It's disappointing to realize that Principia Discordia is little more than a garden-variety group of leftist partisans stirring up the usual fears of the fascist boogieman. It's particularly ironic, since so much of the political thuggery you see on the streets of Europe these days is by fascists and Islamist fellow travelers of the left. One would hope that discordians would be better at seeing through leftist memetic control tactics, but it seems that you want to propagate them rather than deconstruct them. Where's the discord in leftist group-think?
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:05:47 PM
It's disappointing to realize that Principia Discordia is little more than a garden-variety group of leftist partisans stirring up the usual fears of the fascist boogieman. It's particularly ironic, since so much of the political thuggery you see on the streets of Europe these days is by fascists and Islamist fellow travelers of the left. One would hope that discordians would be better at seeing through leftist memetic control tactics, but it seems that you want to propagate them rather than deconstruct them. Where's the discord in leftist group-think?
Can you explain this a little please?
I see.
Do you find it amusing a man was murdered while police watched? Do you find it amusing that the man was murdered due to his political beliefs?
Could you define what you are calling "Fascist"? I'm being patient here, because you seriously sound like some kind of nazi sympathiser right now. Consider that.
Ah. A troll. Why didn't you say so?
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:53:46 PM
No, not a troll, I'm quite serious about this. Is there a political litmus test for being a member here?
Yes, but it's ongoing, has undefined parameters, and isn't at all very much fun.
Wait, how SRS are you? Define "quite", please.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:25:18 PM
You want a list of thuggish political actions taken by leftists and Islamists in Europe? I'm not inclined to produce it, but the information is there if you look for it.
I find it so amusing that when far rightists make small, usually symbolic demonstrations in the western world, they tend to be vastly outnumbered by leftists throwing things at them, threatening them with violence, and calling *them* the fascists. Incredibly, many people fall for this Orwellian theater of the absurd.
The albanians and romanians in greece are being either chased out if they are lucky, killed if they are not. Before you comment on greeces on again off again romance with facism look up a bit of its history.
Its always been a disaster. And this time it looks like its going to manifest as a civil war.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
No, I'm a discordian. I favor an aggressive right wing to counter the lefto-fascists and Stalinists. If I had to describe my politics, it would be something like "postmodern nihilist reactionary". As I see it, modern liberal civilization is constructed out of ideas which are rather arbitrary, unnatural, and quasi-religious, and can only be maintained by constant, heavy-handed propaganda and law enforcement. Therefore modernity has become a very ripe target for deconstruction. You might also say that my experience with neo-Stalinist elements of the American university system have soured me on the entire lefto-progressive project.
There is actually an intellectual avante-garde developing around people like me, sometimes called "the Dark Enlightenment" or "the Red Pill movement." You can find some of their writings here (http://freenortherner.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/dark-enlightenment-reading-list/). You can also google "davis aurini nihilism" for an articulate spokesman for this crowd. Enjoy.
>postmodern nihilist reactionary
what does this even mean? how does one form a reactionary opinion from nihilism? does one simply do nothing?
>red pill movement
oh ok, you're from /pol/.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:25:18 PM
You want a list of thuggish political actions taken by leftists and Islamists in Europe? I'm not inclined to produce it, but the information is there if you look for it.
I find it so amusing that when far rightists make small, usually symbolic demonstrations in the western world, they tend to be vastly outnumbered by leftists throwing things at them, threatening them with violence, and calling *them* the fascists. Incredibly, many people fall for this Orwellian theater of the absurd.
Fantastic. We have a fan.
Fucking tard.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:53:46 PM
No, not a troll, I'm quite serious about this. Is there a political litmus test for being a member here?
Yeah. If you have decided that the right or the left has your best interests at heart, then you are a fucking RETARD and exist here only to be shat on.
But I save the particularly horrible shits for the fascists. Because you're not even FUNNY when you do shit like this.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:05:47 PM
It's disappointing to realize that Principia Discordia is little more than a garden-variety group of leftist partisans stirring up the usual fears of the fascist boogieman. It's particularly ironic, since so much of the political thuggery you see on the streets of Europe these days is by fascists and Islamist fellow travelers of the left. One would hope that discordians would be better at seeing through leftist memetic control tactics, but it seems that you want to propagate them rather than deconstruct them. Where's the discord in leftist group-think?
Opposing fascism makes us lefties?
:lulz:
You are one stupid motherfucker.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
No, I'm a discordian. I favor an aggressive right wing to counter the lefto-fascists and Stalinists. If I had to describe my politics, it would be something like "postmodern nihilist reactionary". As I see it, modern liberal civilization is constructed out of ideas which are rather arbitrary, unnatural, and quasi-religious, and can only be maintained by constant, heavy-handed propaganda and law enforcement. Therefore modernity has become a very ripe target for deconstruction. You might also say that my experience with neo-Stalinist elements of the American university system have soured me on the entire lefto-progressive project.
There is actually an intellectual avante-garde developing around people like me, sometimes called "the Dark Enlightenment" or "the Red Pill movement." You can find some of their writings here (http://freenortherner.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/dark-enlightenment-reading-list/). You can also google "davis aurini nihilism" for an articulate spokesman for this crowd. Enjoy.
:lord:
QuoteThere is actually an intellectual avante-garde developing around people like me
:lulz: LET'S JUST EXAMINE THAT INTELLECT, SHALL WE? :lulz:
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 11, 2013, 03:33:23 AM
Have any of you considered that to discuss "current events" in this manner is to buy into the manufactured illusions presented as truth, to become entangled in the samsaric web of lies, and to be carriers for the memetic virus sometimes called "consensus reality"? Is it not better to construct one's own reality, manufacture more pleasing illusions and thereby become the masters of Maya rather than its slaves?
And don't all you fuckers pile up on this goose-stepping little shitstain. I'm calling dibs.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 06:01:56 AM
Roger, relax dude, drop some acid -- you're starting to sound like a fascist.
Yep. Fascists are known for laughing at people.
Um, wait. No, they're known for murdering people retail, then wholesale, and then getting their necks broken on a gallows.
:lulz:
Aw, he's fucked off. :sad:
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
No, I'm a discordian. I favor an aggressive right wing to counter the lefto-fascists and Stalinists. If I had to describe my politics, it would be something like "postmodern nihilist reactionary". As I see it, modern liberal civilization is constructed out of ideas which are rather arbitrary, unnatural, and quasi-religious, and can only be maintained by constant, heavy-handed propaganda and law enforcement. Therefore modernity has become a very ripe target for deconstruction. You might also say that my experience with neo-Stalinist elements of the American university system have soured me on the entire lefto-progressive project.
There is actually an intellectual avante-garde developing around people like me, sometimes called "the Dark Enlightenment" or "the Red Pill movement." You can find some of their writings here (http://freenortherner.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/dark-enlightenment-reading-list/). You can also google "davis aurini nihilism" for an articulate spokesman for this crowd. Enjoy.
Is that like the Dark Carnival?
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:26:30 AM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
No, I'm a discordian. I favor an aggressive right wing to counter the lefto-fascists and Stalinists. If I had to describe my politics, it would be something like "postmodern nihilist reactionary". As I see it, modern liberal civilization is constructed out of ideas which are rather arbitrary, unnatural, and quasi-religious, and can only be maintained by constant, heavy-handed propaganda and law enforcement. Therefore modernity has become a very ripe target for deconstruction. You might also say that my experience with neo-Stalinist elements of the American university system have soured me on the entire lefto-progressive project.
There is actually an intellectual avante-garde developing around people like me, sometimes called "the Dark Enlightenment" or "the Red Pill movement." You can find some of their writings here (http://freenortherner.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/dark-enlightenment-reading-list/). You can also google "davis aurini nihilism" for an articulate spokesman for this crowd. Enjoy.
Is that like the Dark Carnival?
Maybe it's like the Black Parade?
You're totally one of those basement-dwelling PUA guys, aren't you?
From the little freak's link:
QuoteBefore that, I'll briefly explain the Dark Enlightenment. It is essentially the realization that men are not equal. It is a reactionary movement against the progressivist ideology that dominates the Cathedral (ie. the elites) and is based on the untrue assumption of the equality of man.
Beyond that, there is a diverse array of ideologies among those that would be considered part of the Dark Enlightenment. Among those in the Dark Enlightenment are reactionaries, paleo-conservatives, paleo-libertarians, Christian traditionalists, formalists, fascists (in the non-pejorative sense), monarchists, tribalists, ethno-nationalists, nihilists, hedonists, and many others. The uniting link between these disparate ideologies is opposition to the current progressivist order and her sister ideologies of democracy, egalitarianism, socialism, feminism, multiculturalism, modernity, etc.
1. There is no non-pejorative (sic) sense of the word "fascist", and hasn't been since Cicero kicked the bucket.
2. Opposition to egalitarianism. Heh. Stupid fuckers like Brother Nihil always assume THEY are the elite. They aren't, of course, and they'd last in the world they dream of until sometime Saturday morning.
3. Fascists are silly buggers, and always have been. Especially twits like this useless pinealist. When he's had a job or two and his balls drop, maybe he'll be taken seriously...NAW.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:31:54 AM
You're totally one of those basement-dwelling PUA guys, aren't you?
No, he's the ELITE.
:lulz:
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
It is also worth noting, judging from the link, that his philosophy is based entirely on a collectible card game.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:34:09 AM
It is also worth noting, judging from the link, that his philosophy is based entirely on a collectible card game.
:facepalm:
What're your guesses? 17, or 35?
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
:lulz:
Quote from: from the linkThe Dark Enlightenment is libertarians mugged by reality, a libertarian who realizes that the eighteenth century was right about women, and Bull Conner right about blacks..
I don't think he's trolling at all. I think he's actually serious.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:35:02 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:34:09 AM
It is also worth noting, judging from the link, that his philosophy is based entirely on a collectible card game.
:facepalm:
What're your guesses? 17, or 35?
27 year old college dropout, preaching from his mother's basement.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
:lulz:
Quote from: from the linkThe Dark Enlightenment is libertarians mugged by reality, a libertarian who realizes that the eighteenth century was right about women, and Bull Conner right about blacks..
I don't think he's trolling at all. I think he's actually serious.
God I hope so.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:36:16 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
:lulz:
Quote from: from the linkThe Dark Enlightenment is libertarians mugged by reality, a libertarian who realizes that the eighteenth century was right about women, and Bull Conner right about blacks..
I don't think he's trolling at all. I think he's actually serious.
God I hope so.
Me, too. This tard is going to be the most fun we've had here with a political tard since Voice of Truth flounced in a blaze of glory and fatal butthurt, back in 2005.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:38:06 AM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:36:16 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
:lulz:
Quote from: from the linkThe Dark Enlightenment is libertarians mugged by reality, a libertarian who realizes that the eighteenth century was right about women, and Bull Conner right about blacks..
I don't think he's trolling at all. I think he's actually serious.
God I hope so.
Me, too. This tard is going to be the most fun we've had here with a political tard since Voice of Truth flounced in a blaze of glory and fatal butthurt, back in 2005.
Only if he sticks it out. If he takes off it's all us holding our dicks and nothing to stick 'em in.
Oh, I don't know...That link is a GOLD MINE that won't play out for a long time.
QuoteYou should logically conclude that women should never have been emancipated and never given the vote, thus logically, you should be reactionary.
I think I have found my new, lawful prey. :lol:
WHO THE FUCK IS EDITING THAT WEBSITE?
:lol:
Spelling, punctuation, and grammar, Nazitards.
ETA: This is just one more reason I LOVE LOVE LOVE self-proclaimed "intellectuals".
QuoteReactionaries often get that way because they've been mugged by life (or by divorce lawyers or by political correctness commissars or just by black men);
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Poor little manlets.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 06:57:01 AM
SRS? PUA? I don't know this basement-dweller lingo. But I will say that the semi-sexual vibe I'm getting from you guys now that you have an excuse to pull out your good-guy badges is rather, shall we say, creepy?
Yeah, we're good for that. Now, Brother Nihil, tell me...When did the divorce lawyers and uppity women and Black dudes run off with YOUR testicles?
:lulz:
I mean, we're just quoting links to your fellow "intellectuals".
:lulz:
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:07:09 AM
Enjoying our endarkenment are we?
Giggling my ass off, thanks.
I take back what I said earlier. You tards are fucking HILARIOUS. :lulz:
And I have to say, it's nice to see that the hippies don't have a lock on the "pretentious fuckwit" market.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
Roger, you're a plodder, a pedant and a dull-witted plebe. If the Elders of Discordianism could see the partisan dullards waving their banner surely there would be hell to pay. But I digress.
Well, shit, dude...I'm worse than THAT. I am also an over-sized freak who enjoys putting the boot on fascists. Not because I am some kind of fan of basic humanity, but because it's funny to watch "NORTHERN FREEDUM" types curl up like the sissies you are. Best part is, I'm not even particularly tough. I just won the genetic lottery on size and "mean streak", which is totally not "just" in any sense of the word, which makes it even tastier.
QuoteSince you're studying the material I provided, I'd recommend reading Mencius Moldbug first -- he's easily the wittiest and most insightful writer of the group.
Sorry, still lauging at the misogyny and racism at the link itself.
Wait. You thought I'd take this shit
seriously?
:lulz:
You know, Nigel will probably disagree with me, and maybe even think less of me, because I believe that it isn't morally wrong to beat the mortal shit out of fascists for any reason or no reason at all...But that's because she's a better person than me. I'm comfortable with that, because I am Cornish by descent, and we never set out to be the best human beings in the world. No, we set out to be the least successful pirates (accomplishment unlocked), world champion sheep-shaggers, and best ill-tempered, low-forehead brutes possible.
But, you know, this IS the internet, and "mortal shit-kickings" just aren't in the cards. So I shall content myself with "laughing at you", while I check to see if any of your fellow "intellectuals" post from Tucson.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:40:59 AM
How long have you had this violent sexual fetish vis-à-vis fascists?
Since about 1983. Why do you ask?
But just to clarify, there isn't anything sexual about it. I just think it's funny. I mean, seriously...Look at my avatar. Do I LOOK like someone in search of "enlightenment" of ANY kind, light or dark?
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
I wish there were something funny about you, Uncle Roger. Since there isn't, I'll be off now. Enjoy your reading!
Have a good time bitterly fuming about women and Black people! :lulz:
Also, I think galdrux.com needs a visit. To return the favor, you might say.
http://galdrux.com/user/brothernihil
CALLED IT, NIGEL!
30 year old basement dweller, wants to be a SUPERHERO! :lulz:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 05:43:55 AM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 19, 2013, 11:05:47 PM
It's disappointing to realize that Principia Discordia is little more than a garden-variety group of leftist partisans stirring up the usual fears of the fascist boogieman. It's particularly ironic, since so much of the political thuggery you see on the streets of Europe these days is by fascists and Islamist fellow travelers of the left. One would hope that discordians would be better at seeing through leftist memetic control tactics, but it seems that you want to propagate them rather than deconstruct them. Where's the discord in leftist group-think?
Opposing fascism makes us lefties?
:lulz:
You are one stupid motherfucker.
He owns a autographed copy of Fountainhead.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:35:33 AM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
:lulz:
Quote from: from the linkThe Dark Enlightenment is libertarians mugged by reality, a libertarian who realizes that the eighteenth century was right about women, and Bull Conner right about blacks..
I don't think he's trolling at all. I think he's actually serious.
"Natural born libertarianism" is based on the highly masculine attitude to respect each others authority over their own domain, largely because when they don't, these people are easily provoked and that leads to bloody fights. It's not some kind of idealistic cult of tolerance, more like the attitude of reducing violence by territoriality – like alpha dogs do.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
Roger, you're a plodder, a pedant and a dull-witted plebe. If the Elders of Discordianism could see the partisan dullards waving their banner surely there would be hell to pay. But I digress.
Well, shit, dude...I'm worse than THAT. I am also an over-sized freak who enjoys putting the boot on fascists. Not because I am some kind of fan of basic humanity, but because it's funny to watch "NORTHERN FREEDUM" types curl up like the sissies you are. Best part is, I'm not even particularly tough. I just won the genetic lottery on size and "mean streak", which is totally not "just" in any sense of the word, which makes it even tastier.
QuoteSince you're studying the material I provided, I'd recommend reading Mencius Moldbug first -- he's easily the wittiest and most insightful writer of the group.
Sorry, still lauging at the misogyny and racism at the link itself.
Wait. You thought I'd take this shit seriously?
:lulz:
I have not been doing much global warming blogging lately, since that seems to be an area, where, like socialism, everyone knows the ruling elite is lying, and their continued lying only embarrasses them. When the climategate files came out, we had documentary proof that all the conspiracy theories about official science were true. Indeed the concept of the Cathedral, which is a loose coalition of many small conspiracies that in effect act like a vast conspiracy, owes much to what was revealed in the climategate files.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 07:50:48 AM
http://galdrux.com/user/brothernihil
CALLED IT, NIGEL!
30 year old basement dweller, wants to be a SUPERHERO! :lulz:
/bravo good sir!
QuoteHere for To create an alter ego: Superhero, Supervillain, Troll, Star, New Identity., To save, conquer, troll, entertain, seduce or shock., To make friends. -
Bless his lonely heart, the nihilist just wants some friends.
There would probably have been hope if he was 12. I see a lost cause here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iqllP8ASgU
and that's all i got to say to this pretentious shitneck.
Roger, is a thread split funnier or not? It's early. I can't tell yet.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
Roger, you're a plodder, a pedant and a dull-witted plebe. If the Elders of Discordianism could see the partisan dullards waving their banner surely there would be hell to pay. But I digress.
Since you're studying the material I provided, I'd recommend reading Mencius Moldbug first -- he's easily the wittiest and most insightful writer of the group.
God I hate agreeing with the hivemind of this board but you're too easy to assault.
The "elders of discordianism" (I.e. the founders) were a group that consisted of a schizophrenic degenerate (k. Thornley), a possibly autistic unix programmer (hill) a charlatanous jew (raw) a half-black midget with kleinfelters (the mgt) and a loose throng of other such rabble...
I hardly think any of the "elders" would have any sort of agreement with you...
Roger, some images you may find pleasing.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/8669292964_304e332389_z.jpg)
(http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/4a5ccfac1b4d71add0716784b2e0c13d.jpg)
Quote from: von on September 20, 2013, 09:26:18 AM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
Roger, you're a plodder, a pedant and a dull-witted plebe. If the Elders of Discordianism could see the partisan dullards waving their banner surely there would be hell to pay. But I digress.
Since you're studying the material I provided, I'd recommend reading Mencius Moldbug first -- he's easily the wittiest and most insightful writer of the group.
God I hate agreeing with the hivemind of this board but you're too easy to assault.
The "elders of discordianism" (I.e. the founders) were a group that consisted of a schizophrenic degenerate (k. Thornley), a possibly autistic unix programmer (hill) a charlatanous jew (raw) a half-black midget with kleinfelters (the mgt) and a loose throng of other such rabble...
I hardly think any of the "elders" would have any sort of agreement with you...
Damn, I was going to stick with "asshole says what?" to every post Nihil made. Well done, Von.
also isn't the neo-nazi thing a bit too much imposition of order? I see it as a Discordian Holy Mission to fuck with their shit and make them ragefroth. the veins bulging out they shaved heads amuse me.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 07:37:07 AM
You know, Nigel will probably disagree with me, and maybe even think less of me, because I believe that it isn't morally wrong to beat the mortal shit out of fascists for any reason or no reason at all...But that's because she's a better person than me. I'm comfortable with that, because I am Cornish by descent, and we never set out to be the best human beings in the world. No, we set out to be the least successful pirates (accomplishment unlocked), world champion sheep-shaggers, and best ill-tempered, low-forehead brutes possible.
But, you know, this IS the internet, and "mortal shit-kickings" just aren't in the cards. So I shall content myself with "laughing at you", while I check to see if any of your fellow "intellectuals" post from Tucson.
I am down with direct action against fash with a boot.
I can only hope that some black bloc antifa kicks him squarely in his piggy little head, some other time.
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AWWW I MISSED IT :argh!:
Quote from: Cain on September 20, 2013, 10:57:16 AM
Mencius Moldbug's arguments are a contradictionary mish-mash of absolutist royalism, techo-anarcho-capitalism, neocameralism and pretentious imitations of Thomas Carlyle.
I suppose you're one of those special snowflakes who thinks meta-contrarianism is edgy, and because you don't have the intellectual chops to dissect a particular argument, no-one else does either :lol:
:sotw:
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Quote from: Cain on September 20, 2013, 11:50:28 AM
Brother Nihil, even von thinks you're an idiot, and he once tried to change his email address to nigger@nig.nog in a pique of butthurt.
:lulz:
I may be a huge fucknugget myself, but seriously...go read some of nihil's writing...it's the most pretentious shit I've ever read...
samples of poetry:
Quote
Bow down: I am the Emperor of Trolls
I crown me with a million-flavored spam
Of secret words unreadable and take
Their failing lies for genius when I post
Banned on a thousand web sites maybe more
The blogosphere's horizons infinite
And this...this is fantastic. A literal manifesto for our cyber-khan. Bravo mate!
Quote
Lately I've been thinking a lot about how one could go about becoming an online Mohammed or Genghis Khan – a great leader who sends forth an army of trolls to conquer web sites for the Religion and the Empire. I don't think it has been tried, but think it may be possible.
I say this because I find it quite easy to go to a web site and to begin to control the debate, stir up dissent, refute ideologies, recruit people, or otherwise manipulate the site as I see fit. Depending on the level of moderation, this may have to be done subtly, but there is always a way to counter whatever propaganda is being spread at a given site and to inject some of your own counter-propaganda. If one is clever and persistent, one should in this way be able to alter, destroy or co-opt any site according to one's agenda.
What I have in mind for the Decons of the Church of Nihil is to conduct such trolling operations in an organized and strategic manner. I would like to begin training Decons in various methods of attack trolling, memetic manipulation, social engineering, deconstruction, propaganda, etc. To do this at a high level will require people with strong writing and research skills, sophisticated philosophical knowledge, insight into human nature and an unbreakable will. If you have these qualities and are interested in joining our campaign, I encourage you to join the Galdrux and make contact with me here.
In this Age of Nihilism, the world is increasingly a wide open battleground of ideas and a war for human minds. Instead of always being reactionary and on the defensive, perhaps it's time to take the battle to the enemy and begin waging offensive jihad against all believers who haven't yet been assimilated into the Church of Nihil. Perhaps it's time we trained a vanguard of non-believers who can offer the world a simple choice: Reject false beliefs, join the Nihil Empire, or be conquered!
Now then, why would you
ever link back to a site that has shit like this (a literal manifesto on your intent to use cointelpro techniques against forums) in your forum sig? Are you fucking high? You wanna infiltrate and fuck with people? Shit motherfucker, try to lurk moar, because PD is a hard target unless you dig through 9001 pages of old threads...which are 9001 pages long themselves. Seriously, nihil, you're terrible at shilling.
Its no good infiltrating a site, if no one is there to SEE it an appreciate its covert genius.
Quote from: Faust on September 20, 2013, 12:42:00 PM
Its no good infiltrating a site, if no one is there to SEE it an appreciate its covert genius.
If I see something being covert, does it lose it's coolness factor by virtue of it no longer being covert?
Quote from: von on September 20, 2013, 12:45:35 PM
Quote from: Faust on September 20, 2013, 12:42:00 PM
Its no good infiltrating a site, if no one is there to SEE it an appreciate its covert genius.
If I see something being covert, does it lose it's coolness factor by virtue of it no longer being covert?
Yes but don't tell brother nilhill or it will break his heart.
Quote from: Faust on September 20, 2013, 12:48:28 PM
Quote from: von on September 20, 2013, 12:45:35 PM
Quote from: Faust on September 20, 2013, 12:42:00 PM
Its no good infiltrating a site, if no one is there to SEE it an appreciate its covert genius.
If I see something being covert, does it lose it's coolness factor by virtue of it no longer being covert?
Yes but don't tell brother nilhill or it will break his heart.
Well, he shouldn't have gone and told us he was from galdrux, now should he then?
anyway, I kinda feel bad for the guy. he appearently joined "anonymous" on galdrux, so now I'm picturing him firing off his little LOIC cannons at inconsequential servers under the direction of the CIA now...
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 06:47:54 AM
QuoteReactionaries often get that way because they've been mugged by life (or by divorce lawyers or by political correctness commissars or just by black men);
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Poor little manlets.
Poor little victims of equality! If only they didn't have to compete against their inferiors, they might be able to rise to the top! That's how that works, isn't it?
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 06:57:01 AM
SRS? PUA? I don't know this basement-dweller lingo. But I will say that the semi-sexual vibe I'm getting from you guys now that you have an excuse to pull out your good-guy badges is rather, shall we say, creepy?
Is it creeping you out? Enjoy it while it lasts.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
Roger, you're a plodder, a pedant and a dull-witted plebe. If the Elders of Discordianism could see the partisan dullards waving their banner surely there would be hell to pay. But I digress.
Well, shit, dude...I'm worse than THAT. I am also an over-sized freak who enjoys putting the boot on fascists. Not because I am some kind of fan of basic humanity, but because it's funny to watch "NORTHERN FREEDUM" types curl up like the sissies you are. Best part is, I'm not even particularly tough. I just won the genetic lottery on size and "mean streak", which is totally not "just" in any sense of the word, which makes it even tastier.
QuoteSince you're studying the material I provided, I'd recommend reading Mencius Moldbug first -- he's easily the wittiest and most insightful writer of the group.
Sorry, still lauging at the misogyny and racism at the link itself.
Wait. You thought I'd take this shit seriously?
:lulz:
Here's a tiny taste of douchebaggery in a nutshell: http://darkecologies.com/2013/05/22/the-neoreactionary-impulse-who-is-mencius-moldbug/
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 20, 2013, 07:50:48 AM
http://galdrux.com/user/brothernihil
CALLED IT, NIGEL!
30 year old basement dweller, wants to be a SUPERHERO! :lulz:
OH SPOT ON! :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 20, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
QuoteHere for To create an alter ego: Superhero, Supervillain, Troll, Star, New Identity., To save, conquer, troll, entertain, seduce or shock., To make friends. -
Bless his lonely heart, the nihilist just wants some friends.
There would probably have been hope if he was 12. I see a lost cause here.
I think he's too busy blaming women for his virginity and blacks for his unemployment.
I am sorry he's fucked off, and hopeful that he'll come back.
Aw man, I showed up late to the creepy poop-on-the-fascist fetish party. :sad:
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 20, 2013, 08:56:21 PM
Aw man, I showed up late to the creepy poop-on-the-fascist fetish party. :sad:
Don't worry, we'll have more!
HE CAME BACK! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I would be OK with stomping these Dark Enlightenment morons, but the impression I get is that they're doing a pretty decent job of keeping themselves ineffectual and impotent, so no need to bother.
If only women and blacks were still property, Brother Nihil would be able to get some pussy and a job. :( It is so sad for him. We should rail against this fascist system that allows women to choose who they have sex with and allows black people to get jobs that less-qualified white males might potentially be able to hold down!
Brother Nihil, the sad thing is that I've deep-dicked more vagina than you will ever hope to.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 03:34:17 AM
If only women and blacks were still property, Brother Nihil would be able to get some pussy and a job. :( It is so sad for him. We should rail against this fascist system that allows women to choose who they have sex with and allows black people to get jobs that less-qualified white males might potentially be able to hold down!
Brother Nihil, the sad thing is that I've deep-dicked more vagina than you will ever hope to.
:fap:
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
My friends, let us reflect upon this thread, and ask: what have we learned? We have seen that the fascist impulse is universal in man, that humans are always looking for an excuse to start stomping each other into the pavement. For example, this goon "Uncle Roger" has told me how physically imposing he is and admitted that he would enthusiastically stomp fascists, who are apparently his jews.
It's so sad when Nazis can be treated just like Jews. :sad:
I have figured out why BN makes me laugh so much.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 03:26:41 AM
I would be OK with stomping these Dark Enlightenment morons, but the impression I get is that they're doing a pretty decent job of keeping themselves ineffectual and impotent, so no need to bother.
Well, here's the thing. Most other ideologies in the Western world - ie, the one I live in - are content to settle their differences at the ballot box, or by some other political mechanism. The really vile ones tend to sink out of sight, even if they have an initial surge of popularity (the tea party, etc). Fascism, on the other hand, is a direct threat to the safety of those around them. They are like a rabid dog in the neighborhood, and when you see a rabid dog start to foam at the mouth, there's no sense waiting for it to attack someone. No, you just put it down.
In practical terms, this means giving fascists what THEY want to give to the Jews, the Blacks, women, etc, before they get strong enough to actually do anything. And that usually means stomping them until they find something less harmful to occupy their time with. Otherwise, you wind up having to kill them all, sooner or later, usually after they've burnt down a sizeable portion of civilization.
Best to just beat the fuck out of them while it's easy, I think.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 21, 2013, 04:26:24 AM
I'm impressed with this analysis Uncle Roger, you show a keen grasp of the fascist mind. Proactive beatings of potential enemies are always an effective way to prevent trouble. So when do you start beating up the potential fascists in your neighborhood? Maybe you can practice on yourself by kicking your own ass repeatedly with your big romper stomper boots?
I am paralyzed by the sudden suspicion that you think I'll start taking you seriously or give a fuck what you think is fair.
:lulz: <--- Nope.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 21, 2013, 04:10:05 AM
I have figured out why BN makes me laugh so much.
Is it because he makes no disguise of being a racist, sexist sack of shit?
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 21, 2013, 04:56:55 AM
My friends, good news! The always helpful Michael Anissimov has recently posted the Neoreactionary Glossary (http://www.moreright.net/neoreactionary-glossary/), which gives you a nice summary of the key memes of this exciting new intellectual movement.
Three of these four words are lies.
I hate the modern trend of tumblr-esque excessive progressivism as much as the next person with half a brain, but when it comes right down to it, neoreactionaryism sounds an awful lot like monarchism. Monarchism, like fascism and all totalitarian systems, relies on the existance of the archetypical "benevolent dictator". A society ruled by such an individual would be indeed a wonderful thing, but when it comes down to it, the ideal benevolent dictator doesn't exist.
Because of this fact, anytime you go about advocating some sort of neoreactionary bullshit, in all reality you're just playing useful idiot to another human being's ambitions to become the monarch. It's really some totally debasing shit...I mean, when it comes down to it, why would you want to subjugate yourself to nobly uplift someone who, at the end of the day, is nothing more than a simple human being? Your aristocratic class still poops, masturbates, gets old, suffers injury...they even smell bad when they fail to bathe and wake up with matted bed hair in the morning...just like you. Why would you ever advocate having aristocrats to the debasement of yourself? Rather you should be doing whatever you can to advance your own position...
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Quote*most hilarious name ever, btw. Ooh "dark". How badass
The funniest part is that the probably spent more time coming up with that name than their actual ideological "thinking". And then, when decided upon that name all agreed that it was SO COOL.
This is pretty much a textbook example of idiot groupthink.
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2013, 09:55:38 AM
That BN thinks fascism is simply a "nationalist form of socialism despised by most neoreactionaries" shows his own intellectual weakness in studying the history and alliances of fascism, and is part of a longstanding liberal conservative (ie mainstream right) project to conflate the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany in order to justify American action to contain the former.
How does it feel, being a dupe to Cold War propaganda memes? :lol:
I always wondered about that. It results in such a bizarrely skewed impression of history, that I feel like I'm looking at a Cubist painting of historical events.
I enjoy the way BN does not actually structure any arguments, but rather comes up with, uh, "snappy" and "intellectual" retorts to being called a halfwit scum-sucking fucktard and then posts links to the Big Poppa Fucktard's ramblings.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
QuoteCladistic analysis of neoreaction
"
Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction" :crankey: :mad: :mad: :mad:
http://www.xenosystems.net/cladistic-meditations/
QuoteNeoreactionaries have a thing about Puritanism. Whether or not this trait is conceptually essential is a question for another time. The important point, right now, is that it serves as a cladistic marker. Whatever it might be that neoreaction speciates into, it bears this trait as an indication of cultural ancestry, bookmarking the root-code archive of Mencius Moldbug.
When reconstructed as an argument, the Moldbuggian clade proposes a species of ethnographic categorization on a loosely Darwinian (and strongly evolutionary) model, according to which cultural phenomena are logically nested, in tree-like fashion, revealing a pattern of descent.
Oh god, it's Social Darwinism using the language of modern phylogenetic systematics. This is as shitty as the Creation Museum using the language of natural history. Makes my insides twist.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 05:45:39 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 21, 2013, 04:10:05 AM
I have figured out why BN makes me laugh so much.
Is it because he makes no disguise of being a racist, sexist sack of shit?
It's because he thinks this will be accepted as an equally-valid worldview.
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
QuoteCladistic analysis of neoreaction
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
:crankey: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I missed you, Kai. :lulz:
KAI WINS THREAD
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 21, 2013, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 05:45:39 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 21, 2013, 04:10:05 AM
I have figured out why BN makes me laugh so much.
Is it because he makes no disguise of being a racist, sexist sack of shit?
It's because he thinks this will be accepted as an equally-valid worldview.
Wow. :lol:
THE FACT THAT ANYONE OUT THERE IN THE WORLD THINKS THIS COMPLETE RAMBLING INCOHERENT NONSENSE BULLSHIT IS "INTELLECTUAL" HURTS MY FEE-FEES.
"ooooh, big words are being used... I don't really understand them but the big guys say it supports my racist, sexist agenda... this must be an intellectual revolution!"
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
QuoteCladistic analysis of neoreaction
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
:crankey: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yeah.
You pretty much summed it up.
What does it even they don't know.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
QuoteCladistic analysis of neoreaction
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
:crankey: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yeah.
You pretty much summed it up.
What does it even they don't know.
I bet this is what quantum physicists feel like all the time.
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
QuoteCladistic analysis of neoreaction
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
:crankey: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yeah.
You pretty much summed it up.
What does it even they don't know.
I bet this is what quantum physicists feel like all the time.
This makes me wonder if I subconsciously went into geology in order to save my blood pressure. When people get geology wrong, it's usually benign, not a total misappropriation of core theoretical principles. No one uses the language of Original Horizontality or the Law of Superposition to validate their pseudointellectual bullshit.
There's the whole matter of denying deep time and such, but that's just people being flat wrong, rather than abusing the language of science to build flimsy belief systems.
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
QuoteCladistic analysis of neoreaction
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
:crankey: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yeah.
You pretty much summed it up.
What does it even they don't know.
I bet this is what quantum physicists feel like all the time.
Yes. Pretty sure you're right.
They're just NO THAT'S NOT EVEN... OH I GIVE UP.
:facepalm:
ALL THE TIME.
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 21, 2013, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 20, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment
Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?
QuoteCladistic analysis of neoreaction
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"
:crankey: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yeah.
You pretty much summed it up.
What does it even they don't know.
I bet this is what quantum physicists feel like all the time.
This makes me wonder if I subconsciously went into geology in order to save my blood pressure. When people get geology wrong, it's usually benign, not a total misappropriation of core theoretical principles. No one uses the language of Original Horizontality or the Law of Superposition to validate their pseudointellectual bullshit.
There's the whole matter of denying deep time and such, but that's just people being flat wrong, rather than abusing the language of science to build flimsy belief systems.
They don't YET. Just wait until some whackadoo halfwit gets hold of the lingo and goes OH HEY THIS IS JARGON NONE OF THE OTHER WHACKADOOS ARE USING.
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2013, 09:55:38 AM
Von is 100% correct.
You might be lucky and end up with a benign monarch/dictatorship. The Enlightenment had many such benevolent rulers, so it's not impossible. I don't believe democracy is the be-all and end of political evolution, nor is it suited for every single society at this moment in time (Iraq would have been better under a benign dictatorship than a malevonent democracy, for example, until it developed a civic culture and society capable of supporting democracy. Of course, such a society was forming in the 1950s, but we stomped on it hard because it favoured the colour red).
But a non-democratic structure introduces more catastrophic points for failure. A military coup can more efficiently take over a non-democratic state than a democratic one. Far more easily, in fact. That's why you see military coups in Pakistan and Fiji with distressing frequency, but not in Finland or Holland. And that makes it far easier for some complete bastard to force their way to the top.
The "Dark Enlightenment"* weenies claim democracy is the cause of these dictators, and they have half a point. But only half. Much of the fascist reaction of the past century was aristocratic forces funding anti-Communist revolutionary movements to make up for their own loss of power. Where did Hitler's "seed money" come from? Bavarian industrialists and aristocrats who feared the Democratic Republic that was set up in the aftermath of WWI.
That BN thinks fascism is simply a "nationalist form of socialism despised by most neoreactionaries" shows his own intellectual weakness in studying the history and alliances of fascism, and is part of a longstanding liberal conservative (ie mainstream right) project to conflate the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany in order to justify American action to contain the former.
How does it feel, being a dupe to Cold War propaganda memes? :lol:
*most hilarious name ever, btw. Ooh "dark". How badass.
:facepalm:
So, basically, if this dude ever read Illuminatus!, he'd line right up behind Wilhelm, Wolfgang, Winifred, and Werner (4 of the 5 Illiminati Primii, and the members of the rock band, "The American Medical Association")?
I hit his blog for a few minutes and even found links praising one of 37's Skilluminati articles ....and was amazed that the level of cognitive dissonance went that far (Hey, BN.... multiple people here know 37, and he would mock you twice as hard as Cain has.....)
I wonder how long it took him to find this site while wandering blindly through Chapel Perilous?
(I know we've had some interesting conversations about the Chapel Perilous concept before... but I'd like to use this as a good example of why it's called PERILOUS... you could emerge in a state of totally believing in this sort of shit....)
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Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 21, 2013, 05:46:16 AM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 21, 2013, 04:56:55 AM
My friends, good news! The always helpful Michael Anissimov has recently posted the Neoreactionary Glossary (http://www.moreright.net/neoreactionary-glossary/), which gives you a nice summary of the key memes of this exciting new intellectual movement.
Three of these four words are lies.
"exciting new intellectual" is their term for bowel
I just hit up that dark cult name generator. Check out some of these gems:
The Shadow Lords of the Solar Throne (How is that.... what...)
The Satanic Star Sorcerers :lulz:
The Shamans of Magic :lulz: :lulz: are there other kinds of non-magical shamans?
The Yellow Wizards (They're skeered.)
The Disciples of the Dark Demon (Sounds like a cheesy metal album, complete with humorously unoriginal artwork)
The Circle of the Galactic Sun (what does that even mean?)
The Order of Satan (sounds pretty generic. Like Church of God)
The Church of Dark Energy
The Academy of Imperial Satan
The Solar Legion of Satanic Science
The Society of Dark Energy
The Black Sorcerers of Sorcery (not affiliated with the Shamans of Magic)
The New Vampires (Darkly Sparkly?)
:lulz:
I just realized something. He distinctly referred to academia as the Cathedral, and I feel like I used that same concept in my In Those Days who knows how many years ago.
ETA: Indeed. http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24465.0 I like mine better.
Quote from: Cain on September 20, 2013, 11:50:28 AM
Brother Nihil, even von thinks you're an idiot, and he once tried to change his email address to nigger@nig.nog in a pique of butthurt.
:lulz:
Oh damn, I'd forgotten about that! :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on September 21, 2013, 09:55:38 AM
Von is 100% correct.
You might be lucky and end up with a benign monarch/dictatorship. The Enlightenment had many such benevolent rulers, so it's not impossible. I don't believe democracy is the be-all and end of political evolution, nor is it suited for every single society at this moment in time (Iraq would have been better under a benign dictatorship than a malevonent democracy, for example, until it developed a civic culture and society capable of supporting democracy. Of course, such a society was forming in the 1950s, but we stomped on it hard because it favoured the colour red).
But a non-democratic structure introduces more catastrophic points for failure. A military coup can more efficiently take over a non-democratic state than a democratic one. Far more easily, in fact. That's why you see military coups in Pakistan and Fiji with distressing frequency, but not in Finland or Holland. And that makes it far easier for some complete bastard to force their way to the top.
The "Dark Enlightenment"* weenies claim democracy is the cause of these dictators, and they have half a point. But only half. Much of the fascist reaction of the past century was aristocratic forces funding anti-Communist revolutionary movements to make up for their own loss of power. Where did Hitler's "seed money" come from? Bavarian industrialists and aristocrats who feared the Democratic Republic that was set up in the aftermath of WWI.
That BN thinks fascism is simply a "nationalist form of socialism despised by most neoreactionaries" shows his own intellectual weakness in studying the history and alliances of fascism, and is part of a longstanding liberal conservative (ie mainstream right) project to conflate the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany in order to justify American action to contain the former.
How does it feel, being a dupe to Cold War propaganda memes? :lol:
*most hilarious name ever, btw. Ooh "dark". How badass.
I do love when Cain puts a smackdown on morons who think they're intellectual and politically smrt.
Preliminary assessment: BN is weak and dumb, or, HE CANNAE HANDLE MORE, CAPTAIN! I'll leave you all to it, and enjoy from the sidelines. :)
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Brave enough to be Nazis! :banana:
:lulz:
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Or that's just what we WANT you to think.
Just like you only WANT us to think that Dark Enlightenment is thinly-veiled white male fear politics couched in postmodern-y wank language and pseudoscience. I'm sure you're actually all brilliant blokes underneath all that cruft.
You play your gambit, and we'll play ours.
How come every person or organization that advertizes itself as "free thinking" is just another douchenozzle cult?
Seriously. You have the HFT crowd, who ALSO rant about the dangers of the NWO (plus, of course, the dangers of modern medicine, etc).
Then you have these assmonkeys, who believe that free thinking is best represented by the idea of slapping women down, and by putting all the darkies in their place.
So, "free thinking" equals the same tired shit, a arse boil of wounded White male privilege, and the whining of manlets who are afraid to compete without slapping restrictions on something like 75% of humanity.
Fascists are always, at heart, cowards. In case you couldn't tell.
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Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
As I said earlier, I used it better. Also, you had me at "cladistic analysis of neorectionaries". That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.[/Montoya] :kingmeh:
~Kai,
Is sick of these fascists misusing systematics already.
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QuoteTestimonial - Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Ask anyone here, I'm probably the farthest thing from believing in the memes ported around by what you're calling "the cathedral"...or even those memes ported about by the members of the community in general.
I simply think your Moldbugs and weird assholes with Russian names are spouting half-baked ideologies that advocate having a central authority (among other things)...I don't particularly like this idea, and I think it has some pretty objective flaws within it, both on a systemic level and on a "how it relates to my own self interest" level.
On a further note, your use of language is an eyesore. You have this whole air of trying to sound like some sort of pseudo-mystic wizardfag, and frankly, such diction is easy to dismiss because of the terribly laughable way in which it presents itself. I mean seriously, I would respect you alot more if you were to bluntly tell me "hey, this social justice faggotry is retarded for {reason X}, democracy is fucking stupid for {reason Y} and I think centralised authority organised from a tribal ethos would be a much more expident system because of {elucidiation A} and this can be verified with {citation}".
Instead, you crump about with mystic shit like "the endarkening" (seriously, this is a fucking stupid term...why the fuck would you ever use this word in the context of trying to make people believe you?) and "the redpill movement" (if you look really deep into this shit, btw, you'll find that it's quite literally a 4chan meme concerning how cultural marxism is being foisted upon the west by the jews in order to destroy the white race...really then) and then when pressed, you avoid citing your reasons for believing certain things or you change the subject entirely.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Um, monarchism's been done.
Quote from: von on September 22, 2013, 07:59:15 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Ask anyone here, I'm probably the farthest thing from believing in the memes ported around by what you're calling "the cathedral"...or even those memes ported about by the members of the community in general.
I simply think your Moldbugs and weird assholes with Russian names are spouting half-baked ideologies that advocate having a central authority (among other things)...I don't particularly like this idea, and I think it has some pretty objective flaws within it, both on a systemic level and on a "how it relates to my own self interest" level.
On a further note, your use of language is an eyesore. You have this whole air of trying to sound like some sort of pseudo-mystic wizardfag, and frankly, such diction is easy to dismiss because of the terribly laughable way in which it presents itself. I mean seriously, I would respect you alot more if you were to bluntly tell me "hey, this social justice faggotry is retarded for {reason X}, democracy is fucking stupid for {reason Y} and I think centralised authority organised from a tribal ethos would be a much more expident system because of {elucidiation A} and this can be verified with {citation}".
Instead, you crump about with mystic shit like "the endarkening" (seriously, this is a fucking stupid term...why the fuck would you ever use this word in the context of trying to make people believe you?) and "the redpill movement" (if you look really deep into this shit, btw, you'll find that it's quite literally a 4chan meme concerning how cultural marxism is being foisted upon the west by the jews in order to destroy the white race...really then) and then when pressed, you avoid citing your reasons for believing certain things or you change the subject entirely.
:potd:
Quote from: President Television on September 22, 2013, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Um, monarchism's been done.
This whole idea of "neither chosing white nor black" rings very much of National Socialism in my ears in the sense that it is neither "the old way" or "communism"...just like what dear old uncle Adolph was going on about back when he was running for the chancellory.
Quote from: von on September 22, 2013, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: President Television on September 22, 2013, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Um, monarchism's been done.
This whole idea of "neither chosing white nor black" rings very much of National Socialism in my ears in the sense that it is neither "the old way" or "communism"...just like what dear old uncle Adolph was going on about back when he was running for the chancellory.
He never ran for chancellor. He was appointed by Hindenberg.
But other than that, yes.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
Failing to acknowledge boxes is the easiest way to get trapped in the box of "controlled opposition". Fuck the redpill...neo failed to leave the matrix m8. tfw you're neo.
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It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
People in the cathedral, as well as "neoreactionaries" are both controlled opposition. They are both highly predictable and are undoubtedly highly compromised. Go look into both what happened with the occupy movement and with the militia movement. One is very much "cathedral" while the other could be said to be a collection of ethno-nationalists afraid of losing their rights to the brown masses...and both of them were infiltrated and thoroughly raped by the government.
If one or the other were in tune with the establishment, why did they both get attacked?
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Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
More pseudo-mystic word games. If I wanted that, I'd go read a D&D manual or K&R's ANSI C book. Those have more relevant info in them.
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What if anything does that have to do with the Golden Dawn not wanting, blacks, hippies, homosexuals or foreigners in Greece?
What is counter culture about that mentality?
Also if you choose to respond to that, please don't tar and feather me as either a leftist or neoliberal.
-Totalitarian Faust
I do not want the drugs BN is selling.
Seriously, dude, I had to argue down a GMOS WILL INFECT US ALL bleeding heart moron last week, and you are literally the craziest person I've ever met outside a locked ward.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.
The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power, as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at. The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them. Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral, and we will. Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness the power of language and ideas to not only destroy the Cathedral, but to construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures, narratives and culture.
The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.
:lolchix:
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.
You know that the guy who mentioned uncle adolph is actually is in disrepute with this community for referring to one of its respected members as a mulatto welfare queen, being an autistic pedant, and for generally being a bootstrapping, racist privledged libertarian white male, right?
If
I'm the person who used the term "uncle adolph" is a leftist, then roger is an anorexic african-american genderqueer with a penchant for smoking crack cocaine.
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The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power
Granted. However, it's pretty clear that the community has come to the conclusion that your movement is associated with these terms. Why don't you actually
explain your movement in clear terms and correct us in our errors concerning our opinion on your ideals?
Quote...as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at.
pseudo-mystic babble. what have I already said about the relation between this sort of talk and credibility. there are more grounded terms to use than "black magical incantations"...shit, cite godwin's law and say we made an argumentum ad hitlerum too quickly...that at least sounds like it has less cheese on it.
QuoteThe beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them.
Leftist/pseudo-progressivism uses the victem complex in order to ensnare people into a cult of "I'm opressed, you should feel bad" by stroking this victem complex and giving them cookies for whatever weird fetish or other crutch they have...
...by the same token, however, ("neo")reactionary movements stroke the ego of the people within the status quo by essentially pointing out that "the other" aims to take away their status (however low it may be) and by making appeals to collective acheivements of "the folk", "the race", "your kings" or appealing to things like "your individual soverignty", when in reality, it's just a way to make a filthy plebian "sign on" to the movement by making him feel associated with an "elite" by tenuous ties (again, such as race, history, collective motivation in "individualism"/"liberty" etc)
In short, both sides of the field pitch bullshit in order to make people sign up to "the movement". This is what I meant earlier with my shit about controlled opposition. Progressivist degenerates and Moldbuggian untermenschen alike are both full of shit, and it's literally just to make you feel like you should sign on to one "cause" or another...
QuoteOur memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral.
"memomancer" -- more pseudo-mystic shit. By etymology this should mean "communicates with memes"...I do this everyday on 4chan...
still, you should reconsider what words you use...it hurts your credibility to sound like a dumbass.
QuoteSince progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness language and ideas to construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures and culture.
If you're going to construct a whole new alt. civilisation, I say shit or get off the pot. I know of many such organisations in TOR that would love someone to pitch ideas for their subversion of the modern state-centered world. Unfortunately, I'm sure a bunch of crypto-anarchists would have nothing to do with pseudo-monarchism. Distributism is more their game...
QuoteThe key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including the religion of progress. Progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.
This reminds me of how I though about a week after I read Heinlein's starship troopers. "Might makes right", "the only law is the law of physics"...well, the cathedral currently holds the status quo on that, so let's be glad they haven't decided to outright nuke the neoreactionaries out of existance with the orbital arm of his holiness's nuclear-mechanical military.
Seriously, if this is your case, the cathedral holds the monopoly on violence at the moment and it's by sheer luck that they have the grace to not genocide the entire lot of their opponents off the board...one should consider this.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.
The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power, as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at. The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them. Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral, and we will. Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness the power of language and ideas to not only destroy the Cathedral, but to construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures, narratives and culture.
The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.
And you still haven't refuted my point. It's been done. What's new? What are you bringing to the table that hasn't already failed? I'm tired of all the rhetoric. What's your model? What's your goal, and how do you intend to achieve it? You continually imply that our current opposition to the old bigotries is nothing more than a product of leftist propaganda, but on the basis of what evidence do you believe this? If smudgy people are truly inferior, I want proof. If women are truly inferior, I want proof. Anti-ideology cuts both ways.
Quote from: von on September 22, 2013, 07:59:15 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Ask anyone here, I'm probably the farthest thing from believing in the memes ported around by what you're calling "the cathedral"...or even those memes ported about by the members of the community in general.
I simply think your Moldbugs and weird assholes with Russian names are spouting half-baked ideologies that advocate having a central authority (among other things)...I don't particularly like this idea, and I think it has some pretty objective flaws within it, both on a systemic level and on a "how it relates to my own self interest" level.
On a further note, your use of language is an eyesore. You have this whole air of trying to sound like some sort of pseudo-mystic wizardfag, and frankly, such diction is easy to dismiss because of the terribly laughable way in which it presents itself. I mean seriously, I would respect you alot more if you were to bluntly tell me "hey, this social justice faggotry is retarded for {reason X}, democracy is fucking stupid for {reason Y} and I think centralised authority organised from a tribal ethos would be a much more expident system because of {elucidiation A} and this can be verified with {citation}".
Instead, you crump about with mystic shit like "the endarkening" (seriously, this is a fucking stupid term...why the fuck would you ever use this word in the context of trying to make people believe you?) and "the redpill movement" (if you look really deep into this shit, btw, you'll find that it's quite literally a 4chan meme concerning how cultural marxism is being foisted upon the west by the jews in order to destroy the white race...really then) and then when pressed, you avoid citing your reasons for believing certain things or you change the subject entirely.
:lulz: All right, taking you off ignore. This kind of shit is worth reading.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them.
:scared:
Can someone start a pention?
I'll bite...
BN,
Thank you for providing your handy-dandy glossary. I am hoping it will aid this discussion.
Just to clarify my understanding of your position, I would be grateful if you could answer some questions which I will get to in a minute. Before that though, I would like to begin with this 'Cathedral' notion.
For anyone who didn't click the glossary link, here's the definition:
The Cathedral — The self-organizing consensus of Progressives and Progressive ideology represented by the universities, the media, and the civil service. A term coined by blogger Mencius Moldbug. The Cathedral has no central administrator, but represents a consensus acting as a coherent group that condemns other ideologies as evil. Community writers have enumerated the platform of Progressivism as women's suffrage, prohibition, abolition, federal income tax, democratic election of senators, labor laws, desegregation, popularization of drugs, destruction of traditional sexual norms, ethnic studies courses in colleges, decolonization, and gay marriage. A defining feature of Progressivism is that "you believe that morality has been essentially solved, and all that's left is to work out the details." Reactionaries see Republicans as Progressives, just lagging 10-20 years behind Democrats in their adoption of Progressive norms.
Ok good. So the 'progessives' who comprise 'the Cathedral' have, apparently a platform that is in favor of 'women's suffrage, prohibition, abolition, federal income tax, democratic election of senators, labor laws, desegregation, popularization of drugs, destruction of traditional sexual norms, ethnic studies courses in colleges, decolonization and gay marriage.'
Let's begin with this little list. I understand that you didn't write this list yourself, but you did ask us to look at it because it is, presumably, representative of your world view.
Women's suffrage.
1) Are you personally suggesting that women shouldn't vote? If yes, do you express this opinion to your mother? (or any other significant female person in your life?). If so, with what degree of success have you convinced them to refrain from active participation in the political process?
Prohibition
I'm assuming here (and please correct me if I'm wrong), that this refers to prohibition of drugs? That being the case, do you believe that all drugs should be legal? If this is about some other type of prohibition, please elaborate.
Federal income tax
Have you personally paid for absolutely everything in your life and never once utilized any benefit, privilege or facility that is funded by federal taxes?
Democratic election of senators
I have to admit, I'm a little confused here. Is the issue just about women electing senators or is a broader issue of anyone electing senators?
Labor Laws
I don't know what you do for work. I'll tell you what I do. I'm self-employed and work in the health care field. I split my time between my own business as a bodyworker and I do administrative work for a local chiropractor. Because of labor laws, both myself and the doctor have to have licenses under the department of health. It shows that we've received training to execute our respective jobs safely on the public. Is that problematic for you? Similarly, labor laws stop kids being exploited in sweat shops, people being harassed, unfairly dismissed etc. Let's pretend that in a post-Cathedral world, your new boss has decided that on the basis of your gender/skin/color/belief system etc that you are entirely unfit for promotion, even though you are clearly good at your job. But wait, there's an exception! If you agree to fuck your new boss in the supply cupboard, you might be in for a shot at a pay rise. Is it fair for me to assume that you'd be completely cool and ok with this scenario?
Desegregation
Are you proposing that America returns to segregation? If so, am I correct in assuming that your idea of segregation entails white people get all the good stuff and all non-whites getting all the crappy stuff? In times to come, being of white, Western European extraction will be a minority feature. Where would you like the new Latino & Asian majorities to put you exactly? Back of the bus? A reservation somewhere? Or will you secretly hope they don't notice you?
Destruction of traditional sexual norms
Please explain what you think constitute 'traditional sexual norms.'
Ethnic study courses in colleges
Well, last I looked, taking such classes are optional and not mandatory. Simple answer. Don't take that class.
Decolonization
I was born in a commonwealth country (Canada) and then spent much of my life in the United Kingdom which, back in the day, was at the center of a sizeable empire that included colonies...like....uhh...well...America. When a bunch of angry 21st century red coats show up, are you going to welcome them?
Gay marriage
Odd thing to be worried about. If you're not gay, then you can't get gay married. If you are gay, you don't have to get married.
Over to you, sir if you care to indulge me. Please note, that I've written in what I believe to be fairly clear, jargon-free English. If you want people to listen to you, take you seriously and engage in some sort of discussion, then may I politely recommend that you do likewise? Otherwise it just looks like this:
Due to the ultra-magnetic retromingent solar-phallic industrial complex, the concomitant nexus of qlipphotic forces have placed us at a peculiar juncture within the current socio-histrionic milieu. Subsequently, the crypto-facist substratum is de-equilibriated in favor of a greater hegemony.
My years at PD.com have taught me that the posters here have large vocabularies. It's neither big nor clever when used as a substitute for substance.
Reading over the cathedral definition...
how does the progressive platform support both prohibition and popularization of drugs?
Quote from: von on September 23, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
Reading over the cathedral definition...
how does the progressive platform support both prohibition and popularization of drugs?
Actually, that one sort of makes sense if you ignore the "progressive" bit. Cain posted in Roger's thread not long ago about the benefits various branches of the US government gain from drug-smuggling operations: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,35418.msg1296536.html#msg1296536
Regardless, Nihil's whole ideology trips over its own feet everywhere else.
You missed abolition. That's in there.
Quote from: President Television on September 23, 2013, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: von on September 23, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
Reading over the cathedral definition...
how does the progressive platform support both prohibition and popularization of drugs?
Actually, that one sort of makes sense if you ignore the "progressive" bit. Cain posted in Roger's thread not long ago about the benefits various branches of the US government gain from drug-smuggling operations: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,35418.msg1296536.html#msg1296536
Regardless, Nihil's whole ideology trips over its own feet everywhere else.
I have a feeling nihil's gonna seize on this point in order to endarken us to the fact that the evil CIA is in cahoots with the progressive movement and the NWO...assuming he even returns.
Endarken. The more I hear that word, the more I think of the dwarves in Discworld.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 23, 2013, 01:56:19 AM
You missed abolition. That's in there.
That's just precious.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 23, 2013, 01:56:19 AM
You missed abolition. That's in there.
But just imagine the benefits of slavery+monarchism.
Under liberal democracy, it took us centuries to reach the moon, and even after we did, getting to mars has been terribly difficult because we have to democratically allocate funding to develop new propulsion technologies etc in that endeavour...
...imagine how quickly we could get into space colonisation if we had a king who one day demanded we get on with it! And without all of those pesky abolitionists, we could have 9001 slaves simply drag a space craft into orbit manually without all of that pesky R&D cost that it takes since we can't use slaves but rather must rely on puny rocketry.
Oh god
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 23, 2013, 01:56:19 AM
You missed abolition. That's in there.
Shit! And its such a doozy too. I was going to ask if he wanted slavery reinstated and, if so, which people does he think are suitable candidates for a life of servitude.
Sorry about that, everyone. Mrs Mang distracted me mid post with coffee and home made apple pie.
Mang'
Quote from: Mangrove on September 23, 2013, 03:26:11 AM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 23, 2013, 01:56:19 AM
You missed abolition. That's in there.
Shit! And its such a doozy too. I was going to ask if he wanted slavery reinstated and, if so, which people does he think are suitable candidates for a life of servitude.
Sorry about that, everyone. Mrs Mang distracted me mid post with coffee and home made apple pie.
Mang'
That's a pretty legit distraction, can't fault you there. :lol:
MY FRIENDS, GOOD NEWS. I CAN FIND ISOMORPHISMS BETWEEN YOUR RESPONSES AND TROPES I HAVE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED, REFUTED TO MY SATISFACTION AND LABELLED "LEFTIST LIES" ALLOWING ME TO EFFICIENTLY EVADE ANY ATTEMPT AT CRITICISING MY POSITION.
WHEN A NEOREACTIONARY SEES THE BARS TO HIS BLACK IRON PRISON, HE IDENTIFIES FLAWS IN THE METALS AND STRIKES PRECISELY TO BREAK FREE FROM THE TRAP OF CONSENSUS REALITY AND SEMANTICS THEN HE SENDS A MESSENGER TO THE MEMEFORGE TO INSTRUCT THE MIND-DWARVES TO MAN THE BELLOWS AND BREATHE LIFE BACK INTO THE HEARTH OF MEMETICS.
OUR SOLDIERS MARCH WITH THEIR SCABBARDS FULL OF NARRATIVES, CULTUREBOMBS STRAPPED TO THEIR BANDOLIERS.
AND DON'T YOU THINK FOR A SECOND THAT I'M USING THIS OBSCURE PSUEDOMYSTIC MISINTERPRETATION OF REALITY TO SHIELD MY FLAWED BELIEFS FROM THE CRITICISMS OF THOSE WHO, IF I SHARED A LANGUAGE WITH THEM, MIGHT SEEK TO DISABUSE ME OF MY BELIEF THAT DICTIONARIES ARE SPELLBOOKS, INSTEAD ALLOWING ME TO MAINTAIN THE ILLUSION OF SUPERIORITY WHICH GETS ME THROUGH THE DAY - A DAY I OTHERWISE MAKE NO MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE WORLD WITH.
:magick:
Quote from: Pæs on September 23, 2013, 05:23:05 AM
MY FRIENDS, GOOD NEWS. I CAN FIND ISOMORPHISMS BETWEEN YOUR RESPONSES AND TROPES I HAVE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED, REFUTED TO MY SATISFACTION AND LABELLED "LEFTIST LIES" ALLOWING ME TO EFFICIENTLY EVADE ANY ATTEMPT AT CRITICISING MY POSITION.
WHEN A NEOREACTIONARY SEES THE BARS TO HIS BLACK IRON PRISON, HE IDENTIFIES FLAWS IN THE METALS AND STRIKES PRECISELY TO BREAK FREE FROM THE TRAP OF CONSENSUS REALITY AND SEMANTICS THEN HE SENDS A MESSENGER TO THE MEMEFORGE TO INSTRUCT THE MIND-DWARVES TO MAN THE BELLOWS AND BREATHE LIFE BACK INTO THE HEARTH OF MEMETICS.
OUR SOLDIERS MARCH WITH THEIR SCABBARDS FULL OF NARRATIVES, CULTUREBOMBS STRAPPED TO THEIR BANDOLIERS.
AND DON'T YOU THINK FOR A SECOND THAT I'M USING THIS OBSCURE PSUEDOMYSTIC MISINTERPRETATION OF REALITY TO SHIELD MY FLAWED BELIEFS FROM THE CRITICISMS OF THOSE WHO, IF I SHARED A LANGUAGE WITH THEM, MIGHT SEEK TO DISABUSE ME OF MY BELIEF THAT DICTIONARIES ARE SPELLBOOKS, INSTEAD ALLOWING ME TO MAINTAIN THE ILLUSION OF SUPERIORITY WHICH GETS ME THROUGH THE DAY - A DAY I OTHERWISE MAKE NO MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE WORLD WITH.
:magick:
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Pæs on September 23, 2013, 05:23:05 AM
MY FRIENDS, GOOD NEWS. I CAN FIND ISOMORPHISMS BETWEEN YOUR RESPONSES AND TROPES I HAVE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED, REFUTED TO MY SATISFACTION AND LABELLED "LEFTIST LIES" ALLOWING ME TO EFFICIENTLY EVADE ANY ATTEMPT AT CRITICISING MY POSITION.
WHEN A NEOREACTIONARY SEES THE BARS TO HIS BLACK IRON PRISON, HE IDENTIFIES FLAWS IN THE METALS AND STRIKES PRECISELY TO BREAK FREE FROM THE TRAP OF CONSENSUS REALITY AND SEMANTICS THEN HE SENDS A MESSENGER TO THE MEMEFORGE TO INSTRUCT THE MIND-DWARVES TO MAN THE BELLOWS AND BREATHE LIFE BACK INTO THE HEARTH OF MEMETICS.
OUR SOLDIERS MARCH WITH THEIR SCABBARDS FULL OF NARRATIVES, CULTUREBOMBS STRAPPED TO THEIR BANDOLIERS.
AND DON'T YOU THINK FOR A SECOND THAT I'M USING THIS OBSCURE PSUEDOMYSTIC MISINTERPRETATION OF REALITY TO SHIELD MY FLAWED BELIEFS FROM THE CRITICISMS OF THOSE WHO, IF I SHARED A LANGUAGE WITH THEM, MIGHT SEEK TO DISABUSE ME OF MY BELIEF THAT DICTIONARIES ARE SPELLBOOKS, INSTEAD ALLOWING ME TO MAINTAIN THE ILLUSION OF SUPERIORITY WHICH GETS ME THROUGH THE DAY - A DAY I OTHERWISE MAKE NO MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE WORLD WITH.
:magick:
:mittens: :potd:
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.
The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power, as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at. The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them. Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral, and we will. Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness the power of language and ideas to not only destroy the Cathedral, but construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures, narratives and culture.
The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.
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This is like fucking Christmas in September...A Pagan AND a Nazi!
I think the time has come to request a thread split, there's still some interesting shit going on in Greece, but I too, wish to keep laughing at the Nazi who thinks vocabulary is an acceptable substitute for common sense.
Anyway, Greece:
Hopefully this is the start of a bigger backlash. It's going to be worth watching the police response over the next few weeks, I think you'll see examples of just how strong the support has been built into the force.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/pavlos-fyssas-funeral-demonstration-nikaia-athens
QuoteKostas, a 66-year-old who's been living in Nikaia for the past 45 years, told me, "That kid's death has got people worried – loads are scared of what will happen to the area, but we all need to keep calm. Our choices make up who we are. We need to think carefully to address the viciousness of the Golden Dawn."
Pixie can have a thread split whenever she wants it, just like always. Otherwise, just keep posting, and I'll sift everything out when the time comes.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.
Why the fuck do I need the universe to back me up in my decision to not be a complete shitstain?
Quote from: President Television on September 23, 2013, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: von on September 23, 2013, 01:43:01 AM
Reading over the cathedral definition...
how does the progressive platform support both prohibition and popularization of drugs?
Actually, that one sort of makes sense if you ignore the "progressive" bit. Cain posted in Roger's thread not long ago about the benefits various branches of the US government gain from drug-smuggling operations: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,35418.msg1296536.html#msg1296536
Regardless, Nihil's whole ideology trips over its own feet everywhere else.
Well, the thing to remember is that Brother Nihil is a DUMBASS. And why is he a DUMBASS? Because he views freedom as external. He can't be "free" unless other people are subjugated (Blacks, women, etc), because he can only view his "freedom" in terms relative to OTHER PEOPLE. This is why reactionaries, Nazis, fascists, etc are so fucking stupid...To them, freedom is a zero sum game, and for them to win, someone must lose.
Compare this to Martin Luther King, Jr, who found freedom in a Birmingham jail cell, or Mohammad Ali, who found freedom blaring his contempt at a federal judge and Howard Cosell. Or Patrick Henry, who shoved his head in a noose, more or less, to tell King George III where to fucking get off.
Or Ralph Waldo Emerson. Or Eugene Debs..."As long as any man is unjustly imprisoned, I am not free". Or Ben Franklin. Or Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Lucretia Mott - women Nihil would hate, if he knew who they fucking were. John Stuart Mill. The great Lysander Spooner. The list goes on and on.
These people understood freedom. A fascist is incapable of doing the same, by the very nature of their beliefs.
Another reason he is a DUMBASS: He has a problem with the left. So he runs far right to "counter" this problem.
Let's unpack that shit, shall we?
My drinking glass is full of battery acid. Obviously, I should pour soda ash into it. This will make the water drinkable, by neutralizing the acid.
Problem: STILL FUCKING POISONOUS.
And the HILARIOUS thing is, in the SAME BREATH, he says "I have to be 'neoreactionary' to counter the left" right along side "Pick no side, smash the fucking thing." It's almost like he had the beginning of a good idea (no side), and then his programming kicked in, and he was forced to stick to one side of the coin.
And there it is...Just another tragic victim of teabaggerism, seeking to smash The Machine™ by joining it and playing by its rules. Because "DUMBASS".
Last thing...I am stating that there is no liberalism in the current US government. By this I mean classic liberalism (the shit BN hates). What you have is GOP-flavored statism and Democrat-flavored statism. Alongside of this, you have a smattering of Rand Paul fascism in a funny dress.
Liberalism was slain by the two world wars, though it staggered on and didn't actually puke and die until 1980...And if anyone thinks that Obama and the dems in the senate are liberal, I invite you to compare their beliefs and behavior to Ronald Reagan. The Gipper would have looked at them in abject horror, as a gross parody of his own beliefs.
Amen to that.
I never understood the "Obama is super liberal" line. He's center-right, at the least.
Ah, Overton Window. Is there nothing you can't re-frame?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 23, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
Amen to that.
I never understood the "Obama is super liberal" line. He's center-right, at the least.
Ah, Overton Window. Is there nothing you can't re-frame?
Center-right, my ass. He's a wholly-owned subsidiary of Goldman-Sachs. He has the political
views of
an anvil Roy Cohn, but the political
acumen of a weasel with paint stripper on its teats.
ETA: Fixed.
In fact, it occurs to me that Barack Obama is basically Bill Clinton with an 11 button.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 23, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
Amen to that.
I never understood the "Obama is super liberal" line. He's center-right, at the least.
Ah, Overton Window. Is there nothing you can't re-frame?
Yeah but he's BLACK, which makes him an abolitionist, and also he's pro-suffrage and integration, which means he's just another tool of the CATHEDRAL, MAN.
The only way to be really counter-culture is to not give a shit about human rights. It's real edgy and cool.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 23, 2013, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 23, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
Amen to that.
I never understood the "Obama is super liberal" line. He's center-right, at the least.
Ah, Overton Window. Is there nothing you can't re-frame?
Yeah but he's BLACK, which makes him an abolitionist, and also he's pro-suffrage and integration, which means he's just another tool of the CATHEDRAL, MAN.
The only way to be really counter-culture is to not give a shit about human rights. It's real edgy and cool.
And that's basically the heart of it, isn't it? People in Brother Nihil's age bracket have finally figured out how to piss their parents off...By becoming fascist shitbags.
30 year old teenager, ITT.
Also, Nigel...What is the primary function of The Machine™, with respect to humans?
Oh, yeah. To get them to not care.
Quote from: von on September 22, 2013, 07:59:15 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 07:33:09 PM
Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")
Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the table and create a whole new game.
Ask anyone here, I'm probably the farthest thing from believing in the memes ported around by what you're calling "the cathedral"...or even those memes ported about by the members of the community in general.
I simply think your Moldbugs and weird assholes with Russian names are spouting half-baked ideologies that advocate having a central authority (among other things)...I don't particularly like this idea, and I think it has some pretty objective flaws within it, both on a systemic level and on a "how it relates to my own self interest" level.
On a further note, your use of language is an eyesore. You have this whole air of trying to sound like some sort of pseudo-mystic wizardfag, and frankly, such diction is easy to dismiss because of the terribly laughable way in which it presents itself. I mean seriously, I would respect you alot more if you were to bluntly tell me "hey, this social justice faggotry is retarded for {reason X}, democracy is fucking stupid for {reason Y} and I think centralised authority organised from a tribal ethos would be a much more expident system because of {elucidiation A} and this can be verified with {citation}".
Instead, you crump about with mystic shit like "the endarkening" (seriously, this is a fucking stupid term...why the fuck would you ever use this word in the context of trying to make people believe you?) and "the redpill movement" (if you look really deep into this shit, btw, you'll find that it's quite literally a 4chan meme concerning how cultural marxism is being foisted upon the west by the jews in order to destroy the white race...really then) and then when pressed, you avoid citing your reasons for believing certain things or you change the subject entirely.
Just saying, but you are otherwise correct.
I mean, this guy is after all advocating the idea that advocating a central authority to think for you to counteract the disease of liberalism is somehow freethinking.
I'll freely admit that I'm a liberal. But I don't agree with all liberals all the time. This place made me change my mind on some aspects of the neverending gun debate (however, I still recognize that under current conditions I will never have any need for a gun, and the concept of having it for protection against my fellow citizens or a tyrannical government are completely absurd).
Also there is nothing rational about reactionism. They're pretty much the opposite of each other. Rationalizing only comes in to excuse the clearly wrong assumptions already made, which is a misuse of logic.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.
The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power, as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at. The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them. Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral, and we will. Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness the power of language and ideas to not only destroy the Cathedral, but construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures, narratives and culture.
The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.
You're forgetting about another aspect of the universe:
Evolution. Thing is, we're made from atoms, but those atoms and void, but the patterns that our atoms create are different than the dead atoms that make up everything else that is not life. While it is true that the human is instinctually an aggressive and self-serving organism that desires power for easier access to resources and therefore an edge in competition, it is also true that our altruism and
cooperation have directly lead to our dominating this planet, or indeed, developing a mode of communication to allow you to expose us to your pseudo-intellectual wankery.
And here's the thing about wankery. It satisfies your reproductive urge, but at the end of the day, you still don't have any offspring.
(Edit in bold. I'm still getting the hang of editing mid thought)
Quote from: Twigel on September 23, 2013, 07:13:24 PM
And here's the thing about wankery. It satisfies your reproductive urge, but at the end of the day, you still don't have any offspring.
:potd:
Quote from: President Television on September 22, 2013, 11:17:44 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 22, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
Nice work friends, so far I've heard "Nazi", "fascist", "National Socialist", "uncle Adolph" and the always difficult to refute "white male" -- all the garden-variety leftist mind-killers.
The point is you are using these words as tools of propaganda and power, as black magical incantations to control debate, an art the Cathedralists excel at. The beauty of neoreaction is that it turns the tables on leftists by using their own methods against them. Our memomancers and word wizards can just as easily invent words and memes and use them to restructure people's minds and deconstruct the Cathedral, and we will. Since progressivism is essentially degenerate Protestantism (not Catholicism!) which rests on a foundation of nothing, deconstructing it is about the easiest thing in the world. The Dark Enlightenment will harness the power of language and ideas to not only destroy the Cathedral, but to construct an entire alternative civilization, with its own institutions, ideologies, power structures, narratives and culture.
The key point which progressives seem unable to grasp is that in a universe made of atoms and the void, no set of values is sacred, including their religion of progress. Faith in progress is the dominant religion of our time, the linchpin of the entire Cathedral memeplex, so we will attack it relentlessly. I differ from many neoreactionaries in that I would prefer anarchy to any form of government, but I side with them because I agree that the destruction of the Cathedral is the first task of all freedom-loving people in this age.
And you still haven't refuted my point. It's been done. What's new? What are you bringing to the table that hasn't already failed? I'm tired of all the rhetoric. What's your model? What's your goal, and how do you intend to achieve it? You continually imply that our current opposition to the old bigotries is nothing more than a product of leftist propaganda, but on the basis of what evidence do you believe this? If smudgy people are truly inferior, I want proof. If women are truly inferior, I want proof. Anti-ideology cuts both ways.
Monarchy is a model older than history. Used to be back in the day that you'd get a usurper, and it would be the same model. Then we had some progress, which Nihil clearly hates, and we realized that there were alternate models. Models that were not perfect but preferable, since the people in general were content. Conservativism, by definition, produces no new ideas. It's all the way things were and the good old days nonsense, forgetting that things aren't the way they used to be because they didn't really work in the first place.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 23, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: Twigel on September 23, 2013, 07:13:24 PM
And here's the thing about wankery. It satisfies your reproductive urge, but at the end of the day, you still don't have any offspring.
:potd:
:thanks:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 23, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 23, 2013, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 23, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
Amen to that.
I never understood the "Obama is super liberal" line. He's center-right, at the least.
Ah, Overton Window. Is there nothing you can't re-frame?
Yeah but he's BLACK, which makes him an abolitionist, and also he's pro-suffrage and integration, which means he's just another tool of the CATHEDRAL, MAN.
The only way to be really counter-culture is to not give a shit about human rights. It's real edgy and cool.
And that's basically the heart of it, isn't it? People in Brother Nihil's age bracket have finally figured out how to piss their parents off...By becoming fascist shitbags.
30 year old teenager, ITT.
Yep, that's pretty much it.
It's called neoreactionaryism, mom. Jeez.
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Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2013, 09:52:49 PM
I have a 15 year old student who currently thinks it is the height of wit to call people "niggers" and "Jews", and then make excuses that since he's an Arab he cant help but be racist (despite coming from Lebanon, living in Dubai and being half Russian as well).
He's somewhat more entertaining than BN though, cuz he's so easy to wind up.
That's why they exist, Cain. God loves you, and sends them to you.
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Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2013, 09:56:16 PM
I wish God had a "return to sender" option enabled...
Being ungrateful when God sends you stuff is BAD NEWS. He's like that aunt that knits you horribly ugly sweater vests and gets all pissed off if you aren't wearing it when she visits.
TGRR,
Has read the Old Testament a time or three.
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2013, 09:52:49 PM
I have a 15 year old student who currently thinks it is the height of wit to call people "niggers" and "Jews", and then make excuses that since he's an Arab he cant help but be racist (despite coming from Lebanon, living in Dubai and being half Russian as well).
He's somewhat more entertaining than BN though, cuz he's so easy to wind up.
He is aware that for census purposes Arabs of any stripe, at least in the US, are considered "Caucasian", no?
Or that, well, you know, you can always help being racist by not being fucking racist?
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 23, 2013, 05:23:28 PM
Another reason he is a DUMBASS: He has a problem with the left. So he runs far right to "counter" this problem.
Let's unpack that shit, shall we?
My drinking glass is full of battery acid. Obviously, I should pour soda ash into it. This will make the water drinkable, by neutralizing the acid.
Problem: STILL FUCKING POISONOUS.
And the HILARIOUS thing is, in the SAME BREATH, he says "I have to be 'neoreactionary' to counter the left" right along side "Pick no side, smash the fucking thing." It's almost like he had the beginning of a good idea (no side), and then his programming kicked in, and he was forced to stick to one side of the coin.
And there it is...Just another tragic victim of teabaggerism, seeking to smash The Machine™ by joining it and playing by its rules. Because "DUMBASS".
To destroy a HFT one must become a HFT?
So he fills his asshole with super glue so the "Left" doesn't fuck him correct?
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 23, 2013, 10:12:27 PM
So he fills his asshole with super glue so the "Left" doesn't fuck him correct?
:lulz::mittens::lulz:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 23, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 23, 2013, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 23, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
Amen to that.
I never understood the "Obama is super liberal" line. He's center-right, at the least.
Ah, Overton Window. Is there nothing you can't re-frame?
Yeah but he's BLACK, which makes him an abolitionist, and also he's pro-suffrage and integration, which means he's just another tool of the CATHEDRAL, MAN.
The only way to be really counter-culture is to not give a shit about human rights. It's real edgy and cool.
And that's basically the heart of it, isn't it? People in Brother Nihil's age bracket have finally figured out how to piss their parents off...By becoming fascist shitbags.
30 year old teenager Discordian Objectivist, ITT.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 23, 2013, 03:22:48 PM
Pixie can have a thread split whenever she wants it, just like always. Otherwise, just keep posting, and I'll sift everything out when the time comes.
thread split requested.
the derail was fun and all, but I've been sitting on pics and new info because I didn't want it to get lost
Hey Pix, how ya been?
So where did this crapsack come from anyway??
Looks like he read some half-hacked, junk website with buzzwords for the "free thinking" teenager (close enough to buzzwords for the office manager) that he can throw around incorrectly to contradict his own thoughts, thought up by someone else, to sound like he knows what he's talking about, only to be torn apart by anyone who knows what those words actually mean?
What in the fuck is he even trying to say with this inane bullshit??
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
"My friends"... wasn't that john McCain AND Mitt Romney's line?
What the actual fuck!
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:12:30 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This is why we call Squiddy
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
So where did this crapsack come from anyway??
Looks like he read some half-hacked, junk website with buzzwords for the "free thinking" teenager (close enough to buzzwords for the office manager) that he can throw around incorrectly to contradict his own thoughts, thought up by someone else, to sound like he knows what he's talking about, only to be torn apart by anyone who knows what those words actually mean?
What in the fuck is he even trying to say with this inane bullshit??
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
"My friends"... wasn't that john McCain AND Mitt Romney's line?
What the actual fuck!
Shamans of Magic and Black Sorcerers of Sorcery.
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
:lulz:
Wheeze
:lulz:
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
So where did this crapsack come from anyway??
Looks like he read some half-hacked, junk website with buzzwords for the "free thinking" teenager (close enough to buzzwords for the office manager) that he can throw around incorrectly to contradict his own thoughts, thought up by someone else, to sound like he knows what he's talking about, only to be torn apart by anyone who knows what those words actually mean?
What in the fuck is he even trying to say with this inane bullshit??
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
"My friends"... wasn't that john McCain AND Mitt Romney's line?
What the actual fuck!
I did some light googling on him.
Turns out that his primary interests appear to be fight club derived interpretations of nihilism, satanism of the anton levey flavour, nwo conspiracies, and all of his friends seem to be people who like to roleplay as sith lords and they appearently troll and countertroll one another into oblivion.
There is also a user "galdrux" on the spells of magic forums who may or may not be related, and that term itself is some new age concept I cannot be assed to remember the meaning of.
In short, it appears that he is from wherever all edgy edgemasters come from...
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
Quote from: von on September 24, 2013, 05:28:39 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
So where did this crapsack come from anyway??
Looks like he read some half-hacked, junk website with buzzwords for the "free thinking" teenager (close enough to buzzwords for the office manager) that he can throw around incorrectly to contradict his own thoughts, thought up by someone else, to sound like he knows what he's talking about, only to be torn apart by anyone who knows what those words actually mean?
What in the fuck is he even trying to say with this inane bullshit??
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
"My friends"... wasn't that john McCain AND Mitt Romney's line?
What the actual fuck!
I did some light googling on him.
Turns out that his primary interests appear to be fight club derived interpretations of nihilism, satanism of the anton levey flavour, nwo conspiracies, and all of his friends seem to be people who like to roleplay as sith lords and they appearently troll and countertroll one another into oblivion.
There is also a user "galdrux" on the spells of magic forums who may or may not be related, and that term itself is some new age concept I cannot be assed to remember the meaning of.
In short, it appears that he is from wherever all edgy edgemasters come from...
"Their mother's basement."
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
So, King Crimson fans. :lol:
Quote from: von on September 24, 2013, 05:28:39 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
So where did this crapsack come from anyway??
Looks like he read some half-hacked, junk website with buzzwords for the "free thinking" teenager (close enough to buzzwords for the office manager) that he can throw around incorrectly to contradict his own thoughts, thought up by someone else, to sound like he knows what he's talking about, only to be torn apart by anyone who knows what those words actually mean?
What in the fuck is he even trying to say with this inane bullshit??
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
"My friends"... wasn't that john McCain AND Mitt Romney's line?
What the actual fuck!
I did some light googling on him.
Turns out that his primary interests appear to be fight club derived interpretations of nihilism, satanism of the anton levey flavour, nwo conspiracies, and all of his friends seem to be people who like to roleplay as sith lords and they appearently troll and countertroll one another into oblivion.
There is also a user "galdrux" on the spells of magic forums who may or may not be related, and that term itself is some new age concept I cannot be assed to remember the meaning of.
In short, it appears that he is from wherever all edgy edgemasters come from...
Ahhh so we have a Jimmie Brown on our hands.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 24, 2013, 05:30:21 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
So, King Crimson Progressive Metal/Rock fans. :lol:
:lol:
Quote from: von on September 24, 2013, 05:28:39 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
So where did this crapsack come from anyway??
Looks like he read some half-hacked, junk website with buzzwords for the "free thinking" teenager (close enough to buzzwords for the office manager) that he can throw around incorrectly to contradict his own thoughts, thought up by someone else, to sound like he knows what he's talking about, only to be torn apart by anyone who knows what those words actually mean?
What in the fuck is he even trying to say with this inane bullshit??
Did this guy just crawl out of the swamp and join a vampire freaks website with all the other lonely kids who want to act like they know shit? Or is he just another asshole who dresses funny and is sick of "the man" keeping him unemployed for it?
Smarten up and think about what the fuck you're actually saying before throwing your dick beaters all over your keyboard in an effort to sound "deep", cause you look like every other glob of self important spooge making up utter nonsense.
"My friends"... wasn't that john McCain AND Mitt Romney's line?
What the actual fuck!
I did some light googling on him.
Turns out that his primary interests appear to be fight club derived interpretations of nihilism, satanism of the anton levey flavour, nwo conspiracies, and all of his friends seem to be people who like to roleplay as sith lords and they appearently troll and countertroll one another into oblivion.
There is also a user "galdrux" on the spells of magic forums who may or may not be related, and that term itself is some new age concept I cannot be assed to remember the meaning of.
In short, it appears that he is from wherever all edgy edgemasters come from...
Darkwing Duck. :lulz:
Darklings aren't actually interested in the Universe. They just take the cold, empty, uninteresting spots to somehow legitimize their failed ideologies by analogy. Yes, the Universe is mostly nothing. But there's a whole lot of something here. We're orbiting a whole lot of something. That whole lot of something is orbiting a whole lot of other something. That's unimportant because someone has to be in charge because most of everything doesn't care. :lulz:
We small d discordians don't get it. Life is only meaningful under an absolute state of monarchic anarchy. Clearly, we're not doing it right and our philosophical forebears would be ashamed of us. Shame, SHAME on us.
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
It's all about the cold, dead void. And absolute power, because the doctor hit my knee. If you were a Discordian, you'd understand.
:lulz:
my friends
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
It's all about the cold, dead void. And absolute power, because the doctor hit my knee. If you were a Discordian, you'd understand.
Now now...that kind of jesting sarcasm could earn you the wrath of the spectres of the elders of discordianism.
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
"It's all about the cold, dead void. And absolute power, because the doctor hit my knee. If you were a Discordian, you'd understand."
(http://i43.tinypic.com/280rre0.jpg)
Quote from: von on September 24, 2013, 05:56:45 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
It's all about the cold, dead void. And absolute power, because the doctor hit my knee. If you were a Discordian, you'd understand.
Now now...that kind of jesting sarcasm could earn you the wrath of the spectres of the elders of discordianism.
Uh-oh, insane dead beatniks and hippies might disapprove of lack of conservative tendencies! :lulz:
Careful there von, I think you're growing on me.
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:57:05 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
"It's all about the cold, dead void. And absolute power, because the doctor hit my knee. If you were a Discordian, you'd understand."
(http://i43.tinypic.com/280rre0.jpg)
Qu'elle criptique! Qu'est-que ce ca?
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:59:44 AM
Quote from: von on September 24, 2013, 05:56:45 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
It's all about the cold, dead void. And absolute power, because the doctor hit my knee. If you were a Discordian, you'd understand.
Now now...that kind of jesting sarcasm could earn you the wrath of the spectres of the elders of discordianism.
Uh-oh, insane dead beatniks and hippies might disapprove of lack of conservative tendencies! :lulz:
Careful there von, I think you're growing on me.
But its not about conservatism! Its about NIHILISM and NEOREACTION. Jeez...
Quote from: von on September 24, 2013, 06:31:20 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:59:44 AM
Quote from: von on September 24, 2013, 05:56:45 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:45:33 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:43:26 AM
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 24, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 05:24:19 AM
Sounds like a crappy new age band.
"Yo I'm so deep! When I bend over and you look into my third eye you can see all the way to R'lyeh!"
Whatever, kid.
I think I hear your mom knowin her role and ringin the dinner bell for your moochin ass.
Honestly it sounds like every angsty Tool fan.
Seriously the ones that stand around discussing music theory at shows, and completely miss the fucking show.
This sounds accurate.
It's all about the cold, dead void. And absolute power, because the doctor hit my knee. If you were a Discordian, you'd understand.
Now now...that kind of jesting sarcasm could earn you the wrath of the spectres of the elders of discordianism.
Uh-oh, insane dead beatniks and hippies might disapprove of lack of conservative tendencies! :lulz:
Careful there von, I think you're growing on me.
But its not about conservatism! Its about NIHILISM and NEOREACTION. Jeez...
You mean knee-jerk-a-derp-a-derp.
"We gotta go back to our old ways, which are meaningless because everything is meaningless, because the universe is meaningless and my wizard spell didn't make the indifferent Universe get me the position that some black woman who didn't know her place did! Moar magiczk! Moar control! Less meaning!"
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
i'm painting my house and realising there are too many fucking fascists in my part of the world for me to go to all the counter demos. I got a new awesome housemate that me and Payne like. We are contemplating getting a kitty.
Oh well. Doesn't look like I'll get my questions answered. At least I got some coffee & apple pie for my efforts to 'communicate'.
Seems that his 'I'm completely right wing and yet not a Nazi or Facist' stance appears to come from Julius Evola, who said well, pretty much the same thing....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola
P.S. Galdrux are two letters from the so called 'Enochian' alphabet of Dr John Dee. Gal is 'd' and Drux is 'n'. What significance does D & N have to these people? I neither know nor care.
Quote from: Mangrove on September 24, 2013, 04:03:21 PM
Oh well. Doesn't look like I'll get my questions answered. At least I got some coffee & apple pie for my efforts to 'communicate'.
Seems that his 'I'm completely right wing and yet not a Nazi or Facist' stance appears to come from Julius Evola, who said well, pretty much the same thing....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola
P.S. Galdrux are two letters from the so called 'Enochian' alphabet of Dr John Dee. Gal is 'd' and Drux is 'n'. What significance does D & N have to these people? I neither know nor care.
Enochian. The language so wacky the names of its letters don't even contain the letter they mean.
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on September 24, 2013, 04:03:21 PM
Oh well. Doesn't look like I'll get my questions answered. At least I got some coffee & apple pie for my efforts to 'communicate'.
Seems that his 'I'm completely right wing and yet not a Nazi or Facist' stance appears to come from Julius Evola, who said well, pretty much the same thing....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola
P.S. Galdrux are two letters from the so called 'Enochian' alphabet of Dr John Dee. Gal is 'd' and Drux is 'n'. What significance does D & N have to these people? I neither know nor care.
Enochian. The language so wacky the names of its letters don't even contain the letter they mean.
It makes it more occult, that way.
Quote from: Pixie on September 24, 2013, 10:32:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
i'm painting my house and realising there are too many fucking fascists in my part of the world for me to go to all the counter demos. I got a new awesome housemate that me and Payne like. We are contemplating getting a kitty.
I as a blond-haired blue-eyed Aryan ubermensch should really go to one of those counter demos to convince the nazis to follow my orders because of my superior genes.
"KNEEL BEFORE YOUR SUPERIOR! YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF FIGHTING FOR THE HONOUR OF OUR COUNTRY! GO HOME AND FAP LIKE THE SAD LITTLE DEGENERATE YOU ARE!" or something to that effect.
Referring to Enochian as a language is pretty optimistic. I'd describe it more as an elaborate code.
Also... "postmodern nihilist reactionary"... :lulz:
Related, sort of: I was on Facepalmbook and saw that a lady had posted that she doesn't care about the disappearing middle class because the class system is bullshit.
:facepalm:
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Quote from: Pixie on September 24, 2013, 10:32:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 24, 2013, 04:55:31 AM
Hey Pix, how ya been?
i'm painting my house and realising there are too many fucking fascists in my part of the world for me to go to all the counter demos. I got a new awesome housemate that me and Payne like. We are contemplating getting a kitty.
I'm more excited about you getting a kitty than anything this Nihilist ding dong has said in this entire thread.
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2013, 07:22:08 PM
LAWL.
Once they disappear the working and middle classes, everyone becomes upper class by definition, amirite?
Sounds perfectly logical.
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2013, 07:22:08 PM
LAWL.
Once they disappear the working and middle classes, everyone becomes upper class by definition, amirite?
:horrormirth:
I asked her to replace the word "class" with "income level" and see if it helps her relate to it any better.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 24, 2013, 07:19:01 PM
Related, sort of: I was on Facepalmbook and saw that a lady had posted that she doesn't care about the disappearing middle class because the class system is bullshit.
:facepalm:
I, FOR ONE, WELCOME OUR NEW FEUDAL OVERLORDS.
your posts become much funnier when I read them in the adults in the Charlie Brown cartoon style.
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Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 26, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
My friends, I'm going to go ahead and declare victory here. Every attempted rejoinder has merely confirmed my accusations, and increased my conviction in the veracity of my claims. I'd love to stay and debate these matters further, but I have other realms to conquer and an empire to erect. Enjoy your mundane little echo chamber, "discordians", and may you be the first to fall when true discord finds your slumbering little world.
:lulz:
HAVE FUN CONQUERING THE UNIVERSE!
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:wave:
Quote from: Cain on September 26, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Talks about echo chambers.
Says all the available evidence confirms his theory.
:lulz:
This guy was AWESOME. Wish you fuckos hadn't run him off.
"I'll be back and THEN you'll be sorry! CAUSE I'LL BE BRINGING THE REAL DISCORD WITH ME!"
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:magick:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 26, 2013, 07:17:10 PM
"I'll be back and THEN you'll be sorry! CAUSE I'LL BE BRINGING THE REAL DISCORD WITH ME!"
\
:magick:
He can take a number. That line is getting mighty long, though. Doesn't seem to be moving at all...
The circular reasoning of this fuck and SGITR syndrome is funny. Especially as Cain and Nigel are the smartest fuckers in these halls
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on September 26, 2013, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 26, 2013, 07:17:10 PM
"I'll be back and THEN you'll be sorry! CAUSE I'LL BE BRINGING THE REAL DISCORD WITH ME!"
\
:magick:
He can take a number. That line is getting mighty long, though. Doesn't seem to be moving at all...
Maybe he can bring that guy from Bear's Facebook, they seem to have a lot in common.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 26, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
My friends, I'm going to go ahead and declare victory here. Every attempted rejoinder has merely confirmed my accusations, and increased my conviction in the veracity of my claims. I'd love to stay and debate these matters further, but I have other realms to conquer and an empire to erect. Enjoy your mundane little echo chamber, "discordians", and may you be the first to fall when true discord finds your slumbering little world.
The way you type makes you sound like Lumberg from Office Space.
Quote from: Balls Wellington on September 26, 2013, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 26, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
My friends, I'm going to go ahead and declare victory here. Every attempted rejoinder has merely confirmed my accusations, and increased my conviction in the veracity of my claims. I'd love to stay and debate these matters further, but I have other realms to conquer and an empire to erect. Enjoy your mundane little echo chamber, "discordians", and may you be the first to fall when true discord finds your slumbering little world.
The way you type makes you sound like Lumberg from Office Space.
^THAT!!
Needs more batshit.
Quote from: Reverend What's His Bear on September 27, 2013, 05:31:28 AM
Needs more batshit.
Gimme about 6 hours, bub.
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(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2298864.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/A-cane-toad-attempting-to-swallow-a-bat-2298864.jpg) (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/thats-mouthful-moment-greedy-toad-2298853)
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 26, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
My friends, I'm going to go ahead and declare victory here. Every attempted rejoinder has merely confirmed my accusations, and increased my conviction in the veracity of my claims. I'd love to stay and debate these matters further, but I have other realms to conquer and an empire to erect. Enjoy your mundane little echo chamber, "discordians", and may you be the first to fall when true discord finds your slumbering little world.
>My friends, I'm going to go ahead and declare victory here.
On what grounds? Your arguments remain unproven, your oppenents are collectively laughing at you, and worst of all -- the community stands entirely unaffected by anything you did. If this is your concept of "victory", then good luck conquering the internet...you'll need it.
>Every attempted rejoinder has merely confirmed my accusations, and increased my conviction in the veracity of my claims.
no, every rejoinder has merely been met with insults from the community towards pseudo-mysticism on your part. on the occasions you were given a chance to actually provide logical argument for your point, you failed to do so. gg m8...and more luck conquering the internet with your grandoise skills as a troll...
>I'd love to stay and debate these matters further, but I have other realms to conquer and an empire to erect.
This is a blatant cop-out. You're simply unable to hold your own in a formal argument. Also, let's dig into your notion of trolling your way across the internet in order to "conquer" it...
...one does not simply
walk into mordor present logical arguments in order to wage a psychological/memetic campaign against a community. No, that doesn't work because people tend to have a full magazine of counterpoints ready to defend their position. Rather, you have to use subtlety, and have not only a sound understanding of your target (i.e. PD.com in this case -- a field of knowledge which you seem to lack), but also a sound understanding of how people receive and integrate data.
If you knew what you were doing, PD's memberbase wouldn't even perceive you as someone with a "wrong" ideology...ideally they wouldn't even perceive a "you" (another thing which you are lacking -- your persistent identity is laughable in that it's highly possible to dox, infiltrate and turn against you, every community which you are a member of...consider this). Rather they would simply absorb and integrate, over time, pieces of your ideology wrapped in benign fluff to the point that in 6 months time you could have them goose stepping with a happy roman salute singing "heil eris" if you so chose.
"Unfortunately", you are lacking in the skills needed to be able to manipulate anyone's opinions covertly...at current, the best you would ever be capable of is reinforcing the memetic repitoires of people who already agree with you by presenting new variations of arguments for concepts which they already believe in (i.e. what you did when you presented the bald fight club guy's video to that satanist forum).
also
>erect
Ok, this simply made me giggle. I kinda wanna touch my penis now because of the associations I have with this word.
>Enjoy your mundane little echo chamber, "discordians", and may you be the first to fall when true discord finds your slumbering little world.
If you think it's an echo chamber, go lurk moar. These people disagree on plenty of things...go look at the recent drugs thread...much disagreement there. It's just that they don't agree with moldbug's rewrapping of early 20th century reactionaryism.
As for these people being the first to fall when "true discord" happens...sure, they'd all die horrendous deaths...but so would you mr.1st-world.
:this:
:sad:
Did we just fall foul of a sociological experiment? We confirmed his theories and yet he didn't have the decency to explain what they were.
I feel cheated.
Quote from: Mangrove on September 27, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
:sad:
Did we just fall foul of a sociological experiment? We confirmed his theories and yet he didn't have the decency to explain what they were.
I feel cheated.
I doubt he'd be able to pull such a thing. Reading some things about neoreactionaryism, he basically thinks the forum's general failure to agree with him is rooted in the fact that we're all brainwashed by the cathedral, which under his framework of how the universe works, would prove him correct because us not agreeing with him -> implies we're products of the cathedral -> implies the cathedral exists -> implies his theories of how the world works are true.
It's a big non sequitur...
Anyway, if he were indeed playing us...I'd feel a bit gooby...thanks; now I'm all paranoid and stuff.
Quote from: von on September 27, 2013, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on September 27, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
:sad:
Did we just fall foul of a sociological experiment? We confirmed his theories and yet he didn't have the decency to explain what they were.
I feel cheated.
I doubt he'd be able to pull such a thing. Reading some things about neoreactionaryism, he basically thinks the forum's general failure to agree with him is rooted in the fact that we're all brainwashed by the cathedral, which under his framework of how the universe works, would prove him correct because us not agreeing with him -> implies we're products of the cathedral -> implies the cathedral exists -> implies his theories of how the world works are true.
It's a big non sequitur...
Anyway, if he were indeed playing us...I'd feel a bit gooby...thanks; now I'm all paranoid and stuff.
Naw, they all say that. It's the last refuge of the wounded butthurt.
Quote from: Hoopla on September 27, 2013, 04:14:42 PM
Quote from: von on September 27, 2013, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on September 27, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
:sad:
Did we just fall foul of a sociological experiment? We confirmed his theories and yet he didn't have the decency to explain what they were.
I feel cheated.
I doubt he'd be able to pull such a thing. Reading some things about neoreactionaryism, he basically thinks the forum's general failure to agree with him is rooted in the fact that we're all brainwashed by the cathedral, which under his framework of how the universe works, would prove him correct because us not agreeing with him -> implies we're products of the cathedral -> implies the cathedral exists -> implies his theories of how the world works are true.
It's a big non sequitur...
Anyway, if he were indeed playing us...I'd feel a bit gooby...thanks; now I'm all paranoid and stuff.
Naw, they all say that. It's the last refuge of the wounded butthurt.
I know, I know. I just let my imagination run wild with how easy it could be to potentially fake BN's entire seemingly extant history online...I considered it, and looking at how limp his galdrux thing is + how few other hard references to him there appear to be, it seemed /possible/ that his whole identity could have been a simple carboard facade setup as a ruse to make him unsuspecting...
then I shaved with occam's razor....
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:sad:
Did we just fall foul of a sociological experiment? We confirmed his theories and yet he didn't have the decency to explain what they were.
I feel cheated.
I doubt he'd be able to pull such a thing. Reading some things about neoreactionaryism, he basically thinks the forum's general failure to agree with him is rooted in the fact that we're all brainwashed by the cathedral, which under his framework of how the universe works, would prove him correct because us not agreeing with him -> implies we're products of the cathedral -> implies the cathedral exists -> implies his theories of how the world works are true.
It's a big non sequitur...
Anyway, if he were indeed playing us...I'd feel a bit gooby...thanks; now I'm all paranoid and stuff.
Naw, they all say that. It's the last refuge of the wounded butthurt.
I know, I know. I just let my imagination run wild with how easy it could be to potentially fake BN's entire seemingly extant history online...I considered it, and looking at how limp his galdrux thing is + how few other hard references to him there appear to be, it seemed /possible/ that his whole identity could have been a simple carboard facade setup as a ruse to make him unsuspecting...
then I shaved with occam's razor....
I've done that, when prepping to fuck with Pagans. You just create a few cohesive online identities, like "Starling" and "Tiki", spend maybe a week or two posting innocuously about the internet, leave them fallow for a year or so, and then commence batshittery, confident that people will be able to Google your ID and conclude that "Starling" is a real Pagan who has been around for a while and has internet cred.
For a YEAR or so?
You do not fuck around with your trolling, do you?
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 27, 2013, 04:55:05 PM
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Quote from: Mangrove on September 27, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
:sad:
Did we just fall foul of a sociological experiment? We confirmed his theories and yet he didn't have the decency to explain what they were.
I feel cheated.
I doubt he'd be able to pull such a thing. Reading some things about neoreactionaryism, he basically thinks the forum's general failure to agree with him is rooted in the fact that we're all brainwashed by the cathedral, which under his framework of how the universe works, would prove him correct because us not agreeing with him -> implies we're products of the cathedral -> implies the cathedral exists -> implies his theories of how the world works are true.
It's a big non sequitur...
Anyway, if he were indeed playing us...I'd feel a bit gooby...thanks; now I'm all paranoid and stuff.
Naw, they all say that. It's the last refuge of the wounded butthurt.
I know, I know. I just let my imagination run wild with how easy it could be to potentially fake BN's entire seemingly extant history online...I considered it, and looking at how limp his galdrux thing is + how few other hard references to him there appear to be, it seemed /possible/ that his whole identity could have been a simple carboard facade setup as a ruse to make him unsuspecting...
then I shaved with occam's razor....
I've done that, when prepping to fuck with Pagans. You just create a few cohesive online identities, like "Starling" and "Tiki", spend maybe a week or two posting innocuously about the internet, leave them fallow for a year or so, and then commence batshittery, confident that people will be able to Google your ID and conclude that "Starling" is a real Pagan who has been around for a while and has internet cred.
I'm not saying that it's beyond the realm of possibility that nihil could be a persona, simply that I don't believe he is due to the fact that I can't see what his end game would be from what he has posted thusfar...or at least the end-games I have in mind are pretty batshit off the wall stuff that really doesn't make sense.
thus occam's razor: it's simplest for me to assume he's just an edgy teen who's become enamoured with some pseudo-fascist ideology rather than assuming he's a super-duper troll who's posting obviously unpopular opinions for god knows why...
as for accounts aging for a year...my god.
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 26, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
My friends, I'm going to go ahead and declare victory here. Every attempted rejoinder has merely confirmed my accusations, and increased my conviction in the veracity of my claims. I'd love to stay and debate these matters further, but I have other realms to conquer and an empire to erect. Enjoy your mundane little echo chamber, "discordians", and may you be the first to fall when true discord finds your slumbering little world.
OH MY GOD. he's pulled back the curtain.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 27, 2013, 05:03:34 PM
For a YEAR or so?
You do not fuck around with your trolling, do you?
:lol: It's all in the setup.
Periodically, I generate a set of personas and leave them fallow for later, just in case. Also, my default mode when I encounter an interesting-looking forum is to make an account and post daily-ish for a week, just in case I need it for later.
The benefits of this are that I always have solid trolling destinations. The downside is that I forget about personas and accounts regularly.
Also, at this age, what's a year? That's just the span between when I have time to do some set up (this summer) and the next time I have time to troll (next summer).
Quote from: Brother Nihil on September 20, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
Roger, you're a plodder, a pedant and a dull-witted plebe.
:hammer:
You should insist on those being your pronouns on tumblr (http://correctdichotomy.tumblr.com/post/75409273785/i-need-to-compile-this-omgggggggg), plod/plods/plodself.
Quote from: Cain on March 06, 2014, 03:17:24 PM
You should insist on those being your pronouns on tumblr (http://correctdichotomy.tumblr.com/post/75409273785/i-need-to-compile-this-omgggggggg), plod/plods/plodself.
:lulz:
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Bless his lonely heart, the nihilist just wants some friends.
There would probably have been hope if he was 12. I see a lost cause here.
I think he's too busy blaming women for his virginity and blacks for his unemployment.
I have cold issues of late so may have a kindered spirit with him for like 1/2 sec before it turns to just bleh.
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QuoteHere for To create an alter ego: Superhero, Supervillain, Troll, Star, New Identity., To save, conquer, troll, entertain, seduce or shock., To make friends. -
Bless his lonely heart, the nihilist just wants some friends.
There would probably have been hope if he was 12. I see a lost cause here.
I think he's too busy blaming women for his virginity and blacks for his unemployment.
I have cold issues of late so may have a kindered spirit with him for like 1/2 sec before it turns to just bleh.
Wait, you caught a cold that gives you Nazi moments? :lulz:
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Quote from: whenhellfreezes on March 14, 2014, 02:51:03 AM
Quote from: Nobody understands birds on September 20, 2013, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 20, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
QuoteHere for To create an alter ego: Superhero, Supervillain, Troll, Star, New Identity., To save, conquer, troll, entertain, seduce or shock., To make friends. -
Bless his lonely heart, the nihilist just wants some friends.
There would probably have been hope if he was 12. I see a lost cause here.
I think he's too busy blaming women for his virginity and blacks for his unemployment.
I have cold issues of late so may have a kindered spirit with him for like 1/2 sec before it turns to just bleh.
Wait, you caught a cold that gives you Nazi moments? :lulz:
You never get evil when you get tired, worn down, overworked, and overstressed?
I do, i stop giving a shit about anyone's wellbeing.
When i am dead tired I may piss on a child if they are on fire, but I will aim for their mouth to shut them up because their wailing is hurting my ears, I wouldn't do it to save them. The first time i noticed that about myself it scared me, luckily i have been stressed too much almost continuously so I don't care what kind of monster I am becoming. I do hope to get some R&R within a decade, the psychotic episodes have started to mess with my vision, and that is annoying.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2014, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on March 14, 2014, 02:51:03 AM
Quote from: Nobody understands birds on September 20, 2013, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 20, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
QuoteHere for To create an alter ego: Superhero, Supervillain, Troll, Star, New Identity., To save, conquer, troll, entertain, seduce or shock., To make friends. -
Bless his lonely heart, the nihilist just wants some friends.
There would probably have been hope if he was 12. I see a lost cause here.
I think he's too busy blaming women for his virginity and blacks for his unemployment.
I have cold issues of late so may have a kindered spirit with him for like 1/2 sec before it turns to just bleh.
Wait, you caught a cold that gives you Nazi moments? :lulz:
You never get evil when you get tired, worn down, overworked, and overstressed?
I do, i stop giving a shit about anyone's wellbeing.
When i am dead tired I may piss on a child if they are on fire, but I will aim for their mouth to shut them up because their wailing is hurting my ears, I wouldn't do it to save them. The first time i noticed that about myself it scared me, luckily i have been stressed too much almost continuously so I don't care what kind of monster I am becoming. I do hope to get some R&R within a decade, the psychotic episodes have started to mess with my vision, and that is annoying.
Course I do. But not to that extent.
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Quote from: :regret: on March 14, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 14, 2014, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: whenhellfreezes on March 14, 2014, 02:51:03 AM
Quote from: Nobody understands birds on September 20, 2013, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on September 20, 2013, 08:54:28 AM
QuoteHere for To create an alter ego: Superhero, Supervillain, Troll, Star, New Identity., To save, conquer, troll, entertain, seduce or shock., To make friends. -
Bless his lonely heart, the nihilist just wants some friends.
There would probably have been hope if he was 12. I see a lost cause here.
I think he's too busy blaming women for his virginity and blacks for his unemployment.
I have cold issues of late so may have a kindered spirit with him for like 1/2 sec before it turns to just bleh.
Wait, you caught a cold that gives you Nazi moments? :lulz:
You never get evil when you get tired, worn down, overworked, and overstressed?
I do, i stop giving a shit about anyone's wellbeing.
When i am dead tired I may piss on a child if they are on fire, but I will aim for their mouth to shut them up because their wailing is hurting my ears, I wouldn't do it to save them. The first time i noticed that about myself it scared me, luckily i have been stressed too much almost continuously so I don't care what kind of monster I am becoming. I do hope to get some R&R within a decade, the psychotic episodes have started to mess with my vision, and that is annoying.
Course I do. But not to that extent.
It must be because your RAGE gland gets a purging more often. Maybe I just need a
good bad mosh-pit. I would hate to let my hate get all over a good one.