1. Microsoft: Okay, they made a dog, Windows 8. But that isn't THEIR fault, it's their stupid users.
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/microsoft-retools-windows-8-address-gripes-6C9813861
Quote from: HUBRIS-FILLED ASS CAKE"Are there things that we can do to improve the experience? Absolutely," Reller said "There is a learning curve (to Windows 8 ) and we can work to address that."
Well, I can think of one way to "improve the experience"...Take all the designers of this piece of shit, and put them back in the "home". Then bring back Windows 7 and MAKE SOMETHING NEW, instead of changing the damn OS every 30 fucking seconds. Lazy fucking bastards. There's a million things you could do that would sell like hotcakes, but why do THAT when you can sell the same thing over and over again, a little worse each time?
Fuck you, Microsoft. Fuck you in the heart. I'm buying a Mac, and I'm never, ever going back.
Oh, and:
QuoteMicrosoft also isn't saying whether it will charge existing owners of Windows 8 devices to get the fixes in Blue.
So yeah.
I'm always the odd man out on this one. I have it on my new laptop and I don't particularly mind it so much. It would be nice if it could be started in desktop mode rather than that start screen i don't use. My typical behavior with Win7 is to use the windows key and type the application i want to use which works just as well with windows 8...better even because they improved the search function. For quick applications and folders I use Fences Pro and Dexpot allows me to use multiple desktops.
I can also do away with encouraging me to sign up for to an microsoft account but whatever.
It'll be interesting to see what they do. I hope they give it more customizable options. My biggest issue with making things user friendly is that developers tend to create more and more steps than necessary to accomplish a simple task.
In the end, I didn't really see much difference from the way I normally use windows...but, at the same time, I can definitely see others' frustrations with it.
you think switching to Mac will solve your rage?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Balls Wellington on May 07, 2013, 09:51:22 PM
you think switching to Mac will solve your rage?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
No.
But I will never give microsoft another dime, after this shit.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2013, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on May 07, 2013, 09:51:22 PM
you think switching to Mac will solve your rage?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
No.
But I will never give microsoft another dime, after this shit.
Ubuntu's pretty nice :lulz:
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 07, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2013, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on May 07, 2013, 09:51:22 PM
you think switching to Mac will solve your rage?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
No.
But I will never give microsoft another dime, after this shit.
Ubuntu's pretty nice :lulz:
HP "optimized" the laptop. You CAN run Linux, but only over top of windows.
There is no escape.
When this thing dies, I'll go to Mac too, if I have the cash. If not, an old piece-of-shit pawnshop laptop with 7.
I really don't like Windows much though. Too many damn updates ALL THE TIME. You spend a good chuck of time postponing shit or waiting for shit to install.
What's wrong with Windows 8?
Seriously, I don't get the outrage. Have you pulled up the new Windows 8 task manager? It's awesome, and lets you see all of the things. (Services! Background services now show up with names!). And you can't tell me that the new file copy dialog isn't sexy. It has graphs & shit.
The new start screen is everything your desktop was supposed to be. The old desktop ended up being a clutter-bin where things got lost. Ordinary user's files were spread out between Documents & Settings, My Documents, Desktop, Download, and random temp folders inside of individual Program Files subfolders. You don't /want/ your computer desktop to be as cluttered as your actual desktop. Your desktop is not a place to keep things. Your desktop is a place to /access/ things. The new start screen is exactly what you wanted your desktop to be - the set of huge clickable/touchable buttons that you use frequently, and when you're not reaching for a thing, it gets out of your way and lets you look at your pretty desktop background.
I wish Win8 had shipped with "tiles" for Log Off and for Shut Down, so they'd be easier to press. I really, really wished it came with the ability to easily set tile images for your shortcuts. (You can do it by making VBscripts that launch an application and putting an image in a bundled resource next to the script, but that's just gross.) I'm not sold on the "charms" thing for desktop (might feel more natural on a tablet?), but I am glad that mobile apps that target Win8 also run on the PC. Because otherwise, nobody would ever write software for Win8 RT.
I really, really wish I didn't suddenly need make registry hacks to get Windows 8 to put OS information on my SSD and user/program data on my giant cheap spinning rust bin, but that broke somewhere between XP and 8, so it's not a problem for Win8 specifically.
I'm more annoyed that the new Sql Server Management Studio 2012 has an insane terrible user interface. It's slightly worse than the 2008 version, which is saying something. They rebuilt it as a Visual Studio add-in thingy when all we wanted was for it to not suck. Like, being able to run a script that's too large to display in a text editor easily. less and more are both ancient; it's a solved problem. SSMS just needs to stop being pants-on-head retarded and catch up to this decade.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on May 07, 2013, 11:08:00 PM
What's wrong with Windows 8?
Seriously, I don't get the outrage. Have you pulled up the new Windows 8 task manager? It's awesome, and lets you see all of the things. (Services! Background services now show up with names!). And you can't tell me that the new file copy dialog isn't sexy. It has graphs & shit.
The new start screen is everything your desktop was supposed to be. The old desktop ended up being a clutter-bin where things got lost. Ordinary user's files were spread out between Documents & Settings, My Documents, Desktop, Download, and random temp folders inside of individual Program Files subfolders. You don't /want/ your computer desktop to be as cluttered as your actual desktop. Your desktop is not a place to keep things. Your desktop is a place to /access/ things. The new start screen is exactly what you wanted your desktop to be - the set of huge clickable/touchable buttons that you use frequently, and when you're not reaching for a thing, it gets out of your way and lets you look at your pretty desktop background.
I wish Win8 had shipped with "tiles" for Log Off and for Shut Down, so they'd be easier to press. I really, really wished it came with the ability to easily set tile images for your shortcuts. (You can do it by making VBscripts that launch an application and putting an image in a bundled resource next to the script, but that's just gross.) I'm not sold on the "charms" thing for desktop (might feel more natural on a tablet?), but I am glad that mobile apps that target Win8 also run on the PC. Because otherwise, nobody would ever write software for Win8 RT.
I really, really wish I didn't suddenly need make registry hacks to get Windows 8 to put OS information on my SSD and user/program data on my giant cheap spinning rust bin, but that broke somewhere between XP and 8, so it's not a problem for Win8 specifically.
I'm more annoyed that the new Sql Server Management Studio 2012 has an insane terrible user interface. It's slightly worse than the 2008 version, which is saying something. They rebuilt it as a Visual Studio add-in thingy when all we wanted was for it to not suck. Like, being able to run a script that's too large to display in a text editor easily. less and more are both ancient; it's a solved problem. SSMS just needs to stop being pants-on-head retarded and catch up to this decade.
What's an Sql? I just want it to DO THE SHIT I WANT TO DO. But it does the shit IT wants to do.
I'd be more pro Mac if they weren't pro exploit Chinese workers.
Quote from: Mome Papess Trivial on May 08, 2013, 02:06:04 AM
I'd be more pro Mac if they weren't pro exploit Chinese workers.
Um, ALL electronics manufacturers do that. Every last one of them. Apple is the one that got the press.
I mean, you think HP is hiring union labor in upstate New York?
Windows 8 was actually a postmodern art student's PHD thesis with the "masturbating Ghanesh screen rush" censored out.
Quote from: Richter on May 08, 2013, 02:35:18 AM
Windows 8 was actually a postmodern art student's PHD thesis with the "masturbating Ghanesh screen rush" censored out.
:lulz:
You're on fire tonight.
LOL U MAD BRO?
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 07, 2013, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on May 07, 2013, 09:51:22 PM
you think switching to Mac will solve your rage?
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
No.
But I will never give microsoft another dime, after this shit.
Follow Microsoft's and my example and steal your OS?
I think something worse just came down the pike.
I just got a spam email from Hewlett Packard.
They want me to buy something called a "Chromebook".
QuoteThe HP Pavilion Chromebook runs on the Chrome operating system, based on the Chrome browser. Welcome to effortlessly simple computing where:
•You boot up in seconds
•Your data is auto–synced
•There's no more buying, installing, or updating
software
•You can switch seamlessly between users
•All of the Google apps you love–like Gmail, Drive,
and YouTube–are built–in
It really looks like they stick you with Chrome and don't let you install anything else.
Quote from: stelz on May 09, 2013, 10:52:03 PM
I think something worse just came down the pike.
I just got a spam email from Hewlett Packard.
They want me to buy something called a "Chromebook".
QuoteThe HP Pavilion Chromebook runs on the Chrome operating system, based on the Chrome browser. Welcome to effortlessly simple computing where:
•You boot up in seconds
•Your data is auto–synced
•There's no more buying, installing, or updating
software
•You can switch seamlessly between users
•All of the Google apps you love–like Gmail, Drive,
and YouTube–are built–in
It really looks like they stick you with Chrome and don't let you install anything else.
Chromebooks are actually pretty cool if everything you do is web-based anyway. The OS is in fact a blown up edition of the Chrome web browser, and no you can't install other native applications besides that, but your additional functionality comes from installing Chrome Apps which are more or less web applications accessible through the browser, like Google Docs. Some of the apps do have offline functionality so you can get to your documents and things without an Internet connection. The price of a Chromebook is seriously lower than the price of a comparabe laptop, and under the hood they're usually reasonably equipped.
I'd never own one, though, not if I had to pay real money for it.
Quote from: V3X on May 10, 2013, 12:02:06 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 09, 2013, 10:52:03 PM
I think something worse just came down the pike.
I just got a spam email from Hewlett Packard.
They want me to buy something called a "Chromebook".
QuoteThe HP Pavilion Chromebook runs on the Chrome operating system, based on the Chrome browser. Welcome to effortlessly simple computing where:
•You boot up in seconds
•Your data is auto–synced
•There's no more buying, installing, or updating
software
•You can switch seamlessly between users
•All of the Google apps you love–like Gmail, Drive,
and YouTube–are built–in
It really looks like they stick you with Chrome and don't let you install anything else.
Chromebooks are actually pretty cool if everything you do is web-based anyway. The OS is in fact a blown up edition of the Chrome web browser, and no you can't install other native applications besides that, but your additional functionality comes from installing Chrome Apps which are more or less web applications accessible through the browser, like Google Docs. Some of the apps do have offline functionality so you can get to your documents and things without an Internet connection. The price of a Chromebook is seriously lower than the price of a comparabe laptop, and under the hood they're usually reasonably equipped.
I'd never own one, though, not if I had to pay real money for it.
I can get to my documents, music, etc. without an internet connection already. I thought everybody could. :? It sounds like something that could lock you out of stuff like uTorrent, etc. "ALL TORRENTS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!" "No, it's a live show, the band gave permission..." "ALL TORRENTS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!"
Chromebook is pretty much just a netbook. Doesn't surprise me that you can't install anything on it.
There is no benevolent incarnation of big brother, Google included.
Quote from: stelz on May 10, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
Quote from: V3X on May 10, 2013, 12:02:06 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 09, 2013, 10:52:03 PM
I think something worse just came down the pike.
I just got a spam email from Hewlett Packard.
They want me to buy something called a "Chromebook".
QuoteThe HP Pavilion Chromebook runs on the Chrome operating system, based on the Chrome browser. Welcome to effortlessly simple computing where:
•You boot up in seconds
•Your data is auto–synced
•There's no more buying, installing, or updating
software
•You can switch seamlessly between users
•All of the Google apps you love–like Gmail, Drive,
and YouTube–are built–in
It really looks like they stick you with Chrome and don't let you install anything else.
Chromebooks are actually pretty cool if everything you do is web-based anyway. The OS is in fact a blown up edition of the Chrome web browser, and no you can't install other native applications besides that, but your additional functionality comes from installing Chrome Apps which are more or less web applications accessible through the browser, like Google Docs. Some of the apps do have offline functionality so you can get to your documents and things without an Internet connection. The price of a Chromebook is seriously lower than the price of a comparabe laptop, and under the hood they're usually reasonably equipped.
I'd never own one, though, not if I had to pay real money for it.
I can get to my documents, music, etc. without an internet connection already. I thought everybody could. :? It sounds like something that could lock you out of stuff like uTorrent, etc. "ALL TORRENTS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!" "No, it's a live show, the band gave permission..." "ALL TORRENTS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!"
It's a matter of how you use your technology. A Chromebook shouldn't be (and isn't really intended to be) your only or primary computer. It's more or less the same level of functionality you'd get in a tablet, except with a familiar keyboard that's easier to use than a touchscreen keyboard, and full sites instead of 'mobile edition' sites. I wouldn't be worried about BitTorrent being blocked, because that's why you have a permanent server at your house, plus something like Plex (http://www.plexapp.com) to access all your stuff when you're away.
Some of my coworkers developed one of the apps that chromebooks will ship with. It's fun building against an OS that's under active, unstable development!
Our opinion, though, is that Google's too late to the market. There's already a perfect form factor for people who just need email/twitter - your phone. The next gen of tablets are shaping up to be more powerful, lighter, and higher res than the Chromebook, and the tablet+keyboard combos that work will be things like the sleek but still powerful MacBook Air or Lenovo Carbon Touch, something with a high end but power efficient processor and a touch screen. The Chromebook feels like something you'd donate to third world countries in large numbers for cost efficiency.
Quote from: stelz on May 10, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
Quote from: V3X on May 10, 2013, 12:02:06 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 09, 2013, 10:52:03 PM
I think something worse just came down the pike.
I just got a spam email from Hewlett Packard.
They want me to buy something called a "Chromebook".
QuoteThe HP Pavilion Chromebook runs on the Chrome operating system, based on the Chrome browser. Welcome to effortlessly simple computing where:
•You boot up in seconds
•Your data is auto–synced
•There's no more buying, installing, or updating
software
•You can switch seamlessly between users
•All of the Google apps you love–like Gmail, Drive,
and YouTube–are built–in
It really looks like they stick you with Chrome and don't let you install anything else.
Chromebooks are actually pretty cool if everything you do is web-based anyway. The OS is in fact a blown up edition of the Chrome web browser, and no you can't install other native applications besides that, but your additional functionality comes from installing Chrome Apps which are more or less web applications accessible through the browser, like Google Docs. Some of the apps do have offline functionality so you can get to your documents and things without an Internet connection. The price of a Chromebook is seriously lower than the price of a comparabe laptop, and under the hood they're usually reasonably equipped.
I'd never own one, though, not if I had to pay real money for it.
I can get to my documents, music, etc. without an internet connection already. I thought everybody could. :? It sounds like something that could lock you out of stuff like uTorrent, etc. "ALL TORRENTS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!" "No, it's a live show, the band gave permission..." "ALL TORRENTS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!"
Chrome OS isnt so much a browser as a minimalistic operating system. Remember, your web browser can run JavaScript, a fully functional (if sometimes maddening) programming language. Chrome OS's vision of software is something like the candies.aniwey.net game - you don't need to install it, just load it. JavaScript is fully capable of making web requests, so you could implement a full BitTorrent client in browser. You could build one as a Chrome OS app; it provides a way to save things to a file system.
Ugh.
I'm happy with my laptop and my cheap Crackberry-clone phone with a keypad and no touch screen. (I liked the phone before it a lot better, you could put a memory card in it. When I bought this one, the feature was no longer available because they were trying to sell cloud drive :puke: )
I don't WANT a pil eof gadgets to do the job of two. I can't AFFORD a laptop AND a tablet AND a phone AND a Chromebook AND a Kindle device AND a dildo that talks dirty to me or tells me I'm pretty or makes coffee or any other halfass shit they're going to come up with.
Quote from: stelz on May 10, 2013, 06:48:51 PM
Ugh.
I'm happy with my laptop and my cheap Crackberry-clone phone with a keypad and no touch screen. (I liked the phone before it a lot better, you could put a memory card in it. When I bought this one, the feature was no longer available because they were trying to sell cloud drive :puke: )
I don't WANT a pil eof gadgets to do the job of two. I can't AFFORD a laptop AND a tablet AND a phone AND a Chromebook AND a Kindle device AND a dildo that talks dirty to me or tells me I'm pretty or makes coffee or any other halfass shit they're going to come up with.
My dildo tells me I'm pretty. You have no idea how much better that makes the 'baitin until you've tried it. Worth every penny :fap:
I'm working with a laptop from 2008 and a £10 phone. Does me just fine.
There's what you actually need to be considered. I hate having bullshit functionality loaded into a device I'll never use. That's just paying for bloat.
Just saw this on facebook.
QuoteI LOVE THIS COMPUTER WORLD: I have this Chromebook. It's a netbook sized laptop with CHROME OS on it, by Google. It can only run the Chrome browser, nothing else. So I took it with me out to where there was free wifi yesterday. I NEVER GOT ANYTHING DONE because the whole fucking system sat there downloading a huge update on slow free wifi, and there's no way to turn that off because Chrome OS is not a whole operating system. Had to take it home to finish the update and get it back to useful state.
The guy would be better off with the talking dildo.
Considering that laptops are a complete nightmare to work on yourself, consider this:
http://news.consumerreports.org/electronics/2013/04/apple-is-tops-when-it-comes-to-computer-tech-support.html
Quote from: stelz on May 15, 2013, 08:52:25 PM
Just saw this on facebook.
QuoteI LOVE THIS COMPUTER WORLD: I have this Chromebook. It's a netbook sized laptop with CHROME OS on it, by Google. It can only run the Chrome browser, nothing else. So I took it with me out to where there was free wifi yesterday. I NEVER GOT ANYTHING DONE because the whole fucking system sat there downloading a huge update on slow free wifi, and there's no way to turn that off because Chrome OS is not a whole operating system. Had to take it home to finish the update and get it back to useful state.
The guy would be better off with the talking dildo.
Everyone would be better off with a talking dildo. There'd be world peace in a matter of minutes.