Fuck Chuck Yeager in his decomposing eye sockets.

[Doktor Howl]

Anyone ever stop to think of when the last time you saw a science fiction show that wasn't either a billion years in the future, or "Gunsmoke in Space" that didn't make being in space look like a horror movie or corporate swine on parade?

Ever think that this might be deliberate?

Naw.  That would be like shitting on the future.  That would be just completely paranoid.

[Suu]

It worries me that actually going to space will simply free up humanity to finish completely destroying habitability on this planet...

St. Joss Whedon knew this 10 years ago. Including the China bit.

Why oh why don't people listen to science fiction more often?!

[Elder Iptuous]

hmmm. i was certain that i had seen some space-positive sci-fi, but the only stuff i can think of is anime.  no american stuff.

[Doktor Howl]

hmmm. i was certain that i had seen some space-positive sci-fi, but the only stuff i can think of is anime.  no american stuff.

Yep.  It's either Westerns in a funny dress, or it's In Space, Nobody Can Hear You Scream.

[Suu]

That, and asteroids are ALWAYS the bad guys. They do things like fall to the earth and kill Bruce Willis.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It worries me that actually going to space will simply free up humanity to finish completely destroying habitability on this planet...

I'm convinced that's going to happen anyway.

and  if we can't keep AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET habitable, the odds that we'll be able to keep any asteroid outposts habitable are slim.

And then we were extinct.

Yeah, but at least we'd go out in style, instead of wallowing in our own poop.

Oh, no. We'd be wallowing in our own poop, but we'd be doing it in space.

[Doktor Howl]

It worries me that actually going to space will simply free up humanity to finish completely destroying habitability on this planet...

I'm convinced that's going to happen anyway.

and  if we can't keep AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET habitable, the odds that we'll be able to keep any asteroid outposts habitable are slim.

And then we were extinct.

Yeah, but at least we'd go out in style, instead of wallowing in our own poop.

Oh, no. We'd be wallowing in our own poop, but we'd be doing it in space.

At least we'd have Tang.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It worries me that actually going to space will simply free up humanity to finish completely destroying habitability on this planet...

St. Joss Whedon knew this 10 years ago. Including the China bit.

Why oh why don't people listen to science fiction more often?!

Science fiction creates the future.

Seriously. If you want to change things, become a really good writer.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It worries me that actually going to space will simply free up humanity to finish completely destroying habitability on this planet...

I'm convinced that's going to happen anyway.

and  if we can't keep AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET habitable, the odds that we'll be able to keep any asteroid outposts habitable are slim.

And then we were extinct.

Yeah, but at least we'd go out in style, instead of wallowing in our own poop.

Oh, no. We'd be wallowing in our own poop, but we'd be doing it in space.

At least we'd have Tang.

But will we have beer to put in it??

[Doktor Howl]

It worries me that actually going to space will simply free up humanity to finish completely destroying habitability on this planet...

I'm convinced that's going to happen anyway.

and  if we can't keep AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET habitable, the odds that we'll be able to keep any asteroid outposts habitable are slim.

And then we were extinct.

Yeah, but at least we'd go out in style, instead of wallowing in our own poop.

Oh, no. We'd be wallowing in our own poop, but we'd be doing it in space.

At least we'd have Tang.

But will we have beer to put in it??

No, that ruins the "orange poop" effect.

Think about it...You're an alien archaelogist, and you find a vented, ancient space habitat we left behind.  There's frozen, BRIGHT ORANGE POOP all over the place.

They'll worship our memory, Nigel.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

It worries me that actually going to space will simply free up humanity to finish completely destroying habitability on this planet...

I'm convinced that's going to happen anyway.

and  if we can't keep AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET habitable, the odds that we'll be able to keep any asteroid outposts habitable are slim.

And then we were extinct.

Yeah, but at least we'd go out in style, instead of wallowing in our own poop.

Oh, no. We'd be wallowing in our own poop, but we'd be doing it in space.

At least we'd have Tang.

But will we have beer to put in it??

No, that ruins the "orange poop" effect.

Think about it...You're an alien archaelogist, and you find a vented, ancient space habitat we left behind.  There's frozen, BRIGHT ORANGE POOP all over the place.

They'll worship our memory, Nigel.

[Cain]

I think science-fiction got absorbed by the greater wave of dystopian fiction out there.  It's all zombie apocalypses and the planet blowing up and terrorists and killer diseases.  (Our favourite philosopher-troll, Slavoj Zizek, has a somewhat interesting idea as to why that is).

[Doktor Howl]

I think science-fiction got absorbed by the greater wave of dystopian fiction out there.  It's all zombie apocalypses and the planet blowing up and terrorists and killer diseases.  (Our favourite philosopher-troll, Slavoj Zizek, has a somewhat interesting idea as to why that is).

Yeah?

[Triple Zero]

if we can't keep AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET habitable, the odds that we'll be able to keep any asteroid outposts habitable are slim.

I don't quite see how this follows.

At least, given that at some point we'll figure out how to actually live there, it's going to be a lot harder to destroy than a planet. That asteroid belt is huuuuuuge. It's like this ring around the sun, between Jupiter and Mars imagine what the radius on that is? Plus if you wreck one asteroid you don't fuck up all the others, like globelt-warming or something.



There's this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/
though he does go crazy. is a good movie though, I heard (not seen it yet).

Though I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for? It's not exclusively for Space. It's just about every scifi story has the technology either be horrible or cowboys or both. Every Utopia has a dark edge to it. Otherwise it's just a soap drama in space, and you might as well not have it in space?

You want people to go to space in a movie and have everything go right? And then downplay the danger of the vacuum outside the ship?

Maybe a movie for kids, then. About an astronaut going into space, in the near future, where spacesuits are somewhat more comfortable and he discovers the cure for Christmas on the moon?

There's always the Hitch-hiker's Guide movie? It was pretty awesome. And space is real big and friendly and nobody really kills anyone, just like in Tom & Jerry.

Maybe that's the thing though, there used to be aliens everywhere in space. But we're becoming more and more certain that it's probably really really empty as far as we can possibly travel without making generation ships--which are somewhat more like novel material than for movies.

[Cain]

I think science-fiction got absorbed by the greater wave of dystopian fiction out there.  It's all zombie apocalypses and the planet blowing up and terrorists and killer diseases.  (Our favourite philosopher-troll, Slavoj Zizek, has a somewhat interesting idea as to why that is).

Yeah?

Oh, sorry, I realized I should have followed up on that.  Holding two conversations at once is more difficult than I first thought.

Basically, Zizek says, especially since Communism ended and it's been the End of History, Triumph of Liberal Democracy and blah, the idea of a better and different future from the current present has been increasingly hard to envisage.  This has gotten to the point it is actually easier to imagine the entire planet being destroyed than the system changing from what there is now, because to the majority of people's minds, there are no other valid options to what currently exists.

As such, dystopian fiction becomes the only valid form of fiction dealing with change, the distant future etc.  It's the only kind of difference that is considered viable.