(http://i.imgur.com/m7q2OQ0.jpg)
http://web.psych.utoronto.ca/psy342/Happiness_Disorder.pdf
Quote from: http://web.psych.utoronto.ca/psy342/Happiness_Disorder.pdf
Both Radden and Edwards imply that irrationality may be demonstrated by the detection of
cognitive deficits and distortions of one sort or another. There is excellent experimental evidence
that happy people are irrational in this sense. It has been shown that happy people, in comparison
with people who are miserable or depressed, are impaired when retrieving negative events from
long-term memory [29]. Happy people have also been shown to exhibit various biases of judgement
that prevent them from acquiring a realistic understanding of their physical and social environment.
Thus, there is consistent evidence that happy people overestimate their control over environmental
events (often to the point of perceiving completely random events as subject to their will), give
unrealistically positive evaluations of their own achievements, believe that others share their
unrealistic opinions about themselves and show a general lack of even-handedness when comparing
themselves to others [30]. Although the lack of these biases in depressed people has led many
psychiatric researchers to focus their attention on what has come to be known as depressive realism
it is the unrealism of happy people that is more noteworthy and surely clear evidence that such
people should be regarded as psychiatrically disordered.
:lulz:
I think there's a difference between "happiness", which should be the ideal, and pronoia.
This guy seems to resent the fact that there are humans who have a good self-image.
:lulz:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 03:36:49 AM
I think there's a difference between "happiness", which should be the ideal, and pronoia.
This guy seems to resent the fact that there are humans who have a good self-image.
:lulz:
I dabble in pronoia at times.
I actually said that in my job interview :lulz: Totally had them hooked, "What's pronoia?" etc.
Depression = realism sounds accurate to me, and that definitly implies that happiness = surrealism. There is nothing wrong with surrealism though, it is fun!
There's already a happiness disorder, it's called hyperthymia.
It's an interesting take on normalcy nonetheless.
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
Quotehe argued that hearing voices, hallucinations and other symptoms of "severe" mental illness are just exaggerations of quirks experienced by us all. That won him the British Psychological Book Of The Year award.
Holy fuck. Y'know if I wasn't such a pessimist I'd say it almost looks as if there's a chance that the field of clinical psychology might be on the verge of actually learning something about the human mind :eek:
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
Now there is a man who knows how to rage.
I will show both these texts to my mom, she is a psychologist with pretty much the same views as Richard Bentall. Only less likely to express her anger.
You need a pretty secure foothold/handhold/bum on yer seat in the ivory tower to get away with that sort of shit. And by "get away with" I mean get reputably published. While anyone in academe can say pretty much anything there is always the big issue that just because you say it it doesn't actually follow that anyone else will actually hear you and take your work seriously.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
Thanks for that article...it's pretty fascinating.
I especially liked that he focuses on "a treatment model that relies on supportive relationships rather than pills." I mean, I'm no psychologist but why not, you know? Plus he claims the evidence supports it.
-
:lulz:
Apparently they also share the same symptoms of an orgasm:
Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousness
Quote from: Cain on October 22, 2013, 02:02:15 PM
It's interesting to note the symptoms of happiness are quite similar to the symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning.
Don't let RWHN know about this new thing the kids are using. Before you know it, happiness will be banned.
Quote from: Cain on October 22, 2013, 02:02:15 PM
It's interesting to note the symptoms of happiness are quite similar to the symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning.
Well that comment made
me happy (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/goblinhill/icon_rofl.gif) (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/goblinhill/media/icon_rofl.gif.html)
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Quote from: Cain on October 22, 2013, 02:26:00 PM
You might want to check your furnace is working properly.
You are definitely on a roll today :lol:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on October 22, 2013, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
Quotehe argued that hearing voices, hallucinations and other symptoms of "severe" mental illness are just exaggerations of quirks experienced by us all. That won him the British Psychological Book Of The Year award.
Holy fuck. Y'know if I wasn't such a pessimist I'd say it almost looks as if there's a chance that the field of clinical psychology might be on the verge of actually learning something about the human mind :eek:
Uhhhh pretty much any abnormal behavior/condition is just a normal condition taken to an extreme. How is that groundbreaking?
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 22, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
:lulz:
Apparently they also share the same symptoms of an orgasm:
Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousness
If any of those occurred when I was orgasming I'd see a doctor immediately.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 22, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
:lulz:
Apparently they also share the same symptoms of an orgasm:
Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousness
If any of those occurred when I was orgasming I'd see a doctor immediately.
That's because you're not
serious about having a good time.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 22, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
:lulz:
Apparently they also share the same symptoms of an orgasm:
Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousness
If any of those occurred when I was orgasming I'd see a doctor immediately.
That's because you're not serious about having a good time.
:lulz: Apparently.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. :roll:
"It's not a
take on normalcy, it's a
side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. :roll:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
He is refering to his own link.
Quote from: :regret: on October 22, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. :roll:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
He is refering to his own link.
Ever put your foot in the stink? And then you stand there with a dumb look on your face, because there's poo all over your shoe, and you don't know why?
Quote from: :regret: on October 22, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. :roll:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
He is refering to his own link.
Oh FFS. :roll: No, she is doing the same thing she always does, which is finding something to contradict. Read the thread. Jesus.
Personally, I like to walk into bars and take sides in saloon brawls in which I have no clue of the history of the participants, who started what, or how long the fight has been going on.
Because I want the poop on BOTH shoes. Up to the ankle.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 07:26:47 AM
It's an interesting take on normalcy nonetheless.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Derp.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:33:58 PM
Personally, I like to walk into bars and take sides in saloon brawls in which I have no clue of the history of the participants, who started what, or how long the fight has been going on.
Because I want the poop on BOTH shoes. Up to the ankle.
:lol:
I guess a principled and consistent Buddhist, or a principled and consistent Taoist, indeed, possibly even a principled and consistent Discordian (were there such a thing) would say that this is correct, happiness is madness.
They would then go on to add that unhappiness, of course, is also madness.
They would possibly do this with a massive grin.
The Buddhist would then add that madness must be dispensed with...
The Taoist may wink and say madness may be dispensed with if you feel like it...
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
... and the grin would grow manic ...
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I really hate people who make that 'madness is hilarious!!' line.
Its not.
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 22, 2013, 05:57:08 PM
I really hate people who make that 'madness is hilarious!!' line.
Its not.
That's because "madness" is being equating with "silliness".
There are two kinds of madness: Mental illness, which is no fun at all, and the sort of madness that leads otherwise rational people into things like Dachau, which is even less fun.
Yeah.
Silliness is great! Mental illness is not 'silliness', but the conflation of the two causes a hell of a lot of problems for sufferers.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. :roll:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
I contradicted you because you were
wrong and I said you were
wrong in traditionally neutral academic language. I did not restate your point in different terms I politely said you were
wrong.
I have no idea what you intended to convey by your statement:
"It's not a
take on normalcy, it's a
side-swipe at the madness industry"
You
incorrectly wrongly put it in quotation marks when it is neither anything like what you said nor an accurate representation of what I said.
I suspect you didn't read the actual paper or, as so often is the case, you are just trolling to be a cunt and because you don't like me. Which is sad, but I guess I'll survive.
BTW I'm glad the paper I linked to was appreciated by Burns.
I am not an idiot, I am an industry professional [retired/recovering]. And you are a second year community college student who talks incessantly about her PhD plans. I hope you get one, I really really do, I'm all in favour of education - but, bright as you are you don't have one yet.
Just saying.
Now, it is my partner's birthday which is going to involve a delicious curry, and I am much more interested in feeding her than in feeding some internet troll with a bad attitude
Goodnight everyone
Whoa. Shit just got real.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. :roll:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
I contradicted you because you were wrong and I said you were wrong in traditionally neutral academic language. I did not restate your point in different terms I politely said you were wrong.
I have no idea what you intended to convey by your statement:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You incorrectly wrongly put it in quotation marks when it is neither anything like what you said nor an accurate representation of what I said.
I suspect you didn't read the actual paper or, as so often is the case, you are just trolling to be a cunt and because you don't like me. Which is sad, but I guess I'll survive.
BTW I'm glad the paper I linked to was appreciated by Burns.
I am not an idiot, I am an industry professional [retired/recovering]. And you are a second year community college student who talks incessantly about her PhD plans. I hope you get one, I really really do, I'm all in favour of education - but, bright as you are you don't have one yet.
Just saying.
Now, it is my partner's birthday which is going to involve a delicious curry, and I am much more interested in feeding her than in feeding some internet troll with a bad attitude
Goodnight everyone
It's not night time. It's 10 AM. Just saying.
I think MMIX is the same brit ass who decided to write off anything I had to say in an awesomely condescending fashion due to my age, a few years back. Same appeal to seniority crap that's being pulled here.
In which case it is 6pm, and they're still a douchebag. Good to know.
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 22, 2013, 06:14:31 PM
I think MMIX is the same brit ass who decided to write off anything I had to say in an awesomely condescending fashion due to my age, a few years back. Same appeal to seniority crap that's being pulled here.
In which case it is 6pm, and they're still a douchebag. Good to know.
She's been writing me off since the MysticWicks era.
I judge myself on the sort of people who give me the royal sniff. :lulz:
I'm just glad she's keeping up the fine tradition of asserting her age and real life status to belittle those who disagree with her rather than providing a substantive rebuttal to whatever points they are making.
For a 'mental health professional' who has been a part of this community for so long, it is amazing how she has failed to learn how the people here are likely to react.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html (http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html)
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. ::)
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
I contradicted you because you were wrong and I said you were wrong in traditionally neutral academic language. I did not restate your point in different terms I politely said you were wrong.
I have no idea what you intended to convey by your statement:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You incorrectly wrongly put it in quotation marks when it is neither anything like what you said nor an accurate representation of what I said.
I suspect you didn't read the actual paper or, as so often is the case, you are just trolling to be a cunt and because you don't like me. Which is sad, but I guess I'll survive.
BTW I'm glad the paper I linked to was appreciated by Burns.
I am not an idiot, I am an industry professional [retired/recovering]. And you are a second year community college student who talks incessantly about her PhD plans. I hope you get one, I really really do, I'm all in favour of education - but, bright as you are you don't have one yet.
Just saying.
Now, it is my partner's birthday which is going to involve a delicious curry, and I am much more interested in feeding her than in feeding some internet troll with a bad attitude
Goodnight everyone
Oh shit....well, you've seen how this will end up.
Marginally relevant to the OP: A literary critique of DSM-5 by American Psychiatric Association. http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/book-of-lamentations/
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 06:07:14 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Bentall is a really interesting dissenting voice when it comes to psychiatry etc.
http://edhalliwell.com/richard-bentall-interview.html
And the OP had me laughing my socks off
I love it when people contradict what I said, only to restate it in different terms. :roll:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You're an idiot, fuck off.
I contradicted you because you were wrong and I said you were wrong in traditionally neutral academic language. I did not restate your point in different terms I politely said you were wrong.
I have no idea what you intended to convey by your statement:
"It's not a take on normalcy, it's a side-swipe at the madness industry"
You incorrectly wrongly put it in quotation marks when it is neither anything like what you said nor an accurate representation of what I said.
I suspect you didn't read the actual paper or, as so often is the case, you are just trolling to be a cunt and because you don't like me. Which is sad, but I guess I'll survive.
BTW I'm glad the paper I linked to was appreciated by Burns.
I am not an idiot, I am an industry professional [retired/recovering]. And you are a second year community college student who talks incessantly about her PhD plans. I hope you get one, I really really do, I'm all in favour of education - but, bright as you are you don't have one yet.
Just saying.
Now, it is my partner's birthday which is going to involve a delicious curry, and I am much more interested in feeding her than in feeding some internet troll with a bad attitude
Goodnight everyone
You making anyone "wrong" is a joke, but I guess everyone has to have something to aspire to.
What do you think "a take on normalcy" is? Considering that normalcy, in terms of mental health, is defined by the psychological community? :lol:
You are still a fucking idiot. And apparently a drunk one. Fuck off.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 07:26:47 AM
It's an interesting take on normalcy nonetheless.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Derp.
Well, i read his post completely wrong.
Also, as you said, Derp.
I'm going home to wash my shoes while feeling like an idiot.
Quote from: What's New Wildebeest? on October 22, 2013, 06:25:40 PM
Oh shit....well, you've seen how this will end up.
At this point, I am taking bets on how long it will take for RWHN to side with Brother Nihil. :lulz:
Quote from: :regret: on October 22, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 07:26:47 AM
It's an interesting take on normalcy nonetheless.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Derp.
Well, i read his post completely wrong.
Also, as you said, Derp.
I'm going home to wash my shoes while feeling like an idiot.
At least you're a biped who can admit to being mistaken. I gotta respect that.
Quote from: :regret: on October 22, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 07:26:47 AM
It's an interesting take on normalcy nonetheless.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Derp.
Well, i read his post completely wrong.
Also, as you said, Derp.
I'm going home to wash my shoes while feeling like an idiot.
Poop on your shoes is not a calamity, it is an opportunity. While said poop is fresh, go to another forum and scuff your beshatted feet on the carpet.
Real life fuck ups make AWESOME trolls.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 06:59:07 PM
Quote from: :regret: on October 22, 2013, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 07:26:47 AM
It's an interesting take on normalcy nonetheless.
Quote from: MMIX on October 22, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
Not so much a take on normality as a side-swipe at the Madness Industry.
Derp.
Well, i read his post completely wrong.
Also, as you said, Derp.
I'm going home to wash my shoes while feeling like an idiot.
Poop on your shoes is not a calamity, it is an opportunity. While said poop is fresh, go to another forum and scuff your beshatted feet on the carpet.
Real life fuck ups make AWESOME trolls.
This is also true. :lol:
Do you find yourself smiling?
Humming catchy tunes?
A little too much bounce in your step?
You may suffer from Happiness.
Ask your doctor if new depressinex tablets are right for you.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 22, 2013, 06:09:41 PM
Whoa. Shit just got real.
No... her incoherent screed is just full of random posturing that's totally irrelevant. I have no idea what my level of education, future plans, or her "industry professional" status has to do with my comment or her alleged authority to declare it "wrong".
Quote from: rong on October 22, 2013, 07:01:38 PM
Do you find yourself smiling?
Humming catchy tunes?
A little too much bounce in your step?
You may suffer from Happiness.
Ask your doctor if new depressinex tablets are right for you.
Rong, sometimes it's hard to hate you. :lulz: Bad monkey.
Quote from: rong on October 22, 2013, 07:01:38 PM
Do you find yourself smiling?
Humming catchy tunes?
A little too much bounce in your step?
You may suffer from Happiness.
Ask your doctor if new depressinex tablets are right for you.
:lol:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: rong on October 22, 2013, 07:01:38 PM
Do you find yourself smiling?
Humming catchy tunes?
A little too much bounce in your step?
You may suffer from Happiness.
Ask your doctor if new depressinex tablets are right for you.
Rong, sometimes it's hard to hate you. :lulz: Bad monkey.
:thanks:
Quote from: Kai on October 22, 2013, 06:27:48 PM
Marginally relevant to the OP: A literary critique of DSM-5 by American Psychiatric Association. http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/book-of-lamentations/
Thanks, Kai! That's relevant to my interests :)
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I guess I do. Yes.
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I guess I do. Yes.
But I certainly don't mean madness in the sense of mental illness (I agree that's no laughing matter at all). I mean it in the sense that a Buddhist may call happiness madness with a big grin on his face.
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I guess I do. Yes.
But I certainly don't mean madness in the sense of mental illness (I agree that's no laughing matter at all). I mean it in the sense that a Buddhist may call happiness madness with a big grin on his face.
So once a fucking gain it is you ascribing random meanings to words and expecting everyone else to intuit what you mean.
Well, there's no doubt that's an Authentic Holist post alright.
Thread is now on life support.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 22, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
:lulz:
Apparently they also share the same symptoms of an orgasm:
Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousness
If any of those occurred when I was orgasming I'd see a doctor immediately.
Seriously? None of those? You got shipped a faulty orgasm unit.
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 22, 2013, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I guess I do. Yes.
But I certainly don't mean madness in the sense of mental illness (I agree that's no laughing matter at all). I mean it in the sense that a Buddhist may call happiness madness with a big grin on his face.
So once a fucking gain it is you ascribing random meanings to words and expecting everyone else to intuit what you mean.
Well, there's no doubt that's an Authentic Holist post alright.
Well, this is just from a free online dictionary:
1. The quality or condition of being insane. See Synonyms at insanity.
2. Great folly: It was sheer madness to attempt the drive during a blizzard.
3. Fury; rage.
4. Enthusiasm; excitement.
And I did lead with that story...
Thread is now in a state of morbidity.
Family members are being notified.
Quote from: Kai on October 22, 2013, 06:27:48 PM
Marginally relevant to the OP: A literary critique of DSM-5 by American Psychiatric Association. http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/book-of-lamentations/
Jesus Christ :eek:
This made me actually want to
read the DSM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 22, 2013, 08:35:48 PM
Quote from: Kai on October 22, 2013, 06:27:48 PM
Marginally relevant to the OP: A literary critique of DSM-5 by American Psychiatric Association. http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/book-of-lamentations/
Thanks, Kai! That's relevant to my interests :)
Also thanks! Great find.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I thought the whole post was lame.
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 22, 2013, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I guess I do. Yes.
But I certainly don't mean madness in the sense of mental illness (I agree that's no laughing matter at all). I mean it in the sense that a Buddhist may call happiness madness with a big grin on his face.
So once a fucking gain it is you ascribing random meanings to words and expecting everyone else to intuit what you mean.
Well, there's no doubt that's an Authentic Holist post alright.
Well, this is just from a free online dictionary:
1. The quality or condition of being insane. See Synonyms at insanity.
2. Great folly: It was sheer madness to attempt the drive during a blizzard.
3. Fury; rage.
4. Enthusiasm; excitement.
And I did lead with that story...
A cool thing about English is that words can have more than one meaning, and that humans are capable of teasing out which of the many possible meanings is intended based on context.
In this particular case, the Subject line of the op ("opening post", though in other contexts it can mean "operation" or "overpowered") was "A Proposal to Classify Happiness as a Psychiatric Disorder by Richard P. Benta". The key words are "Psychiatric Disorder," which signal to the humans involved in the discussion that should favor medical and psychiatric meanings of words. "Needle" would be probably be taken to mean a syringe, not the pointer on an analog radio. "Madness" is interpreted the same way, as a serious psychiatric condition, and would not be understood as folly or rage or enthusiasm unless a participant extensively reframed the discussion to allow that to happen - in which case it would be easier to start a new discussion with a new Subject line.
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 22, 2013, 06:22:15 PM
I'm just glad she's keeping up the fine tradition of asserting her age and real life status to belittle those who disagree with her rather than providing a substantive rebuttal to whatever points they are making.
For a 'mental health professional' who has been a part of this community for so long, it is amazing how she has failed to learn how the people here are likely to react.
This.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on October 22, 2013, 11:50:26 PM
A cool thing about English is that words can have more than one meaning, and that humans are capable of teasing out which of the many possible meanings is intended based on context.
In this particular case, the Subject line of the op ("opening post", though in other contexts it can mean "operation" or "overpowered") was "A Proposal to Classify Happiness as a Psychiatric Disorder by Richard P. Benta". The key words are "Psychiatric Disorder," which signal to the humans involved in the discussion that should favor medical and psychiatric meanings of words. "Needle" would be probably be taken to mean a syringe, not the pointer on an analog radio. "Madness" is interpreted the same way, as a serious psychiatric condition, and would not be understood as folly or rage or enthusiasm unless a participant extensively reframed the discussion to allow that to happen - in which case it would be easier to start a new discussion with a new Subject line.
Yes.
Words do not have inherent meanings, and do not carry all of their meanings at once (even tho the dictionary lists them like that). It's all about the context.
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 22, 2013, 10:28:55 PM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 22, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 22, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
:lulz:
Apparently they also share the same symptoms of an orgasm:
Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousness
If any of those occurred when I was orgasming I'd see a doctor immediately.
Seriously? None of those? You got shipped a faulty orgasm unit.
No.
Weakness? Um, usually my whole body is in a state of profound muscular tension at the moment of orgasm, so no.
Dizziness? Not as I am familiar with dizziness, which is a sickening spinning light-headedness.
Maybe you're confusing increased breath rate with shortness of breath? One is what it feels like when you're in a heightened state of arousal, and the other is what it feels like when you have asthma.
Confusion? No, I'm pretty clear on what's happening when I'm having an orgasm; I don't find anything "confusing" per se.
Blurred vision WTF no. That should not happen.
Pretty sure my orgasms work just fine. I just wouldn't use the language of pathology to describe the sensations I experience during them. :lol:
I trust there IS opera singing involved. Because it's just not sex without opera singing.
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on October 22, 2013, 11:50:26 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 22, 2013, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:18:35 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 22, 2013, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: holist on October 22, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
The Discordian may agree with the Taoist but add, as an aside, that madness is just too much fun to dispense with...
Would he/she? Do you really think so? Seriously?
I guess I do. Yes.
But I certainly don't mean madness in the sense of mental illness (I agree that's no laughing matter at all). I mean it in the sense that a Buddhist may call happiness madness with a big grin on his face.
So once a fucking gain it is you ascribing random meanings to words and expecting everyone else to intuit what you mean.
Well, there's no doubt that's an Authentic Holist post alright.
Well, this is just from a free online dictionary:
1. The quality or condition of being insane. See Synonyms at insanity.
2. Great folly: It was sheer madness to attempt the drive during a blizzard.
3. Fury; rage.
4. Enthusiasm; excitement.
And I did lead with that story...
A cool thing about English is that words can have more than one meaning, and that humans are capable of teasing out which of the many possible meanings is intended based on context.
In this particular case, the Subject line of the op ("opening post", though in other contexts it can mean "operation" or "overpowered") was "A Proposal to Classify Happiness as a Psychiatric Disorder by Richard P. Benta". The key words are "Psychiatric Disorder," which signal to the humans involved in the discussion that should favor medical and psychiatric meanings of words. "Needle" would be probably be taken to mean a syringe, not the pointer on an analog radio. "Madness" is interpreted the same way, as a serious psychiatric condition, and would not be understood as folly or rage or enthusiasm unless a participant extensively reframed the discussion to allow that to happen - in which case it would be easier to start a new discussion with a new Subject line.
And here I was, thinking you were talking about the Second-Wave Ska band.
"ONE STEP BEYOND!"
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 23, 2013, 03:42:06 AM
I trust there IS opera singing involved. Because it's just not sex without opera singing.
No, I get 15 dwarves playing trumpet and a dancing elephant seal. Don't you? If you don't, you are most certainly missing out and/or your sex parts are defective.
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 23, 2013, 04:22:26 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 23, 2013, 03:42:06 AM
I trust there IS opera singing involved. Because it's just not sex without opera singing.
No, I get 15 dwarves playing trumpet and a dancing elephant seal. Don't you? If you don't, you are most certainly missing out and/or your sex parts are defective.
There is actually a city ordinance forbidding I perform certain acts on account of something involving the ley lines being crossed and tentacles not being cool when they are crawling out holes to nothing. But on the bright side my neighbors stopped bugging me.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 22, 2013, 02:06:03 PM
:lulz:
Apparently they also share the same symptoms of an orgasm:
Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousness
Oddly enough, these are also symptoms of VX nerve agent.
LAWL
Don't tell my wife!
I read Bentall's interview, and what he spoke of still seems to be happenning today.
Sometimes I feel pity for the good psychiatrists that actually sit down for an hour to listen to their patients, trying to be emphatetic and understand their problems beyond the alleged purely "chemical disfunction"... the problem with it is that they dont have the training to do it properly, so they end up burning out reaaaally fast and hard and develop some nasty issues themselves.
They're in a really difficult situation, to be able to exersice as and have the title of psychiatrist, youre an ultra specialist, that commited in time, money and energy to practice in a certain manner, so it isnt shocking they want to treat everything from the perspective theyre invested in, in detriment to what is needed in each case.
On any regular day id take a bachelor level psychologist over a specialized psychiatrist - but a psychiatrist that has actually delved into and trained in some kind of psychotherapy is truly a grandiose character.