ITT we bitch about/rejoice in All The Things having to do with our experiences with higher education.
I will start by complaining that I do not give a single wet fig about "understanding architecture", and this book is interminable. I'm only at page 85 and this week's reading is through page 155. I am dying inside with every word I read.
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Quote from: Cain on September 28, 2013, 09:39:22 PM
I'm actually ignoring many of my readings at the moment. Methods and Research seems painfully basic, and the other module is Terrorism 101 for people who didn't do it first time around. A lot of this could have something to do with my big-ass library and three years of boredom to read it in.
I realize this is possibly terribly irresponsible of me and I may learn things I did not know by doing the readings as given to me...but I don't think that will be the case.
:lulz: I am doing likewise... mostly because the research section in my bio book is really simple, and the next couple weeks of chem are just review. But this damn architecture book, I have a quiz on it tomorrow.
If I have to read Descartes one more fucking time, I'm going to turn into an evil demon.
Bitch about? I can't really complain. I get paid to do research, I keep my own hours, my adviser is laid back, my classes are minimal, and....
...my prelims are coming up.
Well, I guess that's one thing that makes me nervous. I have to come up with three (3) topics. My committee will gather, and they will proceed to pick one of those, altering it as they desire. I will then have 6-10 weeks to write a large review and research proposal of that topic, which is supposed to not be the focus of my dissertation. I am allowed no guidance from faculty during this period. At the close of those 6-10 weeks my committee will gather again, and I will defend said review/proposal. They will tear it apart, and barrage me with questions, both random and relevant. If I pass, I can then write the proposal for my actual dissertation research, which I have already started.
Besides the presentation I gave two weeks ago on plant stress physiology, it's minor details plus a major work.
Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 28, 2013, 10:25:01 PM
If I have to read Descartes one more fucking time, I'm going to turn into an evil demon.
:lulz:
Quote from: Kai on September 28, 2013, 10:38:50 PM
Bitch about? I can't really complain. I get paid to do research, I keep my own hours, my adviser is laid back, my classes are minimal, and....
...my prelims are coming up.
Well, I guess that's one thing that makes me nervous. I have to come up with three (3) topics. My committee will gather, and they will proceed to pick one of those, altering it as they desire. I will then have 6-10 weeks to write a large review and research proposal of that topic, which is supposed to not be the focus of my dissertation. I am allowed no guidance from faculty during this period. At the close of those 6-10 weeks my committee will gather again, and I will defend said review/proposal. They will tear it apart, and barrage me with questions, both random and relevant. If I pass, I can then write the proposal for my actual dissertation research, which I have already started.
Besides the presentation I gave two weeks ago on plant stress physiology, it's minor details plus a major work.
Well, the other option is "rejoice in", which I will also be doing a bit because my bio professor is awesome and I love going to class. :)
You can nail your proposal, Kai, you definitely have it in you.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 28, 2013, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 28, 2013, 10:38:50 PM
Bitch about? I can't really complain. I get paid to do research, I keep my own hours, my adviser is laid back, my classes are minimal, and....
...my prelims are coming up.
Well, I guess that's one thing that makes me nervous. I have to come up with three (3) topics. My committee will gather, and they will proceed to pick one of those, altering it as they desire. I will then have 6-10 weeks to write a large review and research proposal of that topic, which is supposed to not be the focus of my dissertation. I am allowed no guidance from faculty during this period. At the close of those 6-10 weeks my committee will gather again, and I will defend said review/proposal. They will tear it apart, and barrage me with questions, both random and relevant. If I pass, I can then write the proposal for my actual dissertation research, which I have already started.
Besides the presentation I gave two weeks ago on plant stress physiology, it's minor details plus a major work.
Well, the other option is "rejoice in", which I will also be doing a bit because my bio professor is awesome and I love going to class. :)
You can nail your proposal, Kai, you definitely have it in you.
Well, I have a couple months yet before that confrontation, so I should be alright.
What sort of awesome is your bio class?
Quote from: Kai on September 28, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 28, 2013, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 28, 2013, 10:38:50 PM
Bitch about? I can't really complain. I get paid to do research, I keep my own hours, my adviser is laid back, my classes are minimal, and....
...my prelims are coming up.
Well, I guess that's one thing that makes me nervous. I have to come up with three (3) topics. My committee will gather, and they will proceed to pick one of those, altering it as they desire. I will then have 6-10 weeks to write a large review and research proposal of that topic, which is supposed to not be the focus of my dissertation. I am allowed no guidance from faculty during this period. At the close of those 6-10 weeks my committee will gather again, and I will defend said review/proposal. They will tear it apart, and barrage me with questions, both random and relevant. If I pass, I can then write the proposal for my actual dissertation research, which I have already started.
Besides the presentation I gave two weeks ago on plant stress physiology, it's minor details plus a major work.
Well, the other option is "rejoice in", which I will also be doing a bit because my bio professor is awesome and I love going to class. :)
You can nail your proposal, Kai, you definitely have it in you.
Well, I have a couple months yet before that confrontation, so I should be alright.
What sort of awesome is your bio class?
It is totally just the first of the intro to bio series, so far the awesome is that the professor is funny as hell. I haven't actually learned anything new yet. I have a feeling I'm going to really like this course, though.
So, I might be way off the mark but so far I've noticed that chemists tend to be reserved and OCD, and biologists tend to be expressive and, for lack of a better term, messy. Not literally, metaphorically;
everything is complicated, and they LOVE it.
This semester it's Income Tax, which I failed last time due to a stressful living environment. And QuickBooks, which is syoer fucking useful, OMG!
Two years into applied business classes and I finally have something pertinent to my work.
My most favorite thing about college was watching assholes binge drink themselves into the hospital.
My least favorite memories of college involve being unable to pay for it and getting turned down for financial assistance and grants.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 29, 2013, 01:01:31 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 28, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 28, 2013, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 28, 2013, 10:38:50 PM
Bitch about? I can't really complain. I get paid to do research, I keep my own hours, my adviser is laid back, my classes are minimal, and....
...my prelims are coming up.
Well, I guess that's one thing that makes me nervous. I have to come up with three (3) topics. My committee will gather, and they will proceed to pick one of those, altering it as they desire. I will then have 6-10 weeks to write a large review and research proposal of that topic, which is supposed to not be the focus of my dissertation. I am allowed no guidance from faculty during this period. At the close of those 6-10 weeks my committee will gather again, and I will defend said review/proposal. They will tear it apart, and barrage me with questions, both random and relevant. If I pass, I can then write the proposal for my actual dissertation research, which I have already started.
Besides the presentation I gave two weeks ago on plant stress physiology, it's minor details plus a major work.
Well, the other option is "rejoice in", which I will also be doing a bit because my bio professor is awesome and I love going to class. :)
You can nail your proposal, Kai, you definitely have it in you.
Well, I have a couple months yet before that confrontation, so I should be alright.
What sort of awesome is your bio class?
It is totally just the first of the intro to bio series, so far the awesome is that the professor is funny as hell. I haven't actually learned anything new yet. I have a feeling I'm going to really like this course, though.
So, I might be way off the mark but so far I've noticed that chemists tend to be reserved and OCD, and biologists tend to be expressive and, for lack of a better term, messy. Not literally, metaphorically; everything is complicated, and they LOVE it.
Literally, as well. Both my graduate advisers' offices have been a mess. It kind of drives me batty. Neither could/can keep any semblance of order in their workspace (outside the filing system my master's adviser had). Maybe I'm a chemist at heart? Or just an old fashioned taxonomist who likes to ORDER ALL THE THINGS.
No complaints today, just some X-posts from my epistemology class forum, just in case there's any discussion fuel contained therein.
Response to Pat Churchland and 'Eliminative Materialism'
QuoteI have to say, in a very general sense, that I agree with Churchland. The idea of 'mind-body dualism' is preposterous on the following grounds. The claim that the understanding or origin of consciousness somehow lies 'beyond the physical realm' is problematic in more than a few ways. To name just a couple problems, we don't have to think too hard. For instance, if consciousness is somehow dictated by something that is 'above' the physical realm, how can it interact with the physical realm? That is to say, how can the non-physical affect the physical? Further, even if we ignore this issue, and we assume that consciousness is somehow physically dictated by a non-physical entity, then how can we prove it? Surely, we can't be expected to escape the physical realm to observe this non-physical entity or process, and even if we could 'escape,' we have no reason to believe that our measurement tools could function in a 'non-physical' realm, therefore rendering any degree of proof impossible.
All that being said, I think Churchland is getting a bit ahead of herself. There a lot of inherent issues of reductionist philosophies, and materialism of any type can lead to some bad juju (Just read some Hobbes and you can see this in action). But, my own personal objections to Churchland come with the reduction of the mind to a simple material. Now, no object exists in a vacuum, and a major part of how we understand and define objects is through their relations to other objects. That said, the problem of reducing 'mind' to 'brain' becomes problematic because, in order to understand 'brain,' we must understand the full context in which it exists. And that context is so utterly massive that to believe at any point that we've 'figured it out' would be foolish, as contexts change and certain interplays between objects are not always readily noticeable. Add to this that each person's brain is unique in form as well as 'content.' If one were to be looking for general laws of consciousness, then, at best, we would have only certain 'ceteris paribus' laws concerning individual brains.
All that aside, the reductionist idea of materialism, to me, is also problematic. Personally, if we are to reduce 'mind' to something physical, it does not follow that we must focus only on the 'material' of that mind. I would propose, instead, that we look more at 'processes,' as opposed to 'stuff.' A process of thought cannot be reduced to any individual physical material or component of the brain. An electronic impulse is not the 'thought' any more than the chemical transmissions are. The 'thought' lies in the entirety of the physical process, not the parts involved, hence non-material, but not non-physical. Also, when looking at it this way, we see that time plays a factor. So, even if we had a good working theory one moment, any change in context or process over the course of time would render our theory incomplete.
There's a thing I say from time to time, with varying degrees of seriousness (depending on the context): "In order to fully understand the human brain as it is, we would have to further develop our brains. But, by that time, any explanation we came up with would be no longer relevant, as our brains would be significantly different than the brains we had at first attempted to explain."
Response to Kuhn, written waaaaaaay past my bedtime:
QuoteDon't let the page count fool you, Khun's essay is dense. It's a little intimidating trying to write a mere forum post that even begins to give this piece proper consideration. This is due, in part, to the fact that this essay is not only a recap of a previous position of Khun's, but also a rebuttal to critics of that position, as well as a clarification of terms. Lot's to look at. That said, I'll try to keep my post related to the titular material.
Theory Choice - In a nutshell, this is what this essay is about. Khun highlights some areas in which standardized criterion fails to sufficiently determine which of two competing theories should be accepted. One example Khun used to illustrate such difficulties is that of the Copernicus's model vs. that of Ptolemy. Here we see that strict criterion can render itself near helpless. In terms of accuracy, the two competing theories were equally valid, in that they both served to make equally accurate prediction. In terms of consistency, Ptolemy's model was far more in line with the standards of what was at the time (basically, a physic that required a stationary, central earth). Khun's final use of this example shows us how different ways of evaluating certain criteria can lead to some difficulty. While Copernicus's model did not appear to be simpler, in that it did not provide any labor saving techniques, if looked at differently, it can be said that it was much simpler when compared to Ptolemy's, based on the lack of required epicycles. Or, to be put even simpler, Copernicus's model had 'fewer circles.'
Value Judgements vs. Criteria - To make a clumsy paraphrase of Khun's point regarding Criteria: A proposed criteria ought not be expected to function as rules or strictures to determine choice of one theory over another, but rather should function as a set of values that influence that choice (I'd planned on giving this a bit more, but clock's ticking. Moving on).
Objectivity vs. Subjectivity - (God, it's late). Just a quick comment on a point Khun makes on this topic. His clarification of his usage of the word 'subjectivity' takes a little bit of a wiggle, but I think the following quote is representative (at least to me, in my current head-space) of his point "Whether my taste is low or refined, my report that I liked the film is objective." The two are connected in an interesting way. I think an analogy I would make is that a requirement that a set of criteria be objective in its selection of a theory, in that it seeks to eliminate all subjective content, also eliminates the important subjective content that should be considered by a good set of criteria. I would liken this to a medical treatment that seeks to destroy a particular microbe, but in the process, destroys all of the 'good' microbes required to maintain good health.
I hope some of this makes sense.
Side complaint: 'Epistemology' is called 'Truth, knowledge and belief' at URI. They say they made this choice in terms because 'no one knows what's meant by 'epistemology.'" I would argue that no one knows what's meant by 'Truth, Knowledge and Belief,' either. So, way to go URI. Shoot for that lowest common denominator.
Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 29, 2013, 06:16:43 PM
Side complaint: 'Epistemology' is called 'Truth, knowledge and belief' at URI. They say they made this choice in terms because 'no one knows what's meant by 'epistemology.'" I would argue that no one knows what's meant by 'Truth, Knowledge and Belief,' either. So, way to go URI. Shoot for that lowest common denominator.
Whaaaaaat
so they think college students aren't capable of picking up one new vocabulary word? That makes zero sense.
Instead of expensive text book professor thought this was a better idea.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/789696a988ac5f11af0e20f14a3a66df/tumblr_mtwop7HXJ61r5ncgho1_1280.jpg)
Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?
I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c
Am I?
Probably not.
But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.
I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;
Quote from: cris on September 30, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?
I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c
Am I?
Probably not.
But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.
I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;
If you're taking college classes in a college setting, then yep, you can bitch (or exult) about higher education ITT.
If for some reason you don't understand basic college-level concepts, you can ask for help here or find a tutor through your college's learning/resource center.
If you are running into a lot of mathematical concepts you don't already know, you should probably re-take the prerequisites.
Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 28, 2013, 10:25:01 PM
If I have to read Descartes one more fucking time, I'm going to turn into an evil demon.
renee descartes walks into a bar, sits down, and doesn't order anything
the bartender finally gets annoyed, "are you going to order something or what?"
he says, "...I think not." ---------and POOF, ceases to exist
Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 29, 2013, 06:16:43 PM
Side complaint: 'Epistemology' is called 'Truth, knowledge and belief' at URI. They say they made this choice in terms because 'no one knows what's meant by 'epistemology.'" I would argue that no one knows what's meant by 'Truth, Knowledge and Belief,' either. So, way to go URI. Shoot for that lowest common denominator.
:lol: I once took a class called "Social Behavior". The professor said the actual title of the course is "Ethnomethodology" but when they used that title, nobody signed up.
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I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.
I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.
No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.
The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/
I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.
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I have a distinct lack of enthusiasm for this term. I love my bio professor but I hate my chem professor and I don't give a fuck about architecture and resent that I have to take arts & humanities at all. I am also running circles around everyone else in that class which I am sure makes me look enthusiastic but nothing could be farther from the truth.
Hate my chem teacher. Hate hate hate.
Quote from: Cramulus on September 30, 2013, 04:04:12 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on September 28, 2013, 10:25:01 PM
If I have to read Descartes one more fucking time, I'm going to turn into an evil demon.
renee descartes walks into a bar, sits down, and doesn't order anything
the bartender finally gets annoyed, "are you going to order something or what?"
he says, "...I think not." ---------and POOF, ceases to exist
I think they put the horse in front of Decartes on that one.
I stopped in my 3rd year of university because kids, no money, etc.
If I had finished, I would have STARTED in the job I worked up to being in today. Which would have been nice.
But I would also have been Mike the Engineer, because I wouldn't have had the time in the trenches that taught me my ass from a hole in the ground.
But that may be specific to my field.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 12:07:26 AM
I stopped in my 3rd year of university because kids, no money, etc.
If I had finished, I would have STARTED in the job I worked up to being in today. Which would have been nice.
But I would also have been Mike the Engineer, because I wouldn't have had the time in the trenches that taught me my ass from a hole in the ground.
But that may be specific to my field.
Not specific to your field. There are people in my department who rank higher than me, not because they actually know anything but because they went to school for 4 years. They are consistently
wrong about
everything, but their ideas are always more valuable and their plans are always tried first, because you know, "diploma." And when everything blows up and those of us who know what we're doing because we've been in those trenches have to go in and fix everything, we still don't get any credit because we should have just implemented things better from the start.
Of course, this is not to say that the best way to become a brain surgeon or a physicist is by trial and error. I just don't think a University education is necessarily the best form of education
for everything.
Quote from: V3X on October 01, 2013, 01:03:05 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 12:07:26 AM
I stopped in my 3rd year of university because kids, no money, etc.
If I had finished, I would have STARTED in the job I worked up to being in today. Which would have been nice.
But I would also have been Mike the Engineer, because I wouldn't have had the time in the trenches that taught me my ass from a hole in the ground.
But that may be specific to my field.
Not specific to your field. There are people in my department who rank higher than me, not because they actually know anything but because they went to school for 4 years. They are consistently wrong about everything, but their ideas are always more valuable and their plans are always tried first, because you know, "diploma." And when everything blows up and those of us who know what we're doing because we've been in those trenches have to go in and fix everything, we still don't get any credit because we should have just implemented things better from the start.
Of course, this is not to say that the best way to become a brain surgeon or a physicist is by trial and error. I just don't think a University education is necessarily the best form of education for everything.
I learned my actual trade as an apprentice, in my mid-20s. For some things, I still think that's the absolute best way to go.
Quote from: Suu on September 30, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.
I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.
No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.
The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/
I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.
Sounds more like ignorance.
There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1. Actual intelligence.
2. Education.
3. Experience.
You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 12:07:26 AM
I stopped in my 3rd year of university because kids, no money, etc.
If I had finished, I would have STARTED in the job I worked up to being in today. Which would have been nice.
But I would also have been Mike the Engineer, because I wouldn't have had the time in the trenches that taught me my ass from a hole in the ground.
But that may be specific to my field.
Unfortunately, it's not.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 01:33:15 AM
Quote from: Suu on September 30, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.
I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.
No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.
The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/
I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.
Sounds more like ignorance.
There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1. Actual intelligence.
2. Education.
3. Experience.
You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.
And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.
Quote from: Suu on October 01, 2013, 02:57:00 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 01:33:15 AM
Quote from: Suu on September 30, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.
I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.
No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.
The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/
I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.
Sounds more like ignorance.
There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1. Actual intelligence.
2. Education.
3. Experience.
You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.
And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.
Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 01, 2013, 02:57:00 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 01:33:15 AM
Quote from: Suu on September 30, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.
I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.
No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.
The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/
I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.
Sounds more like ignorance.
There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1. Actual intelligence.
2. Education.
3. Experience.
You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.
And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.
Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.
Despite the fact that my mother constantly told me I was born 40 years old, that's not what I meant. I think the fact that this time around I am seeing more disruption and lack of respect than I did 13 years ago. Does that make the students bad students? Probably not, they have the same attitudes most 20 year olds have, but now I just find the apathy grating. I also went to an expensive art college, not a large public university, so yeah, experiences will vary. I've always been very studious, but I'm not flawless. I dislike auditorium classes for this reason.
Quote from: Suu on October 01, 2013, 03:15:05 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 01, 2013, 02:57:00 AM
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Quote from: Suu on September 30, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.
I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.
No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.
The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/
I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.
Sounds more like ignorance.
There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1. Actual intelligence.
2. Education.
3. Experience.
You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.
And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.
Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.
Despite the fact that my mother constantly told me I was born 40 years old, that's not what I meant. I think the fact that this time around I am seeing more disruption and lack of respect than I did 13 years ago. Does that make the students bad students? Probably not, they have the same attitudes most 20 year olds have, but now I just find the apathy grating. I also went to an expensive art college, not a large public university, so yeah, experiences will vary. I've always been very studious, but I'm not flawless. I dislike auditorium classes for this reason.
1. Balls, when I was your age, we'd mug the fucking professor half way through the lecture.
2. I suppose those kids should have gone to an expensive art college.
Go back and read what you wrote as if someone else wrote it. I think you'll be appalled.
why does it really matter where he came from?
Quote from: cris on September 30, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?
I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c
Am I?
Probably not.
But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.
I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;
Identities: short of using crazy mnemonic tricks, you really can't memorize all of the trig identities. Fortunately, all you have to remember is how to draw a circle, that a2 + b2 = c2, that cosine goes sideways and sine goes up and down, and that their derivatives are each other except one of them has the sign flipped. If you
understand how they all fit together, you can derive whatever you need on the fly, even on a test scenario. Somewhere around the 2nd - 3rd semester of calculus you'll be able to remember the identities you use all the time, which will be all of the important ones.
Essays: Are you doing essays for AP tests? Those aren't real essays - you just need to mention all the things on the grading rubric, so practice ignoring the question and writing random strings of facts. Pretend you're a partisan on an interview - your goal is to hit as many campaign talking points as humanly possible.
If you are doing real essays, read essays. Op-eds are fine, as are bloggers with axes to grind, old religious/philosophical argumentative types, some forum posts here, whatever. Most of the essays you read will be shit. Understand that, understand why they're shit, and then don't do those things. You probably have a bunch of really unhelpful textbooks - find one good textbook as a point of reference, and then use that to figure the difference between something explained well and something explained poorly.
Case studies: ditto. Read some case studies and do what they do. They're commonly found in documentaries, especially documentaries that are dolled up advertising. If the argument is "X totally works! Here's one time it worked, and now I'm going to spend three hours talking about that one time it worked because I can't find any other examples" it's probably a case study.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 03:16:48 AM
Quote from: Suu on October 01, 2013, 03:15:05 AM
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Quote from: Suu on October 01, 2013, 02:57:00 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 01, 2013, 01:33:15 AM
Quote from: Suu on September 30, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
I am in a gen ed for religious studies...in a lecture hall of 250 whiny undergrads who don't want to be there and were hoping for an easy A. They bitch about the attendance, they bitch how the class is bullshit, and they bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch about anyone who knows the answer to a question they do not. Like me, apparently.
I forgot that college is apparently middle school these days, because I walked into the ladies room on Thursday after class to hear a clutch, a gaggle, if you will, of girls bitching that I knew the answer to a trivia question they did not, and therefore, I was some sort of show off.
No, you cunts, I'm a fucking history major, and I learned it in ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. (In 1614, who married who in the Virginia Colony? - Pocahontas (Rebecca Rolfe) and John Rolfe.) That's not rocket science, that's not showing off, that's me showing you fucking shitheadimii maximii up so maybe you can actually learn something without having to copy off of your friends.
The icing on the cake for me was when the kid behind me said "England" when the professor asked the class what country Columbus sailed for, expecting a chorus of "Spain!" He got a mixed bag of answers instead. :/
I like the class materials, I really do. We're currently covering the history of Judaism (the above mentioned lecture was a precursor to discussion on the Diaspora in North America) but it's so hard to focus, even sitting deliberately in the front row, when I have to deal with the sheer amount of idiocity surrounding me.
Sounds more like ignorance.
There are three separate things that people group under intelligence, that are actually VERY different things.
1. Actual intelligence.
2. Education.
3. Experience.
You seem to be confusing #1 and #2.
And I have more of #3 than they do, which results in my frustration. Still, Columbus sailing from England? I want to go back and kick his kindergarten teacher in the taint.
Well, then, it's a good thing you were born with that and never had to learn it or anything.
Despite the fact that my mother constantly told me I was born 40 years old, that's not what I meant. I think the fact that this time around I am seeing more disruption and lack of respect than I did 13 years ago. Does that make the students bad students? Probably not, they have the same attitudes most 20 year olds have, but now I just find the apathy grating. I also went to an expensive art college, not a large public university, so yeah, experiences will vary. I've always been very studious, but I'm not flawless. I dislike auditorium classes for this reason.
1. Balls, when I was your age, we'd mug the fucking professor half way through the lecture.
2. I suppose those kids should have gone to an expensive art college.
Go back and read what you wrote as if someone else wrote it. I think you'll be appalled.
This is what I get for operating on several doses of narcotics while trying to PD. :|
I'll be back when this shit is over.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 30, 2013, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: cris on September 30, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?
I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c
Am I?
Probably not.
But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.
I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;
If you're taking college classes in a college setting, then yep, you can bitch (or exult) about higher education ITT.
Im taking college classes in a public high school setting.
But, I'll bitch about it anyways.
Quote from: cris on October 04, 2013, 09:56:42 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 30, 2013, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: cris on September 30, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?
I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c
Am I?
Probably not.
But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.
I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;
If you're taking college classes in a college setting, then yep, you can bitch (or exult) about higher education ITT.
Im taking college classes in a public high school setting.
But, I'll bitch about it anyways.
You can bitch.
I am nonetheless going to tell you that using a college textbook in a high-school class, taught by a high-school teacher, is going to be absolutely NOTHING like a college class, taught by a college professor.
The reason I am going to tell you that is because it's true, and because I want you to not get discouraged about college, because it's very different from and a lot more fun than high school. The ethic, teaching methods, and the way students are treated are just completely different.
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on October 04, 2013, 10:38:49 PM
Quote from: cris on October 04, 2013, 09:56:42 PM
Quote from: Mean Mister Nigel on September 30, 2013, 05:59:21 AM
Quote from: cris on September 30, 2013, 03:01:38 AM
Does taking college classes in highschool count as higher education?
I don't think im allowed to bitch in this thread :c
Am I?
Probably not.
But I dont have to follow your fucking standards.
I swear I can't fucking memorize any of the pythagorean Identities or various other trigonometric functions :c
And how the hell am I supposed to know how to write college essays and pass them :c
And you can't just tell me to write a thousand word case study without even telling me what a case study is ;-;
If you're taking college classes in a college setting, then yep, you can bitch (or exult) about higher education ITT.
Im taking college classes in a public high school setting.
But, I'll bitch about it anyways.
You can bitch.
I am nonetheless going to tell you that using a college textbook in a high-school class, taught by a high-school teacher, is going to be absolutely NOTHING like a college class, taught by a college professor.
The reason I am going to tell you that is because it's true, and because I want you to not get discouraged about college, because it's very different from and a lot more fun than high school. The ethic, teaching methods, and the way students are treated are just completely different.
totally.
The professors WANT the students to talk and ask questions.
I just shelled out my $65 and submitted my application to graduate school.
I will now writhe in stress-induced pain until I get the response in about a month.
Quote from: Suu on October 08, 2013, 01:51:29 AM
I just shelled out my $65 and submitted my application to graduate school.
I will now writhe in stress-induced pain until I get the response in about a month.
Good luck!
Thanks!
Tonight Poli Sci class was actually quite fun. We split into groups of 3 and had to draft and plan to ratify an amendment to the Constitution in a half hour. There was everything from Congressional term limits, forcing more women into legislative seats, and student loan/tuition repayment reform (that was ours.)
The icing on the cake was the group that wanted to repeal Obamacare. When they said what they were trying, the professor stopped, and said, "Wait...how old are you?"
"22...21...19."
"Who pays for your healthcare?"
"...My parents."
"...okay then, please continue, because I can't wait to hear what you have to say."
Naturally, they left in the 26 year old clause, and the pre-existing condition clause, but they couldn't make a solid argument for why it should be repealed other than that "People shouldn't be forced into buying things." I had to hand it to them though, because they were able to produce a half-way decent argument, and didn't get flustered or anything.
We are done with Consolations of Philosphy in my Medieval Quests class. Now for Beowulf, and I had to rein myself in to keep from hogging the very little bit of class we talked about Beowulf and kennings. I really really really like kennings.
X-post from my epistemology class forum, just for sharts and gargles.
QuoteThere is a great deal to speak about in regards to the topic of artificial intelligence (which I, as I consider it to be a derisive term, will hereby refer to as 'artifactual intelligence,' or, to get even further away from the acronym and thereby the associated preconceived notions and stigmas, 'manufactured intelligence,' or MI, to be pronounced 'me') and no doubt to the chagrin of Putnam and Searle, the topic is far from closed.
Not only do recent advances in computing and technology open up new avenues for this discussion to take place, many of the original refutations stand on grounds no less shaky than the arguments they intend to refute. First, in an all too brief response to Putnam (while not included in the reading, it must be mentioned) his ideas of a computer's (or in his case, a brain in a vat's) inability to directly reference something in a given physical reality rests on his ability to prove that we, as human beings, are capable of direct reference of a given physical reality. This is a very difficult task that has been attempted time and time again, always with a result which leaves those with objectivist desires wanting. Without a clearly defined description of a necessary connection between a tree, the responses in my brain caused by it (be they chemical, electric, quantum or otherwise), and the subsequent usage of a word that is meant to represent the sensation in our mind that we believe is caused by the tree, we have no real advantageous grounds to say that humans can ever directly reference the tree. There is no identifiable constant that is in all three, the tree, the thoughts I have of the tree, and the words I use to 'reference' it. Therefore, if we cannot directly reference something, then to hold that requirement of any MI is the type of double standard that we have held against other conscious modes, including animals as well as other people.
The above argument also applies almost equally to Searle's concept of 'understanding.' To claim a computer has no understanding of a story, he must at first tell us what it means to understand (and he seems to have a very anthropocentric idea of the meaning of the word). If I can ask a computer to add 2 and 2, and that computer gives me the answer 4, then how can we say that it is not understood by the computer? If, in order to work with numbers, one must have a working understanding of them and the mathematical functions necessary to manipulate them, such as it is clear that the computer understands the concepts of 2, 4, and addition through the very fact that it produces the correct answer. Perhaps this is a very rudimentary understanding, but understanding, nonetheless. Further, there are many actions taken by definitively conscious beings that take place without a clear or immediate understanding. We don't 'understand' many things that we successfully work with on a day to day basis, yet we do not consider this lack of understanding a lack of consciousness, and we wouldn't say that we were non-conscious before a fuller understanding of a thing, and somehow conscious afterwards. But, as Searle missed, understanding is not consciousness.
Additionally, the arguments made by Searle against 'strong AI' take into account certain assumptions that make many aspects of his argument invalid. He attacks a position that is actually not AI (or MI) at all, rather a simulation of human consciousness. These are two different things. Of course, it is a no-brainer (lol) that human consciousness cannot be displayed by a computer (or other such device). It lacks the necessary data-collection interfaces required for human consciousness (in our case, a biological framework for sense reception, such as sight, touch, etc). So, his argument seems more like this: a computer cannot be conscious in the same way as a human, to which I say, 'no shit, Sherlock.' But, all of this says nothing about whether or not that computer may possess some other form of consciousness.
And, quickly, to return to the Batman (Nagel), I feel that it was quite persuasive argument made that we cannot know what it is like to experience consciousness in another conscious entity. So, if we cannot know what it means for another conscious thing to be conscious, we also do not know what it means to be conscious in any universal sense. It therefore seems a touch premature to proclaim that any manufactured intelligence cannot be conscious.
In place of an "is-it-or-isn't-it" approach to consciousness, I propose we use a scale on which are various degrees of consciousness. The question becomes not 'is it conscious?' but rather 'how conscious is it?'
Have you seen the sequences on Friendly AI (http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Friendly_AI) over at LessWrong?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 31, 2013, 12:55:56 PM
Have you seen the sequences on Friendly AI (http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Friendly_AI) over at LessWrong?
I have now. Thnx for the link.
For some reason, tonight I cannot make my brain go the other way to figure out how to undo equations I know how to do frontword. :(
If I know how to get to J.s from Hz, how is it that I cannot figure out how to go the other way? Is driving me fucking nuts.
Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on November 06, 2013, 03:04:16 AM
For some reason, tonight I cannot make my brain go the other way to figure out how to undo equations I know how to do frontword. :(
If I know how to get to J.s from Hz, how is it that I cannot figure out how to go the other way? Is driving me fucking nuts.
Try turning the paper upside down.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
:lulz:
J.s (Joules times seconds right? nomatter) to Hz? Hz is just 'per second'
You said you already did this so this is more to check if we are talking about the same thing: divide by (J.s.s)
So the reverse would be multiply by (J.s.s)
Right?
Quote from: :regret: on November 06, 2013, 12:03:28 PM
J.s (Joules times seconds right? nomatter) to Hz? Hz is just 'per second'
You said you already did this so this is more to check if we are talking about the same thing: divide by (J.s.s)
So the reverse would be multiply by (J.s.s)
Right?
I don't think so, because 1/s is frequency, not energy, so it ALSO has to be converted to Joules using Planck's Constant. But my brain is all fucked up right now.
I'm actually trying to get to wavelength but once I get to 1/s wavelength is easy. But I see what you're saying now, if I have J I can divide J by Planck's Constant and I'm left with 1/s, and from there I can just use wavelength = speed of light/frequency. Derp.
I should not try to math while sick.
OK, I've got this. Now I can work on Rydberg's Constant. :lol:
Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on November 06, 2013, 06:42:24 PM
OK, I've got this. Now I can work on Rydberg's Constant. :lol:
Glad to be of help with my halfdegraded memories of unit conversions.
Anyway, math+sick is great if you want to invent new maths. I completely figured out 3-dimensional ramifications of exponential growth in a fever dream. It was not fun, the cube kept growing and crushing me. Fever is not so good for the whole logic thingy.
She He or -
Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on September 30, 2013, 05:33:21 PM
Hate my chem teacher. Hate hate hate.
2:03/bbc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rydberg_constant {dit: Today at 02:03:55.am
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2:11:10.01 ay at 02:11:27 am (Olymic Torch - Space watch 2:13 2:13:26
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As of 2012, R∞ is the most accurately measured fundamental physical constant.[1]250 K/s Hays / bbc / video / TV //// Typhoon 300K/H Philipines 400mm rain 12 hrs
According to the 2010 CODATA the constant is: v a photo v
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/7/a/f7a7a87c6fe18ac71e820422ec7e3b59.png)
where m_\text{e} is the rest mass of the electron, e is the elementary charge, \varepsilon_0 is the permittivity of free space, h is the Planck constant, and c is the speed of light in a vacuum. DW.TV :
"THE CRIME OF THE ¢ENTURY" Po210 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonium
LONG DELAYS IN EFFECT ^ 2:34 | y at 02:34:55.1 am by hirley0
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^ ThAT constant is often used in atomic physics in the form of the Rydberg unit
kEEP IN MIND that during this period of time
there is an ongoing attack by the BED BUG BRIGADE bbb 4 short
& this is very VERY anaoying + Time consuming
V is very Very X_straw.ordinary | K
.1 "the rest mass of the electron" {yep: there is only 1 {{get over it
a. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_rest_mass 9.10938215(45)×10−31Kg
b: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron 9.10938291(40)×10−31 kg
c? http://www.universetoday.com/45079/electron-mass/ m e, 9.109 382 15
2: he elementary charge of the electron, e
a. measured value of approximately 1.602176565(35)×10−19 coulombs cgs system
b: wrong system {get used to it
c? http://www.universetoday.com/38394/charge-of-electron/
3? varepsilon_0 is the permittivity 0K if VA repulsion is permitted
a. i want nothing further to do with this 1
b: tôi muốn gì hơn nữa để làm với 1 này
UNNNNGH
After today's class I just dropped the Tu/Th chemistry class next term for the M/W class.
Drawbacks: I lose the amazingawesome lab partner (and hopefully forever friend) I had this term, I have to carry all my books to class (they are heavy as fuck) my class days will be VERY long, and Wednesday becomes an insane grueling 10-hour long day of schoolin' that I don't return from until 9 at night. Plus I will undoubtedly spend extra money on food when I forget/don't have time to pack two meals.
Advantages; I'll have Tuesdays and Thursdays off completely other than homework (much of which I will probably complete during the 3 boresome hours between classes) and I will have a really good chemistry teacher rather than the horrible one I am currently saddled with, and will most likely be able to salvage my GPA.
Should I ever get the magic words from URI, I already have my classes picked for next semester. Historic Underwater Archaeology, Women of the Middle Ages, and Jews Living in the Islamic World. I'm going to TRY to get into Advanced Latin Readings if they let me, because it's an undergrad class in a different department. They're doing the Epistles of Pliny the Younger and some Cicero, which means proper hair-pulling fun.
So far, I've been told by the graduate school that "Applications are currently being processed and I will be notified when a decision has been made" and then last night my presumptive advisor-to-be's email got hacked, so I got something from her, and nearly did back flips til I saw it was a spam link. So today I was really rather grumpy around campus.
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 04, 2013, 03:22:58 AM
UNNNNGH
After today's class I just dropped the Tu/Th chemistry class next term for the M/W class.
Drawbacks: I lose the amazingawesome lab partner (and hopefully forever friend) I had this term, I have to carry all my books to class (they are heavy as fuck) my class days will be VERY long, and Wednesday becomes an insane grueling 10-hour long day of schoolin' that I don't return from until 9 at night. Plus I will undoubtedly spend extra money on food when I forget/don't have time to pack two meals.
Advantages; I'll have Tuesdays and Thursdays off completely other than homework (much of which I will probably complete during the 3 boresome hours between classes) and I will have a really good chemistry teacher rather than the horrible one I am currently saddled with, and will most likely be able to salvage my GPA.
You should have gone for the Tho/th Chemistry class. He has the head of an baboon you know. And the ass of a baboon.
Look, he's basically a baboon alright?
Quote from: Payne on December 04, 2013, 05:46:03 AM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 04, 2013, 03:22:58 AM
UNNNNGH
After today's class I just dropped the Tu/Th chemistry class next term for the M/W class.
Drawbacks: I lose the amazingawesome lab partner (and hopefully forever friend) I had this term, I have to carry all my books to class (they are heavy as fuck) my class days will be VERY long, and Wednesday becomes an insane grueling 10-hour long day of schoolin' that I don't return from until 9 at night. Plus I will undoubtedly spend extra money on food when I forget/don't have time to pack two meals.
Advantages; I'll have Tuesdays and Thursdays off completely other than homework (much of which I will probably complete during the 3 boresome hours between classes) and I will have a really good chemistry teacher rather than the horrible one I am currently saddled with, and will most likely be able to salvage my GPA.
You should have gone for the Tho/th Chemistry class. He has the head of an baboon you know. And the ass of a baboon.
Look, he's basically a baboon alright?
:lulz:
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 04, 2013, 06:35:44 AM
Quote from: Payne on December 04, 2013, 05:46:03 AM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 04, 2013, 03:22:58 AM
UNNNNGH
After today's class I just dropped the Tu/Th chemistry class next term for the M/W class.
Drawbacks: I lose the amazingawesome lab partner (and hopefully forever friend) I had this term, I have to carry all my books to class (they are heavy as fuck) my class days will be VERY long, and Wednesday becomes an insane grueling 10-hour long day of schoolin' that I don't return from until 9 at night. Plus I will undoubtedly spend extra money on food when I forget/don't have time to pack two meals.
Advantages; I'll have Tuesdays and Thursdays off completely other than homework (much of which I will probably complete during the 3 boresome hours between classes) and I will have a really good chemistry teacher rather than the horrible one I am currently saddled with, and will most likely be able to salvage my GPA.
You should have gone for the Tho/th Chemistry class. He has the head of an baboon you know. And the ass of a baboon.
Look, he's basically a baboon alright?
:lulz:
Sometimes, he's an Ibis.
Quote from: Payne on December 04, 2013, 05:46:03 AM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 04, 2013, 03:22:58 AM
UNNNNGH
After today's class I just dropped the Tu/Th chemistry class next term for the M/W class.
Drawbacks: I lose the amazingawesome lab partner (and hopefully forever friend) I had this term, I have to carry all my books to class (they are heavy as fuck) my class days will be VERY long, and Wednesday becomes an insane grueling 10-hour long day of schoolin' that I don't return from until 9 at night. Plus I will undoubtedly spend extra money on food when I forget/don't have time to pack two meals.
Advantages; I'll have Tuesdays and Thursdays off completely other than homework (much of which I will probably complete during the 3 boresome hours between classes) and I will have a really good chemistry teacher rather than the horrible one I am currently saddled with, and will most likely be able to salvage my GPA.
You should have gone for the Tho/th Chemistry class. He has the head of an baboon you know. And the ass of a baboon.
Look, he's basically a baboon alright?
:lulz:
Took the acuplacer for the second time.
Look out, Pre-Algebra, IMA FUCK YOU UP.
Quote from: Alty on December 04, 2013, 05:44:27 PM
Took the acuplacer for the second time.
Look out, Pre-Algebra, IMA FUCK YOU UP.
You are going to OWN THIS!!!
I am going to be interested in seeing how many people are left in my chemistry class tomorrow. The instructor made a point of telling us what the minimum score that would still pass the class would be. Only about a dozen people showed up to lab. I know 221 is a weeder class but I thought they were trying to move away from that model... I guess this guy didn't get the memo.
I kind of feel like it should send a message that if 3/4 of your class drop, maaayyyyybe you're doing something wrong?
I also can't help wondering why people drop in the last three weeks. It's too late to get a refund, and if they have to re-take the class anyway, why not stick it out and re-take it next term? People do that with A&P regularly to get the A they need for nursing school.
Hmmm I wonder if I can audit Ochem and A&P before I take them for serious? That would be awesome.
Pretty sure Income Tax is gonna be a big ole F. Maybe I can hammer away at a low C, a sympathy C maybe.
Fucking income tax. I knew I should get an accountent, but now exactly why.
Two exams down (pre-1500 World History and Examen Facultatum (historiography and methodology)), one to go (pre-1814 Norwegian History). I've been an awful student this first semester, but I'm pretty sure I'll pass these. I need to learn to allocate my time better, though. The difference between high school (30 compulsory class hours per week + homework) and uni (at most maybe 7 compulsory class hours per week) is crazy.
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 04, 2013, 09:56:56 PM
Two exams down (pre-1500 World History and Examen Facultatum (historiography and methodology)), one to go (pre-1814 Norwegian History). I've been an awful student this first semester, but I'm pretty sure I'll pass these. I need to learn to allocate my time better, though. The difference between high school (30 compulsory class hours per week + homework) and uni (at most maybe 7 compulsory class hours per week) is crazy.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I'm taking a full load next term and I'll only have class three days a week. Which means that the other four days I have to be on my OWN ass about studying.
I realized today that my only complaint about my biology instructor is that he doesn't assign homework. At all. And other than halfheartedly poking through the book and watching Crash Course Biology videos on Youtube, I don't really do anything that could be considered "studying" for that class. He's just such a brilliant lecturer that I've been kind of coasting on that.
Looking at online programs at Norwich University in VT. It's a brick and mortar private military college that offers online MA degrees in such fields as history, military history, and diplomacy. Prices are good, and you're required to attend a physical graduation. I have 2 of my friends doing the military history track now, and another friend that actually works there. They say it's a good choice if I'm going to be bouncing around for a bit. I'm just always skeptical of online degrees, especially with the market being flooded by for-profit bullshits like University of Phoenix, DeVry, et al.
My psych professor is working on her PhD online in some school in LA. Only thing is, she has to fly there four times a year to do stuff in person. But quite a few reputable universities now offer distance learning programs.
In other news, after my chemistry professor's 2-hour lecture on orbital hybridization I was completely lost, so I went to my lab instructor and she explained it to me perfectly clearly in 10 minutes. I'm taking her class next term, because after he explained it it made NO sense at all.
GODDAMMIT the chemistry OWLs were due on the 10th and he changed them to the 8th. That DICK.
He KNOWS that most of the class has a bio final on the 9th, and the chem final isn't until the 12th. The only reason he could have had for doing that was because he's a malicious prick.
Wow. Dick move.
I tried an Android app course through Coursura, which was through he U.of Illinois.
Garbage.
However the Intro to Prog on Udacity is pretty awesome.
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 05, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
He KNOWS that most of the class has a bio final on the 9th, and the chem final isn't until the 12th. The only reason he could have had for doing that was because he's a malicious prick.
I had a professor do something similar, which is why I'm skipping my earlier class today to finish work for the night class. Seriously, we don't have enough shit on our plate during finals, but they need to make it convenient for THEM to not have to come in next week.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 05, 2013, 07:16:20 PM
Wow. Dick move.
Several other students have commented that he gives the strong impression that he doesn't want to be there and hates us.
I'm pretty sure that's true.
Quote from: Suu on December 05, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 05, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
He KNOWS that most of the class has a bio final on the 9th, and the chem final isn't until the 12th. The only reason he could have had for doing that was because he's a malicious prick.
I had a professor do something similar, which is why I'm skipping my earlier class today to finish work for the night class. Seriously, we don't have enough shit on our plate during finals, but they need to make it convenient for THEM to not have to come in next week.
What's somewhat more awful is that OWLs are online chemistry questions which are automatically graded. It doesn't even impact his convenience, he still has to come in and lecture on Tuesday. Which, I guarantee, he won't actually do... he'll come in and give us some handouts to work on during class time, while condescendingly doing as little as possible to answer any questions students bring to him.
Quote from: Suu on December 05, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
they need to make it convenient for THEM to not have to come in next week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSRg9GPfFgE
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 05, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 05, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 05, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
He KNOWS that most of the class has a bio final on the 9th, and the chem final isn't until the 12th. The only reason he could have had for doing that was because he's a malicious prick.
I had a professor do something similar, which is why I'm skipping my earlier class today to finish work for the night class. Seriously, we don't have enough shit on our plate during finals, but they need to make it convenient for THEM to not have to come in next week.
What's somewhat more awful is that OWLs are online chemistry questions which are automatically graded. It doesn't even impact his convenience, he still has to come in and lecture on Tuesday. Which, I guarantee, he won't actually do... he'll come in and give us some handouts to work on during class time, while condescendingly doing as little as possible to answer any questions students bring to him.
Let me guess, it's a Pearson Ed Online *whatever* Lab?
That reminds me, I need to send back my poli sci book to the rental company I got it from.
Quote from: Suu on December 05, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 05, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 05, 2013, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 05, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
He KNOWS that most of the class has a bio final on the 9th, and the chem final isn't until the 12th. The only reason he could have had for doing that was because he's a malicious prick.
I had a professor do something similar, which is why I'm skipping my earlier class today to finish work for the night class. Seriously, we don't have enough shit on our plate during finals, but they need to make it convenient for THEM to not have to come in next week.
What's somewhat more awful is that OWLs are online chemistry questions which are automatically graded. It doesn't even impact his convenience, he still has to come in and lecture on Tuesday. Which, I guarantee, he won't actually do... he'll come in and give us some handouts to work on during class time, while condescendingly doing as little as possible to answer any questions students bring to him.
Let me guess, it's a Pearson Ed Online *whatever* Lab?
That reminds me, I need to send back my poli sci book to the rental company I got it from.
Cengage, but yeah, same basic idea. It's not lab, but online homework problems.
I actually suspect he's doing it to try to catch a few more borderline-passes out so he can flunk them. There are probably a bunch of people who aren't even going to look at it until Monday after the bio final.
Guh, just home from class + study session with lab buddy. We went and hung out in our lab instructor's office for 45 minutes and worked on homework and did problems and stuff.
Lab instructor expressed shock at our midterm grade. She was like "WHAT IS THIS HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE you are both A students!"
But anyway, I don't think we can possibly even get below a B because of our homework and lab scores, but I'm still determined as fuck to get an A on the final. It's just got to happen.
HEY TWID
Have you had your bio final yet? How are you feeling about it?
So apparently they mail me my diploma in February. So much for instant gratification. :sadbanana:
Oh, I don't know if I've mentioned this yet, but I will have my decision for graduate admissions in January. You know, 2 weeks before classes begin. I was flabbergasted to hear that, but it's the same for both graduate and undergraduate spring admissions. I thought rolling admission meant I didn't HAVE to wait, but apparently, URI is special. Very special.
Quote from: Suu on December 11, 2013, 05:37:40 PM
So apparently they mail me my diploma in February. So much for instant gratification. :sadbanana:
Oh, I don't know if I've mentioned this yet, but I will have my decision for graduate admissions in January. You know, 2 weeks before classes begin. I was flabbergasted to hear that, but it's the same for both graduate and undergraduate spring admissions. I thought rolling admission meant I didn't HAVE to wait, but apparently, URI is special. Very special.
Hahaha wow!
The thing that's funny about that is that, at least at PSU, two weeks before the start of the term = no way are you getting into any classes. ANY.
I had my decision in May, for September entry. I had to apply in January.
I don't know how other places do it, but in the UK, it seems that you have to be preparing for a postgrad course at least 9 months before you start it.
I applied in October and the deadline was November 15th.
That acceptance date is about right for Spring or Fall entry. Doesn't work so well for Winter term entry, but it's a bit unusual to start a grad program in Winter term, isn't it? I know the program I'm applying for has a January application deadline and only starts in Fall.
My school does both Spring and Fall admissions. Our Fall deadline is February 1st. :? You are correct in that most graduate schools do not do spring admissions, and there's definitely better schools in the area for my major other than URI, such as UConn and their massive history department of win, but with a December graduation, and then the looming threat of student loan repayment, I wanted to get back into school as soon as possible. The fact that I already have a good rapport with my department at URI is big, though. Sometimes that's more important. I have no doubt I'll be admitted, but this waiting game is not fun. Especially when I heard back from CUNY Brooklyn a week after my app was in that I was waitlisted for Fall admissions.
In all honesty, me not getting into URI for the spring isn't terrible, because it will at least give me access to different schools, but it will also mean relocating the Navy base in NH so I can live with the BF and work for 6 months, because I cannot support this apartment by myself without financial aid with the payments of my student loans. No way. There's also the online option at Norwich University, which is a legit school in Vermont, but I enjoy classroom interaction, so I'd rather not have to resort to that.
Are you on the semester system? We're on the quarter system, so the timing is a little different.
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 11, 2013, 09:24:45 PM
Are you on the semester system? We're on the quarter system, so the timing is a little different.
Yep. Which would definitely make our registration timings different.
QuoteU OF RHODE ISLAND MAIN CAMPUS notified us that you graduated or are now enrolled less than half time. This means that your student loans have just entered a 6-month grace period before your first payment is due.
:kingmeh:
Quote from: Suu on December 12, 2013, 01:32:08 AM
QuoteU OF RHODE ISLAND MAIN CAMPUS notified us that you graduated or are now enrolled less than half time. This means that your student loans have just entered a 6-month grace period before your first payment is due.
:kingmeh:
Surely you can do what everyone else does and file for a deferral. Especially once you have been accepted into a graduate program.
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 12, 2013, 04:42:14 AM
Quote from: Suu on December 12, 2013, 01:32:08 AM
QuoteU OF RHODE ISLAND MAIN CAMPUS notified us that you graduated or are now enrolled less than half time. This means that your student loans have just entered a 6-month grace period before your first payment is due.
:kingmeh:
Surely you can do what everyone else does and file for a deferral. Especially once you have been accepted into a graduate program.
Once I'm matriculating again, all my loans go back into deferment automatically. I am, however, going to pay off these two very evil Sallie Mae private loans that came back into repayment from my first degree ALREADY as to keep them off my back as fast as possible. In fact, my plan is, once I'm done, to consolidate my federal debt and keep it deferred (low interest rate) and pay off my private loans in massive chunks, but watch SLMA like a hawk when I do it to ensure they don't just apply it automatically to interest and put the rest into escrow like they've been known to do, so your loan doesn't get paid down and keeps accumulating interest, and your money just sits, waiting for you to find out, call, and bitch. I've already told them on multiple occasions that I would drive to Delaware just to watch them put the payments in myself. They don't like that.
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Quote from: Suu on December 11, 2013, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 11, 2013, 09:24:45 PM
Are you on the semester system? We're on the quarter system, so the timing is a little different.
Yep. Which would definitely make our registration timings different.
Easily con fussed:
Quote from: Suu on December 12, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
Once I'm matriculating again, all my loans go back into deferment automatically.
Aren't you just the trusting soul?
The gears of finance are lubed with people who assume the system will do as it says.
"Turn off engine before changing fan belt."
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 12, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
Quote from: Suu on December 12, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
Once I'm matriculating again, all my loans go back into deferment automatically.
Aren't you just the trusting soul?
The gears of finance are lubed with people who assume the system will do as it says.
"Turn off engine before changing fan belt."
Hiccups definitely happen, but all student information is uploaded by automatic batch to the Federal Student Loan Database and Clearinghouse every semester. Yes, that's right America, every enrolled college student in the country is in a database accessible by everyone, and information is routed to every lender about matriculation status. With a SSN, I can find out pretty much anything I need to know about a borrower. I've done this for Dimo a few times when I was still working in financial aid. Your refund card tracks just about every purchase and reports it back to your school, too.
The business is shady as Fuck. Richter, Squid, and I can tell you all about it.
Hey, all you people in school, this might be worth a read: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/hear-all-ye-people-hearken-o-earth/