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Started by ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞, September 04, 2011, 09:10:24 PM

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Salty

Eeehhhhhuuuughghg. I DON'T UNNERSTAND.  :argh!:

I read the thingy and must need this game 'cause I can't figure out how to play it.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

LMNO

I'll make it easy.  In a 3-back game, if I give you this string:

ABCADEFD

You would flag ABCADEFD

Because I repeated the letter from three places back. (A--AD--D)

What's weird is that this really seems like a short-term memory drill.  I wonder why that affects LI.


Elder Iptuous

right.  and the 'dual' part of the dual n-back game is that you are doing two of them at the same time.  one visual, and one audio.
it's pretty fucking hard for me. 1-back is easy.  2-back is hard.  and there's people that are doing 7-back successfully, apparently!  :eek:

LMNO,  what's LI?

LMNO

I didn't feel like typing out "Liquid Intelligence".

Elder Iptuous

#19
ah, ok.  i didn't know that was another phrase.  i've only seen the 'Fluid intelligence'.

I would imagine that it is a boon to LI, because it forces you come up with a mental method of achieving a task that you haven't encountered before?  it seems like that would flex fluidity, but i don't know why it would have an unfound upper limit, as suggested in the articles.

In looking into it a bit, it doesn't seem that it is uncontested at all, however.
also, it would seem that there is a subculture out there trying to SCIENCE their way to better brains with amateur application of drills like this and nootropic drugs. (google 'nootropic forum')
which reminds me of a character from a Madman comic...


Triple Zero

Oh god, nootropic fora are horrible. At least, whenever it comes up on hackernews (rarely) or the quick look I had at some nootropics subreddit ... it's basically just kids/college students glorifying amphetamines, mostly. Like a shroomery for smartdrugs.

I'd be surprised if a lot of those nootropic peoples trained their brains as much with games like these, or strict dieting ("brainfood") or anything that actually required effort, as they take drugs. Sure they talk about it a lot, the other methods, but I hear a lot more "when I take Adderal I find that ..." than I heard "... I trained N-back for 3 weeks now and I'm finding ...".
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Rumckle

Quote from: Iptuous on September 12, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
In looking into it a bit, it doesn't seem that it is uncontested at all, however.
also, it would seem that there is a subculture out there trying to SCIENCE their way to better brains with amateur application of drills like this and nootropic drugs.


I'm all for the amateur application of drills
It's not trolling, it's just satire.

Elder Iptuous

i would imagine that there is overlap between this group and the self-trepanation group...
:)

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Rumckle

And thus the greatest troll ever pulled on H+ and Nootropic fans was conceived
It's not trolling, it's just satire.