Anarchy

[Slyph]

In a system of non-coercive social shunning as justice, what happens to the guy who kills his daughter's murderer in an act of private vengeance?

[Slyph]

Oh my god,  Fuck, people are actually arguing for "who runs bartertown" Anarchism with arbitrary physical coersion ad-hocs at any time instead of like Anarcho-Syndicalism or something. "Some more effort if you wish to become Republicans!" eh? I'll get my fucking whip.

[BadBeast]

In a system of non-coercive social shunning as justice, what happens to the guy who kills his daughter's murderer in an act of private vengeance?

What happens is his vengeance gets it's way. As to the consequences of his actions, who can say he was not justified in acting like this?  The chances are, that he would have taken a shot at vengeance no matter what justice system was in place. It would no more stop him, than it stopped his daughter from being murdered.

[Faust]

Oh my god,  Fuck, people are actually arguing for "who runs bartertown" Anarchism with arbitrary physical coersion ad-hocs at any time instead of like Anarcho-Syndicalism or something. "Some more effort if you wish to become Republicans!" eh? I'll get my fucking whip.

To be fair it's the most realistic of the two. One has horribly unrealistic expectations of how people would behave. The others mad max

[Phox]

"who runs bartertown"

Master Blaster!

[BadBeast]

"who runs bartertown"

Master Blaster!

Nah, George Clinton! Can. You. Dig. It!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW8s5vWcU6c

[Slyph]

In a system of non-coercive social shunning as justice, what happens to the guy who kills his daughter's murderer in an act of private vengeance?

What happens is his vengeance gets it's way. As to the consequences of his actions, who can say he was not justified in acting like this?  The chances are, that he would have taken a shot at vengeance no matter what justice system was in place. It would no more stop him, than it stopped his daughter from being murdered.

Okay, so we'll add "Vigilanteeism" to Anarchist forms of justice, right after "Peer pressure."  

What if he just up and kills a dude 'cause he fucked her? Like he's religious or something.

What if he up and kills a dude because he believes falsely, either through circumstantial evidence or delusion, that the man was involved in a conspiracy to kill his daughter?

[East Coast Hustle]

"anarchist forms of Justice"?



What if nobody cares what he does because he's a stinky trustafarian anarchist?

[Slyph]

Aww, don't get personal, The Anarchists are chill, they're just suffering from false consciousness! It's a distortion of revolutionary sentiment Comrade. When I'm in charge they'll go to nice treatment centers, and after they've been re-educated, those that will join us will be greeted as Brothers! And to the rest, the Corked Wall!

Or Kill You.

[East Coast Hustle]

I assume that by "treatment centers" you mean "a sunny spot on the wall".

ECH,
knows there's only one good kind of anarchist

[BadBeast]

In a system of non-coercive social shunning as justice, what happens to the guy who kills his daughter's murderer in an act of private vengeance?

What happens is his vengeance gets it's way. As to the consequences of his actions, who can say he was not justified in acting like this?  The chances are, that he would have taken a shot at vengeance no matter what justice system was in place. It would no more stop him, than it stopped his daughter from being murdered.

Okay, so we'll add "Vigilanteeism" to Anarchist forms of justice, right after "Peer pressure." 

What if he just up and kills a dude 'cause he fucked her? Like he's religious or something.

What if he up and kills a dude because he believes falsely, either through circumstantial evidence or delusion, that the man was involved in a conspiracy to kill his daughter?

vigilantism, peer pressure, murder, conspiracy, and miscarriages of justice all occur anyway, regardless. Why would "Anarchy" make any difference?  And as for "Anarchist forms of Justice"? I wouldn't presume to define what constitutes Justice in the first place. Thinking of Anarchy simply on socio-political terms only leads to misconceptions like the idea that tearing down the State is the objective.
If you think of it as a system of self realignment, with the objective of removing certain culturally imprinted, obsolete, or destructive behavior patterns and ideas, then it becomes workable and flexible.
After all, what's the point of tearing down the State's political and social infrastructure, if you keep the same ingrained cultural values yourself? All you end up doing is replacing one flawed and fucked up form of Government with another.

(What stupid bastard bumped this thread back to life?  Oh,  . . . Ok, well, I suppose I had my reasons.)

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh look, this picture belongs here, too.

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2010/06/08/name-this-band

The Oregonian's coverage of yesterday's Red & Black anarchist press conference includes this fantastic photo that can really be nothing but a publicity shot for Portland's newest hit indie-rockers.

[East Coast Hustle]

The dude with the mic and the headphones is definitely my favorite.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The dude with the mic and the headphones is definitely my favorite.

He thinks he's covering the fall of Saigon or some shit.   

[BadBeast]

The dude with the mic and the headphones is definitely my favorite.

He thinks he's covering the fall of Saigon or some shit.   

Looks like he's flinching from the barrage of rotting fruit that's about to rain down on them.