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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 02:07:07 am

Title: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 02:07:07 am
I have to buy a new shipping computer. I'm going to try to spend less than $400. Any recommendations/advice?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 02:08:24 am
I have to buy a new shipping computer. I'm going to try to spend less than $400. Any recommendations/advice?

Cheap netbook ought to do it.

I mean, you can do all your printing using a USB port, right?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on June 21, 2011, 04:47:27 am
Hell I don't even need a usb port on mine.

It's just magically hooked up to my printer via the sky fairies magic air space router god doo dad.

these little netbooks are great for... stuff
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 04:50:35 am
Hell I don't even need a usb port on mine.

It's just magically hooked up to my printer via the sky fairies magic air space router god doo dad.

these little netbooks are great for... stuff

She's in Portland.  Wireless doesn't work there.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2011, 07:27:15 am
A Toshiba or Samsung Netbook with Windows 7 should be in your price range.  Both of those brands are, in my experience, robust enough that I've never needed to find out if their technical support is any good or not.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Rumckle on June 21, 2011, 09:47:05 am
I had to get the motherboard on my old toshiba replaced, they were pretty good about it, though they did forget to plug my wireless card back in. Then the same thing broke about a year later
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2011, 09:51:23 am
Ah, that sucks.

My Toshiba, which I'm typing on currently, is built like a brick, and as durable as one, and I've tended to hear good things from others about them. My two housemates both have Samsung netbooks with Windows 7, which seem to work just fine (and have for well over a year now) and my gaming laptop is a Samsung as well, and I'm impressed with it.

I would also suggest steering away from HP Compaq, as their design is not very strong.  My first laptop was a Compaq and the hinges started to go on it after two years, meaning I needed to hold up the screen with one hand while typing.  Much less than ideal.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Telarus on June 21, 2011, 10:07:17 am
Agreed. Figuring out which coded Model #'s in HP's laptop range are the good ones (won't over-heat, haven't been part of a parts re-call, etc, etc) is freaking difficult (I worked for them for 4 months as a tech, remember?)... I'd def avoid that right now. Desktop selection in HP is better, but not applicable.

What software would you be mostly running on it?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Cain on June 21, 2011, 10:15:08 am
Yeah, and if a tech-guy can't tell you which models are the good ones, the chances are there aren't any.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 21, 2011, 03:33:31 pm
I've been using the same Toshiba laptop since 2007 and it just died on me about a month ago after a 4 year span of having the ever-loving shit constantly abused out of it.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 06:52:30 pm
Hell I don't even need a usb port on mine.

It's just magically hooked up to my printer via the sky fairies magic air space router god doo dad.

these little netbooks are great for... stuff

She's in Portland.  Wireless doesn't work there.

True story, and I don't even know why.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 06:54:44 pm
I have to buy a new shipping computer. I'm going to try to spend less than $400. Any recommendations/advice?

Cheap netbook ought to do it.

I mean, you can do all your printing using a USB port, right?

As long as it can run Photoshop, yes.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 06:55:28 pm
I wasn't planning on getting a notebook, because I have a pretty nice monitor and keyboard, and the shipping computer has no need of being mobile.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Triple Zero on June 21, 2011, 08:54:21 pm
if you already got the monitor etc, you should probably be able to get a decent desktop machine for that price as well. it'll even be slightly more powerful (which is nice if you're running Photoshop).

except I can't really give more advice than just that. not very windows-savvy anymore, and I've never really been very computer hardware savvy at all ever, let alone familiar with the market in the USA.

I hear newegg is a good website for getting computar electronics in the USA? (but then, probably get a second opinion on that because really I have no experience with it)
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 09:33:17 pm
I was hoping that might still be the case.

At this point, I am unaware of even the most basic things, like what kind of processors and how much RAM I should look for as a minimum. Kinda starting from scratch.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: trix on June 21, 2011, 10:21:12 pm
I've had some good experiences with newegg.com (as Triple Zero mentioned), but if you aren't comfortable putting together your own PC, perhaps getting a cheap Dell or something, with a warranty in case something goes wrong, but be worth the extra little $$ it will cost.

As for specs to look for, if printing and Photoshop are your primary concern, and you don't care about gaming or video editing, pretty much anything cheap and new would work great.  I'd go with 2 GB's of ram, in one stick if possible to be future proof (easy to add more), a 250GB hard drive (should be like $50), and any modern processor that fits on the motherboard.  For graphics, I'd stick with OnBoard (built in to motherboard) video, but make sure the motherboard has a pci-express x16 port (most of them should) in case you want a dedicated card in the future.

That said, photoshop isn't that intense, anything relatively modern should work great.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 11:37:44 pm
That was spectacularly unhelpful.

Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2011, 11:38:07 pm
Here, I'll just post my own advice:

"Just buy a new computer. Any will do".
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 11:42:39 pm
That was spectacularly unhelpful.



You know, you may have a bad attitude.  You should try to be nicer.  Like me.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: trix on June 21, 2011, 11:47:09 pm
That was spectacularly unhelpful.

I am operating with no knowledge of how much you know about computers.  Thus, I posted specific ranges of memory that might be good for your usage scenario (Photoshop, internet, not much else), corroborated Trip's hearsay about newegg, and, just in case the specific information was too technical to make sense of, included the general recommendation that anything new you will buy, no matter how cheap, will work for what you need.  Used, however, is another story.

Exactly what kind of help are you looking for that I seem to have missed?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2011, 11:48:53 pm
That was spectacularly unhelpful.

I am operating with no knowledge of how much you know about computers.  Thus, I posted specific ranges of memory that might be good for your usage scenario (Photoshop, internet, not much else), corroborated Trip's hearsay about newegg, and, just in case the specific information was too technical to make sense of, included the general recommendation that anything new you will buy, no matter how cheap, will work for what you need.  Used, however, is another story.

Exactly what kind of help are you looking for that I seem to have missed?

I think she may have been looking for a brand & model for less than $400.

But it's hard to tell.  Nigel is mercurial, and prone to mayhem.  She once beat the fuck out of a fat guy, because he stuck his finger in her ear at a bar.

And that's kind of hot.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: trix on June 21, 2011, 11:50:32 pm
That was spectacularly unhelpful.

I am operating with no knowledge of how much you know about computers.  Thus, I posted specific ranges of memory that might be good for your usage scenario (Photoshop, internet, not much else), corroborated Trip's hearsay about newegg, and, just in case the specific information was too technical to make sense of, included the general recommendation that anything new you will buy, no matter how cheap, will work for what you need.  Used, however, is another story.

Exactly what kind of help are you looking for that I seem to have missed?

I think she may have been looking for a brand & model for less than $400.

But it's hard to tell.  Nigel is mercurial, and prone to mayhem.  She once beat the fuck out of a fat guy, because he stuck his finger in her ear at a bar.

And that's kind of hot.

Ah, well used, if you aren't scared of ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Optiplex-GX520-Desktop-Computer-PC-Refurbished-/230617646558?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item35b1e205de

Only an 80GB hard drive though, but hard drives are very cheap.  I just bought a 250GB laptop drive for $50.

I'd offer more options, but I'm late for Math, will return later.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Luna on June 21, 2011, 11:57:41 pm
Nigel is mercurial, and prone to mayhem.  She once beat the fuck out of a fat guy, because he stuck his finger in her ear at a bar.

And that's kind of hot.

I still say she let the fucker off easy.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Salty on June 22, 2011, 12:19:29 am
Nigel is mercurial, and prone to mayhem.  She once beat the fuck out of a fat guy, because he stuck his finger in her ear at a bar.

And that's kind of hot.

I still say she let the fucker off easy.

Yeah, unlike that one noob who recommend Linux to her. He sat refreshing the page for her response an when it loaded his eyes rolled into the back of his head and vibrated so hard they liquified.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Sita on June 22, 2011, 12:26:18 am
Here, I'll just post my own advice:

"Just buy a new computer. Any will do".

Pretty much this, actually. If you aren't into gaming with the machine you don't need top line.
Make sure it has at least 3GB memory, because anything less than that will slow you down. And if you are doing any video (not sure if it's the same for just graphics) then don't have an on board video card if possible.

As to brands, I'm not sure really anymore. My laptop's an Acer, only problems I've had with it is due to age (it's close to 6 years old)
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 22, 2011, 12:27:31 am
That was spectacularly unhelpful.



You know, you may have a bad attitude.  You should try to be nicer.  Like me.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: bds on June 22, 2011, 12:30:05 am
If you already have a spare monitor, something like this would be excellent, and the hardware isn't going to be outdated any time soon: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103369

some other stuff to look out for if you spend some time browsing newegg or other manufacturer sites (HP, Dell, Acer, blahblah)

processor - for $400 you could get an Intel Core i3 - these are the lowest model of the current next gen Intel cores, and are relatively awesome - you get a big bump in performance vs. the older dual cores and so the hardware's gunna last you a while.
- otherwise, a fairly standard Core2Duo dual core (anything that runs over 2ghz ought to run fine)
- the AMD cores tend to come in a little cheaper than Intel stuff (but you do take a performance hit usually) - look out for Athlon 2s maybe

RAM - again, for $400 you can get 4gb ddr3, like in the link I posted above
- there's really not a lot of reason NOT to go with 4gb ddr3, unless you're getting a great deal on 2gb and plan on buying some more sticks, bumping 2gb to 4gb RAM just helps keep the system running quicker, especially if you're gunna be opening a few slightly hefty photoshop documents

everything else - i wouldn't worry about getting a video card, unless you're planning on editing video or gaming
- I wouldn't expect hard drive space to be an issue - you might be able to pick up 1tb like in the link above, but don't let that be the dealbreaker, anything above 250gb will be fine, and if you need to expand you can grab 1tb drives for about 50 bucks now anyway


hope that all helps!
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: ͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅ ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on June 22, 2011, 12:36:03 am
What version of Photoshop?

Do you have any interest in building it yourself?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2011, 12:42:41 am
Get netbook for < $300.

Plug old monitor into it.

Plug old keyboard into it.

Wireless mouse ~ $16.

Boom.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2011, 12:44:04 am
That was spectacularly unhelpful.



You know, you may have a bad attitude.  You should try to be nicer.  Like me.

 :lulz:

What?  I am but a humble country Doktor.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 22, 2011, 01:12:10 am
That was spectacularly unhelpful.

I am operating with no knowledge of how much you know about computers.  Thus, I posted specific ranges of memory that might be good for your usage scenario (Photoshop, internet, not much else), corroborated Trip's hearsay about newegg, and, just in case the specific information was too technical to make sense of, included the general recommendation that anything new you will buy, no matter how cheap, will work for what you need.  Used, however, is another story.

Exactly what kind of help are you looking for that I seem to have missed?

I think she may have been looking for a brand & model for less than $400.

But it's hard to tell.  Nigel is mercurial, and prone to mayhem.  She once beat the fuck out of a fat guy, because he stuck his finger in her ear at a bar.

And that's kind of hot.

That guy. OMG.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 22, 2011, 01:12:46 am
If you already have a spare monitor, something like this would be excellent, and the hardware isn't going to be outdated any time soon: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103369

some other stuff to look out for if you spend some time browsing newegg or other manufacturer sites (HP, Dell, Acer, blahblah)

processor - for $400 you could get an Intel Core i3 - these are the lowest model of the current next gen Intel cores, and are relatively awesome - you get a big bump in performance vs. the older dual cores and so the hardware's gunna last you a while.
- otherwise, a fairly standard Core2Duo dual core (anything that runs over 2ghz ought to run fine)
- the AMD cores tend to come in a little cheaper than Intel stuff (but you do take a performance hit usually) - look out for Athlon 2s maybe

RAM - again, for $400 you can get 4gb ddr3, like in the link I posted above
- there's really not a lot of reason NOT to go with 4gb ddr3, unless you're getting a great deal on 2gb and plan on buying some more sticks, bumping 2gb to 4gb RAM just helps keep the system running quicker, especially if you're gunna be opening a few slightly hefty photoshop documents

everything else - i wouldn't worry about getting a video card, unless you're planning on editing video or gaming
- I wouldn't expect hard drive space to be an issue - you might be able to pick up 1tb like in the link above, but don't let that be the dealbreaker, anything above 250gb will be fine, and if you need to expand you can grab 1tb drives for about 50 bucks now anyway


hope that all helps!

THANK YEWWWW!!! That was very helpful.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 22, 2011, 01:13:57 am
What version of Photoshop?

Do you have any interest in building it yourself?

I need to get a new version, actually. And no, less than zero interest in building it, not because I can't but because I don't have time.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 22, 2011, 01:15:02 am
That was spectacularly unhelpful.

I am operating with no knowledge of how much you know about computers.  Thus, I posted specific ranges of memory that might be good for your usage scenario (Photoshop, internet, not much else), corroborated Trip's hearsay about newegg, and, just in case the specific information was too technical to make sense of, included the general recommendation that anything new you will buy, no matter how cheap, will work for what you need.  Used, however, is another story.

Exactly what kind of help are you looking for that I seem to have missed?

I think she may have been looking for a brand & model for less than $400.

But it's hard to tell.  Nigel is mercurial, and prone to mayhem.  She once beat the fuck out of a fat guy, because he stuck his finger in her ear at a bar.

And that's kind of hot.

That guy. OMG.

That's a PD legend, just like TGRR getting his tongue stuck in the printer, and Enrico getting arrested by Interpol on obscenity charges.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: trix on June 22, 2011, 02:17:18 am
Get netbook for < $300.

Plug old monitor into it.

Plug old keyboard into it.

Wireless mouse ~ $16.

Boom.

At first I was like  :?  but then after some thought, that's actually a pretty good idea.  Enough power to do what you need (depending on how complicated of things you do in Photoshop), and the added benefit of being able to pick it up and take off with it, if the need ever arises.

I do that with my Pandora (http://openpandora.org), so I have basically a full computer at home with regular keyboard/mouse/monitor, and when I leave I just unplug the fucker, stick it in my pocket, and still have all my stuff with me.  With added benefit of great portable gaming controls.

I suspect pretty soon computing in general will be something like this.  Give technology enough time to miniaturize more and more, and pretty soon the computer itself will be in our wallet or pocket, and our computer desk will just hold the peripherals to dock with when we get home.  Especially with the promise offered by the ARM platform of processors.  If anyone is into that sort of thing, the coming SoC from TI is definitely boner-inspiring for the nerdier among us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIC5DHHAfWA

 - trix
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Cain on June 22, 2011, 10:03:04 am
I was hoping that might still be the case.

At this point, I am unaware of even the most basic things, like what kind of processors and how much RAM I should look for as a minimum. Kinda starting from scratch.

I'd say 2 gig ram, minimum, and 2.20 ghz processor.  That should be within your price range, though if you can get higher without breaking the budget, certainly go for it.

One of my laptops has one gig and 1.6 ghz and it's not enough.  Admittedly, it running on Vista doesn't help, but it occasionally suffers massive slowdowns when running more than a few key programs at the same time.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: LMNO on June 22, 2011, 01:14:32 pm
My suggestion:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pavilion+Slimline+Desktop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Pentium%26%23174%3B+Processor+/+3GB+Memory+/+750GB+Hard+Drive/2712048.p?id=1218346638857&skuId=2712048

Plus This:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+Expansion+1TB+External+USB+2.0+Desktop+Hard+Drive+-+Black/9238121.p?id=1218065495073&skuId=9238121

That should be just about $400, and will do what you need it to.

Plus, you can probably find these cheaper at some place other than Best Buy.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 22, 2011, 05:42:28 pm
Thanks guys! Thread made a quick recovery; turned helpful. :)
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Telarus on June 23, 2011, 02:44:32 am
My suggestion:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pavilion+Slimline+Desktop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Pentium%26%23174%3B+Processor+/+3GB+Memory+/+750GB+Hard+Drive/2712048.p?id=1218346638857&skuId=2712048

Plus This:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+Expansion+1TB+External+USB+2.0+Desktop+Hard+Drive+-+Black/9238121.p?id=1218065495073&skuId=9238121

That should be just about $400, and will do what you need it to.

Plus, you can probably find these cheaper at some place other than Best Buy.

Y'know, that's one of the more decent, cheap Pavilions. It's 64-bit, which means it has the capacity to go all the way up to 16+Gb of Ram if you need it to. The problem with the slim-line cases is that everything is very cramped, so replacing parts is tricky (and sometimes you have to find parts that are 'slim' style to fit in such cases). But for the costs, it's pretty good.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2011, 03:04:06 am
My suggestion:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Pavilion+Slimline+Desktop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Pentium%26%23174%3B+Processor+/+3GB+Memory+/+750GB+Hard+Drive/2712048.p?id=1218346638857&skuId=2712048

Plus This:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+Expansion+1TB+External+USB+2.0+Desktop+Hard+Drive+-+Black/9238121.p?id=1218065495073&skuId=9238121

That should be just about $400, and will do what you need it to.

Plus, you can probably find these cheaper at some place other than Best Buy.

Y'know, that's one of the more decent, cheap Pavilions. It's 64-bit, which means it has the capacity to go all the way up to 16+Gb of Ram if you need it to. The problem with the slim-line cases is that everything is very cramped, so replacing parts is tricky (and sometimes you have to find parts that are 'slim' style to fit in such cases). But for the costs, it's pretty good.

I found a refurbished Asus that I think I'm gonna get if sales continue being strong.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Telarus on June 23, 2011, 03:34:46 am
Right on, a good refurbish will get you better hardware at a comparable price.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Luna on June 23, 2011, 03:39:01 am
Right on, a good refurbish will get you better hardware at a comparable price.

Truth.  I have a refurbished Dell for my gaming machine.  The video card shat the bed, however, it's a common problem with that card, not the fact that it was a refurb, and, since I got it directly from Dell at their refurbish site, it was still under warrentee, so cost me zero to fix.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Captain Swampass on June 23, 2011, 05:21:28 am
Asus is a wonderful, tragically unknown company. Their motherboards and other important components are all built by themselves, not that awful Foxconn. And the factory is named Pegatron! And that is just awesome. But yeah, a refurbished Asus would do you well provided the components weren't garbage, as photoshop can be slightly demanding at times. Also, building a computer (If everything works from the box) might take an hour at the most. That is generally always the best idea, as you can make sure you aren't getting ripped off. However, if you're hellbent on not building a computer you should look for something with these components.

CPU: Athlon 64 dual core, Phenom IIs, Athlon IIs, Core i3/i5s, second gen core i3/i5s, core2quad/core2duo. Any of these at any clock rate will work fine. Shit to avoid, single cores. Oh, regarding Intel vs AMD. AMD will always be cheaper and will always be sufficiently powerful. Intel dominates the high end, but for the average consumer AMD is generally the best bet. For well under 30% of the price you get a performance difference of 10%, you can get decent high clock quad cores from AMD for under 90 dollars now.

RAM: 2-4gb of DDR2/3 will be fine. Unless you're editing 6000x7000 pictures, 2-4gb is fine. Most people think that RAM directly correlates to the speed of the computer, but that is simply incorrect. If you're not using RAM, it is wasted. So having 16gb is just... silly.

Hard Drive/HDD: As big as you need. Seriously. HOWEVER, between the CPU and HDD, those are the biggest factors in the computers general speed. Do not get a piece of shit that whirls at 5400RPM, anything over that is fine.

GPU/Graphics: Staggeringly irrelevant for your needs, integrated GPUs will work fine.

So, if that refurbished Asus fits that nicely, buy the shit out of that thing!
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2011, 06:30:44 am
The beads I'm making/selling right now earn me @ $200/hour and when I'm not torching I'm doing shipping/pics/listing/promotion, it makes absolutely zero sense for me to save $50 or whatever by spending an hour building my own computer. That shit is for people who aren't self-employed. After the last absolutely fucked year and a half I need to ride this wave as hard as I can and try to get caught up before September because I sure as fuck won't have time for it then. The Asus looks like a fantastic deal for me, I just hope they still have one when I'm caught up enough to buy it.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 23, 2011, 05:01:06 pm
how I initially read this post:

I found a refurbished Anus that I think I'm gonna get if sales continue being strong.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Captain Swampass on June 23, 2011, 06:56:17 pm
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2011, 07:08:03 pm
how I initially read this post:

I found a refurbished Anus that I think I'm gonna get if sales continue being strong.

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 23, 2011, 07:08:39 pm
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?

They fucking sold out. :(

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D2EBH4/ref=ord_cart_shr
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Captain Swampass on June 23, 2011, 07:16:55 pm
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?

They fucking sold out. :(

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D2EBH4/ref=ord_cart_shr

Shit! That would've worked extremely well. Though, hm, after dicking around newegg.com for a moment I think this should do what you need it do rather admirably.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108457

If you don't live in the states; fuck.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Luna on June 23, 2011, 11:49:43 pm
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?

They fucking sold out. :(

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D2EBH4/ref=ord_cart_shr

Try here:

http://www.dell.com/outlet/

I got one of their gaming laptops.  Only problem I've had was the video card going wonky, which was, apparently, an issue that the particular model just HAS.  I got the extended warrentee, which took me months to go look up because I'm an idiot, and the sent a tech to my house with a big box of parts to fix, for free.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Cain on June 24, 2011, 07:05:26 am
Dell are overpriced and with crap customer service, though.  And by crap customer service, I mean actively ripping off their customers.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 24, 2011, 07:20:51 am
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?

They fucking sold out. :(

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D2EBH4/ref=ord_cart_shr

Shit! That would've worked extremely well. Though, hm, after dicking around newegg.com for a moment I think this should do what you need it do rather admirably.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108457

If you don't live in the states; fuck.

That one looks all right. I might keep an eye on Amazon and see if they get any more Asus refurbs though, if I can buy any time by reinstalling Windows on my current computer.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Eater of Clowns on June 24, 2011, 01:56:23 pm
Dell are overpriced and with crap customer service, though.  And by crap customer service, I mean actively ripping off their customers.

I hate Dell because I bought one of their Inspiron laptops that would overheat and burn out the fan.  The tech's solution?  Keep getting the fan replaced every few months or buy a cooling pad or, well, what I did, which is prop it up on stacks of pennies held together by tape.

For six years that laptop stayed propped up stacks of pennies.  It was a 36 cent fix.  I gave it to my mother when I built the beast I'm on now, and as far as I know it's still working.

So while that device did convince me homebrew was the way to go, I'm also convinced that it doesn't really matter what kind of PC you buy.  If you treat it well, it'll do its job and last as long as you need.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Captain Swampass on June 24, 2011, 05:05:27 pm
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?

They fucking sold out. :(

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D2EBH4/ref=ord_cart_shr

Shit! That would've worked extremely well. Though, hm, after dicking around newegg.com for a moment I think this should do what you need it do rather admirably.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108457

If you don't live in the states; fuck.

That one looks all right. I might keep an eye on Amazon and see if they get any more Asus refurbs though, if I can buy any time by reinstalling Windows on my current computer.


That generally makes machines feel like new. Windows kind of inevitably and inexplicably gets shitty after years and years. No idea why; must be the little gremlins.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 24, 2011, 05:47:14 pm
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?

They fucking sold out. :(

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D2EBH4/ref=ord_cart_shr

Shit! That would've worked extremely well. Though, hm, after dicking around newegg.com for a moment I think this should do what you need it do rather admirably.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108457

If you don't live in the states; fuck.

That one looks all right. I might keep an eye on Amazon and see if they get any more Asus refurbs though, if I can buy any time by reinstalling Windows on my current computer.


That generally makes machines feel like new. Windows kind of inevitably and inexplicably gets shitty after years and years. No idea why; must be the little gremlins.

It didn't do shit.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Captain Swampass on June 24, 2011, 07:21:22 pm
Ah, yeah, then that makes sense. So what are the specifications of said refurbished Asus?

They fucking sold out. :(

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004D2EBH4/ref=ord_cart_shr

Shit! That would've worked extremely well. Though, hm, after dicking around newegg.com for a moment I think this should do what you need it do rather admirably.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108457

If you don't live in the states; fuck.

That one looks all right. I might keep an eye on Amazon and see if they get any more Asus refurbs though, if I can buy any time by reinstalling Windows on my current computer.


That generally makes machines feel like new. Windows kind of inevitably and inexplicably gets shitty after years and years. No idea why; must be the little gremlins.

It didn't do shit.

Whats wrong with it exactly?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 24, 2011, 07:38:07 pm
Hangs and lags during file renaming, slow windows refresh. Interestingly, Photoshop still runs fine; it's Windows Explorer that's being a bitch. Unfortunately, I have to do a lot of file management.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Captain Swampass on June 24, 2011, 07:44:40 pm
Hangs and lags during file renaming, slow windows refresh. Interestingly, Photoshop still runs fine; it's Windows Explorer that's being a bitch. Unfortunately, I have to do a lot of file management.

Huh. Sounds like a hard drive issue of some sort.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 24, 2011, 08:37:24 pm
I want to make it totally clear that, per the OP,  I am not really looking to fix my 6-year-old Compaq Presario. It was already a piece of shit when I bought it new. It makes no sense to put any resources at all into it; I am going to replace it.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2011, 08:41:14 pm
I want to make it totally clear that, per the OP,  I am not really looking to fix my 6-year-old Compaq Presario. It was already a piece of shit when I bought it new. It makes no sense to put any resources at all into it; I am going to replace it.

Serious:  Keep the keyboard & the monitor, pick up a cheap netbook, and plug them into it.

All the power of a proper computer, no tiny screen or 1/4" keys.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 24, 2011, 08:48:49 pm
I want to make it totally clear that, per the OP,  I am not really looking to fix my 6-year-old Compaq Presario. It was already a piece of shit when I bought it new. It makes no sense to put any resources at all into it; I am going to replace it.

Serious:  Keep the keyboard & the monitor, pick up a cheap netbook, and plug them into it.

All the power of a proper computer, no tiny screen or 1/4" keys.

Too small hard drive, not enough RAM, not enough USB ports. Plus, the kids can't steal a desktop.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Bruno on June 24, 2011, 10:47:16 pm
I have to buy a new shipping computer. I'm going to try to spend less than $400. Any recommendations/advice?

Do you have a copy of Windows you can put on it?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 25, 2011, 12:11:33 am
I have to buy a new shipping computer. I'm going to try to spend less than $400. Any recommendations/advice?

Do you have a copy of Windows you can put on it?

 :lulz: What?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Bruno on June 25, 2011, 12:19:51 am
Does your new computer need to have windows already installed, or do you have an installation CD or some thang you can use to get the Windows to be on your computer with?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 25, 2011, 01:17:23 am
Does your new computer need to have windows already installed, or do you have an installation CD or some thang you can use to get the Windows to be on your computer with?

I have a Windows CD, but most new computers already have it installed.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Bruno on June 25, 2011, 01:52:51 am
Does your new computer need to have windows already installed, or do you have an installation CD or some thang you can use to get the Windows to be on your computer with?

I have a Windows CD, but most new computers already have it installed.

It's just something you can save a few bucks on if you already have it.

If your CD isn't 64 bit Windows 7, you're probably better off getting a computer with it already installed.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 25, 2011, 01:59:49 am
Does your new computer need to have windows already installed, or do you have an installation CD or some thang you can use to get the Windows to be on your computer with?

I have a Windows CD, but most new computers already have it installed.

It's just something you can save a few bucks on if you already have it.

If your CD isn't 64 bit Windows 7, you're probably better off getting a computer with it already installed.

Yeah, it's XP, and finding a cheap computer that doesn't have Windows installed is a challenge. Amazon has the Asus refurbs back in, I'm getting one of those.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Bruno on June 25, 2011, 02:14:29 am
That looks like a pretty good deal.

Also, I'M A HUGE FAN OF ASUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjhbCYQketY
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 25, 2011, 02:16:23 am
That looks like a pretty good deal.

Also, I'M A HUGE FAN OF ASUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjhbCYQketY

 :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Triple Zero on June 25, 2011, 12:36:12 pm
Regardless of if/when you get a new computer, if I understand correctly a lot of the work involves renaming files. In that case you might want to take a look at Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/). It's a file manager that includes a very useful interactive multi-rename tool, allowing you to rename multiple files at once, if the renaming task has patterns in it (like a search/replace for filenames, sort of).

Total Command is a littlebit like a Windows version of the oldskool DOS program Norton Commander, in case you remember that one.

It's also shareware, of the type that has a "nag screen" reminder when you start it. There's also a freeware version of it called Free Commander (http://www.freecommander.com/), but I've never used that one so I can't vouch for how good it is. Total Commander is pretty damn sweet, though.

If you google for "multi rename tool", or something, there are also many other solutions that can greatly speed up the task of renaming many different files in a particular fashion.

[and one other thing, sorry if this is obvious and you already know it, but if you have selected a file in Explorer, pressing F2 is the keyboard shortcut to rename it so you don't have to rightclick etc the mouse]
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Cain on June 25, 2011, 05:34:43 pm
I want to make it totally clear that, per the OP,  I am not really looking to fix my 6-year-old Compaq Presario. It was already a piece of shit when I bought it new. It makes no sense to put any resources at all into it; I am going to replace it.

Heh, I had one of those.  They were a bit shitty, weren't they?  Bad positioning for the fans, as well.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 25, 2011, 05:48:26 pm
Regardless of if/when you get a new computer, if I understand correctly a lot of the work involves renaming files. In that case you might want to take a look at Total Commander (http://www.ghisler.com/). It's a file manager that includes a very useful interactive multi-rename tool, allowing you to rename multiple files at once, if the renaming task has patterns in it (like a search/replace for filenames, sort of).

Total Command is a littlebit like a Windows version of the oldskool DOS program Norton Commander, in case you remember that one.

It's also shareware, of the type that has a "nag screen" reminder when you start it. There's also a freeware version of it called Free Commander (http://www.freecommander.com/), but I've never used that one so I can't vouch for how good it is. Total Commander is pretty damn sweet, though.

If you google for "multi rename tool", or something, there are also many other solutions that can greatly speed up the task of renaming many different files in a particular fashion.

[and one other thing, sorry if this is obvious and you already know it, but if you have selected a file in Explorer, pressing F2 is the keyboard shortcut to rename it so you don't have to rightclick etc the mouse]

Actually, one of the few things I really like about Windows Explorer is the file management utility; Since I have to vet my images and select which ones I want to keep/rename, and have them numbered in a specific order, it serves my needs exactly perfectly, and is also almost identical to the way Mac USED to manage files before OSX: I'm still irritated with Apple for changing it.

On a fast computer I can vet/rename a couple hundred pictures in groups of four in half an hour. With the lagfuckingbullshit currently going on, it's been taking me hours. It's fucked. I just ordered my new computer and it'll be here Tuesday.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 25, 2011, 05:53:18 pm
I want to make it totally clear that, per the OP,  I am not really looking to fix my 6-year-old Compaq Presario. It was already a piece of shit when I bought it new. It makes no sense to put any resources at all into it; I am going to replace it.

Heh, I had one of those.  They were a bit shitty, weren't they?  Bad positioning for the fans, as well.

HORRIBLE positioning! I've already replaced both the hard drive and the fan on this once. I probably will eventually put a new hard drive in it and give it to one of the kids, but right now if I'm going to spend a bunch of time re-installing software I'd like it to be on a new computer.
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: hirley0 on June 25, 2011, 07:57:15 pm
2:12 PM -:40
shI had 0 Office depeo had 2 1ea 1gx1g & #2 2g x 2g $400
they both had Win7 and no CD ? the teller said U make your own
they also said for a fee they fix Em Twice for free 3rd time =OUT




i'LL be at shirl'$  in less than 1/2 hour SW Alder Rite Aid Side but 1 block UP (InkWell)
20110625 11:01:17 AM ? June 20, 2011, 05:07:07 PM = less than 1 week

She's in Portland.  Wireless doesn't work there.
Mine works fairly weLL eXcept Portland
is the Main Port of entry in the ReaL war
and as such there is A LOT of UsE-R s'$ERs
spent on Drop Carrier & Reduced speeed
ESPecially if Timing is involved Like
12:17 PM 2011 06/25 True story, and I don't even know why.
Ms.#10 on: June 21, 2011, 09:52:30 AM {get my point
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run Photoshop {{ hmmm: | another dropped carrier 12:21
What version of Photoshop? #27 on: June 21,
Get netbook for < $300. : thats what i paid 5 years ago
:
I'd say 2 gig ram, minimum, and 2.20 ghz processor. {{{hmmm
Windows kind of inevitably and inexplicably gets shitty after years
YEAH: thats why I reboot ever 30 day Like it or not
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fix my 6-year-old Compaq Presario
yeah: i've pX IT TAKES 1 DAY TO format & ReHoot
Do you have a copy of Windows you can put on it? Jerry_Frankster
Unicornian Anarchist || yeah maybe 2 HE & pdX



12:11PM I'm going to try to spend less than $400.  not now i'LL talk to shirley about 1:
20110625 11:01:17 AM ? June 20, 2011, 05:07:07 PM = less than 1 week not bad 4M
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Title: Re: Hey Window+avvy people
Post by: hirley0 on June 26, 2011, 01:41:46 am
5:40 to read this yellow click and drage over to HiLight

 Volume in drive D is KP Directory of D:\1106
2011 06/05  06:45 AM 653,311 a.txt it begins after a xP install
2011 06/05  07:07 AM 708,435 b.txt i then add my Belkins wifi drivers
2011 06/05  07:22 AM 712,049 c.txt a camera driver
2011 06/05  07:28 AM 738,238 c2.txt that has a copy of adobe reader
2011 06/05  07:37 AM 753,399 d.txt the a second camera driver as i'v 2
2011 06/05  08:00 AM 849,864 e.txt  Last time i upgraded IE to ver 7
2011 06/05  08:14 AM 874,606 f.txt  to which i add my favorites links
2011 06/06  09:21 AM 918,634 f2a.txt did a Flash install
2011 06/05  10:30 PM 890,063 fla.txt found a revised version
2011 06/15  07:50 PM 1,079,273 xpd.txt then switched browsers to FireFox
2011 06/25  03:32 PM 1,065,444 NOW-0625.TXT
2011 06/25  03:33 PM       0 now
    12 File(s)      9,243,316 bytes
     2 Dir(s)  17,629,888,512 bytes free
My point is i want Less Not More so what do i try to remove
I mean delete  Let me Look Directory of D:\WINDOWS
Now what i'LL try is remove 1 dir at a time to C: and see ?
starting from the bottom of the list and work my way UP
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          system32
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          system
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          repair
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Help coudn't
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Config empty ?
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          msagent can't
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Cursors
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Media . recycle
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          java ?
2011 06/05  01:37 AM    <DIR>          Web
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          addins empty
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Connection Wizard  empty
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Driver Cache :ah ha ?later
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          security
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Temp     Empty=OK
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          twain_32
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          msapps > recycle
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          AppPatch cant
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Debug
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Resources
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Provisioning did not try
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          mui can't
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          WinSxS denighed
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          ime cannot delete appelL
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          pchealth access denighed
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          PeerNet { cannot delete
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          ehome   1 dll > C:\new & recycle

2011 06/25  03:32 PM         1,065,444 NOW-0625.TXT
2011 06/25  04:35 PM         1,064,361 now4pm    -1.1k is not what im after
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          Media . recycle
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          msapps > recycle
2011 06/04  11:23 PM    <DIR>          ehome   1 dll > C:\new & recycle
?
it does appear to me I made no progesss in REMovaL of UNwanted'$
HELP & Drivers seam to me to be the most reasonable place to hunt & peck

SO WHAT did i do? sent "autorecover" to recycle | gotta start somewhere
 Directory of D:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\AutoRecover
Title: Re: Hey Wavvy p
Post by: hirley0 on June 26, 2011, 12:46:08 pm
5:41ap the CONcept is not to add but to subtract see BAT next
4:56 pdT notice UNnecessary duplication of 90% of .drv'$ Y not reMov 3:56
D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SYSTEM.DRV
  D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTEM.DRV
3:49a Board(Read 596 times) bottom up ^ even odd minutes & .drv'$ 03:49:07
20110626 beyond recover on to dropped carrier & notes to self
Title: BAT Wind ows
Post by: hirley0 on June 26, 2011, 02:00:14 pm
1 bat some dll'$

DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MMSYSTEM.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\AVICAP.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\AVIFILE.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\COMMDLG.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LZEXPAND.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSVIDEO.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\OLECLI.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\OLESVR.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHELL.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\TAPI.DLL
DEL D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VER.DLL


2bat some drv'$

del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WINSPOOL.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KEYBOARD.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIAVI.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCISEQ.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MCIWAVE.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MOUSE.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SOUND.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTEM.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\TIMER.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VGA.DRV
del D:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WFWNET.DRV


beCause they aRe duplicated in $ystem & $ystem32
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: bds on June 26, 2011, 02:06:25 pm
:lulz: YOU DELETE THAT SYS32 VIRUS HIRLEY! STICK IT TO THE MAN!
Title: Re: BAT Wind ows
Post by: hirley0 on June 26, 2011, 02:10:09 pm
Jive (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27356.0)4Math
Jump (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=29357.0)2Summer
The Main idea is to del the HARD DRIVE by MOVing the $Y$ to a 4gig Jump (really SmaLL) <$20


1 bat some d0ll'$

if U go to a CAM store U can see easily that THEY (Cam P'$) are at 4g
while OD is UP to 32 ?/? but 4 should be more than enough to ju Yr HD

the main reason to DO IT is due to the FACTtotem of Low LeveL
THE AREA of hard drives WHERE U have no real access the
sectors that control U not the sectors U control so Just J it.

once the OS is ON J the rest should be a SNAP cause U just turn on / plug in / & Jump
Title: Re: Ahead StANDaRdS
Post by: hirley0 on June 27, 2011, 01:13:25 am
top down
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine  NExT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language) 4:24B
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computing%29#Microkernels 4:34b
10:30pmB aLLRight might as well begin somewhere i've a boot floppy Lemme see?

xp boot flooopy disk including HiDen
1998 05/11  08:01 PM            93,880 COMMAND.COM   win 98

 Directory of A:\

2011 02/03  10:56 PM            18,355 L.COM
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            58,870 EGA2.CPI
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            58,753 EGA3.CPI
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            58,870 EGA.CPI
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            21,607 KEYB.COM
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            34,566 KEYBOARD.SYS
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            31,942 KEYBRD2.SYS
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            31,633 KEYBRD3.SYS
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            13,014 KEYBRD4.SYS
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            29,239 MODE.COM
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            93,040 COMMAND.COM
     Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
2000 06/08  05:00 PM            17,175 DISPLAY.SYS
2007 09/19  01:02 PM                 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT
2007 09/19  01:02 PM                 0 CONFIG.SYS
2011 06/26  11:36 PM                 0 drxp.txt
              15 File(s)        467,064 bytes
               0 Dir(s)         854,016 bytes free

note to self msdos.sys & io.sys not shown due to SHR attrib'$

Title: Re: Hey Wi
Post by: hirley0 on June 27, 2011, 08:18:51 am
read bottom UP

 Volume in drive G is GRUMPY
 Volume Serial Number is 36AB-5AD8

 Directory of G:\

2004 08/04  12:00 PM            50,620 COMMAND.COM
2011 06/27  09:07 AM                 0 gru.txt
               2 File(s)         50,620 bytes
               0 Dir(s)   2,003,075,072 bytes free
sO it goes the lime green(93.04) version was not Xp50
thUS i'z at a long stop | a. cant copy pagefile.sys or hiberfil sys to GRUMPY
AS BOTH are system hidden and attrib REfuses to convert them to mine
alSO the main hidden directories that must cause so much trouble
are the system...../restore that fills with entry after entry HARD to reMOVe

step 1 copy boot files to G (UMP) drive
 Volume in drive G has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is 36AB-5AD8

 Directory of G:\

2000 06/08  05:00 PM            93,040 COMMAND.COM
2001 05/15  06:57 PM           116,736 IO.SYS
2001 04/07  01:40 PM                 9 MSDOS.SYS
               3 File(s)        209,785 bytes
               0 Dir(s)   2,002,911,232 bytes free


step 2 & 3 see if i can label & number G {it has been years ?/?
yeah ? no i could not access GRUMPY from debug as it calls it HARD drive = not allowed(XP)
&i CANNOT get a driver installed in win98 to read/W the USB ? though i did try SOMe
Title: Top Down
Post by: hirley0 on June 27, 2011, 06:45:39 pm
1993 09/30  06:20 AM 54,619 COMMAND.COM {6.20
1994 05/31  06:22 AM 54,645 COMMAND.COM {95
1997 09/28  08:05 AM 1,190,343 DOS622_1.EXE {yes.ivii
 {{ ALLTHOUGH its not loaded ??,{622

Windows 98 [Version 4.10.1998] A:
Windows 98 [Version 4.10.1998] c:
1998 05/11  08:01 PM 93,880 COMMAND.COM {98
Windows Millennium [Version 4.90.3000]
2000 06/08  05:00 PM 93,040 COMMAND.CO  {ME
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
2004 08/04  12:00 PM 50,620 command.com {XP


of course i have no idea if any HAVE any classY chassY value
my guess: the '97s MaY

5:12 / 6/28   it turns out that 6.22 WILL NOT find Cof4.10 {sad
thus i'z at 93.88 i'poise just a sec: currentLy D: 5.1.2600 XP later for C?
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Bruno on June 27, 2011, 08:02:40 pm
10 PRINT "DURRRRRR HURRRRRRR!!!";
20 GOTO 10
Title: bORROM up WEEK ?
Post by: hirley0 on June 28, 2011, 01:21:22 pm
Wed 12pt Lime green d'Fault 0:50B  dentist yesterday 11
Reply #82 on: Yesterday at 11:02:40 AM 4:20 B
Title: ENFORCED STUPIDITY
Post by: hirley0 on June 29, 2011, 10:54:22 am
THE FOLLOWING  top down entries depict how i arive here maybe
it al begins by formatting the D: drive where XP eventually winds up
Volume in drive D is XP D
 Volume Serial Number is 4160-1AEA { i no longer try to control the serial {{ maybe i will {{{ stay tunned

 Directory of D:\07 {07 is the (Um} folder where i keep track of this

2011 06/27  23:26    <DIR>          .  after forMAT
2011 06/27  23:26    <DIR>          .. install XP automattically {put in cD
2011 06/27  23:27    615,335 a_xp.txt  { after XP loads D has .6 loaded {{ its never the same
2011 06/27  21:42    629,303 b_k.txt    {{ I then add the WiFee driver / Belkins
2011 06/27  22:13    631,643 C_AM.TXT ( next A camera drive
2011 06/27  22:18    656,586 c_db.txt   (( that CD has a copy of ADOBY .pdf reader /so i use + hate
2011 06/27  22:29    670,932 d_sc.txt    ? a second camera driver / OREGON SCIENTIFIC ?
2011 06/27  22:46    687,251 f_ff.txt     ?? firefox
2011 06/27  22:52    688,321 f_fl.txt    ??? flash for ff / this wiLL be ommitted by 7/1
2011 06/27  22:58    866,634 p_7.txt    x python | yeah i Loaded python and will get a book today
2011 06/29  02:34                 0 z_dir07.txt   xx this file is this file prior to  THIS ENTRY ?/?
               9 File(s)      5,446,005 bytes
               2 Dir(s)  18,390,777,856 bytes free

SO IT winds up with ES in control / not ME so i'LL reREboot again

Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: trix on June 29, 2011, 11:19:42 am
Hello hirley0.  I've just come from reading a lot of your back posts trying to understand your unusual posting style.  After a lot of reading and hardcore attempts at decoding your messages, I have one question:

Are you skynet?
Title: 3:45:56.789
Post by: hirley0 on June 29, 2011, 12:28:59 pm
ALLRIGHT lemme try to eXplain
1 i'm iterative { meaning very slow | not recursive (not fast)
2 write 1 line R*T=D | rate time$ Time = Distance
3 then rearange the line | T=D/R || time = distance devided by R
-
Rodger that?
to do this stuff you must first find the command prompt
in windows to find the command prompt click start /
? All Programs ? Accessories : command prompt {cLICK that
-
USually that brings up prompT line at your folder >
so talk to your compoter in NOP code and say
change directory to nop
= type
cd\
that entry gets one out of their own folder {mind set
make a new folder(directory)
md\Time2
::
OK now its time to keep track of the events on your drive so type
OR better yet copy and paste { it saves time
dir /s > \time2\savetime.txt   rev8:30 DIR/A /S > \TIME2\SAVETIME.TXT
????
now you have a meaningless file in your time2 folder to look at called
savetime.txt. search it for pagefile.sys | its not there because its
hidden | its hidden so U cant see it etc etc. What2do what to do
/TilT\
do eXactly the same thing the next day only change time to a number
like 1111 or the date 0630 etc. what matters is the SPACE REMaining
USually theres a lot reMAINing as they sold you a lot of it & U did
~bt~
the price of course is time, naturaLLy SO rewrite the eQUation
D=R*T and assume D (distance to REMain about the same) thus if
time is being taken(LOSt) Rate(R) must be forced to increase
.BB.
best bet .. copy&paste so copy mondays space REMaining the
Fridays space reMAINingg | SUBTRACT F# from M# to get LOSS
then devide space remaining by losses per week to determine
when U need to buy a new gimmy | not a new GRUMPY. 4 aRe enough

Hello hirley0.  I've just come from reading a lot of your back posts trying to understand your unusual posting style.  After a lot of reading and hardcore attempts at decoding your messages, I have one question:

Are you skynet?
NOP e
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 29, 2011, 03:34:34 pm
 :lulz:
Title: read Across
Post by: hirley0 on June 29, 2011, 04:29:13 pm
SO ANYWAY: ABOUT 8:24-
I GOT interested and turned off the other computer / the one in the bathroom / it was doing
GRAVITY WAVE RESEARCH for years & years 24/7 | i got tired of it as the SUN REMained QUiet

its a 33 {i guess that means MHz and the Os is 6.22 | EObs

:lulz:

now i need to revise the post above / CAUSE I LERnt somethin see time stampd 8:26

2011 06/29 9:00 {?HMMM
-
WeLL its an hour tiLL the LiBraRy opens so may as well get On with it
= =
Humpy the OS (command.com etc) wiLL instal {maybe} in Grumpy
SO the vertual part should be put in HUMPY so do it NEXT
: : :
ok NOW THERE ARE TWO usb drives one for the OS (operating system) GRUMPY
& the other HUMPY (hopefully) for the vertual stuff { once its found
in the mean time its getting close to 10 time to check out Python ?
? ? ? ?
Hi NooN(maybe) 11b ok so i checked out 5.133P999b i doubt i'LL open it
here HOWEVER is the poop YES i updated my website http://web.pdx.edu/~pdx00782
also the nice lady provided me with the foLLowing Link
http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Emulators/
Title: June #30
Post by: hirley0 on June 30, 2011, 02:06:50 pm
9:B https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Toolkit_API ?: DOES it make sence 2U
6/30 reboot2 (ready for July} no flash.

 Volume in drive D is D_XP
 Volume Serial Number is 2011-0701 {ready for tomorrow {{ GOT IT

 Directory of D:\07

06/30/2011  0538    <DIR>          .
06/30/2011  0538    <DIR>          ..
06/30/2011  0539           631,654 A_XP.TXT
06/30/2011  0456           660,155 B_LK.TXT
06/30/2011  0529           691,811 D_SC.TXT
06/30/2011  0540           697,678 F_FF.TXT
06/30/2011  0604                 0 zdir0630.txt
               5 File(s)      2,681,298 bytes
               2 Dir(s)  18,515,787,776 bytes free
Title: July 1 (pronounced WON)
Post by: hirley0 on July 01, 2011, 03:19:35 pm
read boTTum UP

6:52? NAVy {cLICK to skip to MatLab (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=27356.msg1065504#msg1065504)

 MorOn 6:26B LiNEs change by the minute colors change by random increments of time

BY THIS TIME 7:17 P THE $Y$ has become $0 dependant on (make E-M Mad
i've stopped checking my E-mAIL ON A DAILY BASIS . as for foXing this 4 get it i wiLL be Firing i think
stay tuned to the VOLUME: Volume is 2011-0701 CHANGED MONTHLY
Title: Re: Hey Windows-savvy people
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on July 01, 2011, 03:20:34 pm
OK, seriously. I bought a new computer. Thread is over.