Some simple facts about the future people would rather not face

[Elder Iptuous]

interesting aside i just saw...
it's the Guardian, but;

UN security council to consider climate change peacekeeping
Special meeting to discuss 'green helmets' force to intervene in conflicts caused by rising seas levels and shrinking resources

[Disco Pickle]

Fuck that.  Who the fuck decides THAT?

How do you enforce it?

There's two options.

A) Pass legislation that you can't have a kid without obtaining a license. Enforce it by whatever means necessary with state sanctioned euthanasia for violators and their unsanctioned offspring. EDIT by Pickle

B) Every man woman and child on the face of planet earth is wiped out in a horrendous decades-long holocaust

Those are your choices. (B is the default)

If you're going to say it, just fucking say it P3nt.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Fuck that.  Who the fuck decides THAT?

How do you enforce it?

There's two options.

A) Pass legislation that you can't have a kid without obtaining a license. Enforce it by whatever means necessary with state sanctioned euthanasia for violators and their unsanctioned offspring. EDIT by Pickle

B) Every man woman and child on the face of planet earth is wiped out in a horrendous decades-long holocaust

Those are your choices. (B is the default)

If you're going to say it, just fucking say it P3nt.

I wouldn't go so far as to say euthenasia, but I would say sterilization. 

Then again, I am all for legal euthenasia if you get enough signatures on a petition.  Kind of like having to put a dog down because it has bitten one too many people.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Fuck that.  Who the fuck decides THAT?

How do you enforce it?

There's two options.

A) Pass legislation that you can't have a kid without obtaining a license. Enforce it by whatever means necessary with state sanctioned euthanasia for violators and their unsanctioned offspring. EDIT by Pickle

B) Every man woman and child on the face of planet earth is wiped out in a horrendous decades-long holocaust

Those are your choices. (B is the default)

If you're going to say it, just fucking say it P3nt.

Yeah, you're right, a few murders would be truly horrific. Fuck it, I've changed my mind, total genocide is much more humane.

[Elder Iptuous]

Fuck that.  Who the fuck decides THAT?

How do you enforce it?

There's two options.

A) Pass legislation that you can't have a kid without obtaining a license. Enforce it by whatever means necessary with state sanctioned euthanasia for violators and their unsanctioned offspring. EDIT by Pickle

B) Every man woman and child on the face of planet earth is wiped out in a horrendous decades-long holocaust

Those are your choices. (B is the default)

If you're going to say it, just fucking say it P3nt.

the one-child policy in China has some success with only fines, doesn't it?

[Freeky]

Sure they do.  They're running out of girls, though.  Funny, that.

However, their forests have never been more fertilized!

[LMNO]

Quickly, off the top of my head: The US ends the child (dependent) tax break if you have more than one kid.  If you want to have eight kids, fine.  But it would be economically painful to do so.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Maybe some kind of reversible sterilisation or mandatory contraception would be the way to go. You apply for a breeding license and it's run like a lottery, applicants are pulled out a hat until the current quota is met.

I should point out that the notion freaks me out and is subject to a fuckton of abuse (especially regarding the selection criteria vis-a-vis eugenics) but I genuinely find the alternative, doing nothing and the end result of that, much more scary.

[Elder Iptuous]

Sure they do.  They're running out of girls, though.  Funny, that.

However, their forests have never been more fertilized!

That is a foreseeable consequence, and is tragic, however, it isn't the govt that is perpetrating the killing, which is what concerned Pickle.

Quickly, off the top of my head: The US ends the child (dependent) tax break if you have more than one kid.  If you want to have eight kids, fine.  But it would be economically painful to do so.

seems a prudent and simple measure...

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Quickly, off the top of my head: The US ends the child (dependent) tax break if you have more than one kid.  If you want to have eight kids, fine.  But it would be economically painful to do so.

Stop any type of finacial positive for having more than one child, health insurance, medicaid, food stamps, free lunch, financial assistance, school choice, all of it.

You'd have to enforce this worldwide or people would just run to other countries like the Chines do now.

[Elder Iptuous]

Quickly, off the top of my head: The US ends the child (dependent) tax break if you have more than one kid.  If you want to have eight kids, fine.  But it would be economically painful to do so.

Stop any type of finacial positive for having more than one child, health insurance, medicaid, food stamps, free lunch, financial assistance, school choice, all of it.

You'd have to enforce this worldwide or people would just run to other countries like the Chines do now.

that seems like it would be self reinforcing.  if you've got all these immigrants from other countries flooding into yours in order to breed, you are more likely to pass the same type of policy, no?

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Quickly, off the top of my head: The US ends the child (dependent) tax break if you have more than one kid.  If you want to have eight kids, fine.  But it would be economically painful to do so.

Stop any type of finacial positive for having more than one child, health insurance, medicaid, food stamps, free lunch, financial assistance, school choice, all of it.

You'd have to enforce this worldwide or people would just run to other countries like the Chines do now.

that seems like it would be self reinforcing.  if you've got all these immigrants from other countries flooding into yours in order to breed, you are more likely to pass the same type of policy, no?

You would think so but.....  we haven't done it yet.

[Disco Pickle]

Fuck that.  Who the fuck decides THAT?

How do you enforce it?

There's two options.

A) Pass legislation that you can't have a kid without obtaining a license. Enforce it by whatever means necessary with state sanctioned euthanasia for violators and their unsanctioned offspring. EDIT by Pickle

B) Every man woman and child on the face of planet earth is wiped out in a horrendous decades-long holocaust

Those are your choices. (B is the default)

If you're going to say it, just fucking say it P3nt.

the one-child policy in China has some success with only fines, doesn't it?

Yeah, and the rich who can pay the fine just have more kids and pay it.  Those with political connections don't even have to do that.

I was trying to formulate a coherent response P3nt and couldn't get past the brain full of fuck and rage I have for anyone actually advocating state sanctioned sterilizations and or euthanasia.

You can keep that fucking shit.  And the cameras in your home, mandatory doctor examinations and military in the streets it will inevitably require in order to maintain order and compliance so there's no unauthorized "breeders".

Wasn't there a government in recent history that also forcibly sterilized part of it's population?  

[Elder Iptuous]

Pickle, do you think the choice that Pent puts forward is a false dichotomy?
what would you suggest?
because tick tock tick tock

[P3nT4gR4m]

Fuck that.  Who the fuck decides THAT?

How do you enforce it?

There's two options.

A) Pass legislation that you can't have a kid without obtaining a license. Enforce it by whatever means necessary with state sanctioned euthanasia for violators and their unsanctioned offspring. EDIT by Pickle

B) Every man woman and child on the face of planet earth is wiped out in a horrendous decades-long holocaust

Those are your choices. (B is the default)

If you're going to say it, just fucking say it P3nt.

the one-child policy in China has some success with only fines, doesn't it?

Yeah, and the rich who can pay the fine just have more kids and pay it.  Those with political connections don't even have to do that.

I was trying to formulate a coherent response P3nt and couldn't get past the brain full of fuck and rage I have for anyone actually advocating state sanctioned sterilizations and or euthanasia.

You can keep that fucking shit.  And the cameras in your home, mandatory doctor examinations and military in the streets it will inevitably require in order to maintain order and compliance so there's no unauthorized "breeders".

Wasn't there a government in recent history that also forcibly sterilized part of it's population?  

My point illustrated fucking beautifully: You'd rather we all die screaming in agony. Well congrats - because of your stupid fucking shortsighted attitude and the billions like you, you're going to get your wish - we're all going to die. Way to stick up for your principles Einstein