Hear ye, hear ye! Satire is now deadl! Long live the queen!

[Jasper]

People will have to learn that the biggest part of any secret is that a secret exists.

Gag orders are counter productive.

[Cain]

Depends on the kind of secret.

I mean, I think there is a case for super-injunctions where there is no public interest (no-one cares if footballers are cheating on their wives except their wives and gossip writers), but at the same time Carter Ruck were only stopped from putting a super-injunction on news about UK companies dumping waste off the coast of West Afrca because someone invoked Parliamentary privilege to break the law, after being contacted by journalists who were prevented due to the gag order.  Some journalists are not willing to go to those lengths, and some MPs are not interested in getting involved.  And the UK government is actually fairly good at keeping secrets (official secrets act allows for prosecution, for example).

[Jasper]

I think the two biggest motivations to expose secrets are, generally, justice and comedy.  If it isn't morally right or funny to expose a secret, it probably won't get exposed for a long time.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

I think the two biggest motivations to expose secrets are, generally, justice and comedy.  If it isn't morally right or funny to expose a secret, it probably won't get exposed for a long time.

Oh I have to say that money and fame fall in there somewhere, along with the always popular "people's right to know"!

[Jasper]

How often is there money and fame in whistleblowing?  Look at Bradley Manning and Assange.


Okay well, a bit of fame at any rate, but hardly an amount worth being neck deep in shit over.s

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

How often is there money and fame in whistleblowing?  Look at Bradley Manning.

I didn't say there weren't those who felt they had a "noble" reason.  Just that money and fame should be included in the motivational categories....  Not that everyone fell into all of the categories.... 

I presumed those were individual reasons, not just as whole. 

[Jasper]

I'd submit to you that money and fame are powerful motivators, but rarely do they come into play in situations involving gag orders and exposés.