No Dancing At The Jeffrerson Memorial!

[Adios]

Since when did having a differing opinion equate with persecution? 

Since Kai decided to take his personal life frustrations out on the board.

I like Kai and am more than a little confused at what is going on.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Since when did having a differing opinion equate with persecution? 

It's easy.

1.  Post argument.

2.  When argument has to be defended, make comments about how it's better to not post opinions.

3.  Compare a garden variety argument to a potentially life-changing one, with overtones of persecution, etc.

Sure, you may make your friends feel like shit, but isn't that a small price to pay for the ability to post an argument without having to support it?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Since when did having a differing opinion equate with persecution? 

Since Kai decided to take his personal life frustrations out on the board.

I like Kai and am more than a little confused at what is going on.

I think that just about everybody likes Kai. But Kai is going out of his way to make himself unlikable right now. As far as I can tell he's working on building a world-class persecution complex, and it won't be complete unless he feels his friends and allies are taking part.

[Adios]

Since when did having a differing opinion equate with persecution? 

Since Kai decided to take his personal life frustrations out on the board.

I like Kai and am more than a little confused at what is going on.

I think that just about everybody likes Kai. But Kai is going out of his way to make himself unlikable right now. As far as I can tell he's working on building a world-class persecution complex, and it won't be complete unless he feels his friends and allies are taking part.

Then it will never be complete, I will not be forced into doing that.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Since when did having a differing opinion equate with persecution? 

Since Kai decided to take his personal life frustrations out on the board.

I like Kai and am more than a little confused at what is going on.

I think that just about everybody likes Kai. But Kai is going out of his way to make himself unlikable right now. As far as I can tell he's working on building a world-class persecution complex, and it won't be complete unless he feels his friends and allies are taking part.

Then it will never be complete, I will not be forced into doing that.

I agree.

[Bruno]

Clearly, the best solution is for the government to sell all historic landmarks to some hotdog and apple pie conglomerate who will then be able to restrict people's behavior on their private property.


Everybody wins!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I know that cop's face, BTW.  The one from the beginning of the film.

Every police department in every town in America has one just like him.

[Adios]

I know that cop's face, BTW.  The one from the beginning of the film.

Every police department in every town in America has one just like him.

The bike cop?

"YOU'RE UNDER ARREST. GET IN THE BASKET."

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

I know that cop's face, BTW.  The one from the beginning of the film.

Every police department in every town in America has one just like him.

The bike cop?

"YOU'RE UNDER ARREST. GET IN THE BASKET."

[MMIX]

So, what you're saying is, people should be allowed to be as disruptive as they like on national park lands, even inside of memorials?

I wonder if i stood there and read quotes from Jefferson if it would be considered disruptive.

An authorised demonstration can be disruptive, that isn't the issue

[MMIX]

I think that the law is a bit too widely interpretable. It sounds as if organizing to do ANYTHING at the Jefferson Monument, including simply meeting there for a picnic or a group photo, could be interpreted as "demonstrating" if it were expedient to do so...

http://lawyersusaonline.com/wp-files/pdfs-3/oberwetter-v-hilliard.pdf


The definitions of what can constitute a "demonstration" in the precincts of the park areas of the National Capital Region do seem to allow a rather broad interpretation of the term.

The Regulations provide that, within the park areas of the
National Capital Region, "[d]emonstrations and special events
may be held only pursuant to a permit . . . ." 36 C.F.R.
§ 7.96(g)(2). "Demonstrations" include:
picketing, speechmaking, marching, holding vigils or
religious services and all other like forms of conduct
which involve the communication or expression of views
or grievances, engaged in by one or more persons, the
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conduct of which has the effect, intent or propensity to
draw a crowd or onlookers. [The] term does not include
casual park use by visitors or tourists which does not
have an intent or propensity to attract a crowd or
onlookers.
Id.§ 7.96(g)(1)(i).2

Basically you can do anything from a private, individual silent prayer vigil to a full religious service or a political rally - SO LONG AS YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO DO IT.

ETA Just to clarify, that means that you can't do squat if you don't have permission, and if you don't have permission you can and will be assumed to be in breach of the law.

Read the bolded. AND THEN FUCK OFF AND DIE, IDIOT.

Actually I have read the bolded part,[you idiot], since I was the one who linked the extract - which I will point out is from the judgement in the case of the first dance " demonstration " which was held in March in celebration of Jefferson's birthday.

If you had taken the time to consider what I was saying rather than just blow off hot air because you THINK you know where I am coming from [NB where I come from this process is called "Prejudice"] you would possibly have realised that the issue I was trying to raise was that anything from silent prayer to a marching band can be permitted inside the Jefferson Memorial but also that anything can be defined as a "demonstration". Just in case you misinterpreted my take on this:
THIS IS PROBABLY A BAD IDEA, however it is the law.

cc TGRR & Charley Brown

[Adios]

Why did you cc me in? I wasn't even involved in the quote.

[Bruno]

I wonder what they would do if an obvious cross-dresser walked up and just started silently ogling Jefferson's crotch.

Or if someone in a burka just stood there softly ticking.

[Adios]

I wonder what they would do if an obvious cross-dresser walked up and just started silently ogling Jefferson's crotch.

Or if someone in a burka just stood there softly ticking.

They would have to get in the basket too.

[MMIX]

Why did you cc me in? I wasn't even involved in the quote.

It was to avoid having to include a specific reference to your snide comment trying to smear me with the racist brush. Sorry I was not clearer about it.