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#2
Principia Discussion / Happy Discoflux!
May 03, 2011, 01:23:11 AM
Whatever Discoflux is. Have a good :fnord:.
#3
Principia Discussion / Re: Holy Names
May 01, 2011, 07:47:22 AM
Quote from: ch3mist on April 29, 2011, 03:08:25 AM
Quote from: Diogenes on April 29, 2011, 12:02:24 AM
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I hope that you get a good show, because you sir have a phenomenal handle.

Peregrinus might have trumped Diogenes in terms of showmanship, but anyone who could spend that much time looking for something that doesn't exist... classic hero stuff.

Huh, would you guess I'd never heard of Peregrinus? NEW READING AWAITS!

Thanks!
#4
Principia Discussion / Re: Holy Names
April 29, 2011, 12:02:24 AM
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#5
You could also try Good Omens which was written by them both!
#6
Quote from: Hoopla on April 21, 2011, 06:40:04 PM
I don't care for philosophical satanists, but I get a big kick out of actual devil worshippers.

I mean, let's be honest, they're basically Christians with a persecution complex.  It's not like the disbelieve in God, they just choose to worship the Other Guy.  It takes a certain amount of balls to knowingly choose to follow the admitted loser.

So yeah... I find devil worshippers amusing, but I find philosophical satanists tedious.

I would say I'm on the same boat as you.
#7
Quote from: Doktor Blight on April 21, 2011, 03:56:27 PM
Quote from: Luna on April 21, 2011, 10:14:34 AM
And yet, even with the disclaimers, we click...

Forbidden fruit.

"Hey dude, what did you just see?"
"You don't want to know."
"Fuck that, I'm just going to look at what you looked at"
"you won't enjoy it"
"You're right I didn't"

If you want lots of people to look at something online, tell them they don't want to see it. Exploitable...I can envision posting a picture of a table to reddit or something with the title "You don't want to see this."
#8
Quote from: Slyph on April 21, 2011, 03:29:31 PM
Quote from: Diogenes on April 21, 2011, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: Slyph on April 21, 2011, 01:12:16 PM
Quoteget slammed for being an "inferior" idea,

"Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained."

I don't disagree with everything you said, but this one is only as slammable as beliefs/things written about in other religions. E.g. "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" and Moses parting a fucking ocean.

If you contend that Satanism is inferior because it has references to the supernatural, you can't really call it inferior (on those grounds) to others that do the same.

Edit: I understand that you're not necessarily doing that though.

"Other people do it too" is no basis for a belief, does it really belong in one that portends to be a state of justified rebellion?

Anyway, what I really want to say is that Satanism has zero (I think the word is) Deontological merit. Everything Satanism IS, Is effectively the wearing a pentagram yeah satan fuck you buddy stuff. Because there's no actual advice there.

It depends. The Satanist Bible is full of advice. There are commandments etc. I don't agree with them, but either way it's more than wearing a pentagram. I don't mean to defend it, I just think that if it should be laughed off, then only as much as numerous religions that have inspired worse acts of douchebaggery in the past.

As far as I see it, the only thing that separates the Holy Bible from the Satanist Bible is that one was a modern writer and the other was some ignorant desert nomads. They're both full of crap and horrible ethics, with some valid advice/philosophy to be found somewhere, which is what followers usually focus on.
#9
Quote from: Slyph on April 21, 2011, 01:12:16 PM
Quoteget slammed for being an "inferior" idea,

"Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained."

I don't disagree with everything you said, but this one is only as slammable as beliefs/things written about in other religions. E.g. "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" and Moses parting a fucking ocean.

If you contend that Satanism is inferior because it has references to the supernatural, you can't really call it inferior (on those grounds) to others that do the same.

Edit: I understand that you're not necessarily doing that though.
#10
Infinite monkeys on typewriters. The good stuff comes out of that sludge.
#11
Quote from: postvex™ on April 20, 2011, 03:36:05 AM
For the record... (not that anyone really cares)

I used to think I was a Satanist. It probably happens to a lot of 17 year olds whose fathers are Baptist preachers and who are looking for a way to distance themselves as far and as fast from a religion that killed their Grandmothers (that's a different story). I don't know what the fuck LaVey was thinking, or what his band of smelly groupies thought he was doing (none of them probably had a real clue anyway), but for me Satanism did exactly what it was supposed to do: violently break my addiction to tradition and socially-acceptable rituals, while maintaining my psychic need for ritual and providing something that felt like a belief system while simultaneously undermining and eventually dissolving my need for a belief system.

TL;DR: I had a Satanic phase, and it worked for me.

So I thought I had the Satan and everything was cool, until I realized that other Satanists were absolute, complete wankers who liked to stew in their own body odors and lack of hygiene, get hopelessly indebted to the system, accomplish nothing with their lives and become total wastes, while talking themselves up, starting and abandoning pointless little Churches of Satan/Baphomet/Lucifer/etc., and shitting their impotent elitism on anybody who looked at them weird.

So that sucked. But then I fell in with a bunch of crazies who called themselves "Discordians." And the rest is history.

Great story, thanks for sharing  :)
#12
Principia Discussion / Re: Steal a Celebrity
April 19, 2011, 09:31:28 PM
Quote from: Telarus on April 19, 2011, 07:48:11 PM
We may have some luck slipping Zenarchist material to Jim Carey. He recently went on some transcendental meditation schtick a while back, and it really seems to have stuck with him (he dumped Jenny).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4cbzUG2V-I&feature=player_embedded
#13
Principia Discussion / Re: Steal a Celebrity
April 19, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on April 19, 2011, 05:10:50 PM
Don't retract, answer.  WHY DOES DISCORDIA NEED CELEBRITIES?

Ok I got this. I don't really think it needs celebrities, but it was a fun idea for a thread so people are joining in because it doesn't make any difference whether they use it or not, since even if said celebrities were even to hear of this thread, the improbability factor of them giving a fuck is exceedingly high.
#14
Principia Discussion / Re: Steal a Celebrity
April 19, 2011, 05:10:08 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 19, 2011, 05:06:37 PM
Diogenes, it's really simple. All you have to do is not be a dick, and people here will, for the most part, be really nice to you. Sort of like in real life, right?

k

I have already apologised, but I would like to further retract my one-word shitstorm causer, "Guess."
#15
Principia Discussion / Re: Steal a Celebrity
April 19, 2011, 04:57:17 PM
Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on April 19, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
That's because he hasn't said anything except for telling us to figure out why his idea was a good one.

Quote from: Jenkem and Tomahawks on April 19, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
Here's a thought;  Stop being obnoxious and actually participate in the conversation that YOU started.  Man up or go home.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I was the OP. Either way,

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