Anarchy

[BadBeast]

Shit! I just helped to derail my own thread. Again! 

[Psychonomaly]

Shoot yourself in the face.

Okay, you win.  I'll be on your side now.  What is your side?

Mine.  The rest of you fuckers should get off my planet, now.

Especially people who quote Crowley with a straight face.

Your belief regarding the orientation of my face is off target.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

He helped Gardner put his "Book of Shadows" together, and therefore gave us "Wicca". Which has been good for a laugh.

He probably kept a deadpan face the whole time.

s'Why I like him... consummate prankster that would climb a tree to lie to your dumb ass when he could stand on the ground and be honest. A guy that focused way too much treasure and energy on poking all of Merry Old England right in the eye. And hell, who can't respect a dude that walks into a restaurant in a full Egyptian priest costume and does rituals while being invisible?

Crowley is far more understandable if you perceive him as a Pranskter than as some kind of seriously serious practitioner of "dark arts".

Besides, for being as ugly as he was, he got a lot of tail. 

[BadBeast]

He helped Gardner put his "Book of Shadows" together, and therefore gave us "Wicca". Which has been good for a laugh.

He probably kept a deadpan face the whole time.

s'Why I like him... consummate prankster that would climb a tree to lie to your dumb ass when he could stand on the ground and be honest. A guy that focused way too much treasure and energy on poking all of Merry Old England right in the eye. And hell, who can't respect a dude that walks into a restaurant in a full Egyptian priest costume and does rituals while being invisible?

Crowley is far more understandable if you perceive him as a Pranskter than as some kind of seriously serious practitioner of "dark arts".

Besides, for being as ugly as he was, he got a lot of tail. 

Absolutely! It's the only way to take him. You've no idea how refreshing, or indeed, rare (Well, actually, you probably do) it is to find people who really do "get" him, in this spirit. The image driven Celebrities of today can't hold a  candle to such a shameless self publicist like Crowley. My favourite quote from him, was in the Daily Mail Libel case, when the Judge asked him if he liked to be known as "The Great Beast, 666". Crowley replied, "Yes, but for the purposes of this Court, you may call me "Little Sunshine". Fucking hilarious! 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

He helped Gardner put his "Book of Shadows" together, and therefore gave us "Wicca". Which has been good for a laugh.

He probably kept a deadpan face the whole time.

s'Why I like him... consummate prankster that would climb a tree to lie to your dumb ass when he could stand on the ground and be honest. A guy that focused way too much treasure and energy on poking all of Merry Old England right in the eye. And hell, who can't respect a dude that walks into a restaurant in a full Egyptian priest costume and does rituals while being invisible?

Crowley is far more understandable if you perceive him as a Pranskter than as some kind of seriously serious practitioner of "dark arts".

Besides, for being as ugly as he was, he got a lot of tail. 

Absolutely! It's the only way to take him. You've no idea how refreshing, or indeed, rare (Well, actually, you probably do) it is to find people who really do "get" him, in this spirit. The image driven Celebrities of today can't hold a  candle to such a shameless self publicist like Crowley. My favourite quote from him, was in the Daily Mail Libel case, when the Judge asked him if he liked to be known as "The Great Beast, 666". Crowley replied, "Yes, but for the purposes of this Court, you may call me "Little Sunshine". Fucking hilarious! 

It is disgusting to have to spend one's life jetting dirt in the face of the British public
in the hope that in washing it they may wash off the acrid grease of their
commercialism, the saline streaks of their hypocritical tears, the putrid perspiration
of their morality, the dribbling slobber of their sentimentality and their religion. And
they don't wash it!

- Liber CLVIII

[BadBeast]

This should more than make up for my derailment earlier. Never mind the Ballots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUJNrDjf4p4&feature=related

[BadBeast]

Bump. for lulz.

[maphdet]

I think ECH said something about being a responsible human being back in the thread somewhere. I agree with that.

Also-Everything has flaws.

There has not been a political system that has worked from day one. and there will most likely never be one. My thoughts-Personal responsibly. I use to express my thought as Anarchy for the government- Peace for the People.  Yeah-Wont work. I've give up hope on any system working-and even a system of no system is still yet a system.

Some label it differently.

Not trying to be all doom and whatnot-just maybe that we humans are looking at shit from a funny/ blurred angle.
I dunno.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

There has not been a political system that has worked from day one. and there will most likely never be one.

Balls.  Plenty of political systems work.  None are perfect.  Welcome to the planet of the apes.

[maphdet]

There has not been a political system that has worked from day one. and there will most likely never be one.

Balls.  Plenty of political systems work.  None are perfect.  Welcome to the planet of the apes.

Right. They partially work. I should have clarified. They are not perfect. But is the portion that works of these systems enough? (to keep humanity humane?) Hmmm, maybe anything is enough so long as The Machine™ continues to be fed.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

There has not been a political system that has worked from day one. and there will most likely never be one.

Balls.  Plenty of political systems work.  None are perfect.  Welcome to the planet of the apes.

Right. They partially work. I should have clarified. They are not perfect. But is the portion that works of these systems enough? (to keep humanity humane?) Hmmm, maybe anything is enough so long as The Machine™ continues to be fed.

History says "yes".

They work well enough, for a time.  Humanity today is 169% more humane than it was 100 years ago.  Or even 50 years ago.

[BadBeast]

Upon reflection, I can see Anarchy is only really workable, as a personal value system. The idea that a Political system can work on Anarchic principles is a non starter. On a personal level, Anarchy is able to function in a realistic fashion, independently of whatever Political system governs in name. Because what it boils down to, is who has more control over how you live your life? Is it the "System", or is it the individual?
Even when it's expedient to say "Yes Sir", and pay lip service to the system, both they, and you both know the heart is really saying "Fuck you"!

[Don Coyote]

Upon reflection, I can see Anarchy is only really workable, as a personal value system. The idea that a Political system can work on Anarchic principles is a non starter. On a personal level, Anarchy is able to function in a realistic fashion, independently of whatever Political system governs in name. Because what it boils down to, is who has more control over how you live your life? Is it the "System", or is it the individual?
Even when it's expedient to say "Yes Sir", and pay lip service to the system, both they, and you both know the heart is really saying "Fuck you"!

But at the same time is it not also denying yourself?


Coyote, cannot express himself properly at the moment.

[BadBeast]

Upon reflection, I can see Anarchy is only really workable, as a personal value system. The idea that a Political system can work on Anarchic principles is a non starter. On a personal level, Anarchy is able to function in a realistic fashion, independently of whatever Political system governs in name. Because what it boils down to, is who has more control over how you live your life? Is it the "System", or is it the individual?
Even when it's expedient to say "Yes Sir", and pay lip service to the system, both they, and you both know the heart is really saying "Fuck you"!

But at the same time is it not also denying yourself?


Coyote, cannot express himself properly at the moment.

Not really, because anything other than the right words (Yes Sir) would begin a show of strength, that always ends up the same way. By paying the minimum of lip service, in a way that saves you from getting shat upon, they win no victory, and you lose no points. Getting goaded into starting a fight you can't win is one of the ways they subjugate dissenters. Stepping around these clumsy bastards is so very easy if you choose not to take these challenges personally.     

[Don Coyote]

Upon reflection, I can see Anarchy is only really workable, as a personal value system. The idea that a Political system can work on Anarchic principles is a non starter. On a personal level, Anarchy is able to function in a realistic fashion, independently of whatever Political system governs in name. Because what it boils down to, is who has more control over how you live your life? Is it the "System", or is it the individual?
Even when it's expedient to say "Yes Sir", and pay lip service to the system, both they, and you both know the heart is really saying "Fuck you"!

But at the same time is it not also denying yourself?


Coyote, cannot express himself properly at the moment.

Not really, because anything other than the right words (Yes Sir) would begin a show of strength, that always ends up the same way. By paying the minimum of lip service, in a way that saves you from getting shat upon, they win no victory, and you lose no points. Getting goaded into starting a fight you can't win is one of the ways they subjugate dissenters. Stepping around these clumsy bastards is so very easy if you choose not to take these challenges personally.     

makes sense. But at the same time, I dunno. That sounds like how I've been dealing with my last NCOIC, which never really felt satisfying.