LOL, Cameron declares multiculturalism a failure on same day as Neo-Nazis march

[Cain]

I don't even like Sadiq Khan, jumped up little autocrat that he is, but I am forced to agree with his statements here. It is amazing how Labour find their social democratic backbone once they are no longer in power, as well, but anyway...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12376304

The foreign secretary has defended the timing of David Cameron's comments on multiculturalism - which coincided with a march by the English Defence League.

In Saturday's Mirror, Labour's Sadiq Khan accused the PM of effectively "writing propaganda for the EDL".

William Hague said a PM's speech should not be shelved "because some people have chosen to march down a street".

Labour's Yvette Cooper said the PM was "unwise" not to have also criticised the EDL and "non-violent extremism".

In his speech on radicalisation and terrorism on Saturday, Mr Cameron warned that the "hands-off tolerance" of unacceptable practices by non-white communities had only served to encourage extremism.

He criticised "state multiculturalism" and argued the UK needed a stronger national identity to stop people turning to extremism.

The English Defence League, which has been accused of Islamophobia - also held a rally in Luton on Saturday, prompting criticisms from some Labour MPs about the timing of Mr Cameron's speech. The EDL's leaders deny the group is racist.
'Will endure'

Asked whether the timing of the speech had been unfortunate, Foreign Secretary Mr Hague told BBC One's Andrew Marr Show: "This is a prime minister giving a speech about the future of our country, that doesn't have to be re-scheduled because some people have chosen to march down a street that particular day.

"This is a speech that will endure over the months and years long after people have forgotten what was going on on that particular Saturday afternoon."

But shadow justice secretary Sadiq Khan reportedly told the Mirror newspaper that Mr Cameron was "writing propaganda" for the group - a remark criticised by the Conservatives as a "smear".

Asked whether Mr Khan had been right to make the remark, Ms Cooper told Sky News: "I think that we have always got to fight against extremism, it's also right to challenge non-violent extremism as well.

"I do think the prime minister was unwise not to make it clearer that he was criticising all kinds of extremism and so on the day of course that we had the English Defence League march he could have made it clearer that he was criticising extremism among EDL members."

Yes, clearly the EDL are suffering from a lack of clearly defined British identity, just as Muslim terrorists are, and if only we tried to heighten values dissonance between the United Kingdom and a minority of its subjects, it will cause less conflict.  I'm sure the EDL would stop marching around with their swastikas if they were told daily that everyone regardless of race or religion is equal and would totally not claim this was a secret conspiracy to undermine the United Kingdom, and that disaffected Muslim youths would totally not roll their eyes at being lectured about human rights by a nation which launched an illegal war and practices torture and rendition against their peer group.  Wait, what?  

[Adios]

I am confused as to how a speech decrying extremism could be construed as supporting it. 

[Don Coyote]

I am confused as to how a speech decrying extremism could be construed as supporting it. 

It was also a speech supporting a stronger national identity if I read things right. And the EDL is very "English".

[Cain]

Precisely.

He's also pandering to the Daily Mail crowd here.  He made it quite clear he was talking about Muslim extremism, but it is not at all clear that the government will stand up to rightwing extremism such as the EDL.  He's also quite muddled on several points.

For example, the state no longer funds certain community leadership groups like the Muslim Council, so to talk of state-mandated multiculturalism is pure nonsense.  He talks about people not being able to speak English in Britain while cutting ESOL classes.  He wants to ban "preachers of hate" from coming here, but it is not at all mentioned whether this would apply to Geert Wilders and the like.

And beyond that, there is a huge contradiction in claiming Britain is a liberal and tolerant country and using the law to go after people who voice illiberal and intolerant viewpoints.

So basically, Cameron was hectoring British Muslims to take care of their own nutters, a speech which never goes down well among moderate Muslims, while a bunch of white nutters with very similar views to the Muslim nutters were parading around and no-one was telling "white Britain" to take care of them, or blaming them for not speaking out hard enough.  Its double standards like these which convince people that the "liberal values" Cameron would like to promote are nothing more than a hypocritical stick to beat minority groups with.

[Adios]

Okay, thanks for the background, that helped a lot.

[The Johnny]

The hosts of the television program about cars "Top Gear", of the british network BBC, eluded to offer a public apology in their sunday emission, and instead commented "We got away with it".

The Mexican Embassy in the UK asked, in a letter dated the 31st of January, that the hosts offered in their show a public apology for the offense caused the previous sunday to this latin-american nation.

Like seriously, the British are starting to be worse than the fucking French; its "funny" and "entertaining" to make bigoted remarks apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVtyXucVOD4&feature=player_embedded

And im not particularly nationalistic, its just that i hate douchebags that think they are so much better.

[bds]

Fuck's sake.

[Xooxe]

Like seriously, the British are starting to be worse than the fucking French; its "funny" and "entertaining" to make bigoted remarks apparently.

Solution: Dress up as a granny, beat them with a plank of wood, then tell them to lighten up because it's only slapstick.