White people are weird, Or Monkeys being monkeys

[Suu]

Every European is either Celtic, Roman, Greek, Norse, Magyar, Tartar and/or Hun. More than likely some sort of combination of most of those, and have been inbred at least 4 times in their family line, which is why you don't want to talk about it.

But in reality, I just don't think that Europeans share the same interest in genealogy like Americans do. I mean, like what Trip said, his family is from "The clay", they've basically been in the Netherlands for as far back as they know, but most Americans are all transplants at one time or another. Which I think is what makes us so obsessed with it.

[Triple Zero]

I mean, like what Trip said, his family is from "The clay", they've basically been in the Netherlands for as far back as they know my grandmother could be bothered to think about it or as far back as anyone really cared to remember that one time when they looked up the geneaology website or something

Fixed, for the true feelings my family and ancestors have always had about their heritage, ever, since the dawn of times, traditionally.

[Suu]

 

[Doktor Howl]

I'm one of the Whitest people I know, in some ways.  I definitely have a life of privilege, and I was blessed with a first-rate education and an extremely functional upbringing (think Ward & June Cleaver, if June Cleaver also worked).  I'm perilously close to being a "limosine liberal"¹.  The last time I tried to high five someone, I wound up accidentally their nose.

On the other hand - in my defense - I know what I have is based largely on the luck of being born into a well-to-do family, and I also know that I am not entitled to the life I have, or the things I want that I don't yet have.  I know where my food comes from, and what it takes to make it available, and I know that the entire culture that allows me to live like this was built on great huge stacks of the bones of Blacks and Native Americans.  Lastly, I don't view this joke of an Empire as having sovereignty over "lesser" peoples and nations.



¹  In fact, the only thing that keeps me from being a limosine liberal is that I don't believe that all Blacks, Hispanics, etc, are good little children that just need guidance.  They fall in the same behavioral patterns as White people do, and our record on "guidance" isn't really that great.  It is neither needed nor desirable.

[Doktor Howl]

Every European is either Celtic, Roman, Greek, Norse, Magyar, Tartar and/or Hun.

Oddly enough, none of those groups will take credit for the Cornish.

[Suu]

Every European is either Celtic, Roman, Greek, Norse, Magyar, Tartar and/or Hun.

Oddly enough, none of those groups will take credit for the Cornish.

That's because the Cornish and the Welsh sort of came into existence on their own. They materialized out of thin air around 400AD without explanation. There are documented accounts of Roman centurions in the area of what is now St. Ives seeing these horrific hairy men-beasts appear. Fortunately, the Welsh were able to be contained.

[Doktor Howl]

Every European is either Celtic, Roman, Greek, Norse, Magyar, Tartar and/or Hun.

Oddly enough, none of those groups will take credit for the Cornish.

That's because the Cornish and the Welsh sort of came into existence on their own. They materialized out of thin air around 400AD without explanation. There are documented accounts of Roman centurions in the area of what is now St. Ives seeing these horrific hairy men-beasts appear. Fortunately, the Welsh were able to be contained.

Cornish awesomeness HAD to come into existence, to counter the influence of the Welsh.

[Suu]

Precisely, we can't let those extra consonant fuckers running freely around the island, now can we?

[Doktor Howl]

Precisely, we can't let those extra consonant fuckers running freely around the island, now can we?

That's why my forefathers never used consonants.

"OI"  <--- Cornish dictionary.

[Suu]

 

I just had this amazing visual of one of my Norman ancestors standing a top the motte and bailey along the border of Wales and England. A Welshman tries to cross the border, and he's met by a tennis net coming out of the ground and other obnoxious contraptions. Like Normans with baseball bats just thwacking them back across the border.

"AND STAY OUT!"

[Juana]

 

As an European elitist, I automatically find any identity suffixed with -American to be hilarious.

I mean, every white European alive today can, theoretically, claim heritage from Charlemange.  So, like, whatever.

*shrug* Just because they crossed the ocean, doesn't mean they surrendered their culture or didn't pass on bits of it to their descendents or develop an identity based on it and Americanism. The latter is what we did, almost to the point of being stereotypical (cops, boxers, teachers, etc.)

And I agree with Suu's assessment, although personally I tend to be more interested in what happened over here than in Europe (they farmed potatoes or beat up other Europeans. The end).

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Every European is either Celtic, Roman, Greek, Norse, Magyar, Tartar and/or Hun. More than likely some sort of combination of most of those, and have been inbred at least 4 times in their family line, which is why you don't want to talk about it.

But in reality, I just don't think that Europeans share the same interest in genealogy like Americans do. I mean, like what Trip said, his family is from "The clay", they've basically been in the Netherlands for as far back as they know, but most Americans are all transplants at one time or another. Which I think is what makes us so obsessed with it.

This is because Europeans generally have a sense of national identity and cultural history that goes beyond being descended from a band of genocidal colonials. Americans have profound colonial guilt and are seeking authenticity by trying to connect to pre-American ancestors, even though, like all other peoples in the history of the world, their only history and identity that matters began when they settled in a new land.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm one of the Whitest people I know, in some ways.  I definitely have a life of privilege, and I was blessed with a first-rate education and an extremely functional upbringing (think Ward & June Cleaver, if June Cleaver also worked).  I'm perilously close to being a "limosine liberal"¹.  The last time I tried to high five someone, I wound up accidentally their nose.

On the other hand - in my defense - I know what I have is based largely on the luck of being born into a well-to-do family, and I also know that I am not entitled to the life I have, or the things I want that I don't yet have.  I know where my food comes from, and what it takes to make it available, and I know that the entire culture that allows me to live like this was built on great huge stacks of the bones of Blacks and Native Americans.  Lastly, I don't view this joke of an Empire as having sovereignty over "lesser" peoples and nations.



¹  In fact, the only thing that keeps me from being a limosine liberal is that I don't believe that all Blacks, Hispanics, etc, are good little children that just need guidance.  They fall in the same behavioral patterns as White people do, and our record on "guidance" isn't really that great.  It is neither needed nor desirable.

You're the good kind of white people... non-paternalistic and not full of bullshit denial.

[Doktor Howl]

You're the good kind of white people...

BUT WOULD YOU WANT YOUR DAUGHTER TO MARRY ONE?

[East Coast Hustle]

Every European is either Celtic, Roman, Greek, Norse, Magyar, Tartar and/or Hun. More than likely some sort of combination of most of those, and have been inbred at least 4 times in their family line, which is why you don't want to talk about it.

But in reality, I just don't think that Europeans share the same interest in genealogy like Americans do. I mean, like what Trip said, his family is from "The clay", they've basically been in the Netherlands for as far back as they know, but most Americans are all transplants at one time or another. Which I think is what makes us so obsessed with it.

This is because Europeans generally have a sense of national identity and cultural history that goes beyond being descended from a band of genocidal colonials. Americans have profound colonial guilt and are seeking authenticity by trying to connect to pre-American ancestors, even though, like all other peoples in the history of the world, their only history and identity that matters began when they settled in a new land.

I thought it was just because Americans were mostly ignorant yokels who are easily goaded into spending money on shit like Ancestry.com.