the pumped up cops, but rather the deputized uber citizens...)
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 31, 2013, 06:28:42 PM
*points to Rand Paul's security goon stepping on that lady's neck*
This is gonna end well.
i thought that was just one of his rabid supporters? (which just means that he isn't the analog of the pumped up cops, but rather the deputized uber citizens...)
Nope. It was his security chief. Whom he refused to fire, and whose actions he refused to condemn. And Rand Paul was still elected, because stomping on a woman's neck seems to be okay with the good people of Kentucky.
If you want to see the future of America, just look at Rand Paul. HE doesn't step on your neck...
His people do. While the po'buckers cheer 'em on.
This country deserves everything it gets, and having that shitneck in the Senate is just the beginning.
wow. that's some class, there.
what lame ass excuse did he give to not condemn his subordinate's actions?
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 07:01:58 PM
wow. that's some class, there.
what lame ass excuse did he give to not condemn his subordinate's actions?
When asked, he just smirked at the reporter, IIRC. Later on, he gave some bland non-answer, which of course was immediately accepted as the last word by our glorious free press.
nice.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 31, 2013, 07:08:56 PM
nice.
Watch the video...It's on Youtube. They have the girl down (signs are an obvious assassination threat), and Paul's press guy has her arms, and fatboy security goon lunges in and bounces off the back of her neck with his foot...Putting ALL of his weight on her (how her neck didn't break is beyond me). Press guy freaks out about it, but not enough to quit or anything.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=rand+paul+neck+stomp&mid=2FBCECD2659329A6D1162FBCECD2659329A6D116&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1&adlt=strict
Yay, Rand Paul, savior of the constitution and the republic.
Fucking arsebag.
It seems he was fired, but it's not clear exactly when, or for how long, or whether he was rehired to another position, etc.
$600 and a year of unsupervised probation ain't shit, really.
http://www.lex18.com/news/rand-paul-supporter-accused-of-assault-enters-alford-plea-in-case
QuoteA Rand Paul supporter charged with assaulting an activist before the November election has entered an Alford Plea in the case.
Police say Tim Profitt stepped on 23-year-old MoveOn.org activist Lauren Valle while she was on the ground before a debate in Lexington between Paul and Jack Conway.
Profitt said he was trying to protect Paul when Valle approached the candidate with a fake award. Profitt then lost his job as the Bourbon County coordinator for the Paul campaign.
An Alford Plea means Profitt recognizes there's enough evidence for a conviction, but he's not addressing the facts alleged. Profitt will pay Valle $600 restitution. Profitt, who is currently out of state, will also serve one year of unsupervised probation.
Back in April, a judge refused a request by Profitt to have the charges against him dismissed.
Quote from: Emo Howard on January 31, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
It seems he was fired, but it's not clear exactly when, or for how long, or whether he was rehired to another position, etc.
$600 and a year of unsupervised probation ain't shit, really.
http://www.lex18.com/news/rand-paul-supporter-accused-of-assault-enters-alford-plea-in-case
QuoteA Rand Paul supporter charged with assaulting an activist before the November election has entered an Alford Plea in the case.
Police say Tim Profitt stepped on 23-year-old MoveOn.org activist Lauren Valle while she was on the ground before a debate in Lexington between Paul and Jack Conway.
Profitt said he was trying to protect Paul when Valle approached the candidate with a fake award. Profitt then lost his job as the Bourbon County coordinator for the Paul campaign.
An Alford Plea means Profitt recognizes there's enough evidence for a conviction, but he's not addressing the facts alleged. Profitt will pay Valle $600 restitution. Profitt, who is currently out of state, will also serve one year of unsupervised probation.
Back in April, a judge refused a request by Profitt to have the charges against him dismissed.
Yep. I do remember that he wasn't immediately fired.
And asking for the charges to be dismissed would have led to very different results if I were the judge. The sheer, unmitigated gall would put me up a tree.
People like him think they're the good guys, and those who oppose them are the bad guys, and they just don't understand why some people don't seem to get that.
It's true of almost every despot and authoritarian asshole in the history of mankind. Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, Bin Laden, Reagan... they all thought they were The Hero of the Story.