(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Phobos_colour_2008.jpg/200px-Phobos_colour_2008.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Deimos-MRO.jpg/200px-Deimos-MRO.jpg)
Color image of Phobos (MRO, 23 March 2008). Color image of Deimos (MRO, 21 February 2009).
Phobos (panic/fear) Both satellites were discovered in 1877 by Asaph Hall Deimos (terror/dread)
10.8×10^15 9,377 km period (h)7.66 | 2×10^15 23,460 km 30.35h
27 by 22 by 18 km ?=10.5K Km^3
10.8×10^15 / 10.5K Km^3 =naOK#
Mass: 10,658,529,896,187,200 kg
/ Volume: 5,729 km3 =1.86e12kg/1e9m3 = 1.86e6Kg/M3 =1860kg/cm3:
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Mar_Phobos
(http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/PhobosJupiter160X120(3)1.jpg)
(http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/Phobos%20and%20Deimos732X5201.jpg)
as seen from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter's low orbit around Mars.
taken at 0119 UTC on 23 October 2007 (9:19 p.m. EDT on Oct. 22),
Phobos orbits Mars in a shorter time than Mars' 24 hour, 37.4-minute period
appear to rise in the west and set in the east.
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/display.cfm?Category=Planets&IM_ID=5823
Phobos and Dimo!
I'd live there.
Yesterday Tuesday at 12:34 My Car Rot rocket left its launch
site for the 3 targets of Mars 2 moons & A no name dust particle tbc
Quote from: Suu on November 14, 2013, 12:52:34 AM
Phobos and Dimo!
Natch, U: UNderstand Dime 0 as well as any 5:10 PM pdT
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/mars/moons.html
(http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/mars/phobos.gif) .<dust (http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/mars/deimos.jpg)
I, will assume U did find a phone:: & were able to cash in on that fact.
a good bit of detective work {clearly), & art you may be very cleaver at
CONgratulations: /-/.
5:32pm Phobos radius =11.1 km
The most prominent surface feature is the crater Stickney?
Now bac2CAR Rot & Dime No {the name i gave dust part
(https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/images/PHOBOS_520x369.jpg)
THUS it appears clear to me that the big crater "?" had enough energy to
cause a Big flake to crack | however it remains attached / in place for
some reason? tbc {Maybe {{ subject 2 ???
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 12:58:34 AM
I'd live there.
Actually, once we start thinking about building actual starships, Phobos and Deimos would be ideal places to build them. You could have raw materials and manufacturing on Mars, and have Phobos and Deimos act as the shipyards. In order to do that, all three would need to be inhabited. The upshot is that there's no life on Mars, so we can strip mine it and pollute the already mostly carbon dioxide atmosphere all we want.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 14, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 12:58:34 AM
I'd live there.
Actually, once we start thinking about building actual starships, Phobos and Deimos would be ideal places to build them. You could have raw materials and manufacturing on Mars, and have Phobos and Deimos act as the shipyards. In order to do that, all three would need to be inhabited. The upshot is that there's no life on Mars, so we can strip mine it and pollute the already mostly carbon dioxide atmosphere all we want.
I call dibs on Deimos!
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 02:34:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 14, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 12:58:34 AM
I'd live there.
Actually, once we start thinking about building actual starships, Phobos and Deimos would be ideal places to build them. You could have raw materials and manufacturing on Mars, and have Phobos and Deimos act as the shipyards. In order to do that, all three would need to be inhabited. The upshot is that there's no life on Mars, so we can strip mine it and pollute the already mostly carbon dioxide atmosphere all we want.
I call dibs on Deimos!
You may have to fight Dimo for it. Or if he clones himself, you may have to fight Dimos for it.
I demand that Phobos has a crazed Russian Anarcho-Technocrat living on it, with a "Science Lab" and a big mahoosive laser.
Pretty much like Kim Stanley Robinson and my abortive "World Ship" game setting predicted.
Quote from: Payne on November 14, 2013, 03:08:37 AM
I demand that Phobos has a crazed Russian Anarcho-Technocrat living on it, with a "Science Lab" and a big mahoosive laser.
Pretty much like Kim Stanley Robinson and my abortive "World Ship" game setting predicted.
The huge wonkin' crater would be great for the business end of the laser.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 14, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 12:58:34 AM
I'd live there.
Actually, there's no life on Mars,
12:47-?
i RATHER DOUBT THIS My guess is that there is
My guess is Mars was Millions if not Billions of years ahead of Earth?
that Life evolved Much the same as Earth only much faster
as the water left the surface Life on Mars had to readjust to
underground? Much as Earth has the Satellite WEB MARS May have
Something similar underground {AI) & intensely advanced of Earth
visa's required on the Planet / /\/ot4 the moons however 12:58
Quote from: hirley0 on November 14, 2013, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 14, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 12:58:34 AM
I'd live there.
Actually, there's no life on Mars,
12:47-?
i RATHER DOUBT THIS My guess is that there is
My guess is Mars was Millions if not Billions of years ahead of Earth?
that Life evolved Much the same as Earth only much faster
as the water left the surface Life on Mars had to readjust to
underground? Much as Earth has the Satellite WEB MARS May have
Something similar underground {AI) & intensely advanced of Earth
visa's required on the Planet / /\/ot4 the moons however 12:58
You have a point there but there is no evidence for it, and it would most certainly be microbial, probably not even eukaryotic. It's entirely possible. Water bears on Earth can survive temperatures near absolute zero and IIRC can be dehydrated for several years and just go dormant. I think that Mars once had life, but I reckon its all extinct now. I could be wrong but we would have to demonstrate subterranean (submartial?) liquid water to make that more plausible.
1-2pm in search of ????/ from Phobos period 7.66(h)ours
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/target/Phobos
(http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/thumb/PIA10371.jpg) (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA10371.jpg) (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA01332.jpg)(http://i.space.com/images/i/000/022/208/i02/mars-rover-curiosity-crescent-moon-phobos-full.jpg?1348761099)
while you were typi 1:21
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 14, 2013, 09:13:45 PM
You have a point
i doubt this also{there is no evidence for it
Bed Bugs aRe all the "evidence" i need{ THOSE in
u mean: retaliation for curiosity {yeah?yeah) = start of inner planet Wars
Look if BB's aRe from Mars | it is very reasonable to me that is the case
they (AI)/Mars } far far ahead of anything EartThings can eveN think of
http://www.space.com/17790-mars-rover-curiosity-phobos-moon-photo.html
(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/images/mep/allaboutmars/p4_sm.gif) (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/images/mep/allaboutmars/p3_sm.gif) (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_marte/marte15_03.jpg)
Hall crater on Phobos. Largest crater Stickney Last picture transmitted
diameter 6 km diameter 10 km by Phobos-2 25 March 1989
the ill-fated Soviet Mars probe Phobos-2.
:fnord: Mars Global Surveyor (http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/marsurv.html) {about March, 1999
(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_marte/marte21_02.gif)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/marte_phobos02.htm
(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_marte/marte15_10.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_program http://www.phobos2.com/
http://www.phobos2.com/images/55103h_ani.gif
?" a point there but there is no evidence for it "?
0K Let me try the gravity approach? if i May?
the number i came up with for Kg/cc
does suggest the suggestion
Phobos is hollow
May be
TRUE?
Quote from: hirley0 on November 14, 2013, 12:30:37 AM
Mass: 10,658,529,896,187,200 kg ? 27 by 22 by 18 km in diameter.=10.7K
/ Volume: 5,729 km3 =1.86e12kg/1e9m3 = 1.86e6Kg/M3 =1860kg/cm3:
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Mar_Phobos
~" Measurements of Phobos' orbit and density, tell us that it is HOLLOW "~
^ http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/marte_phobos02.htm ^
IF it were possible to retard the motion I WOULD
(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_marte/marte21_02.gif) the gravity wave produced is of interest:
todays conclusion WAS it rotates CCW not CW ?7.66Hr = 460Min\360 =
18/23 ABOUT 3 DEGREES IN 4Min
7:55
0K My admitted Li D'LuSHunALL acount of phobo birth
it was an Astoid:? Look in my version B4 there was
an astroid there was a planet AsTry m v e mARSFELLOW A
THE FITH OUT FROM THE SUN. IT {AsTry was blasted to
bits in a war between MarsFellow & AsTry. MarsFellow
was obliterated | no trace left in the solar system
ONLY MarsFellows Moon Mars, where THE MarsFellowian
Rements evacuate to durring/AFTER the WAR.
WHEN? the "MarsFellowian"'s blasted AsTry to bits
IT {"AsTry (centeral) bits" {Astroid ({phobo})
were Molten hot? the St crater blow caused the
molten middel of p to spert out the far side +>(=)->
Leaving the center hollow. so its a natural holo-
sphere not man made | other than the result of MF
blast2bits of AsTry
THUS: THERE EXISTS: a natural dwelling place
good for a few million more years, & all that
need be done is land on the far side and clear
the passage which no doubt is mostly blocked
by fallen rocks
So task #1 is to open the portal & get on with
the program | No Visa Required | its an Astroid
& the MF_n's have no more claim to it than
7:56
BESIDES THAT: the sending of a probe to Phobos
makes about as much sense as G. Wash to Phillipeans
Look? something is Rong. Something should
be done: How many ships did Thatcher send
to the FalkLands
--
0K i'LL check the Tail myself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War
Royal Navy {by my count 110 Total
Active
Alacrity
Ambuscade
Andromeda
Antelope S
Antrim
Ardent S
Argonaut
Arrow
Avenger
Brilliant
Bristol
Broadsword
Cardiff
Conqueror
Cordella
Courageous
Coventry S
Dumbarton Castle
Endurance
Exeter
Famella
Fearless
Glamorgan
Glasgow
Hecla
Herald
Hermes
Hydra
Intrepid
Invincible
Junella
Leeds Castle
Minerva
Northella
Onyx
Penelope
Pict
Plymouth
Sheffield S
Spartan
Splendid
Valiant
Yarmouth
Royal Fleet Auxiliary
Appleleaf
Brambleleaf
Bayleaf
Blue Rover
Engadine
Fort Austin
Fort Grange
Plumleaf
Pearleaf
Olna
Olmeda
Regent
Resource
Sir Bedivere
Sir Galahad S
Sir Geraint
Sir Lancelot
Sir Percivale
Sir Tristram
Stromness
Tidespring
Tidepool
United Kingdom Ships Taken Up From Trade
Alvega
Anco Charger
Astronomer
Atlantic Conveyor S
Atlantic Causeway
Avelona Star
Balder London
Baltic Ferry
British Avon
British Dart
British Enterprise III
British Esk
British Tamar
British Test
British Trent
British Wye
Canberra
Contender Bezant
Eburna
Elk
Europic Ferry
Fort Toronto
G.A.Walker
Geesport
Iris
Irishman
Laertes
Lycaon
Nordic Ferry
Norland
Queen Elizabeth 2
Rangatira
Salvageman
Saxonia
Scottish Eagle
St Edmund
St Helena
Stena Inspector
Stena Seaspread
Strathewe
Tor Caledonia
Uganda
Wimpey Seahorse
Yorkshireman
Royal Maritime Auxiliary Service
Goosander
Typhoon
S - Sunk
=
My point is | is makes no sense to me to send 1.
the wind speed i heard was 360K/H So 360 Ships
from each of the 5 permanent members of Security
Council seams the proper number to deploy
?
& 1 gets sent????/ Who invented ThaT
5 * 360 = 1.8K
/TilT\
bac2rocketts to Phobos
Min 5 from each of the 5 = 25 Min
With Coordination | no more fly by Night BS
Phobos is hollow? Now i want to live on/in it even more!
Quote from: :regret: on November 15, 2013, 07:28:57 PM
Phobos is hollow? Now i want to live on/in it even more!
Do we have to fight the mole people for yet ANOTHER planet?
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 02:34:21 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 14, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on November 14, 2013, 12:58:34 AM
I'd live there.
Actually, once we start thinking about building actual starships, Phobos and Deimos would be ideal places to build them. You could have raw materials and manufacturing on Mars, and have Phobos and Deimos act as the shipyards. In order to do that, all three would need to be inhabited. The upshot is that there's no life on Mars, so we can strip mine it and pollute the already mostly carbon dioxide atmosphere all we want.
I call dibs on Deimos!
20131116 03:04:59.am My clock may be fast OR?
anyway the first 5 group | communications / recon / observation
1&2 Geosync above portal & 90 degrees away
3 on the surface ? at the rim | of portal crater
4 Geo/Mars itself & #5 TBd ... robotics .. no human presence
ad 194 / 20131118
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 05:33:17 AM
10 hours ago ... November 17, 2013: The United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket with NASA's Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN) spacecraft
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/11/18/nasa-set-to-launch-robotic-explorer-to-mars/
AS A's MAVEN spacecraft blasted off aboard an unmanned Atlas V rocket at 1:28 p.m. EST Monday afternoon | A for Alliance
(http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/660/371/NASAexplorerlaunch3.jpg?ve=1)
Quote from: PopeSlag on November 15, 2013, 11:25:20 PM
Quote from: :regret: on November 15, 2013, 07:28:57 PM
Phobos is hollow? Now i want to live on/in it even more!
Do we have to fight the mole people for yet ANOTHER planet?
My guess is :"YES": Very soon to Already underway
Skipping ahead to the 2nd 5: com established
& it is Hole clean out time | prior to air lock insertion
these of course would be Robots . Multi Armed / trencher ATt
.5 1, &10T mods / explosives for really big 1's
The density of Phobos has now been directly measured by spacecraft to be 1.887 g/cm3 :fnord: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_%28moon%29#Shklovsky.27s_.22Hollow_Phobos.22_hypothesis)
void space is mostly on small scales (millimeters to ~1-m) <NOt:
The porosity of Phobos was calculated to be 30% ± 5%, or a quarter to a third of the moon being hollow.
composition containing mainly phyllosilicates "chondrite " (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondrite){NoPe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylosilicate#Phyllosilicates {yep
basalt are mainly chlorite, kaolinite, epidote, tremolite {Study on Feas
Chlorite - (Mg,Fe)3(Si,Al)4O10(OH)2•(Mg,Fe)3(OH)6 / Sg, 2.6–3.3
Kaolinite{2.16–2.68) - Al2Si2O5(OH)4 | ?/? | (Si4O11), tremolite{2.99 – 3.03)Thus the RU.objection was 1 of THEM^ Not aN uFo
a specific gravity of 3.25 to 3.55 { My guess the ejected core was >3.
Volume: 5,729 km3. Mass: 10,658,529,896,187,200 kg. :fnord: (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Mar_Phobos)
Density Metric: 1.872 g/cm3 v 3. = 1/3 of mass missing {insides
the volume inside a sphere / ? / (http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/6/7/e678db0137d57dddf5d66f02a6fdf4ef.png)
Density Metric: 1.872 g/cm3 v 3. = 1/3 of mass missing {insides=5.3e15
the volume inside a sphere / ? / (http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/e/6/7/e678db0137d57dddf5d66f02a6fdf4ef.png)
? 5.73e3 * Me = 15.9e15 | Me=2.8e12 ?|? /3 = 1 | ...
Volume * Spacific gravity = Mass ?
V=M/Me2 aka Missing Volume = 5.3e15 / Me/3 {1) | ...
Mv= 5.3e15/((2.8e12)/3) = 5678.????/ | ...
TV= 5729 - 5678 Mv = 51 or a lot of space inside?
ission costs $671 million. / "We don't have that answer yet
_
My guess is about as follows, Phobos is a chunk out
of the side of Mars | Just as Earths Moon | there should be a scar
| Just as there is the Pacific Basin So Lemmee Look
.1 how big is the Moon | The moon is about one-fourth as big as Earth
a? 1/80th of Earth's mass and 1/ 50th of Earth's volume
b~ volume contains 2.195 x 10^10 km3
2: Pacific Basin | volume of the Pacific Ocean
a? estimated at some 714 million cubic kilometers. thats an 8
b~~ i do assume that due to continental drift, double 7
c? hmm? My guess is Moon does contain its creator ? at the core
4: Mars's P Mean Radius: 11.1 km. Volume: 5,729 km3. Pretty tiny e=3
a i can find my best guess using "crater" basic / from win 98 |tbd}
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:07:37 AM
ission costs $671 million. / "We don't have that answer yet
_
My guess is about as follows, Phobos is a chunk out
of the side of Mars | Just as Earths Moon | there should be a scar
| Just as there is the Pacific Basin So Lemmee Look
.1 how big is the Moon | The moon is about one-fourth as big as Earth
a? 1/80th of Earth's mass and 1/ 50th of Earth's volume
b~ volume contains 2.195 x 10^10 km3
2: Pacific Basin | volume of the Pacific Ocean
a? estimated at some 714 million cubic kilometers. thats an 8
b~~ i do assume that due to continental drift, double 7
c? hmm? My guess is Moon does contain its creator ? at the core
4: Mars's P Mean Radius: 11.1 km. Volume: 5,729 km3. Pretty tiny e=3
a i can find my best guess using "crater" basic / from win 98 |tbd}
Both Phobos and Deimos are probably captured asteroids. We do know that Phobos will eventually collide with Mars. Likewise we know that Deimos will eventually drift from Martian orbit.
It is almost certain that Luna (to specify Earth's moon) was formed from an impact with proto-Earth and a Mars sized body, which eventually sank in and became the Earth's interior, at an oblique angle. Actually, Luna is probably unique in the solar system in that it is not either a captured satellite nor a body that coalesced in the same orbit, Luna is the direct offspring of its parent planet. Luna, incidentally, would eventually fling off from Earth orbit, but the Sun's death will put an end to that process well before it comes to be.
Hirley, you might be interested to know that I was going to pick your brain about the discrepancy between Venus' mass and Earth's mass and comparing the density of their atmospheres. Turns out that Earth's atmosphere was thinned by carbon dioxide sequestering because of liquid water. Nitrogen obviously came through other processes and the oxygen came about through photosynthesis, thus making atmospheric oxygen more or less a smoking gun in the search for extraterrestrial life, since, well, oxygen is a highly volatile gas.
ad 198 i think moon returns to Earth & < 1e9 (B}?
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:14:08 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:07:37 AM
ission costs $671 million. / "We don't have that answer yet
_
My guess is about as follows, Phobos is a chunk out
of the side of Mars | Just as Earths Moon | there should be a scar
| Just as there is the Pacific Basin So Lemmee Look
.1 how big is the Moon | The moon is about one-fourth as big as Earth
a? 1/80th of Earth's mass and 1/ 50th of Earth's volume
b~ volume contains 2.195 x 10^10 km3
2: Pacific Basin | volume of the Pacific Ocean
a? estimated at some 714 million cubic kilometers. thats an 8
b~~ i do assume that due to continental drift, double 7
c? hmm? My guess is Moon does contain its creator ? at the core
4: Mars's P Mean Radius: 11.1 km. Volume: 5,729 km3. Pretty tiny e=3
a i can find my best guess using "crater" basic / from win 98 |tbd}
Both Phobos and Deimos are probably captured asteroids. We do know that Phobos will eventually collide with Mars. Likewise we know that Deimos will eventually drift from Martian orbit.
It is almost certain that Luna (to specify Earth's moon) was formed from an impact with proto-Earth and a Mars sized body, which eventually sank in and became the Earth's interior, at an oblique angle. Actually, Luna is probably unique in the solar system in that it is not either a captured satellite nor a body that coalesced in the same orbit, Luna is the direct offspring of its parent planet. Luna, incidentally, would eventually fling off from Earth orbit, but the Sun's death will put an end to that process well before it comes to be.
ad 198 that said i came away from BASIC with a new idea
it was not an impactor {however its spelled | it was a volcanic eruption.
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:29:59 AM
ad 198 i think moon returns to Earth & < 1e9 (B}?
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:14:08 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:07:37 AM
ission costs $671 million. / "We don't have that answer yet
_
My guess is about as follows, Phobos is a chunk out
of the side of Mars | Just as Earths Moon | there should be a scar
| Just as there is the Pacific Basin So Lemmee Look
.1 how big is the Moon | The moon is about one-fourth as big as Earth
a? 1/80th of Earth's mass and 1/ 50th of Earth's volume
b~ volume contains 2.195 x 10^10 km3
2: Pacific Basin | volume of the Pacific Ocean
a? estimated at some 714 million cubic kilometers. thats an 8
b~~ i do assume that due to continental drift, double 7
c? hmm? My guess is Moon does contain its creator ? at the core
4: Mars's P Mean Radius: 11.1 km. Volume: 5,729 km3. Pretty tiny e=3
a i can find my best guess using "crater" basic / from win 98 |tbd}
Both Phobos and Deimos are probably captured asteroids. We do know that Phobos will eventually collide with Mars. Likewise we know that Deimos will eventually drift from Martian orbit.
It is almost certain that Luna (to specify Earth's moon) was formed from an impact with proto-Earth and a Mars sized body, which eventually sank in and became the Earth's interior, at an oblique angle. Actually, Luna is probably unique in the solar system in that it is not either a captured satellite nor a body that coalesced in the same orbit, Luna is the direct offspring of its parent planet. Luna, incidentally, would eventually fling off from Earth orbit, but the Sun's death will put an end to that process well before it comes to be.
ad 198 that said i came away from BASIC with a new idea
it was not an impactor {however its spelled | it was a volcanic eruption.
I don't know what ad 198 means.
It is however proven that the Moon is moving away from the Earth an average on one inch per year. Data has been collected since the first human landing on this.
That would also be one hell of an eruption too.
I'd like to see what you have on that.
Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies haQuote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:19:19 AM
Hirley, you might be interested to know that I was going to pick your brain about the discrepancy between Venus' mass and Earth's mass and comparing the density of their atmospheres. Turns out that Earth's atmosphere was thinned by carbon dioxide sequestering because of liquid water. Nitrogen obviously came through other processes and the oxygen came about through photosynthesis, thus making atmospheric oxygen more or less a smoking gun in the search for extraterrestrial life, since, well, oxygen is a highly volatile gas.
ad 198 that is fine by me /-/owever Mine has been so badly
damaged in the fray that i do NOT trust it in any way whatsoever
it continues to com up with the rong dog. Anyway Looking }
oxygen (yeah as in H2O water
carbon dioxide CO2 ? why is the number a suffix????/ & not A preMe
Nitrogen yeah? as in Laughing gas is my guess
it seams to methat U r leaving out Argon
Krackatoe
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:33:05 AM
That would also be one hell of an eruption too.
I'd like to see what you have on that.
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Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:32:01 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:29:59 AM
ad 198 i think moon returns to Earth & < 1e9 (B}?
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:14:08 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:07:37 AM
ission costs $671 million. / "We don't have that answer yet
_
My guess is about as follows, Phobos is a chunk out
of the side of Mars | Just as Earths Moon | there should be a scar
| Just as there is the Pacific Basin So Lemmee Look
.1 how big is the Moon | The moon is about one-fourth as big as Earth
a? 1/80th of Earth's mass and 1/ 50th of Earth's volume
b~ volume contains 2.195 x 10^10 km3
2: Pacific Basin | volume of the Pacific Ocean
a? estimated at some 714 million cubic kilometers. thats an 8
b~~ i do assume that due to continental drift, double 7
c? hmm? My guess is Moon does contain its creator ? at the core
4: Mars's P Mean Radius: 11.1 km. Volume: 5,729 km3. Pretty tiny e=3
a i can find my best guess using "crater" basic / from win 98 |tbd}
Both Phobos and Deimos are probably captured asteroids. We do know that Phobos will eventually collide with Mars. Likewise we know that Deimos will eventually drift from Martian orbit.
It is almost certain that Luna (to specify Earth's moon) was formed from an impact with proto-Earth and a Mars sized body, which eventually sank in and became the Earth's interior, at an oblique angle. Actually, Luna is probably unique in the solar system in that it is not either a captured satellite nor a body that coalesced in the same orbit, Luna is the direct offspring of its parent planet. Luna, incidentally, would eventually fling off from Earth orbit, but the Sun's death will put an end to that process well before it comes to be.
ad 198 that said i came away from BASIC with a new idea
it was not an impactor {however its spelled | it was a volcanic eruption.
I don't know what ad 198 means.
It is however proven that the Moon is moving away from the Earth an average on one inch per year. Data has been collected since the first human landing on this.
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:40:18 AM
Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies ha
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:19:19 AM
Hirley, you might be interested to know that I was going to pick your brain about the discrepancy between Venus' mass and Earth's mass and comparing the density of their atmospheres. Turns out that Earth's atmosphere was thinned by carbon dioxide sequestering because of liquid water. Nitrogen obviously came through other processes and the oxygen came about through photosynthesis, thus making atmospheric oxygen more or less a smoking gun in the search for extraterrestrial life, since, well, oxygen is a highly volatile gas.
ad 198 that is fine by me /-/owever Mine has been so badly
damaged in the fray that i do NOT trust it in any way whatsoever
it continues to com up with the rong dog. Anyway Looking }
oxygen (yeah as in H2O water
carbon dioxide CO2 ? why is the number a suffix????/ & not A preMe
Nitrogen yeah? as in Laughing gas is my guess
it seams to methat U r leaving out Argon
You are right, but argon was virtually non existent in the original atmosphere, and is negligible in the current (though IIRC, third most abundant)
That does bring up another interesting thing though. Nitrogen, while unbreathable in the sense that our lungs don't use it, is necessary to make air breathable, and it's not exactly an abundant gas elsewhere. What do you think about getting about 78% N2 gas locally when we get to the colonization business?
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:42:44 AM
Krackatoe
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:33:05 AM
That would also be one hell of an eruption too.
I'd like to see what you have on that.
Krakatoa didn't produce a lunar mass object, though.
well space monkey what can a water monkey say ?
It is however proven that the Moon is moving away from the Earth an average on one inch per year. Data has been collected since the first human landing on this.
yes: i agree it currently is doing exactly that / more slowly each Ms
eventually, as Moon & Earth gain mass, it slows to " 0 "
& then it turns tail.
yping 2 new repli
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:50:53 AM
well space monkey what can a water monkey say ?
It is however proven that the Moon is moving away from the Earth an average on one inch per year. Data has been collected since the first human landing on this.
yes: i agree it currently is doing exactly that / more slowly each Ms
eventually, as Moon & Earth gain mass, it slows to " 0 "
& then it turns tail.
yping 2 new repli
How would either gain sufficient mass to reverse the process?
Hmm. I would have to think about how much mass either has gained through impacts over the past 4 some odd billion, and see where the trend is going.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
That does bring up another interesting thing though. Nitrogen, while unbreathable in the sense that our lungs don't use it, is necessary to make air breathable, and it's not exactly an abundant gas elsewhere. What do you think about getting about 78% N2 gas locally when we get to the colonization business?
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well i sort of doubt this.
i'LL guess there is a chance that the hollow in Phobos
has an atmosphere May need filtering? { a new r {{yeah yeah {{{U's win
My Reference was reguarding Energy{not to sure about Mass
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:48:20 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:42:44 AM
Krackatoe
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:33:05 AM
That would also be one hell of an eruption too.
I'd like to see what you have on that.
Krakatoa didn't produce a lunar mass object, though.
i will check later{it takes a lot of time to switch XP->W98
12:21 the next day ad 234 A <20Km sphere :fnord: Think Tualatin valley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tualatin_Valley)
A caldera 80 km (50 mi) wide is located at the summit of Olympus Mons
YES of course i will stick to Mons as "FROM WHENCE" it came
its reel easy 4Me to put the frames toGETher
.1 phobos is launched / with sufficient V to approach Orb
a. rising rather slowly / due to mass
2: a second more violent eruption = hi speed boster
b. when Booster hits phobos | hard enough
c: to cause phobos to loose its guts @->(_)=<
3? leaving a hollowed out P { Probably | gO Mons
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:50:53 AM
well space monkey what can a water monkey say ?
It is however proven that the Moon is moving away from the Earth an average on one inch per year. Data has been collected since the first human landing on this.
yes: i agree it currently is doing exactly that / more slowly each Ms
eventually, as Moon & Earth gain mass, it slows to " 0 "
& then it turns tail.
yping 2 new repli
How would either gain sufficient mass to reverse the process?
Hmm. I would have to think about how much mass either has gained through impacts over the past 4 some odd billion, and see where the trend is going.
Muy guess was in 4.5 Earth about doubled in mass
as for the Moon | i have no guesses | yet | only that | More arives than Leaves
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
That does bring up another interesting thing though. Nitrogen, while unbreathable in the sense that our lungs don't use it, is necessary to make air breathable, and it's not exactly an abundant gas elsewhere. What do you think about getting about 78% N2 gas locally when we get to the colonization business?
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well i sort of doubt this.
i'LL guess there is a chance that the hollow in Phobos
has an atmosphere May need filtering? { a new r {{yeah yeah {{{U's win
That possibility did occur to me as far as the discrepancy in density goes. It would have to be a very light atmosphere though, no? Otherwise the mass would be noticeable?
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 07:05:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:50:53 AM
well space monkey what can a water monkey say ?
It is however proven that the Moon is moving away from the Earth an average on one inch per year. Data has been collected since the first human landing on this.
yes: i agree it currently is doing exactly that / more slowly each Ms
eventually, as Moon & Earth gain mass, it slows to " 0 "
& then it turns tail.
yping 2 new repli
How would either gain sufficient mass to reverse the process?
Hmm. I would have to think about how much mass either has gained through impacts over the past 4 some odd billion, and see where the trend is going.
Muy guess was in 4.5 Earth about doubled in mass
as for the Moon | i have no guesses | yet | only that | More arives than Leaves
This is true. I suspect it's an overestimation, but I have nothing to base that on other than knowing that Heavy Bombardment would have to have ended before life could thrive and evolve.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 07:05:36 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:58:27 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
Nitrogen,
That possibility did occur to me
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 07:07:28 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 07:05:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:50:53 AM
space ? water ? yes: i agree
This is I suspect
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while you were reading 2 here R cheat notes anyway
_ 100 MEGATONNE STANDARD 1KM CRATER _
for an impactor of
DIAMETER = 100 meters DENSITY = 2600 Kg/m^3
VELOCITY = 25 Km/s entry ANGLE = 60 degrees
WITH KE = 4.254236E+17 JOULE
INPACTOR CREATOR DIAMETER
VOLUME %523598.3 M^3 ACTUAL 1090 M
MASS % 13.6E+08 Kg APPEARENT 1362 M
DEPTH
( 0) ERG 4.254236E+24 ACTUAL 272 M
( 6) JOULE 4.254236E+17 APPEARENT 218 M
(12) KWHR 1.181732E+11
(18) KT 101291
(24) Rh 4.254236 (24)Cr 1 (24)Ri 3
(30) Tp 0
(36) Sf 0 EJECTRA
(42) Ob 0 REMOVED % 1.3E+08 M^3
tbc in < 10
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 06:42:44 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:33:05 AM
That would also be one hell of an eruption too.
I'd like to see what you have on that.
Krackatoe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_Mons
actually i do not have cheat for K >
WITH KE = 1.104465E+19 JOULE
INPACTOR CREATOR DIAMETER
VOLUME % 1.4E+07 M^3 ACTUAL 2895 M
3.21299E+07 T MASS % 35.3E+09 Kg
APPEARENT 3619 M
DEPTH
( 0) ERG 1.104465E+26 ACTUAL 724 M
( 6) JOULE 1.104465E+19 APPEARENT 579 M
(12) KWHR 3.067959E+12
(18) KT 2629679
(24) Rh 110.4465 (24)Cr 2 (24)Ri 8
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 07:08:55 AM
while you were reading 2 here R cheat notes anyway
_ 100 MEGATONNE STANDARD 1KM CRATER _
for an impactor of
DIAMETER = 100 meters DENSITY = 2600 Kg/m^3
VELOCITY = 25 Km/s entry ANGLE = 60 degrees
WITH KE = 4.254236E+17 JOULE
INPACTOR CREATOR DIAMETER
VOLUME %523598.3 M^3 ACTUAL 1090 M
MASS % 13.6E+08 Kg APPEARENT 1362 M
DEPTH
( 0) ERG 4.254236E+24 ACTUAL 272 M
( 6) JOULE 4.254236E+17 APPEARENT 218 M
(12) KWHR 1.181732E+11
(18) KT 101291
(24) Rh 4.254236 (24)Cr 1 (24)Ri 3
(30) Tp 0
(36) Sf 0 EJECTRA
(42) Ob 0 REMOVED % 1.3E+08 M^3
tbc in < 10
This is the sort of thing that makes my eyes cross, and part of where I don't understand you. What am I looking at here? (Thank you, btw, whatever it is)
(I'm guessing it's a model of some sort of meteor hitting and the aftermath)
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 07:12:09 AM
(I'm guessing it's a model of some sort of meteor hitting and the aftermath)
yeah eXactly REMOVED % 1.3E+08 M^3
here is the clue / from 1KM crater / v Phobos # tbd}
Mass: 10,658,529,896,187,200 kg {{ rong A tbc}
11:33&1/3pm Volume: 5,729 km3 aka 5.7 e12 m^3
convert from km3 to m3 tbc TBD :LoC/lOc
Converterin. 1 km3 to m3 = 1000000000. km3 E9+3
k# PRIOR2new day? tbd} K_j e20 K_ejct e10 m3 ? 1Km?
i remind U however its about Olympus Mons not about K 11:51pm pSt
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 07:26:35 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 07:12:09 AM
(I'm guessing it's a model of some sort of meteor hitting and the aftermath)
yeah eXactly REMOVED % 1.3E+08 M^3
here is the clue / from 1KM crater / v Phobos # tbd}
So this is data to back up the hypothesis that Phobos was formed from the debris from an impactor on Mars.
246 FROM: A caldera 80 km wide {THIS 8 refutes ^~" from an impactor o "~
This is a WHITE Line _______________________
Impactor may refer to: A large meteoroid, asteroid, comet, or other celestial object
My Question is why Impactor / impactor / impactor are shown as Miss spelled!-!
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
246 FROM: A caldera 80 km wide {THIS 8 refutes ^~" from an impactor o "~
This is a WHITE Line _______________________
Impactor may refer to: A large meteoroid, asteroid, comet, or other celestial object
My Question is why Impactor / impactor / impactor are shown as Miss spelled!-!
That is in fact a white line.
What does it mean?
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 20, 2013, 01:01:20 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
246 FROM: A caldera 80 km wide {THIS 8 refutes ^~" from an impactor o "~
This is a WHITE Line _______________________
Impactor may refer to: A large meteoroid, asteroid, comet, or other celestial object
My Question is why Impactor / impactor / impactor are shown as Miss spelled!-!
That is in fact a white line.
What does it mean?
i best go low on this page????/
10:56-59
(http://s01.flagcounter.com/count/2Y/bg_FFFFFF/txt_000000/border_CCCCCC/columns_3/maxflags_21/viewers_3/labels_0/pageviews_0/flags_0/) white/blue/red ЯUssian flag
Quote from: hirley0 on November 20, 2013, 06:59:40 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 20, 2013, 01:01:20 AM
Quote from: hirley0 on November 19, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
246 FROM: A caldera 80 km wide {THIS 8 refutes ^~" from an impactor o "~
This is a WHITE Line _______________________
Impactor may refer to: A large meteoroid, asteroid, comet, or other celestial object
My Question is why Impactor / impactor / impactor are shown as Miss spelled!-!
That is in fact a white line.
What does it mean?
i best go low on this page????/
10:56-59
(http://s01.flagcounter.com/count/2Y/bg_FFFFFF/txt_000000/border_CCCCCC/columns_3/maxflags_21/viewers_3/labels_0/pageviews_0/flags_0/) white/blue/red ЯUssian flag
i got it Right the 1st time {AMaZing SA176 US87 UK33 CN10 ЯU6
My Guess is the Saudies have the site assigned as a?
college credit class in web hacking {however i donno {{ Just guessing
they arive Late on Site and Quickly became front runner
My second guess is they use the possition in lue of a seat on the UN
security council {which SA {{ rejected {{{ when Nominated
thus giving them SOMe Green status in the W/B/Я NEGOSHEATIONS ?¿
11:30 &
Such trivia as LoC {Loss of Carrier
& the Brits R hot on the Trail
tbd 10:33&1/3
1:39 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAXA
1:37 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNSA
1:36 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Space_Research_Organisation
1:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Space_Agency
1:3? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA
1:30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_space_program
1:23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Mars_Science_Laboratory
1:06 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAVEN
US$69 million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_Mission Mangalyaan
1:03&4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosity_rover
1:01pm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_%28rover%29
:fnord: 89th Comment (http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-spacecraft-poised-launch-clues-martian-air-062337800.html)
ad 347 Me again 4the 12-2 pm math 2Hr | find :fnord: (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/maven/main/) :fnord: (http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-spacecraft-poised-launch-clues-martian-air-062337800.html) :fnord: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAVEN)
ad 345 Some1 else / Music hour 9-10 got2Go tbc L8R
this is a red line ______. {4:10 | 5:20 } ad 318= Just Me.
4:06 ? opb\pbs\Ash*
ad 317 DW.de covered StOry at the 3:17 broadcast****
Followed by US NAturally {{{ad 300 {{ 11:42:32
Quote from: hirley0 on November 20, 2013, 07:30:34 PM
11:30 &
Such trivia as LoC {Loss of Carrier
& the Brits R hot on the Trail
tbd 10:33&1/3
launch window ? 20 days long and started on 28 October 2013.
Mangalyaan 5 November 2013 - transfer orbit on 1 December 2013 /24 September 2014
MAVEN November 18, 2013. /September 22, 2014
Something does not add up HERE to Me ????/
ad 363 3:45pm
exactly what brings about a " launch window " escapes my eye at this time
My next Quest is the moon as a gravity assist mechanism?
it seams reasonable to me that some series of orbits
that cause a close approach to the moon
should assist in saving fuel in a TRIP UP
6PM JPL :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32982.msg1309145.html#msg1309145)
6:11 The number i got was 17 months 12+5 n-n=12+5=April ????/
Quote from: hirley0 on November 21, 2013, 09:49:30 PM
launch window ? 20 days long and started on 28 October 2013.
Mangalyaan 5 November 2013 - transfer orbit on 1 December 2013 /24 September 2014
MAVEN November 18, 2013. /September 22, 2014
Something does not add up HERE to Me ????/
ad 363 3:45pm
exactly what brings about a " launch window " escapes my eye at this time
My next Quest is the moon as a gravity assist mechanism?
it seams reasonable to me that some series of orbits
that cause a close approach to the moon
should assist in saving fuel in a TRIP UP
6PM JPL :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32982.msg1309145.html#msg1309145)
6:11 The number i got was 17 months 12+5 n-n=12+5=April ????/
Hmm, I don't think you would save any fuel. Within the influence of the earth the effect of the moon is neglible, after all, you don't feel lighter when the moon is overhead. Only at the area where the moon's gravity and the earth's gravity are close to equal would this help. But even then if you would want to go anywhere outside of the imaginary line between the center of the moon and the center of the earth you would now have to escape both gravities.
It is good for a trip to the moon or a trip to the Lagrangian point L1, but other than that is likely to be a hindrance.
Maybe the moon can be used for a gravity assist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slingshot_maneuver)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slingshot_maneuver
I have no idea
there r things i consider myself as cleaver AT
SlingShots are not one | i made several in youth
none were effective that i recall / BB gun / Yes / slingshot / not4me
Mars Moon & Maven? |Just a min |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAVEN
i don't think i want to grab the wiki train on this trip
the WACKkee one sounds more along my line
No idea WHERE to grab 'ER 12:18 | I BEST SHOWER
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_Mars#Missions_to_the_moons_of_Mars
what i am after is MAVEN's orbital position day by day{ad 400
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/maven/launch/maven_briefs_events.html
the 14th will be ten days ago TOMORROW {Gimme A Q
http://lasp.colorado.edu/home/maven/2013/11/09/maven-briefings-and-events/
coverage | NOT verbiage
http://www.spaceflight101.com/maven-mission-profile.html
0K 4get it. {1:29:45 am ||| 11:42:51 am}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_Mars
En route
MOM 5 November 2013 Mangalyaan 11/5 :fnord: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_Mission) :fnord: (http://www.isro.org/mars/home.aspx) :fnord: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalyaan)
MAVEN 18 November 2013
Operational
Mars Odyssey 7 April 2001
Mars Express 2 June 2003
Opportunity(MER-B) 8 July 2003 :fnord: (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32982.msg1309624.html#msg1309624)
MRO 12 August 2005
Curiosity 26 November 2011
MAVEN 11/18
ORS 3 \
STPSat 3 \
28 CubeSats\ 11/20
Yaogan 19 11/20
CubeSats 32 11/21
Swarm ESA 11/22
Shiyan 5 11/25
SES-8 11/25
Progress M-21M 25
ad 428 v READ DOWN WEEK v
Listen? i have no idea where this is going
i see in ad 1 on this ? PAGE the string inst.
and my guess is that it is a 4 string
when? i do do math {conver to .vi) i do do 4 count 1 2 3 4
maybe as in 4/4 time{probably
if i find the ans | will repeat it {
4 3 times | tbc
11:55}4 12:15 3.1
Quote from: LuciferX on November 24, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
That does bring up another interesting thing though. Nitrogen, while unbreathable in the sense that our lungs don't use it, is necessary to make air breathable, and it's not exactly an abundant gas elsewhere. What do you think about getting about 78% N2 gas locally when we get to the colonization business?
Let's get the runoff from first greenhouses to create hypertrophic reservoirs that we feed to oxygen starved heterotrophic bacteria, enslaved and forced to produce nitrogen, and, and, we will be their gods once more! Hahahaha :wink:
Quote from: LuciferX on November 24, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
That does bring up another interesting thing though. Nitrogen, while unbreathable in the sense that our lungs don't use it, is necessary to make air breathable, and it's not exactly an abundant gas elsewhere. What do you think about getting about 78% N2 gas locally when we get to the colonization business?
Let's get the runoff from first greenhouses to create hypertrophic reservoirs that we feed to oxygen starved heterotrophic bacteria, enslaved and forced to produce nitrogen, and, and, we will be their gods once more! Hahahaha :wink:
Quote from: LuciferX on November 24, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
That does bring up another interesting thing though. Nitrogen, while unbreathable in the sense that our lungs don't use it, is necessary to make air breathable, and it's not exactly an abundant gas elsewhere. What do you think about getting about 78% N2 gas locally when we get to the colonization business?
Let's get the runoff from first greenhouses to create hypertrophic reservoirs that we feed to oxygen starved heterotrophic bacteria, enslaved and forced to produce nitrogen, and, and, we will be their gods once more! Hahahaha :wink:
Quote from: LuciferX on November 24, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight link=topic=35789.msg1312763#msg1312763 tbD
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http://www.webelements.com/nitrogen/history.html
http://chemistry.about.com/od/elementfacts/a/nitrogen.htm
https://www.sunysccc.edu/academic/mst/ptable/n.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen
Quote from: Doktor Blight on November 19, 2013, 06:46:32 AM
That does bring up another interesting thing though. Nitrogen, while unbreathable in the sense that our lungs don't use it, is necessary to make air breathable, and it's not exactly an abundant gas elsewhere. What do you think about getting about 78% N2 gas locally when we get to the colonization business?
Let's get the runoff from first greenhouses to create hypertrophic reservoirs that we feed to oxygen starved heterotrophic bacteria, enslaved and forced to produce nitrogen, and, and, we will be their gods once more! Hahahaha :wink: