CRAMULUS

[Eater of Clowns]

Relative newcomer's thought...  I think I can count on one hand the number of people around here who actually know what color my skin is.  Never got the feeling anybody gave much of a shit.

You're in the SCA.

That's the whitest shit imaginable.

[Don Coyote]

Relative newcomer's thought...  I think I can count on one hand the number of people around here who actually know what color my skin is.  Never got the feeling anybody gave much of a shit.

You're in the SCA.

That's the whitest shit imaginable.

MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU OWE ME A COKE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Telarus]

 

I like where this thread went.

[Don Coyote]

You know wht? I think LARPing is whiter than SCA.

Hrm....now I am juggling the whitness of LARP, SCA, and historical martial arts reconstruction.

FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!

[President Television]

You know wht? I think LARPing is whiter than SCA.

Hrm....now I am juggling the whitness of LARP, SCA, and historical martial arts reconstruction.

FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!

Hey, I know a really awesome Native dude who met his fiance LARPing.

[The Johnny]

In terms of internet usage in Mexico, its mostly instant gratification entertainment (youtube, facebook) or just school/work related, i wouldnt consider a huge portion of the population to be "digitalized" so to speak. Add to that the fact that internet access is a luxury that is usually not chosen over TV subscription or alcohol, the internet user demography is small. For example, i survive a month with about $416 (dollars), and about $41 of them go to the phone/internet rent. (just as reference, i pay $91 of housing).

Now, on terms of the demography taht actually has internet access, its either middle or high class... due to the class unequality, most of middle and upper class have prejudice and entitlement ideology, something Tea-Baggerish, but thats just a metaphor... i mean, they have ideological ties mostly to the far-right, establishment and orthodox religion... so theres few subversives from the upper classes...

Now, the middle or upper class people that are anti-establishment, so to speak, are mostly jaded and hedonistic, they know how things work, and how they dont change...

As for me, ive lived in different places with different cultures; ive been miserable poor, and ive been also in positions of wealth; im smart, with previos interest in philosophy and a huge interest on psychology now; im also a social recluse that lives on books and music.

Im also white compared to my nationals; so yes, if one wants to make the postulation that race is the determinining factor its simplyfiyng the issue... the underlying tie to "race" would in fact be the factors of time to actually read, disposition towards subversive ideology, tendency for reading odd articles about odd symbolical things.

[BabylonHoruv]

My racial barrier is definitely "porous", if you know what I mean...

[BabylonHoruv]

You know wht? I think LARPing is whiter than SCA.

Hrm....now I am juggling the whitness of LARP, SCA, and historical martial arts reconstruction.

FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!

SCA is Larping.  A particularly white variety of it.

I also know 2 blacks and a native that LARP, although perhaps they are "culturally white"  I've never seen anyone darker that pasty at an SCA event.

[pH]

If we want to consider whether or not we have a 'duty' or 'obligation' to use privileges that are, for lack of a better term, based on luck, how will that be qualified? For example, what precisely are the privileges, and to what extent would that obligation go? For example, I'm white (75% German, 25% Hungarian, with a pedigree and family lines going back to the 1600s), in a household that gets $300k annually. Does this mean I have an obligation to toss a dollar at a homeless man, or give him a meal, set of clothes, and a shower? Or would that vary depending on whether or not the man is a 'minority'?

So if an obligation to help who we can exists, is it only to help those who we have an 'advantage' over based on race, or those who don't live as well as us?

[The Johnny]

PD is mostly id think a USA based community, most of the point of being here is about interaction with the other members of it, because although the host to the Principia Discordia, it isnt primarily about Discordianism.

And necessarily follows that if its central focus is on the community, the people that remain are the ones that have good interaction with the already present members.

Make of it what you will, its subjective as to if this is a good or bad thing.

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PD subforum is basicly for the very much philosophically driven, with the pineal thread here and there.

AT is internet candy, temple of the memes but mostly the part where day to day or merely social conversations take place (theres exceptions, but this is the general thing going on)

OMF is trolling (in all its definitions)

AI is politics and news

TFYS is sporadically the grounds of BIP discussions, with a lot of texts being a mix between OKM and the PD stylistic

DC is pretty self describing

LC is the host of the "best book" discussions, piracy and personal narratives

OKM is supposedly intended for rants, but theres a lot of texts similar to those created in LC

TaS self described

MMM is a mix between OMF and LC

BB self described
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Now that we have a summary, we can get on to some analysis.

PD: very niche interest

AT: of vague interest for non-USA or very socially involved foreigners

OMF: not intrinsecally tied to discordianism

AI: some interest to foreigners, but sometimes it gets flooded with local news that arent of general interest

TFYSS: Not much activity on projects

DC: somewhat like OMF

LC: i consider it a niche interest too

OKM: too methaporical and personal for my taste usually

TaS: see DC and OMF

BB: for the socially inclined too id say

[BabylonHoruv]

If we want to consider whether or not we have a 'duty' or 'obligation' to use privileges that are, for lack of a better term, based on luck, how will that be qualified? For example, what precisely are the privileges, and to what extent would that obligation go? For example, I'm white (75% German, 25% Hungarian, with a pedigree and family lines going back to the 1600s), in a household that gets $300k annually. Does this mean I have an obligation to toss a dollar at a homeless man, or give him a meal, set of clothes, and a shower? Or would that vary depending on whether or not the man is a 'minority'?

So if an obligation to help who we can exists, is it only to help those who we have an 'advantage' over based on race, or those who don't live as well as us?

Well, not to be terribly specific, but a few of the advantages you have are, literacy, fluency in English, no need to worry about food/shelter/clothing, access to education and spare time.

Tossing a dollar to a homeless man, even getting him fed, showered, and clothed, is a temporary fix focused on one person.  Not that it isn't a good thing to do, but a lot of the problems are systemic and your privilege gives you the leisure to actually address some of those.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

SCA is Larping.  

No it fucking isn't.  It's grown men beating the mortal shit out of each other with blunt objects.  There is no running around yelling "lighting bolt!" and throwing pebbles.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

If we want to consider whether or not we have a 'duty' or 'obligation' to use privileges that are, for lack of a better term, based on luck, how will that be qualified? For example, what precisely are the privileges, and to what extent would that obligation go? For example, I'm white (75% German, 25% Hungarian, with a pedigree and family lines going back to the 1600s), in a household that gets $300k annually. Does this mean I have an obligation to toss a dollar at a homeless man, or give him a meal, set of clothes, and a shower? Or would that vary depending on whether or not the man is a 'minority'?

Yes.  Yes, it does.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

If we want to consider whether or not we have a 'duty' or 'obligation' to use privileges that are, for lack of a better term, based on luck, how will that be qualified? For example, what precisely are the privileges, and to what extent would that obligation go? For example, I'm white (75% German, 25% Hungarian, with a pedigree and family lines going back to the 1600s), in a household that gets $300k annually. Does this mean I have an obligation to toss a dollar at a homeless man, or give him a meal, set of clothes, and a shower? Or would that vary depending on whether or not the man is a 'minority'?

So if an obligation to help who we can exists, is it only to help those who we have an 'advantage' over based on race, or those who don't live as well as us?

I think everyone kind of has to figure out for themselves the ways in which they can use their individual privileges to make the world a better place. You make a lot of money, so that might mean donating to Head Start or a similar organization. It might mean being politically active against people who want to use their privilege to oppress others. It might mean volunteering, teaching ESL, giving a dollar to a homeless man.



But it's up to you.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

What does that mean, "family lines going back to the 1600's"? I don't know about you, but MY family line goes all the way back. To the beginning.