Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:34:48 PM

Title: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:34:48 PM
At some point, over the last two years or so, PD has gone from "discussion" to "we're under the blanket, talking about Those People"...With "Those People" being defined as "those inferiors who aren't as good/smart/progressive as us.

And when someone says "You're wrong", or - God forbid - makes a satire out of the whole thing, the FIRST impulse is to get all fucking BUTTHURT and either pelt the offender with feces, or storm off in a righteous, towering snit.  Or, and this is my favorite reaction, start pretending the offender(s) doesn't exist.  You couldn't ignore RWHN or Poptard to save your fucking ass, but the people who agree with you on all but ONE POINT?  Then you're a paragon of will power.

And that's just a little TYPICAL of Fart Huffing Syndrome (FHS), isn't it?  Save the MOST hate for the people who ALMOST COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.  This is most obvious in religions.  The republican party, for example.

Another thing which I find amusing is that IGNORANCE is treated more harshly than OPPOSITION.  As an example, I give you the response to the self-defense argument, back in the rape threads..."You're part of the problem".  Remember that?  I believe that was Luna, but I recall several other people saying that.

As if anyone here was PART OF THE PROBLEM with that subject.  How laughable.  How fucking ridiculous.  And the BEST part, is that the smugly righteous people who DO these things are basically taking their convert pool and dumping it out, so that they can look MORE COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE IN THE EYES OF THEIR FELLOW FHS SUFFERERS.  Because the person whose head got bitten off for ignorance, who got told they are "part of the problem" have more than likely stopped caring about the problem ENTIRELY.

Potential convert:  "Hi, I'd like to help."

Ass Basket:  "FUCK YOU, YOU'RE WORSE THAN THE ACTUAL RAPIST, YOU GODDAMN COOKIE-SEEKER!"

Potential convert:  "Ooookay..." *backs away slowly, now believes everything he hears about "feminazis", because THAT is the experience that will stick in his mind.

And all that, just to vent your outrage in front of your peers.  Well done, you stupid fucking primate.

And that example can be used to cover each and every Cause that has been advanced at PD in the last 36 months or so.  The example above was chosen because of the particularly egregious examples that were provided during that screech-fest.  (Garbo comes to mind, here, with her bigoted spewing and mockery of anyone less committed, aini-like, to "the culture").

And you can tell when this issue is becoming terminal, because even satire is taken with a straight face, long after the satire part has been spelled out.  Because we'd hate to miss a chance to show the others how committed we are, right?

This isn't Discordia.  Sure, it's chaos, but it isn't Discordia.  It's just every other group of grunting, screeching, hopping-up-and-down fanatics in the history of monkeydom.

Congratulations.

Assholes.

Or Kill Me.


(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.) 
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:37:11 PM
By the way, if you're offended by the above, then odds are 99% that you are who I am talking about.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
I'd also like to point out that being butthurt during a discussion is one thing - some topics are sensitive - but that deciding "OH, THAT'S IT!" and blowing your eggs/sperm out the wrong orifice in rage for weeks is quite another.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: LMNO on October 31, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
Chaos, but not Discordia.  I like that.


I also like that you, DOUR, have offered a perfectly good lesson as to how this kind of stuff should be playing out, practically and pragmatically.  It's not that you feel anger, and immediately stop yourself, and sit in a corner for five minutes until you've worked something out.  Nobody really does that, especially when a button gets pushed.  It's unrealistic to think that would, or even should, happen.  You got down into the mud, got dirty, and then noticed something was amiss.  Then you stepped off, said, "hold on..."

And when you resolved it in your head, you made all necessary apologies, pulled your pants back up, and let the drama go.  You didn't sit around and say, "YOU upset me, and you were right, and I just won't forgive that.

In short, you don't have to be a saint, you don't have to be a stone cold rationalist.  But you do have to get up off all fours and call yourself out from time to time, and move on.

ETA: looks like you just said the same thing, up there.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 31, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
Chaos, but not Discordia.  I like that.


I also like that you, DOUR, have offered a perfectly good lesson as to how this kind of stuff should be playing out, practically and pragmatically.  It's not that you feel anger, and immediately stop yourself, and sit in a corner for five minutes until you've worked something out.  Nobody really does that, especially when a button gets pushed.  It's unrealistic to think that would, or even should, happen.  You got down into the mud, got dirty, and then noticed something was amiss.  Then you stepped off, said, "hold on..."

And when you resolved it in your head, you made all necessary apologies, pulled your pants back up, and let the drama go.  You didn't sit around and say, "YOU upset me, and you were right, and I just won't forgive that.

In short, you don't have to be a saint, you don't have to be a stone cold rationalist.  But you do have to get up off all fours and call yourself out from time to time, and move on.

ETA: looks like you just said the same thing, up there.

Learned that the hard fucking way, back in the bad old days.

I can't believe I spent 2 years sulking, and missing a bunch of the really GOOD shit that was going on.

And it PAINS me that we have to reinvent the fucking wheel every few years.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Faust on October 31, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:34:48 PM

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)


WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 31, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:34:48 PM

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)


WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.

A couple of years back, it was a mosh pit, with people hollering and carrying on and getting excited or even pissed.  It was FUN.  Now it's an emo concert, with everyone sitting along the wall and saying how offensive the other side is.

And I have to disagree with the FB thing.  TDS is a bunch of pedos, and TDS2013 is word salad.

They're worse, just in a different way.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Faust on October 31, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 31, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:34:48 PM

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)


WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.

A couple of years back, it was a mosh pit, with people hollering and carrying on and getting excited or even pissed.  It was FUN.  Now it's an emo concert, with everyone sitting along the wall and saying how offensive the other side is.

And I have to disagree with the FB thing.  TDS is a bunch of pedos, and TDS2013 is word salad.

They're worse, just in a different way.

Pedo's, I haven't seen them post anything like that but I've only been watching them for the last few months. There's a few over there that I find funny. That Matt Kilb guy seems makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 31, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 31, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:34:48 PM

(PS:  I'd like to point out that in the most recent wankfest, 3 people DID holler "LOL HAIL ERIS", which means that PD isn't completely hopeless yet.)


WOOO, NOT COMPLETELY HOPELESS.

I'm not going to judge on the fights because I stepped out of them a year or two ago and it's worked really well for me.
But on a whole PD does seem less fun/funny then it did. A good barometer is the facebook Discordinas. They are currently more funny then us, and that's just terrible.

A couple of years back, it was a mosh pit, with people hollering and carrying on and getting excited or even pissed.  It was FUN.  Now it's an emo concert, with everyone sitting along the wall and saying how offensive the other side is.

And I have to disagree with the FB thing.  TDS is a bunch of pedos, and TDS2013 is word salad.

They're worse, just in a different way.

Pedo's, I haven't seen them post anything like that but I've only been watching them for the last few months. There's a few over there that I find funny. That Matt Kilb guy seems makes me laugh.

Matt Kilb is mentally ill.  He's funny until he latches onto you.

Jonathan Bost and his pals are who I was talking about.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Faust on October 31, 2013, 04:18:29 PM
I just put him into the search bard and now I have to clear my cache....
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: Faust on October 31, 2013, 04:18:29 PM
I just put him into the search bard and now I have to clear my cache....

Vicious little piggie, isn't he?
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: hooplala on October 31, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 31, 2013, 03:48:21 PMyou do have to get up off all fours

This is what Discordianism is, basically, to me.  And I agree with what LMNO said, of all the people I've known on PD over the years, Roger seems to have grown the most as a human being.  We didn't get along at first, largely because of some bad intel and my not understanding the satire, but eventually it opened up and I saw an example of how I too could become a better person.  Granted, in that atheism thread I did puff my chest up and throw some shit at first, but after the initial rage passed, introspection crept in. 

If we can't examine our faults, what are we?
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 31, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
If we can't examine our faults, what are we?

DING. 

To me, that is the secondary goal of Discordianism, which is an offshoot of the primary goal:  To see the world the way it REALLY is, not the way I'd LIKE it to be, or even the way I'm AFRAID it is.

Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: hooplala on October 31, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 31, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
If we can't examine our faults, what are we?

DING. 

To me, that is the secondary goal of Discordianism, which is an offshoot of the primary goal:  To see the world the way it REALLY is, not the way I'd LIKE it to be, or even the way I'm AFRAID it is.

Yes!  Yes you're right, that is the primary goal.

I also agree some of the funny on PD seems to be missing, from even 4 or 5 years ago, but then I could say the same about the world in general.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Da6s on October 31, 2013, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
...blowing your eggs/sperm out the wrong orifice in rage...

This mental image is amazing  :lulz:
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:00:31 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 31, 2013, 04:48:41 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 31, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
If we can't examine our faults, what are we?

DING. 

To me, that is the secondary goal of Discordianism, which is an offshoot of the primary goal:  To see the world the way it REALLY is, not the way I'd LIKE it to be, or even the way I'm AFRAID it is.

Yes!  Yes you're right, that is the primary goal.

I also agree some of the funny on PD seems to be missing, from even 4 or 5 years ago, but then I could say the same about the world in general.

Part of it is that we've gotten stale.  The other part is that we now have the attention spans of brain-damaged cats.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: Da6s on October 31, 2013, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
...blowing your eggs/sperm out the wrong orifice in rage...

This mental image is amazing  :lulz:

I'm not well.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
It's been smelling a lot like "rotting treehouse" in here lately. Some of that may be that I've been in more than a few rotting treehouses in my day and I might be reading too much into things, but the symptoms are pretty obvious. Less stuff is being made. More people are getting butthurt and leaving and fewer of them are coming back. Nothing's as funny as it used to be. And any time you bring it up, people respond with either IT'S NOT MY FAULT I *BLAHBLAHBLAH* LIFE STUFF or FU NO IT'S NOT, LOOK AT THIS THING I JUST DID THAT'S NOT NEARLY AS GOOD AS THE OLD STUFF BUT PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT. I've done both of those things here.

Treehouses rot, it's a thing they do. It's never gonna be 2008 again.

All that said, I like you spags even when you piss me off and I don't want to miss out on whatever happens here. Even if it's not as good as the days I missed, it's still good to be challenged and appreciated.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 31, 2013, 05:34:39 PM
:mittens: to the OP.

So my question is, what do we do with this rotting, blanket-covered treehouse? Do we abandon it for another treehouse? Or do those of us who have not flounced in a steaming heap of butthurt make an effort to alter our approach? Do we stop dogpiling pinealists and  second-rate trolls?

The thing that attracted me to PD in the first place was that it was not a NICE board, but that it was a REAL board. I appreciate that. Is that still what the board is? I don't know... I feel like it might have crossed over too much into a mutual-appreciation society, and when somebody doesn't get enough attention or reinforcement they feel like the board has let them down.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Less stuff is being made.

Not sure about that.  Less stuff is being LOOKED at.

Which has the same effect.

Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 31, 2013, 05:53:01 PM
Id prefer not to abandon the treehouse. I get attached to things and this place has been a big part of my life these last fourish years. I made some really good friends here. By the same token revitalizing is difficult to do and this place certainly isnt as populated as it was in '10.
I think some people moved on others had nothing to say anymore and others just didnt get along with some of us or there was some sort of blow out.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Nigelson on October 31, 2013, 05:34:39 PM
:mittens: to the OP.

So my question is, what do we do with this rotting, blanket-covered treehouse? Do we abandon it for another treehouse? Or do those of us who have not flounced in a steaming heap of butthurt make an effort to alter our approach? Do we stop dogpiling pinealists and  second-rate trolls?

The thing that attracted me to PD in the first place was that it was not a NICE board, but that it was a REAL board. I appreciate that. Is that still what the board is? I don't know... I feel like it might have crossed over too much into a mutual-appreciation society, and when somebody doesn't get enough attention or reinforcement they feel like the board has let them down.

Yep. GUILTY AS CHARGED.

As I said in the other thread, I'm over it.  I'm going to keep writing, for my own sake.  I am no longer falling into the "audience" trap.

And as for the haters, unless their hate meets my standards (none of them presently do), I'm just writing them off.  We already had Khara and Charley, know what I mean?  I don't see the need to bother with someone whose FIRST resort is to screech and hate and stomp off.

It's a self-correcting problem if you don't let it get all over you.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 31, 2013, 05:53:01 PM
Id prefer not to abandon the treehouse. I get attached to things and this place has been a big part of my life these last fourish years. I made some really good friends here. By the same token revitalizing is difficult to do and this place certainly isnt as populated as it was in '10.
I think some people moved on others had nothing to say anymore and others just didnt get along with some of us or there was some sort of blow out.

We have been complacent.

VERY, VERY complacent.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Less stuff is being made.

Not sure about that.  Less stuff is being LOOKED at.

Which has the same effect.

I haven't had a single rant get past about 2 sentences before fizzling out and dying in what feels like forever. It sucks and I hate it.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Less stuff is being made.

Not sure about that.  Less stuff is being LOOKED at.

Which has the same effect.

I haven't had a single rant get past about 2 sentences before fizzling out and dying in what feels like forever. It sucks and I hate it.

Then stop ranting and do something ELSE.

Traditions were invented to be shat on, lit on fire, and thrown over the stairwell.

Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 06:04:21 PM
Point.

I was looking around scribd and found some of the old postergasm stuff. I might riff off the Calvin Ball one.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: LMNO on October 31, 2013, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Less stuff is being made.

Not sure about that.  Less stuff is being LOOKED at.

Which has the same effect.

I haven't had a single rant get past about 2 sentences before fizzling out and dying in what feels like forever. It sucks and I hate it.

Then stop ranting and do something ELSE.

Traditions were invented to be shat on, lit on fire, and thrown over the stairwell.

The problem being that forums are optimized for sharing writing. 
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
When I first joined PD all y'all were still in the post-BIP glow. I approached every single poster here with a sense of inferiority and awe because that collection of writings changed my life. It was exactly what I needed to read at that specific point in my life.

For the most part, I am still humbled by you - collectively and individually. Even posters I don't like, I have some strange kind of respect for.

My own interaction with Discordia and this, the premier Discordian forum on the whole damn interwubs, has been an awkward and clunky affair all the way through. I've never had a blow out with an established member of this community. I've done my fair share of shitting on the woefully and purposely ignorant. I have WOMPed things that no mortal man should ever WOMP. But I've never blown anyone away with something I have done or said. I have never Saved The DayTM. And Curly will never be seen again, no matter how many maps of the Lost Highway I draw.

Anyway. I'm rambling. I guess I just want to say I love you?
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
But I've never blown anyone away with something I have done or said.

Factually incorrect.  Curly on the wrong side of the police line was GENIUS.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Reginald Ret on October 31, 2013, 08:18:32 PM


Quote from: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
When I first joined PD all y'all were still in the post-BIP glow. I approached every single poster here with a sense of inferiority and awe because that collection of writings changed my life. It was exactly what I needed to read at that specific point in my life.

For the most part, I am still humbled by you - collectively and individually. Even posters I don't like, I have some strange kind of respect for.

My own interaction with Discordia and this, the premier Discordian forum on the whole damn interwubs, has been an awkward and clunky affair all the way through. I've never had a blow out with an established member of this community. I've done my fair share of shitting on the woefully and purposely ignorant. I have WOMPed things that no mortal man should ever WOMP. But I've never blown anyone away with something I have done or said. I have never Saved The DayTM. And Curly will never be seen again, no matter how many maps of the Lost Highway I draw.

Anyway. I'm rambling. I guess I just want to say I love you?
Love you too.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
But I've never blown anyone away with something I have done or said.

Factually incorrect.  Curly on the wrong side of the police line was GENIUS.
I do believe i missed that, linky?
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Demolition Squid on October 31, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
I've noticed that periods where I tend to post more tend to coincide with periods where people say the board is in a lull, nobody is posting anything, or the wrong sort of thing is being posted.

Intellectually I realize this is probably a coincidence and this probably (hopefully?) isn't aimed at me. Emotionally? Well.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 31, 2013, 08:36:14 PM
I've noticed that periods where I tend to post more tend to coincide with periods where people say the board is in a lull, nobody is posting anything, or the wrong sort of thing is being posted.

Intellectually I realize this is probably a coincidence and this probably (hopefully?) isn't aimed at me. Emotionally? Well.

Well, there's a simple test to determine this.

QUESTION 1:

Have you recently said "Roger is bad/evil/wrong/friends with Nigel, so I am going to skip past his posts and pretend he isn't here"?

If the answer is "yes", then you can eat shit and die.

If the answer is "no", then I wasn't talking about you.

QUESTION 2: 

Have you decided that Nigel or Roger or ECH or Kai or anyone else is "part of the problem" or "the cancer that is killing PD" or "FUCK YOU I'M SOOOOOOO MAD THAT *insert name* DOESN'T QUALIFY AS HUMAN"

If yes, then find a fucking hole and crawl in it.

If no, then I wasn't talking about you.

QUESTION 3:

When dealing with people, do you assume that they are blind and somewhat stupid?

If yes, then choke on a fresh bucket of my vomit.

If no, then I wasn't talking about you.

QUESTION 4:

Did you come to PD for the express purpose of getting REALLY FUCKING MAD because that's the only way you can feel alive, and FUCK anyone who gets hurt by all this?

If yes, then you are Welsh.

If no, then I wasn't talking about you.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 08:53:53 PM
I didn't mean you either, demosquid. More mad at myself for being a crap poster of late.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 31, 2013, 08:53:53 PM
I didn't mean you either, demosquid. More mad at myself for being a crap poster of late.

Crap posting isn't the problem, and your statement isn't accurate in the first place.

The problem is people deciding that the purpose of this board is either to feel really superior to other people, or to factionalize and be a complete dickhead.

Getting mad and hollering in a thread isn't a problem.  Holding a grudge over it with the intent of poisoning the board IS.

"Crap posting" isn't the problem.  NOT posting IS. 

Big Words wasn't "crap posting", and nobody expects War and Peace out of anyone once a week.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Demolition Squid on October 31, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
Thanks for clearing that up.  :lol:

I think I see what you are getting at, though. In the past, we've tried to put ourselves out there. Posters, magazines, forum safari, fighting for the corner of the Discordian in the pagan community. When those projects were underway, 'complacent' definitely wouldn't fit.

There's still a lot of neat stuff being made and posted. Queen Gogira's work is awesome. Roger, you consistently write brilliant stuff, and there's still interesting discussions being had when something sparks them off...

But we're not trying to find a bigger audience any more. We are waiting for people to come to us... and as we've said before, PD.com Discordianism bears very little resemblance to the sort of discordianism people are likely to be expecting.

You can only get so far preaching to the choir, is what I guess I'm driving at.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 31, 2013, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 31, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
Thanks for clearing that up.  :lol:

A big hint is that I replied to you.  Some people are off my radar for life, as of this week.

QuoteI think I see what you are getting at, though. In the past, we've tried to put ourselves out there. Posters, magazines, forum safari, fighting for the corner of the Discordian in the pagan community. When those projects were underway, 'complacent' definitely wouldn't fit.

There's still a lot of neat stuff being made and posted. Queen Gogira's work is awesome. Roger, you consistently write brilliant stuff, and there's still interesting discussions being had when something sparks them off...

But we're not trying to find a bigger audience any more. We are waiting for people to come to us... and as we've said before, PD.com Discordianism bears very little resemblance to the sort of discordianism people are likely to be expecting.

You can only get so far preaching to the choir, is what I guess I'm driving at.

I've been reposting stuff at other boards, trying to spread the word a bit...And with some success.  In fact, that's the reason I decided to continue with PD.  It's a good scratchpad, if nothing else.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Ben Shapiro on October 31, 2013, 10:15:27 PM
This thread makes me feel all fuzzy inside. Like a baby Bink's is going to burst through my heart.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Golden Applesauce on October 31, 2013, 11:58:40 PM
Quote from: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
When I first joined PD all y'all were still in the post-BIP glow.

Whoa, I never realized that. That puts you joining not that far before I did. I always assumed that you were here since the very beginning. In the beginning was the Word and all that.

Quote from: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
I approached every single poster here with a sense of inferiority and awe because that collection of writings changed my life. It was exactly what I needed to read at that specific point in my life.

For the most part, I am still humbled by you - collectively and individually. Even posters I don't like, I have some strange kind of respect for... I guess I just want to say I love you?

As someone who also joined shortly after the BIP, I share a lot of same feelings.

Quote from: Demolition Squid on October 31, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
But we're not trying to find a bigger audience any more. We are waiting for people to come to us... and as we've said before, PD.com Discordianism bears very little resemblance to the sort of discordianism people are likely to be expecting.

I think this is the thing. I never really participated in the safaris, so I have no right to complain, but it was nice when y'all brought new people back. Everyone here is interesting to talk to, but talking to the same group of people gets old after five years or so.

There's something I should be doing to help that fits within my energy reserves (make a special effort to interact with noobs?) and I need to figure out what that is and commit to doing it. PD means a lot to me, but I've been totally leeching for at least the last two years.

Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 31, 2013, 05:53:01 PM
Id prefer not to abandon the treehouse. I get attached to things and this place has been a big part of my life these last fourish years. I made some really good friends here. By the same token revitalizing is difficult to do and this place certainly isnt as populated as it was in '10.
I think some people moved on others had nothing to say anymore and others just didnt get along with some of us or there was some sort of blow out.

We have been complacent.

VERY, VERY complacent.

Yeah. I've been getting the same sense of doom, but instead of doing anything about it I've been withdrawing from PD and worsening the problem. I'm glad you made this thread.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Payne on November 01, 2013, 05:41:32 AM
Quote from: :regret: on October 31, 2013, 08:18:32 PM


Quote from: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
When I first joined PD all y'all were still in the post-BIP glow. I approached every single poster here with a sense of inferiority and awe because that collection of writings changed my life. It was exactly what I needed to read at that specific point in my life.

For the most part, I am still humbled by you - collectively and individually. Even posters I don't like, I have some strange kind of respect for.

My own interaction with Discordia and this, the premier Discordian forum on the whole damn interwubs, has been an awkward and clunky affair all the way through. I've never had a blow out with an established member of this community. I've done my fair share of shitting on the woefully and purposely ignorant. I have WOMPed things that no mortal man should ever WOMP. But I've never blown anyone away with something I have done or said. I have never Saved The DayTM. And Curly will never be seen again, no matter how many maps of the Lost Highway I draw.

Anyway. I'm rambling. I guess I just want to say I love you?
Love you too.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 31, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: Payne on October 31, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
But I've never blown anyone away with something I have done or said.

Factually incorrect.  Curly on the wrong side of the police line was GENIUS.
I do believe i missed that, linky?

I can't remember it clearly. I've spoken about Curly a lot.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 01, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
An elephant ITT.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 01, 2013, 07:48:09 AM
Quote from: holist on November 01, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
An elephant ITT.

Where? I thought there were humans ITT.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 01, 2013, 09:07:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 01, 2013, 07:48:09 AM
Quote from: holist on November 01, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
An elephant ITT.

Where? I thought there were humans ITT.

Well yes. Many humans. And an elephant.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on November 01, 2013, 09:39:50 AM
I'm *this* close to feeling a bit guilty about the whole state of affairs. I'm part of what's wrong with this board but I like it too much to leave. Decency? I'm not aware of having ever possessed a shred, so there's that. Like LMNO said in another thread - I'm a jackass. I didn't take offence to that, in case anyone was wondering. It's a fair comment. If I had to pick a single word to describe myself, "Jackass" would probably be up there (right underneath the C-word)

Thing is I can't take butthurt seriously. Drama and delicate little fee-fees push my facepalm buttons so hard I can't see straight. My jackass nature finds poking it with sticks almost impossible to resist. The paradox is, out of all the talking meat on this planet, you guys are some of the ones I respect the most but anytime someone flys off the handle at some throwaway wisecrack or ill-phrased comment (especially when it's glaringly obvious thats NOT WHAT THEY FUCKING MEANT) as an excuse to devolve into a foaming pile of righteous indignity I find respect taking a backseat, while the jackass takes the wheel.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 01, 2013, 04:30:53 PM
I'm just not interested anymore. Every thread, however promising, seems to turn into something banal and grindingly dull like weight-loss dieting or sports. Even though there are threads for those.

Still, I keep on clicking out of habit.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Salty on November 02, 2013, 12:14:46 AM
I just do what I've always done: say what I have to say, ignore the derp, and try to develop my writing.

I've said it before, but I'll likely be here until it's a crater.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on November 02, 2013, 12:19:05 AM
Quote from: Alty on November 02, 2013, 12:14:46 AM
I just do what I've always done: say what I have to say, ignore the derp, and try to develop my writing.

I've said it before, but I'll likely be here until it's a crater.

Likewise.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on November 02, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
But you have to note the derp so you don't get it on your shoes.

Quote from: holist on November 01, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
(http://images.wikia.com/smuff/images/f/f3/Derp.gif)

ftfy
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 03, 2013, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 02, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
But you have to note the derp so you don't get it on your shoes.

Quote from: holist on November 01, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
(http://images.wikia.com/smuff/images/f/f3/Derp.gif)

ftfy

Now look what you've done! I showed my dog and he's been like this ever since:

(http://blog.holist.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Alex_shocked.jpg)
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 03, 2013, 04:06:56 PM
This board has changed my perspective and educated me on a lot of things - mostly how I handle my own bullshit better. I appreciate that quite a bit. Thank you very much, y'all. I've watched the board change in the short time I've been here and I'm not sure what to do about it except post more in the threads I find interesting. So I will work on that.

I don't know that I particularly worry about having an audience for the stuff I write. Mostly it's the attention span issue. Also, I come up with fixes for plot problems in my writing but I'm always at work or in the car or something when that happens and I don't write it down, then I forget because ooh shiny. So I will work on that, too.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on November 03, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
I like to be challenged. Not "FUCK YOU YOU'RE WRONG" challenged, but actually challenged intellectually. I'm not just throwing ideas out there to see how many people I can offend, I'm doing it because I want someone to challenge them, to articulately and intelligently show me where I'm wrong and, if I'm not wrong, to force me to examine and defend my idea really thoroughly. I might start with a half-baked idea and by the time I'm done defending it, I'll know whether I really stand behind it. Sometimes I don't. That's growth. This place has been a good place for doing that, historically.
Title: Re: Damn You All
Post by: Dildo Argentino on November 04, 2013, 05:54:27 PM
Quote from: holist on November 03, 2013, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on November 02, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
But you have to note the derp so you don't get it on your shoes.

Quote from: holist on November 01, 2013, 06:39:57 AM
(http://images.wikia.com/smuff/images/f/f3/Derp.gif)

ftfy

Now look what you've done! I showed my dog and he's been like this ever since:

(http://blog.holist.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Alex_shocked.jpg)

He is still down, you know! He killed a teddybear, ate some conkers and chewed up a drugstore mag, and it didn't help!

(http://blog.holist.hu/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Alex-Still-Down.jpg)