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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM

Title: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/disney_world_srich_kid_outrage_zTBA0xrvZRkIVc1zItXGDP

QuoteSome wealthy Manhattan moms have figured out a way to cut the long lines at Disney World — by hiring disabled people to pose as family members so they and their kids can jump to the front, The Post has learned. The "black-market Disney guides" run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an eight-hour day.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours," crowed one mom, who hired a disabled guide through Dream Tours Florida.

I mean, the paper is tabloid schlock, but the story seems legit.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: The Johnny on May 15, 2013, 01:09:01 AM

On principle it's bad to use people in such way; on the other hand, they get to get paid to go to Disneyland.

If they are treated with respect and manage to have a good time, it might be a net-plus for them... the problem is that these sorts of things rarely manage to do that.  :|
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 15, 2013, 01:28:34 AM
I was all good with disabled people making $130 an hour that they don't have to report to Social Security, then I saw they were hired through an agency, which probably keeps MOST of it.

Anyway, I imagine hanging around snotty rich people and their bratty spawn at Disneyland day after day is difficult. I wouldn't want to do it.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: The Johnny on May 15, 2013, 02:00:48 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 15, 2013, 01:28:34 AM
I was all good with disabled people making $130 an hour that they don't have to report to Social Security, then I saw they were hired through an agency, which probably keeps MOST of it.

Oh.

I apologize for not reading the article before commenting, but yeah, once it gets established into an agency the outcomes are far more grim.

On a side note, that anthropologist is cute.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: The Johnny on May 15, 2013, 02:08:56 AM

Now, one thing that does bother me about how the news is covered is that:

"People with disabilities" are USED, also, in the article, as a tool of 1% shaming... the news is centered around the acts of the 1% rather than on the potential abuse that is happening to "people with disabilities".

The 1%ers are USING the "people with disabilities" to get thru waiting lines; the NYPost is USING "people with disabilities" to get more readers that hate the 1%.

I'm disgusted by both of them, because these people are just objects/tools for others to use at their convenience and their human side is ignored or glossed over.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
Quote"You can't go to Disney without a tour concierge,'' she sniffed. "This is how the 1 percent does Disney."

Something about that sets my bullshit alarm off. I think it may be due to the story crossing into Onion territory that's fucking it up.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Faust on May 15, 2013, 10:35:29 AM
I don't understand what people see wrong here, every part of that story would make "Bob" proud.

Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:32:47 PM
I wonder if the article had been framed in a "Enterprising People with Disabilities Bilk Rich Idiots at Disney" way how different initial reaction to it would be.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Faust on May 15, 2013, 02:37:51 PM
Capitalism helps aid disabled people, entrepreneurship of disabled leads to beneficial and fun time for all.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Suu on May 15, 2013, 02:40:44 PM
You can buy Fast Passes to move ahead in lines, and they're cheaper than strangers in wheelchairs.

Bullshit alarm.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
Surely the responsible thing to do now is for a group of disabled people (Looking at you, veterans of various wars) to start doing this themselves directly.

I have a vision of rows of wheelchairs just outside the Disneyland borders. Signs held up with "Will ride attractions for food"

The savvy will market themselves as "Good with Children" This is an industry in the making.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: LMNO on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Faust on May 15, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
All set on the stage of the fibreglass atrocity exhibition that is "The happiest place on earth"
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

Oh yeah, it's still disgusting, but as Johnny pointed out, framing it in a way that the rich use people with disabilities gives them the power.  If the article, and the public, try to change their outlook using shame it won't work - these are very obviously people who don't have any.  But if you frame the situation in such a way that power is given to the people they hired, and mockery of the rich folks' idiocy is the tool used, it sends a much better message.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: LMNO on May 15, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
What about, "The rich exploit the poor to get one over on the middle class."
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Suu on May 15, 2013, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
What about, "The rich exploit the poor to get one over on the middle class."

And then, the French Revolution happened.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Madam Guillotine is still waiting and still very hungry.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Suu on May 15, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Madam Guillotine is still waiting and still very hungry.

and that's what happened when the middle class got power they couldn't control. ~_~
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 03:54:25 PM
Monsieur Molotov is in the wings for Act 2.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: GrannySmith on May 15, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
there are too many WAAAAAAAY worse things being done to people, disabled or not, around the world, the 99% could find much more shocking articles to support its case. This is seems to me just bad journalism.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 09:46:40 AM
Quote"You can't go to Disney without a tour concierge,'' she sniffed. "This is how the 1 percent does Disney."

Something about that sets my bullshit alarm off. I think it may be due to the story crossing into Onion territory that's fucking it up.

It's because it's written in tabloid-ese.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

This.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 15, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
All set on the stage of the fibreglass atrocity exhibition that is "The happiest place on earth"

And this.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

Oh yeah, it's still disgusting, but as Johnny pointed out, framing it in a way that the rich use people with disabilities gives them the power.  If the article, and the public, try to change their outlook using shame it won't work - these are very obviously people who don't have any.  But if you frame the situation in such a way that power is given to the people they hired, and mockery of the rich folks' idiocy is the tool used, it sends a much better message.

Framing it that way doesn't make any more sense than framing it "Undocumented Immigrants Take Advantage of Farm Corporations in California". They DON'T have the power, and reframing it to make it sound like they do doesn't change that. It's just spin-doctoring.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: GrannySmith on May 15, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
there are too many WAAAAAAAY worse things being done to people, disabled or not, around the world, the 99% could find much more shocking articles to support its case. This is seems to me just bad journalism.

Derp.

It's not the most shocking or horrific thing going on by a long shot. It's just that everything about it, including the shitty tabloid reporting, is a perfect illustration of America™.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

Oh yeah, it's still disgusting, but as Johnny pointed out, framing it in a way that the rich use people with disabilities gives them the power.  If the article, and the public, try to change their outlook using shame it won't work - these are very obviously people who don't have any.  But if you frame the situation in such a way that power is given to the people they hired, and mockery of the rich folks' idiocy is the tool used, it sends a much better message.

Framing it that way doesn't make any more sense than framing it "Undocumented Immigrants Take Advantage of Farm Corporations in California". They DON'T have the power, and reframing it to make it sound like they do doesn't change that. It's just spin-doctoring.

Yeah.  Sometimes I just like pretending people actually aren't this shitty.  It's fucking gross.   :sad:
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 15, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 15, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
The very rich use the disabled to flaunt their privilege and cut in front of all the schmucks waiting in line who don't have enough money to buy a cripple.

Oh yeah, it's still disgusting, but as Johnny pointed out, framing it in a way that the rich use people with disabilities gives them the power.  If the article, and the public, try to change their outlook using shame it won't work - these are very obviously people who don't have any.  But if you frame the situation in such a way that power is given to the people they hired, and mockery of the rich folks' idiocy is the tool used, it sends a much better message.

Framing it that way doesn't make any more sense than framing it "Undocumented Immigrants Take Advantage of Farm Corporations in California". They DON'T have the power, and reframing it to make it sound like they do doesn't change that. It's just spin-doctoring.

Yeah.  Sometimes I just like pretending people actually aren't this shitty.  It's fucking gross.   :sad:

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
It's an interesting idea to play with for a moment though. Lets consider some tabloid style headlines where the power balance has shifted. What happened recently? Factory collapses. Lets try that.

"WORKERS CAUSE FACTORY COLLAPSE"

"Thousands of workers are putting their bosses at serious risk by insisting on unsafe conditions. Notorious Scumbag, 53, noted how the local community bullied him into a position that may now result in jail. "There are tens of thousands of people here. They come to me every day asking if there is work for them. My heart breaks. I negotiate with my buyers to take more for less so I can help these people. I tell them there is no room, and the working conditions will be cramped and unsafe. They just don't care. Some even bring their children along to help them learn reading and writing on their break times. They also learn skills which they can use to seek work later. I now understand what Oscar Schindler meant with "Just one more". The wages they demanded began to spiral out of control and I was left having to choose between repairs, maintainace and the wage bill. I couldn't let people go hungry so the building got worse. I tried to help them, and now they are sending me to jail"

Mr Scumbag has been a vital community slumlord for over 25 years. The ungrateful actions in protest against his inability to pay any compensation are most improper. Scumbag further notes "It's not just me at risk here. There are hundreds of slumlords bullied by their workers into providing employment, space and payment. Their refusal to admit any fault here shames the hundreds of working hours lost. Vital products will not be shipped and discount sales may have to stop. This is a crass, nationalistic worldview that does not consider the needs of the first world."

Mr Scumbag makes a number of compelling points but what is the case from the other side? Phuc Ed Ova, 12 was a worker in the collapsed factory. He claims that he lost several family members in the collapse. In a short statement made to us he remarked that Mr scumbag "Is a very nice man, no hit me". He then started demanding a job and stated that if we did not provide one, he would go and steal one from a a white man.

More at 11.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 15, 2013, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
Surely the responsible thing to do now is for a group of disabled people (Looking at you, veterans of various wars) to start doing this themselves directly.

I have a vision of rows of wheelchairs just outside the Disneyland borders. Signs held up with "Will ride attractions for food"

The savvy will market themselves as "Good with Children" This is an industry in the making.

Not just war vets in wheelchairs. I want the entrance to Disneyland MOBBED with people who would have been stuck working a sideshow tent back in the 30's.

GOOBLE GOBBLE, MOTHERFUCKERS
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 16, 2013, 02:37:54 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 15, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
It's an interesting idea to play with for a moment though. Lets consider some tabloid style headlines where the power balance has shifted. What happened recently? Factory collapses. Lets try that.

"WORKERS CAUSE FACTORY COLLAPSE"

"Thousands of workers are putting their bosses at serious risk by insisting on unsafe conditions. Notorious Scumbag, 53, noted how the local community bullied him into a position that may now result in jail. "There are tens of thousands of people here. They come to me every day asking if there is work for them. My heart breaks. I negotiate with my buyers to take more for less so I can help these people. I tell them there is no room, and the working conditions will be cramped and unsafe. They just don't care. Some even bring their children along to help them learn reading and writing on their break times. They also learn skills which they can use to seek work later. I now understand what Oscar Schindler meant with "Just one more". The wages they demanded began to spiral out of control and I was left having to choose between repairs, maintainace and the wage bill. I couldn't let people go hungry so the building got worse. I tried to help them, and now they are sending me to jail"

Mr Scumbag has been a vital community slumlord for over 25 years. The ungrateful actions in protest against his inability to pay any compensation are most improper. Scumbag further notes "It's not just me at risk here. There are hundreds of slumlords bullied by their workers into providing employment, space and payment. Their refusal to admit any fault here shames the hundreds of working hours lost. Vital products will not be shipped and discount sales may have to stop. This is a crass, nationalistic worldview that does not consider the needs of the first world."

Mr Scumbag makes a number of compelling points but what is the case from the other side? Phuc Ed Ova, 12 was a worker in the collapsed factory. He claims that he lost several family members in the collapse. In a short statement made to us he remarked that Mr scumbag "Is a very nice man, no hit me". He then started demanding a job and stated that if we did not provide one, he would go and steal one from a a white man.

More at 11.

I think Ayn Rand already wrote that book, it was called "Atlas Shrugged".
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: GrannySmith on May 16, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: GrannySmith on May 15, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
there are too many WAAAbad journalism.
Derp.
:lulz: i guess i had that derp coming right for me  :lulz:
yes, of course it's gross. And i do agree with 99% (whatever that means) and i do think the 1% is disgusting. i just think they're much more despicable than that -naja, i guess this isn't a contest of despicableness ;)
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
QuoteI think Ayn Rand already wrote that book, it was called "Atlas Shrugged".

Ah shit. At least it wasn't popular and taken seriously.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 16, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 16, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
QuoteI think Ayn Rand already wrote that book, it was called "Atlas Shrugged".

Ah shit. At least it wasn't popular and taken seriously.

I KNOW, RIGHT?  :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 16, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: GrannySmith on May 16, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: GrannySmith on May 15, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
there are too many WAAAbad journalism.
Derp.
:lulz: i guess i had that derp coming right for me  :lulz:
yes, of course it's gross. And i do agree with 99% (whatever that means) and i do think the 1% is disgusting. i just think they're much more despicable than that -naja, i guess this isn't a contest of despicableness ;)

Nope, just a perfect little vignette of ick.

It's actually got so much perfect Hollywood outrage all packaged neatly that if it weren't citing a real and well-known cultural studies author I would suspect it was made up. It totally SOUNDS like urban legend.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 16, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
The upside is that I think I found a new toy: hxxp://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59563

Too busy until the end of term, but in five weeks, my pretties. Oh, we shall play!
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 16, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
The upside is that I think I found a new toy: hxxp://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59563

Too busy until the end of term, but in five weeks, my pretties. Oh, we shall play!

I was worried about sleigh's response, until he clarified.  Matty Woodchuck impressions FTW.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 16, 2013, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 16, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
The upside is that I think I found a new toy: hxxp://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59563

Too busy until the end of term, but in five weeks, my pretties. Oh, we shall play!

I was worried about sleigh's response, until he clarified.  Matty Woodchuck impressions FTW.

:lulz: Yeah, that was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2013, 07:14:14 PM
Yglesias' piece on work safety standards in Bangladesh really has to be read to be believed.  It was something like "Different Places Have Different Safety Rules and That's OK".

No, actually, it was exactly that.  That was the title of his Slate piece in response to the death of 161 people in a recent factory collapse over there.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 16, 2013, 07:26:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2013, 07:14:14 PM
Yglesias' piece on work safety standards in Bangladesh really has to be read to be believed.  It was something like "Different Places Have Different Safety Rules and That's OK".

No, actually, it was exactly that.  That was the title of his Slate piece in response to the death of 161 people in a recent factory collapse over there.

Whaaaaaat are you shitting me?  :horrormirth: I'm going to look that up and read it after class.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Cain on May 16, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
Here you go

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/04/24/international_factory_safety.html

Also, in my admittedly biased opinion, the best response to him (http://www.mrdestructo.com/2013/04/destructo-salon-does-matthew-yglesias.html).

I'd also like everyone to note that this is the same Yglesias who was being touted as the (somewhat pudgy and ill-shaven) face of American progressive politics a few years back. 
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 16, 2013, 08:14:21 PM
Holy shit, that response is awesome!
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2013, 01:10:44 AM
Quote from: Cain on May 16, 2013, 07:35:13 PM
Here you go

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/04/24/international_factory_safety.html

Also, in my admittedly biased opinion, the best response to him (http://www.mrdestructo.com/2013/04/destructo-salon-does-matthew-yglesias.html).

I'd also like everyone to note that this is the same Yglesias who was being touted as the (somewhat pudgy and ill-shaven) face of American progressive politics a few years back.

Wow, that guy is a jaw-dropping shitheel.

And that response to him, truly, is excellent.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2013, 12:39:12 PM
He always has been.  His schtick has always been somehow proceeding from a counterintuitive (and usually factually incorrect) premise and discovering whole new dimensions in how to be wrong....which is no doubt why he now works for Slate magazine.

I mean, this (http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/03/the-illusion-of-disagreement/) was pretty cute:

QuoteThe fact that the economics profession can offer so little in the way of consensus guidance about dramatic, crucially important events like the panic of 2007-2008 is a huge problem and a very legitimate knock on the enterprise, but it doesn't actually undermine the overall epistemic status of the discipline.

And this is further proof of his sociopathy (http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/03/bank-of-japan-easing/):

QuoteJapan, after all, just got hit with a series of very real negative shocks. Buildings have fallen down. Buildings that are still standing have been damaged by water. Cars, trucks, and other pieces of useful equipment have been ruined. Roads, docks, and other pieces of transportation infrastructure have been blocked by debris. Several nuclear power reactors aren't generating electrical power. Tens of thousands of human beings are dead or injured.

Negative shocks!  Stuff damaged!  Oh yeah, and thousands of people died.

He thinks sentences like this (http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/02/the-immiseration-of-labor/) are insightful, rather than a banal acknowledgement of facts:

QuotePeople often don't realize it . . . but Marx was in many ways working in the tradition of classical economists like David Ricardo and Adam Smith.

No way!  Seriously?  Next you'll be telling me Emile Durkheim worked in the tradition of Auguste Comte.

Moar (http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/02/pepperoni-pizza-is-delicious/):

Quote:lulz:On a related note, if WalMart manages to "drive mom and pop stores out of business" by selling affordable groceries to under-served urban neighborhoods, that's what I would call a triumph for human progress.

I could go on all day.  Yggie is....a pet interest of mine.  His ability to be absolutely and 100% wrong on any given subject comforts me, as it reminds me that liberals are equally capable of being utterly stupid and totally sociopathic.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on May 17, 2013, 01:47:02 PM
Pretty much everything that guys writes comes off as a pastiche of the attitudes of the emergent autonamous agent we call corporations. But it's not a caricature. This nobend actually thinks that way. Like forealz  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
I get a very strong impression that he considers himself significantly smarter and more objective than everyone else, and in his own mind is merely deigning to point out what he thinks is obvious.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2013, 04:21:29 PM
Harvard grad child of affluence with pretensions to Beltway significance.

So yes.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2013, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 17, 2013, 04:21:29 PM
Harvard grad child of affluence with pretensions to Beltway significance.

So yes.

Ugh

I hope he gets eaten.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/disney_world_srich_kid_outrage_zTBA0xrvZRkIVc1zItXGDP

QuoteSome wealthy Manhattan moms have figured out a way to cut the long lines at Disney World — by hiring disabled people to pose as family members so they and their kids can jump to the front, The Post has learned. The "black-market Disney guides" run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an eight-hour day.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours," crowed one mom, who hired a disabled guide through Dream Tours Florida.

I mean, the paper is tabloid schlock, but the story seems legit.

Leaving aside the "Haji cripple" aspect of it, this is just another example of the two-rule system.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours,"

Her daughter, I imagine, will learn quite a bit from this experience.

And that's where the Mitt Romneys of the world come from.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: LMNO on May 17, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
I get a very strong impression that he considers himself significantly smarter and more objective than everyone else, and in his own mind is merely deigning to point out what he thinks is obvious.

He undoubtedly claims the oh-so-douchey moniker "contrarian" at cocktail parties.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/disney_world_srich_kid_outrage_zTBA0xrvZRkIVc1zItXGDP

QuoteSome wealthy Manhattan moms have figured out a way to cut the long lines at Disney World — by hiring disabled people to pose as family members so they and their kids can jump to the front, The Post has learned. The "black-market Disney guides" run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an eight-hour day.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours," crowed one mom, who hired a disabled guide through Dream Tours Florida.

I mean, the paper is tabloid schlock, but the story seems legit.

Leaving aside the "Haji cripple" aspect of it, this is just another example of the two-rule system.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours,"

Her daughter, I imagine, will learn quite a bit from this experience.

And that's where the Mitt Romneys of the world come from.

This. I'd bet lessons learnt in "the happiest place on earth" stick to kids pretty well. Especially things like money=power=privilege.

The parents then re-enforce that by shouting about it to all their friends when they get home. Really beats the lesson into you. Kinda links to that billionaire who had a bitch fit because he thought they fucked up the rich list. Self identifying your personal wealth as a key part of personal worth. Rambling, need to think this through better.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Cain on May 17, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 17, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 17, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
I get a very strong impression that he considers himself significantly smarter and more objective than everyone else, and in his own mind is merely deigning to point out what he thinks is obvious.

He undoubtedly claims the oh-so-douchey moniker "contrarian" at cocktail parties.

I found "Slate writer" was a major tip-off this might be the case, personally.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2013, 05:49:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 15, 2013, 12:46:12 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/disney_world_srich_kid_outrage_zTBA0xrvZRkIVc1zItXGDP

QuoteSome wealthy Manhattan moms have figured out a way to cut the long lines at Disney World — by hiring disabled people to pose as family members so they and their kids can jump to the front, The Post has learned. The "black-market Disney guides" run $130 an hour, or $1,040 for an eight-hour day.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours," crowed one mom, who hired a disabled guide through Dream Tours Florida.

I mean, the paper is tabloid schlock, but the story seems legit.

Leaving aside the "Haji cripple" aspect of it, this is just another example of the two-rule system.

"My daughter waited one minute to get on 'It's a Small World' — the other kids had to wait 2 1/2 hours,"

Her daughter, I imagine, will learn quite a bit from this experience.

And that's where the Mitt Romneys of the world come from.

Oh yes, absolutely! Those rules only apply to the little people. If I'm not one of them, I get to do what I want.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:52:50 PM
Precisely.  Also, that disabled people are an appliance, like a GPS.

Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
Got my wallet, got my phone, got my keys, got my cripple, all set! Lets go have some FUN.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 17, 2013, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:52:50 PM
Precisely.  Also, that disabled people are an appliance, like a GPS.

ALL the "other" people are appliances, with functions like cleaning, landscaping and doing the actual work that increases your profit margin.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
Got my wallet, got my phone, got my keys, got my cripple, all set! Lets go have some FUN.

Our cripple is wilting.  Did anyone remember to feed it this week?
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on May 17, 2013, 05:59:39 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:52:50 PM
Precisely.  Also, that disabled people are an appliance, like a GPS.

Well, like all of those kind of people, they can be useful sometimes.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 17, 2013, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
Got my wallet, got my phone, got my keys, got my cripple, all set! Lets go have some FUN.

Our cripple is wilting.  Did anyone remember to feed it this week?

This cripple is no good, it gets queasey on the rides. I'd like a full refund and a replacement cripple.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
Got my wallet, got my phone, got my keys, got my cripple, all set! Lets go have some FUN.

Our cripple is wilting.  Did anyone remember to feed it this week?

I think I switched the food drip on Wednesday. It may have something to do with the overflowing catheter. Get MnnbtTtete to have a look at that and clean it up.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 06:04:20 PM
Quote from: stelz on May 17, 2013, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 17, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 05:57:33 PM
Got my wallet, got my phone, got my keys, got my cripple, all set! Lets go have some FUN.

Our cripple is wilting.  Did anyone remember to feed it this week?

This cripple is no good, it gets queasey on the rides. I'd like a full refund and a replacement cripple.

Do we even have to bring the cripple on the ride once we get to the head of the line?  It kind of ruins the experience.
Title: Re: Just when I thought the 1% couldn't get more despicable:
Post by: Junkenstein on May 17, 2013, 06:05:12 PM
Yes, but you can put them in the back of the cart so they don't really show up on the photographs.