We've done this before, but I am interested in a slightly different take on it, especially in light of how it went before. I'm curious about not only what people recognize about their own privileges, but also what they see as their privilege detractions, and what others see as their potentially missed privileges. I would encourage everyone to recognize that privileges are not brags, but elements of each person's makeup which are unearned benefits. In that light, we are all making ourselves vulnerable by stating aspects of our being that we have been granted by no merit of our own.
I will start with my own privileges:
I am light-skinned, in a society which values light-skinned nonwhite people above dark-skinned nonwhite people.
I have good hair, by the above metric
I have fairly symmetrical and pleasing features
I have clear unblemished skin
Both of my parents are highly educated
I am above average intelligence
These are my privileges. I will talk later about my detractions. For now, I would like to hear about your privileges.
In (I think) order of importance
Male
White
Born lower middle class
Intelligent
No congenital defects
Parents divorced
I'm a straight, white, able-bodied and fairly fit cisgendered adult male between average height and tall with blonde hair and blue eyes. My metabolism thus far has allowed me to pay no attention to the relationship between my weight/health and my diet. I have a youthful appearance and seem to possess features which encourage others to trust me.
I am neurotypical with above average intelligence and have not encountered any barrier to getting an education. I speak English and it is an official language where I live. I am not poor and further have an income which gives me a fair degree of freedom. If I lost my income, I have a network of family and friends who could support me until I regained my income and likely indefinitely.
I am monogamous and any kinks I have are within the realm of social acceptability; vanilla enough that their discovery wouldn't threaten my job or reputation. I'm married, so don't have to worry about people speculating on my singledom or the length of time I've been in a defacto relationship.
Hmmm, this is interesting!
Privileges: Well, I'm a white, cisgender adult with a well-established career and a comfortable salary, especially considering my age. I'm in an opposite-gender, monogamous marriage. I'm neurotypical and have above-average intelligence.
"Passing" privileges: the aforementioned opposite-gender marriage means I no longer have to out myself as queer unless I am comfortable doing so. I also have severe issues with my knees which are invisible to most people.
Detractions: I'm a short, overweight, tattooed woman who grew up below the poverty line. I am infertile and suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.
For the most part I have had the privilege to grow up in a country that had good education, free health care, with kind people to look after me.
I'm tall, male, moderately attractive and have a modest natural intelligence for mathematics and science. I don't know where interest in this stems from be it genes, family influence or the cartoons I watched as a kid.
As a male I automatically had an easier time with less social stigma in school college and the workplace although I was subject to racism in secondary school it was never excessive.
I was privileged with a grant that allowed me to go through college when otherwise I would never have afforded it. This is not a privilege that is readily available for anyone here any more, and those who have it have less then half of what I had.
Using this grant I was able to get a degree in Physics and Instrumentation, which in turn allowed me to get my first Job in Academia through contacts made while on the course.
Since then my standard of living has increased to about three times what it was when I was doing horrible work in security work and when I was working in a shop.
I am now employed in an engineering position when most of those my age have emigrated, and those who haven't 1 in 4 of them is unemployed. Those that are employed find it hard to get work meaningful to their degree if they can manage to go to college. The conditions of my job are relaxed, the work is rewarding, and though I work long hours I don't have to. From our building I can see across the road from me the junior doctors are striking because of the horrific conditions they face and the 100 hour work weeks they routinely do and it reminds me of how easy I have it.
Pretty much the direction of my life all stems back to that grant, it has brought me from the poverty line to living debt free and comfortably, it doesn't feel like something I had to work for despite having to go through college and pass the classes to get the job. And though I have paid the grant back in taxes over the last three years I don't feel that other 18 year olds coming out of school have half the chances I had. I think I would like to sponsor a student some time.
What I have seen is that so few women go for physics or electronics, I would very much like to be able to support that in some way.
From birth, I have the following privileges (these don't change over time):
- I am male.
- I have above average intelligence.
- I had a minor birth defect (bad eyesight) but because I was born to a middle class family, it has since been treated.
From circunstances, I have the following privileges (these may change over time):
- I am healthy and young, but not underage, so I have all the rights and privileges adults have.
- I have a very supporting family, so I have the privilege of going to college, and being able to work in a job I find interesting and enjoyable, instead of having to take a better paying but much less pleasant job.
- I have a very supporting family. Listing these twice because they paid for my Mystic Eyes of Depth Perception.
- I have a very supporting family. Listing these thrice because even though I didn't go to expensive schools, they made sure I had a good education. They paid for English classes and Internet access, and many books.
- I am light skinned and never experienced racism.
Tall, dark, and handsome white guy with great hair.
Extremely intelligent
Good salary, health care and benefits
In a position of leadership and influence
Connections to powerful white (and also some black) guys
French in a largely French community.
I have to admit, I've got quite a bit going for me.
I live in a country where education and health care is freely available and of high quality, and unemployment is very low.
I was born into a well-educated upper middle class family. I've been formally employed for a total of two days in my entire life, but I still live quite comfortably, supported by my parents and my goverment issued student loan.
I am a largely straight, cisgender, neurotypical white dude.
I am fairly attractive and fairly fit, and seem to possess features that encourage others to trust me.
I am above-average intelligence.
I speak a dialect of Norwegian that has somewhat rural, working-class connotations, but I can easily code switch to a more standard Oslo dialect.
Detractions:
My parents divorced when I was 10.
I have a propensity for anxiety and depression.
White, cis-gendered, conventionally attractive (highly symmetrical features, appropriate proportions, body gravitates towards a healthy weight, average height), intelligent, able-bodied, English-speaking, American.
Can pass as neurotypical, monogamous, and heterosexual.
Assorted other shit:
~ had access to excellent public school system as a child
~ test well
~ earned scholarship solely due to inherent ability to test well
~ first and second husband are the same race (white), so the kids can pass as children of their step-father if no one asks
~ all-white family
~ prefer a look that is generally considered "feminine" and "conservative" (no tattoos, no piercings, long hair, occasionally wear skirts and dresses, some jewelry)
~ parents stayed married and had a healthy relationship with one another
~ never experienced abuse or neglect as a child
~ never experienced significant trauma of any kind
~ of Irish descent in the Boston area
White, cisgendered, blue-eyed American female representing 2 of the largest former immigrant cultures in the country (Italian and Irish) and have roots back to the colonial period in which the family was Loyalist to the Crown of England during the Revolution. Raised in a lower-middle class household with a younger brother and a younger sister and both parents. I am college educated and have lived in 3 states in my lifetime, where I attended both public and private schools.
I am a white male.
I live very comfortably.
I have an easy, cushy job a lot of guys would like to have.
I have access to healthcare.
I was born into a family of people interested in culture and art.
I live in a place where people are rarely killed, and little violence takes place.
I have a good sense of humor.
Cisgendered white Norwegian male. News media knows about my kinks, but I pass as vanilla heterosexual most of the time.
I love comfortably even without a job.
Family worked their way from working class to upper middle class.
Educated in the field of arts.
Reasonably attractive.
Above average intelligence.
- White
- Male (cisgendered)
- Heterosexual
- Born middle to upper-middle class, depending how you look at it.
- Born to parents with higher education, who were themselves the children of at least one parent with higher education
- Born to extremely dedicated and supportive parents who successfully concealed any marital strife they had in order to provide a stable, safe home environment
- Learned to read at a young age (thanks to aforementioned dedicated parents), read extensively as a child. Developed a rich knowledge base upon which I learned new things more quickly than most of my peers as a result, especially in the sciences.
- Reasonably good health, and a high metabolism/low appetite that has made it relatively easy to stay thin in a severely fattening food culture.
- Average to slightly above-average height relative to the society I live in, which favors tall people.
I thought cisgendered and heterosexual were the same thing??
:?
Quote from: Hoopla on October 08, 2013, 03:55:57 PM
I thought cisgendered and heterosexual were the same thing??
:?
So did I, but that's because a large segment of the crowd that invented the term have the communication skills of a gnat and completely fucking failed to popularize the actual (useful) meaning of the term in the common dialogue.
Cis means you have the same gender identity as your biological gender. That's it.
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on October 08, 2013, 03:59:38 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 08, 2013, 03:55:57 PM
I thought cisgendered and heterosexual were the same thing??
:?
So did I, but that's because a large segment of the crowd that invented the term have the communication skills of a gnat and completely fucking failed to popularize the actual (useful) meaning of the term in the common dialogue.
Cis means you have the same gender identity as your biological gender. That's it.
Ooooooooooh. Schooled.
Sorry for the threadjack.
Others have brought up a number of good ones that apply to me, which I completely forgot (because that's the nature of privilege) such as:
American-born
Cisgendered
English as a first language
Physically able
Functionally heterosexual
Functionally neurotypical enough to get by
Pretty sure there are more I'm forgetting or have never seen.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 08, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
Others have brought up a number of good ones that apply to me, which I completely forgot (because that's the nature of privilege) such as:
American-born
Cisgendered
English as a first language
Physically able
Functionally heterosexual
Functionally neurotypical enough to get by
Pretty sure there are more I'm forgetting or have never seen.
I am also all of these things.
Suddenly, every little fucking first world problem is a joke.
I think my main ones (White/Male/UK/CISHET,) have already been covered, not too dissimilar to P3nt really. One that seems worth stating is "Literate". I'm considering this separate to any intelligence aspects as it's a choice that seems largely determined for you. If you have a supporting home environment and schooling system then your chance of being functionally literate is considerably higher and I would strongly suggest that this affects later quality of life to a large degree.
Interested to see where this goes though, I've been considering my own relative level of privilege on and off since posting here.
Privileges are, pretty much by definition, things we take for granted and unless we have it pointed out to us are typically things we don't think about other people not having. One of the interesting things about the interplay of privilege and culture is that those who lack one or several privileges afforded to others often forget about their own privileges, which is part of what I like about this particular exercise; I am a woman of color and I was raised in poverty, which means I lack the privileges of being a white middle-or-upper-class man, but I nonetheless need to be aware and conscious of the privileges I do have.
I'll add "raised in an intellectual environment".
White
Blue Eyed
American-born
Born middle class
Above-average intelligence
Learned to read young
Fairly symmetrical features
Parents still married
Parents well-educated
Supportive home environment
Mother retired to stay at home when I was born (I assume there must be some privilege in there)
Heterosexual
Cisgendered
English as a first language
Fairly quick metabolism
Physically able
Functionally neurotypical
Some of these posts are including things that are making me question where the line is drawn for "privilege" and just "shit that's going awesome for me." Is having a job really a privilege? Is "not being homeless" one?
In no particular order...
White.
Male.
Upper-Middle class household, incredibly supportive parents.
Given access to computers in one form or another from the age of 2.
Socialized in a cosmopolitan environment and exposed to a wide number of races, religions and sexualities from an early age.
Never forced into a religious environment without my consent.
Able to attend university.
Born in the greater london area.
Functionally neurotypical.
Born in a place and at a time when the fact I was a very early baby merely meant 'severely damaged eyesight' rather than 'dead'. I found out a few years ago that I had an older sister who was not that lucky, which hammers it home.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:16:18 PM
Some of these posts are including things that are making me question where the line is drawn for "privilege" and just "shit that's going awesome for me." Is having a job really a privilege? Is "not being homeless" one?
I think roger defined it well before with (and I am paraphrasing) "A privilege is something that can be withdrawn" Is a job a right, is a home a right? They should be be but in reality it doesn't appear that way.
White or mostly white and appear white
Cisgendered
Good IQ/literate , at least relative to a lot of the yahoos where I live
Not disabled
Weight in what's considered the normal range
English speaking
Straight
Quote from: Faust on October 08, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:16:18 PM
Some of these posts are including things that are making me question where the line is drawn for "privilege" and just "shit that's going awesome for me." Is having a job really a privilege? Is "not being homeless" one?
I think roger defined it well before with (and I am paraphrasing) "A privilege is something that can be withdrawn" Is a job a right, is a home a right? They should be be but in reality it doesn't appear that way.
That doesn't match up with the things we've been talking about, though. You can't withdraw "white." I've been operating with "privilege is a thing you are born with or is otherwise given to you through no action of your own that fairly or unfairly gives you an advantage in life."
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 08, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:16:18 PM
Some of these posts are including things that are making me question where the line is drawn for "privilege" and just "shit that's going awesome for me." Is having a job really a privilege? Is "not being homeless" one?
I think roger defined it well before with (and I am paraphrasing) "A privilege is something that can be withdrawn" Is a job a right, is a home a right? They should be be but in reality it doesn't appear that way.
That doesn't match up with the things we've been talking about, though. You can't withdraw "white." I've been operating with "privilege is a thing you are born with or is otherwise given to you through no action of your own that fairly or unfairly gives you an advantage in life."
I think it all falls under the "otherwise given" category. White in and of itself doesn't offer many advantages other then camouflage on snowy hills. It's the predisposition that people have to treat you differently because you are white that gives the advantage and that mindset can be withdrawn. Or maybe I misunderstood the Right V's Privilege.
I have a right to find a job and I have the privilege of being in a Job. The first can't be taken away (excluding prison scenarios and such), the second can.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:16:18 PM
Some of these posts are including things that are making me question where the line is drawn for "privilege" and just "shit that's going awesome for me." Is having a job really a privilege? Is "not being homeless" one?
I define privilege in this context as something that I enjoy the benefits of without having done anything, myself, to earn it. So, while some of the circumstances that led to me purchasing a home were derived from privilege, I don't consider owning my home to be an inborn privilege.
The same could be said of a job. It is probable that privilege (being white, for example, or being highly intelligent) factors into having gotten a job, but having the job, itself, isn't a privilege, it is the fruit of privilege. If you had an active hand in achieving something, it isn't privilege... though it is certainly influenced by privilege. I am doing well in college and own a home because of my privileges, but they are not inborn privileges in and of themselves.
So, "being a good drummer" isn't, but "growing up in an environment that provided the time and resources for learning to play the drums" is, yeah?
And Faust is also right, privilege is itself contextual. In the context of a different society, being white would not be a privilege.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 08, 2013, 06:04:18 PM
So, "being a good drummer" isn't, but "growing up in an environment that provided the time and resources for learning to play the drums" is, yeah?
Yes, exactly. Talent isn't privilege because it has to be developed, but having the resources given to you to be able to develop that talent is privilege.
Shit, a whole bunch of people posted while I was doing this. Hitting post anyway.
Quote from: Faust on October 08, 2013, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 08, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:16:18 PM
Some of these posts are including things that are making me question where the line is drawn for "privilege" and just "shit that's going awesome for me." Is having a job really a privilege? Is "not being homeless" one?
I think roger defined it well before with (and I am paraphrasing) "A privilege is something that can be withdrawn" Is a job a right, is a home a right? They should be be but in reality it doesn't appear that way.
That doesn't match up with the things we've been talking about, though. You can't withdraw "white." I've been operating with "privilege is a thing you are born with or is otherwise given to you through no action of your own that fairly or unfairly gives you an advantage in life."
I think it all falls under the "otherwise given" category. White in and of itself doesn't offer many advantages other then camouflage on snowy hills. It's the predisposition that people have to treat you differently because you are white that gives the advantage and that mindset can be withdrawn. Or maybe I misunderstood the Right V's Privilege.
I have a right to find a job and I have the privilege of being in a Job. The first can't be taken away (excluding prison scenarios and such), the second can.
You have to take an action to get a job (except in cases of extreme nepotism), which is why I wouldn't put it there, but shit like "extremely well connected family" or "access to college funds" would be a privilege. And you're right that skin color in and of itself grants no particular advantage, but it would be more accurately stated as "white in a society that gives advantages to white people," "heterosexual in a society that gives advantages to heterosexual people," etc. It's not a thing I can give away, it's not a thing I earned or worked for, and while I can contribute towards social changes I can't really control the fact that they exist.
Sorry if this was covered in an earlier thread, but I was thinking about it earlier and just want it down. There was some talk years ago about "crusties" or whatever the fuck the term is for "kids born into privilege that voluntarily live like vagrants," and there was a lot of shitting on them and I was having trouble with it because I could in some way identify with the drive to do that and I couldn't really articulate it. It comes down to not wanting to be in debt. Nobody, fucking nobody ever, wants to be in debt. It sucks. When people are made aware of the fact that the world gave them things, things that not everyone else had access to, that information can be interpreted as "you are in debt to the world for the privileges you were granted." Fleeing that debt, throwing away advantages that you had no part in attaining, is a juvenile response, but one that makes a certain amount of sense. Talking about privilege makes people uncomfortable, because some of them will come to the conclusion that the world expects something back for what they were given. That's when you get people yelling about how "NO ONE EVER GAVE ME A LEG UP" "I'M A SELF-MADE MAN" and on, and on. What they're saying is "DON'T PUT ME IN DEBT TO ANYTHING."
That brings me back to my college grant. Having that does make me feel indebted to society. Practically I'm not. I could just as easily forget about it now. And if it had been a college loan like other countries have I most certainly wouldn't consider wanting to give anything back to anyone else because that would have felt like a noose around my neck.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 06:15:33 PM
Shit, a whole bunch of people posted while I was doing this. Hitting post anyway.
Quote from: Faust on October 08, 2013, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 08, 2013, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 08, 2013, 05:16:18 PM
Some of these posts are including things that are making me question where the line is drawn for "privilege" and just "shit that's going awesome for me." Is having a job really a privilege? Is "not being homeless" one?
I think roger defined it well before with (and I am paraphrasing) "A privilege is something that can be withdrawn" Is a job a right, is a home a right? They should be be but in reality it doesn't appear that way.
That doesn't match up with the things we've been talking about, though. You can't withdraw "white." I've been operating with "privilege is a thing you are born with or is otherwise given to you through no action of your own that fairly or unfairly gives you an advantage in life."
I think it all falls under the "otherwise given" category. White in and of itself doesn't offer many advantages other then camouflage on snowy hills. It's the predisposition that people have to treat you differently because you are white that gives the advantage and that mindset can be withdrawn. Or maybe I misunderstood the Right V's Privilege.
I have a right to find a job and I have the privilege of being in a Job. The first can't be taken away (excluding prison scenarios and such), the second can.
You have to take an action to get a job (except in cases of extreme nepotism), which is why I wouldn't put it there, but shit like "extremely well connected family" or "access to college funds" would be a privilege. And you're right that skin color in and of itself grants no particular advantage, but it would be more accurately stated as "white in a society that gives advantages to white people," "heterosexual in a society that gives advantages to heterosexual people," etc. It's not a thing I can give away, it's not a thing I earned or worked for, and while I can contribute towards social changes I can't really control the fact that they exist.
Sorry if this was covered in an earlier thread, but I was thinking about it earlier and just want it down. There was some talk years ago about "crusties" or whatever the fuck the term is for "kids born into privilege that voluntarily live like vagrants," and there was a lot of shitting on them and I was having trouble with it because I could in some way identify with the drive to do that and I couldn't really articulate it. It comes down to not wanting to be in debt. Nobody, fucking nobody ever, wants to be in debt. It sucks. When people are made aware of the fact that the world gave them things, things that not everyone else had access to, that information can be interpreted as "you are in debt to the world for the privileges you were granted." Fleeing that debt, throwing away advantages that you had no part in attaining, is a juvenile response, but one that makes a certain amount of sense. Talking about privilege makes people uncomfortable, because some of them will come to the conclusion that the world expects something back for what they were given. That's when you get people yelling about how "NO ONE EVER GAVE ME A LEG UP" "I'M A SELF-MADE MAN" and on, and on. What they're saying is "DON'T PUT ME IN DEBT TO ANYTHING."
I can see that. I think that one of the things that causes that reaction to invoke such a visceral negative response is because, if you lack privilege, it feels like sort of a slap in the face for someone who has it to not do something productive with it. Like my ex, who has inherited (and promptly squandered) over $200,000; almost everyone's response is a disbelieving "What I could have done with $200,000..."
It could have made a huge, huge difference in almost anyone else's quality of life. He essentially threw it away.
People who try to eschew their privileges still have them, and they still benefit from them; no one who is truly poor would strive to live on the edge of subsistence, because they have no safety net. So these crusty types, they still incur that debt, and they also incur an additional debt, that of insulting the have-nots by squandering their privileges.
You're 100% right, trying to live like you don't have those advantages just makes you look like a dick. It was one of those things where I had a feel and needed to unpack it to see what was going on in there. There are responsible ways to "pay back" some of that debt, but ultimately it's not something that can be "paid off" until society on a whole stops going "oh, you nice white skinned kids don't need to go to jail for that, have a job instead." I think there are a lot of people out there who are just not capable of being as insanely awesome as Jane Elliot about recognizing privilege and working to end injustice without turning into a whining, cookie-seeking bastard in the process.
Actually, that's probably where the cookie-seeking stuff comes in, too. HEY, I DIDN'T CROSS THE STREET TO AVOID YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK, PLEASE TELL ME I NO LONGER HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO RACISM! I WANT TO GET RID OF THIS BAD FEELING.
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-American citizenship, but German born-Yugoslavian citizenship originally. Dodged a bullet there! Probably literally!
-White male
-Able bodied and mostly sound, capable, adaptable mind.
(Excepting eyesight - general poor vision, amblyolpia.)
-Very clear, soft skin, with zero effort.
-My face has angles where people commonly appreciate angles.
-Generally, my appearance is that of an doe-eyed, harmless All-American Winner/Good Ol Boy. At first, anyway.
-Very skinny with a metabolism dialed permanently at 11.
-Had one parent who, despite all else, loved and cared about me when I needed it, most of the time.
-Solid immune system which improves mightily with regular, intense exercise.
-I have a knack for language, a certain control over words that sometimes gives me an edge or a means of motivating, coaxing, or flat out manipulating people into certain actions or frames of mind. This is more of an IRL skill than an online one. Something about glands and the meaty-ness of the ear/brain.
-Educated twice in Germany
(4th Grade and 9th Grade)
-Grew up in a city that weathers financial crisis well, and has a higher than average wage rate than the continental US. Even now, as this buffer fades thousands come here for work. Had my mother been working in a Burger King in, say, Southern California or who knows where else... Or a place with a much higher rate of black people than Alaska...
I know many otherwise all right people who have simply not seen a lot of black people, and they're uncomfortable when they do. From talking with them it would seem they lack the capacity to allow this truth, that black people exist and are not necessarily like they are on the TEEVEE. It's different from racism I've witnessed in Arkansas, where it's just so assumed that black people are shit. Here it's the fear that's based in isolation and ignorance.
-Every year for no good reason my local government gives me something close to $1000. They also give it to any children I care to have. I pay no local taxes. The oil industry has enabled a certain minimum quality of life throughout my state, also it provided much of the infrastructure that allows me easy access to some of the most beautiful and isolated spots in the world.
White, middle class, born with mechanical aptitude and a talent for bullshitting. Parents still together, reasonably happy childhood. CIS/straight. Both kids born with all their parts, and in the right place. "One of the boys", in the eyes of management (even if its the one boy that nobody likes to talk about too much). Decent education. Some talent writing.
A few people have touched on this - but I'm struck by the rarity of the combination of my being able to read (and freely taught as a matter of participating in my given society), and having the capacity and leisure time to casually use the internet.
Unearned benefits:
-White
-Male, cisgendered, functionally heterosexual
-American born, with jus sanguinis dual citizenship with European country
-Both nations have English as their primary language, therefore, I do too.
-Irish ethnicity in Boston
-Born working class rather than in poverty
-Above average intelligence
-light colored, apparently striking eyes.
-naturally straight teeth (to the point where new dentists comment on them) that are all still there despite abuse and neglect.
-Fairly large family earlier in life that I could fall back on for support when needed.
-Born and raised in an average sized American city known for its universities and top-notch medical facilities.
Disadvantages:
-mental illness and substance abuse are commonplace in my family. Both of my biological parents have basically lost the plot at this point.
-Premature baldness
-genetic risks for cancer and heart disease may cause financial hardships or death in late middle age or early elderhood
-Prone to depression
white, no physical disabilities, cis, can pass as straight, literate, not butt ugly by western beauty standards, natural aptitude towards being inquisitive and learning new things, marked out as gifted at a young age at school. Dual citizenship with Ireland if I want it. Some savings of more than £1000 (not a lot but it makes a hell of a difference in a bad situation). Good eyesight.
disadvantages- raised in poverty, mental health issues relating to a highly stigmatised MH condition (psychosis), raised in an abusive environment, family too poor for education past 18 (but the internet has helped with the curiosity above mentioned) family history of psychotic illness, still poor despite the Emergency Fund. Possibly poorly socialised due to having to act as my mothers child care provider from 14. Dyslexia. large to the point of only being able to afford 4 bras in the boob department. Overweight (but not obese). Will probably never own property in the house sense in my lifetime. Out of work due to illness.
I notice also no-one has listed their employment status....
Quote from: Pixie on October 10, 2013, 12:41:56 AM
I notice also no-one has listed their employment status....
:?
I did, Faust did, Hoopla did, RWHN and Pæs both mentioned their salary which is along the same lines, Waffles made note of being able to live comfortably without having a job, and Roger mentioned being considered "one of the boys" by management.
I think Nigel made some good points a page or so back about whether having a job is a privilege in and of itself, as opposed to some of our innate privileges making it easier for us to secure those jobs.
Ok. my bad. Full of flu fail.
Quote from: Pixie on October 10, 2013, 12:55:23 AM
Ok. my bad. Full of flu fail.
Ugh, me too. WHOO SEXY HONEYMOON, SPENT IT ALL IN BED SO FAR. Except not quite the way I was envisaging.
Yea it's the result of going to a party in october with uni students. YAY FRESHERS FLU! i got the sick, but not the education damnit. :argh!:
I am self employed in a specialzed, resession resistent field with the potential for very high income in 20-+ hours of work a week.
There are a host of things that have allowed me to do this. There are, however, some inmate disadvantages due to my being male, in this particular field in my particular cultural setting. Which is kinda funny when you think about it.
Employment is not something I would have thought to have listed for myself unless I was unemployed, because I'm employed based on something I did, but if I were unemployed that may well be due to something beyond my control.
That said however, I am underemployed and underpaid for reasons beyond my control, since that makes sense now.
Ok, now I gotta go back to letting the mindfog do its thing.
Blight,
Read only mode
http://www.today.com/moms/giving-your-seat-pregnant-woman-really-sexist-8C11430341
Now, this is just damn stupid. Of course giving your seat to a 7 months-pregnant woman isn't "sexist", any more than giving your seat to a person on crutches is being prejudiced about the handicapped.
7 months pregnant is essentially a "disability", albeit a temporary one and one for which the female body is designed...It's still - in my experience around pregnant women - really exhausting and uncomfortable.
People jumping the rails, FFS.
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Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 06:57:19 PM
Just what I'd expect a privileged cishet white devil man to say. "Oh yes massa, thank you for your generous chair offering. Now I shall reward you with sex." A Proud Woman of Childbearing Capacity don't need your patronizing bullshit. Shitlord.
Fuck, I've been spending way too much time on the wrong parts of the internet.
Apparently so. :lulz:
I get a boot out of that attitude, by the way. Being protective or solicitous to pregnant women is a species survival thing that's hard-wired into the primate brain. The back of the brain is saying "protect the pregnant woman", not "If I'm polite here, I'll get some nookie".
Hell, it's the reason altruism is a survival trait.
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Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
I blame TumblrInAction (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/). I've been obsessed with the lengths thisisnotjapan (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1ousu3/thisisnotjapan_continuing_to_avoid_answering_any/) will go to in order to deny Japan's imperialist past, but the rest of the idiocy there must be bleeding over.
WAT :lulz:
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Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
I blame TumblrInAction (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/). I've been obsessed with the lengths thisisnotjapan (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1ousu3/thisisnotjapan_continuing_to_avoid_answering_any/) will go to in order to deny Japan's imperialist past, but the rest of the idiocy there must be bleeding over.
WAT :lulz:
Apparently, everything wrong in Japan is the result of colonialism. Because, you know, Japan's ignoble history of being conquered and exploited by Western powers is a sad, but well known story.
The best part is they seem to be some kind of crazed weaboo, in denial that they themselves are not Japanese.
Bataan Death March: A result of colonialism.
Rape of Nanjing: See above.
Source: Weaboos with body-size fuck pillows of Sailor Moon.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 06:47:48 PM
http://www.today.com/moms/giving-your-seat-pregnant-woman-really-sexist-8C11430341
Now, this is just damn stupid. Of course giving your seat to a 7 months-pregnant woman isn't "sexist", any more than giving your seat to a person on crutches is being prejudiced about the handicapped.
7 months pregnant is essentially a "disability", albeit a temporary one and one for which the female body is designed...It's still - in my experience around pregnant women - really exhausting and uncomfortable.
People jumping the rails, FFS.
That's painfully absurd... it's "sexist" in the same way that offering a seat to an old man is "ageist" and offering a seat to a disabled person is "ableist". It's an example of equality being used as an excuse for lazy fucks to behave like selfish, childish assholes.
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
I blame TumblrInAction (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/). I've been obsessed with the lengths thisisnotjapan (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1ousu3/thisisnotjapan_continuing_to_avoid_answering_any/) will go to in order to deny Japan's imperialist past, but the rest of the idiocy there must be bleeding over.
WAT :lulz:
Apparently, everything wrong in Japan is the result of colonialism. Because, you know, Japan's ignoble history of being conquered and exploited by Western powers is a sad, but well known story.
The best part is they seem to be some kind of crazed weaboo, in denial that they themselves are not Japanese.
Ummmmmm... :lol:
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 21, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 06:47:48 PM
http://www.today.com/moms/giving-your-seat-pregnant-woman-really-sexist-8C11430341
Now, this is just damn stupid. Of course giving your seat to a 7 months-pregnant woman isn't "sexist", any more than giving your seat to a person on crutches is being prejudiced about the handicapped.
7 months pregnant is essentially a "disability", albeit a temporary one and one for which the female body is designed...It's still - in my experience around pregnant women - really exhausting and uncomfortable.
People jumping the rails, FFS.
That's painfully absurd... it's "sexist" in the same way that offering a seat to an old man is "ageist" and offering a seat to a disabled person is "ableist". It's an example of equality being used as an excuse for lazy fucks to behave like selfish, childish assholes.
Or an excuse for people who are determined to bitch about sexism even when there isn't any there.
Either way, "asshole".
The people who saw the behavior were pissed, and the people who sat around while she stood are making the excuse, so you are correct in this case.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
I blame TumblrInAction (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/). I've been obsessed with the lengths thisisnotjapan (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1ousu3/thisisnotjapan_continuing_to_avoid_answering_any/) will go to in order to deny Japan's imperialist past, but the rest of the idiocy there must be bleeding over.
WAT :lulz:
Apparently, everything wrong in Japan is the result of colonialism. Because, you know, Japan's ignoble history of being conquered and exploited by Western powers is a sad, but well known story.
The best part is they seem to be some kind of crazed weaboo, in denial that they themselves are not Japanese.
Bataan Death March: A result of colonialism.
Rape of Nanjing: See above.
Source: Weaboos with body-size fuck pillows of Sailor Moon.
WHITE PEOPLE WEARING KIMONOS AND SPEAKING JAPANESE IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION, BUT JAPANESE PEOPLE WEARING BLUE JEANS AND SPEAKING ENGLISH IS COLONIALISM. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE USA COLONIZED JAPAN.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 21, 2013, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 21, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 21, 2013, 07:05:50 PM
I blame TumblrInAction (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/). I've been obsessed with the lengths thisisnotjapan (http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/1ousu3/thisisnotjapan_continuing_to_avoid_answering_any/) will go to in order to deny Japan's imperialist past, but the rest of the idiocy there must be bleeding over.
WAT :lulz:
Apparently, everything wrong in Japan is the result of colonialism. Because, you know, Japan's ignoble history of being conquered and exploited by Western powers is a sad, but well known story.
The best part is they seem to be some kind of crazed weaboo, in denial that they themselves are not Japanese.
Bataan Death March: A result of colonialism.
Rape of Nanjing: See above.
Source: Weaboos with body-size fuck pillows of Sailor Moon.
WHITE PEOPLE WEARING KIMONOS AND SPEAKING JAPANESE IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION, BUT JAPANESE PEOPLE WEARING BLUE JEANS AND SPEAKING ENGLISH IS COLONIALISM. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE USA COLONIZED JAPAN.
That's the funny part. The people bitching are hilarious...They get off watching cartoons, and they think this somehow puts them in touch with Japanese culture. Reminds me of those wretched hippies who dig up Native American bits out here to "get in touch with their (non-existant) heritage".
Seriously, how insulting is THAT? "I have studied cartoons, so I understand your culture". At BEST, they understand Otakus, who are alienated from their culture...Meaning they (the weeaboos) MISSED.
Japanese people line-dancing, though...They pretty much hit the nail on the head.
America: 2820 miles long, 2239 miles wide, 1/4" deep.
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