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Are Conspiracy Nuts Actually Twisted Narcissists?

Started by hooplala, January 27, 2011, 05:30:12 PM

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Salty

I view conspiracy nuts in the same light as I do "indigo children" people as well as legalist fundamentalist Christians who're into Left Behind.

There's gotta be a more imaginative and productive way to feel that you're special. 
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

BadBeast

David Icke claims that the World's economy is run by Blood drinking Lizards masquerading as Humans, such as George W Bush and Her Majesty the Queen. Why doesn't he break into their homes then, and have a look at their bedrooms? If they sleep on a big rock instead of a bed and have an enormous red light bulb hanging over them, I think he would gain a lot more credibility..
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Reginald Ret

Conspiracy nuts are fucking optimists denying the horrible reality and it's near random nature.
Yes the world is fucked up, but there is no evil overlord causing the bad stuff, the bad stuff is just what happens naturally when you put a lot of people together.
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

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Phox

Quote from: Regret on January 28, 2011, 12:21:32 AM
Conspiracy nuts are fucking optimists denying the horrible reality and it's near random nature.
Yes the world is fucked up, but there is no evil overlord causing the bad stuff, the bad stuff is just what happens naturally when you put a lot of people together.
:lulz:

I agree.

Xooxe

Quote from: BadBeast on January 28, 2011, 12:17:29 AM
David Icke claims...

...any outlandish beliefs that aren't nailed down. The last claim I heard of his was that all life on Earth used to absorb its nourishment directly from the atmosphere. There were no carnivores until the moon turned up and spoiled it for everyone.  :lulz:

Funny that we're talking about narcissism, though. I was reading barely tolerating Icke's new book recently and he talks about nothing but himself until chapter 4.

BadBeast

Quote from: Xooxe on January 28, 2011, 03:16:47 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on January 28, 2011, 12:17:29 AM
David Icke claims...

...any outlandish beliefs that aren't nailed down. The last claim I heard of his was that all life on Earth used to absorb its nourishment directly from the atmosphere. There were no carnivores until the moon turned up and spoiled it for everyone.  :lulz:

Funny that we're talking about narcissism, though. I was reading barely tolerating Icke's new book recently and he talks about nothing but himself until chapter 4.
I must admit, I've got a bit of a spot for David Icke. He's my favourite homegrown nutter. Plus, when I see him on some of his earlier videos, speaking about teh Lizards and stuff, I believe every word. (I know it's bollocks,but I still believe him) He is so totally wrapped up in it.  And you can't actually dislike him, he obviously takes it all very seriously and has our best interests at heart. Yeah, there's definitely room in my life for David Icke.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Iason Ouabache

Quote from: Regret on January 28, 2011, 12:21:32 AM
Conspiracy nuts are fucking optimists denying the horrible reality and it's near random nature.
Yes the world is fucked up, but there is no evil overlord causing the bad stuff, the bad stuff is just what happens naturally when you put a lot of people together.
Conspiracy theories are for people who don't understand Murphy's Law (or Heinlein's Razor).
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Cain

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 27, 2011, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 27, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
Its always incredibly annoying to them to point out most actual conspiracies can be found with a few key words on Wikipedia, and don't involve shapeshifting aliens, the Illuminati, UFOs, chemtrails or Jews (except in the case of Israel) at all.

And even better, that the investigations were carried out often by sitting Parliaments and the Judiciary, so clearly the conspiracies they imagined are neither fully entrenched or all powerful.

Yep.  The best conspiracy EVER was PNAC, and they had a website that listed their agenda and their members.

I was thinking covert action in Nicaragua and Italy, plus things like the Church and Pike Committees etc, but that works as well.

Slyph

My favourate story about David Icke is how he found it really hard to get past Canadian immigration because they couldn't quite believe he actually meant "Reptillian aliens" and thought it was dogwhistle antisemitism.

Cain

Quote from: Slyph on January 28, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
My favourate story about David Icke is how he found it really hard to get past Canadian immigration because they couldn't quite believe he actually meant "Reptillian aliens" and thought it was dogwhistle antisemitism.

That Canadian immigration immediately associate Reptilian aliens with Jews is not a flattering view into their general mindset.

hooplala

Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 27, 2011, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 27, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
I mean, ok, for all I know I might be a deluded fool who is manipulated by shape shifting reptilians, but I have no proof of it so I'm not even going to entertain the notion in the meantime, so let's assume these shape shifting reptilians don't exist, for the sake of conversation...
I'm giving you a choice: either put on these glasses or start eating that trash can. (possible NSFW language)

:lulz:
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"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

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Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Suu

Quote from: Cain on January 28, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
Quote from: Slyph on January 28, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
My favourate story about David Icke is how he found it really hard to get past Canadian immigration because they couldn't quite believe he actually meant "Reptillian aliens" and thought it was dogwhistle antisemitism.

That Canadian immigration immediately associate Reptilian aliens with Jews is not a flattering view into their general mindset.

Either that, or they were trying to find a less crazy reason to not allow Icke in the country.
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hooplala

Quote from: Suu on January 28, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 28, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
Quote from: Slyph on January 28, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
My favourate story about David Icke is how he found it really hard to get past Canadian immigration because they couldn't quite believe he actually meant "Reptillian aliens" and thought it was dogwhistle antisemitism.

That Canadian immigration immediately associate Reptilian aliens with Jews is not a flattering view into their general mindset.

Either that, or they were trying to find a less crazy reason to not allow Icke in the country.

One of Canada's favourite pastimes is denying "objectionable" people to the country, especially when they are coming to give some sort of speech or talk.  It's one of the few times we get into international news.  Canada is not really big on free speech.  They are especially hard on alleged anti-Semitics, and probably were hoping that denying Icke entry to the country would once again land them on the pages of the news.  It's sad.  It's actually sadder than if they really did conflate Reptilian Aliens with Jews.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

BadBeast

Quote from: Slyph on January 28, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
My favourate story about David Icke is how he found it really hard to get past Canadian immigration because they couldn't quite believe he actually meant "Reptillian aliens" and thought it was dogwhistle antisemitism.
Yes, there was a concerted campaign by the Anti-Defamation League in America to get him banned from entering the US. They came to the conclusion that when he said "Blood drinking Reptilian Alien Shapeshifters", what he actually meant, was "Jew". (And people say that Icke is the crazy one) The Tour went ahead, but there were many States he wasn't allowed to enter.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

hooplala

Quote from: Regret on January 28, 2011, 12:21:32 AM
Conspiracy nuts are fucking optimists denying the horrible reality and it's near random nature.
Yes the world is fucked up, but there is no evil overlord causing the bad stuff, the bad stuff is just what happens naturally when you put a lot of people together.

This, by the way, is exactly my view on the whole matter.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman