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On the off chance that its not a troll...

For awhile I was a regular practitioner of 'magic'. I had some very interesting experiments and experiences. I also found it useful for rewiring bits of my brain.

I didn't continue simply because doing the same thing, placing yourself in one specific mindset/model/belief system is (IMO) a bad idea. When I find a situation where I think magic would be useful, I still use it. I don't however, use it as a regular or daily practice.

Okay but did you do anything reality-shattering, like summoning demons?

Yes, but I don't think make believe quite covers it. You cause hallucinations of the kind that can only otherwise be caused by large doses of very dangerous deliriants. Such as things flying off the altar, which you then pick up and put back. And hearing voices, and sensations. It's amazing.

Hello. I recall that there are a few people here who used to be into that stuff, and I'd like to know why you stopped, and how you explain the weird stuff that you have probably experienced when invoking and evoking spirits. By that I mean objects moving around, seeing spirits in crystal ball or formed out of incense smoke, voices, powerful emotions etc. I suppose you believe they were hallucinations? Well so do I, except perhaps the objects that move about (though I'm not ruling it out). But aren't they interesting and crazy enough to continue evoking anyway? I don't understand why you would stop hypnotizing yourself for such an emotional, phantasmagorical experience. I have also found it useful for quite dramatically re-wiring my brain, but there are plenty of other ways to do that anyway, and as for affecting outer reality, well I'm not sure that's possible, it's never worked for me, so I'm just going to leave the question here: Why, from the point of view of entertainment, did you stop evoking? Did you get bored? Were you never successful?

I am not so sure.  I mean, what you're saying sounds true, but I subscribe to the wisdom that if you can't explain something in words, you don't understand it.  Language may not be able to describe every idea imaginable, and what it does describe can never be conveyed completely by words alone, but words are still the best medium at our disposal for sharing some kind of truth, so it is kind of important that we say things that can be made sense of whenever possible.

I definitely think you can understand something without being able to explain it. Languages can be very bad at describing certain things, and I'm sure there are many people with English as a second language who would have no idea how to describe something in English, but could describe it perfectly well in their own language. One example would be emotions. English and German have very few words for describing emotions, and I often have a lot of trouble explaining them. It would take me ages to describe all the memories and experiences that contribute to the way I'm feeling, and even then you probably wouldn't get a very good understanding. Explaining in a reasonable amount of time usually sounds like some ridiculous haiku that makes not a lot of sense to most people (though not always). Maybe I'm just crap at describing emotions, but I don't think that means per se that I don't understand my feelings, or else everyone's understanding would correlate exactly to their oratory skills. And that sounds like bullshit. There are a lot of very intelligent people who are not incredibly great at speaking and writing.

Another example would be spiritual experiences. I can have some success explaining these, but it takes a very long time and I fuck up a lot and end up going around in circles. I'm sure that someone else could explain it better than me, but that doesn't necessary reflect superior understanding.
I think mystical experience is very unsuited to words in general, but English seems to be particularly bad at it. I've heard that Tibetan languages are much better at describing these things, containing many word-concepts that don't exist in English, and some that many Europeans would have a lot of trouble understanding. Therefore a Tibetan could describe certain things much better than we could, which probably means they have a better understanding of them because they come from a culture that recognizes these things. But I definitely don't think that is a rule. Someone else could have greater understanding, but have no way of communicating it, while someone with lesser understanding has better tools to communicate.

On a scale of one to how many chicks did you pick up, how good was your body odor and dancing skill?

Have you read the Book of Numbers, or Joshua?

I haven't read/or don't remember what happens in Joshua. And isn't Numbers just a genealogy?

The bolded mean the same thing.  We are all descended from Noah.  Google "Table of Nations", with the quotes.

FACT: The Mighty Hercules was Noah's great-great grandson (Noah -> Japheph -> Javan -> Dodanim -> Hercules)

Edit: added sauce.

Yes I see they do. I meant ancestors that remembered the floods happening in their native land

It's likely that a branch of the Sinites went across the Pacific and spread into the Americas through Alaska, and as they spread southward they encountered the Mizraimites who were spreading northward. Instead of going to war and establishing borders like Godly folks would have done, they interbred with each other and became a bunch of hybridized mongrels.

Oh come on, that's blatantly un-Christian. They have to be trolls right?
I thought I didn't have any faith left to lose  

Edit: It HAS to be a joke. There's a graph that says retarded people are descendants of Nephilim. Aside from that being ridiculous, ALL the nephilim were killed in the flood. It's like they're too stupid to read the bible even, I refuse to believe it!

My favorite one is a common saying of Jehovah's Witnesses that every culture has a story of a flood, which therefore proves the deluge. But most of them actually think the people's ancestors remembered it, forgetting that there was no one alive to tell the story. If you point that out to them, they'll usually just realize that Noah told them about it.

We are the work: 110% hard, all day
for no pay.
this is all my idea, should I fleshy outie?

Why did the snail cross the road?

Because it was wet.

That Eris myth is missing the part where the goddesses learn to recognize the unconscious cause of their dispute. Throwing apples I think often has the effect of pissing people off and just making them draw deeper into their shell, if you throw too hard anyway. Particularly stupid people probably aren't going to learn anything if you offend them too much, they're going to entrench themselves deeper into their current position, unless you do something really clever that upsets their belief patterns without offending them personally. Although, I guess almost anything will make them do that.

You know, that sounds kinda stupid, and impossible, now. I don't know any people that believe things who don't equate those beliefs with themselves, in fact building an identity seems to be the entire reason people have beliefs.
Okay I guess my point is if you throw the apples too hard your only excuse is fun (not that there's anything wrong with that)