Fuck Chuck Yeager in his decomposing eye sockets.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Maybe that's the thing though, there used to be aliens everywhere in space. But we're becoming more and more certain that it's probably really really empty as far as we can possibly travel without making generation ships--which are somewhat more like novel material than for movies.

I think that maybe part of it too. Even 40 years is too long to go to another star, and we don't even know what's there for sure. Too expensive. Let's worry about fixing our problems here on Earth. You know, like the rich not being able to afford to feed their families starving African children because taxes are too high on them. I heard about that on some pundit show. It's terrible that the rich aren't able to eat more African babies. They're not only job creators but they're also helping keep overpopulation down! What are the stars to such problems here. Plus we need the nukes to use on countries that develop nukes to make sure they don't use nukes in the first place. And I blame Obama for that. He gave the Iranians the bomb because he hates Israel like the filthy Muslim that he is.

Twid,
Knows what problem down here actually needs to be fixed first.

[Doktor Howl]

It's terrible that the rich aren't able to eat more African babies.

Correction:  There ARE enough dead babies, but making sure they get transported to the rich's table is a problem that the free market has not yet solved.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

It's terrible that the rich aren't able to eat more African babies.

Correction:  There ARE enough dead babies, but making sure they get transported to the rich's table is a problem that the free market has not yet solved.

It's the gas prices. Michelle Bachmann will fix that by magically decreeing that gas is once more $2 a gallon, and somehow it will happen. I imagine it will involve tapping Christine O'Donnell's magick powers. The Teabaggers won't mind, as I'm sure it involves a lesbian version of the Great Rite. And while we all know that Teabaggers and God hate homos, he made lesbians for a reason. To make middle aged men horny. Which is a good thing.

[Don Coyote]

Why the FUCK!!!!!!!!

Humanity is just fucked eh?

[Kai]

Wait...you guys think earth is going to be uninhabitable, compared to what? Constant cosmic radiation and temperature fluxes in hundreds of degrees kelvin whenever the sun isn't visible and no air or water or ecosystem services or van allen belts or ozone layer or soil seeded with a 3 billion year old complex of decomposition masters?

You can have your dead, inhopsitable exoplanets. I'll just stay here on this amazing living planet until the sun goes red giant, thank you very much. Grass is always fucking greener on the other side...except in this case, the green is a frozen chlorine/ammonia mixture.

[The Rev]

Dok, they are going to kill me for telling you this, but I just can't keep quiet any longer, the truth has to come out.

There were no bailouts. All of that money was channeled into an international superfund that was created to exit certain people from this planet. The space program is very much alive and well, it is simply operating in secrecy as the elite class are being relocated to prepared location throughout the universe. All the rest about shutting down the space program is all a smokescreen.

The banks and the rich are really the good guys, they are the ones who will save humanity. I know you haven't heard yet, but this planet is already doomed. Yeah, the damage is irreversable now, it's just too late. The asteroid the Russians discovered, you remember, the one that should be a miss, well, it won't be a miss at all.

In fact, the situation is much worse that even the models predicted, we are talking complete destruction, no chance of recovery. Ever. Oddly, this will occur sometime in 2012, but not on the day the Mayan's record ended, no, I'm afraid we don't have that much time.

So, now you know why no one is trying to fix anything, they have far larger problems to be concerned with.

Well, they will be here any second, I can hear the boots on the porch, so

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

if we can't keep AN ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET habitable, the odds that we'll be able to keep any asteroid outposts habitable are slim.

I don't quite see how this follows.

At least, given that at some point we'll figure out how to actually live there, it's going to be a lot harder to destroy than a planet. That asteroid belt is huuuuuuge. It's like this ring around the sun, between Jupiter and Mars imagine what the radius on that is? Plus if you wreck one asteroid you don't fuck up all the others, like globelt-warming or something.



There's this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/
though he does go crazy. is a good movie though, I heard (not seen it yet).

Though I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for? It's not exclusively for Space. It's just about every scifi story has the technology either be horrible or cowboys or both. Every Utopia has a dark edge to it. Otherwise it's just a soap drama in space, and you might as well not have it in space?

You want people to go to space in a movie and have everything go right? And then downplay the danger of the vacuum outside the ship?

Maybe a movie for kids, then. About an astronaut going into space, in the near future, where spacesuits are somewhat more comfortable and he discovers the cure for Christmas on the moon?

There's always the Hitch-hiker's Guide movie? It was pretty awesome. And space is real big and friendly and nobody really kills anyone, just like in Tom & Jerry.

Maybe that's the thing though, there used to be aliens everywhere in space. But we're becoming more and more certain that it's probably really really empty as far as we can possibly travel without making generation ships--which are somewhat more like novel material than for movies.

... the planet started out habitable. It's already a self-contained, fully self-sustaining system without us having to do anything at all. We'd have to live in man-made habitats in space, and, given our track record, well...

The thing is, here on Earth we could just keep right on cruising along for millions of years, presuming we get smart enough not to kill ourselves off. This planet isn't expiring anytime soon, and really, all we have to do is not fuck it all up for ourselves and we'll be just fine.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Wait...you guys think earth is going to be uninhabitable, compared to what? Constant cosmic radiation and temperature fluxes in hundreds of degrees kelvin whenever the sun isn't visible and no air or water or ecosystem services or van allen belts or ozone layer or soil seeded with a 3 billion year old complex of decomposition masters?

You can have your dead, inhopsitable exoplanets. I'll just stay here on this amazing living planet until the sun goes red giant, thank you very much. Grass is always fucking greener on the other side...except in this case, the green is a frozen chlorine/ammonia mixture.

Plus, this.

[Doktor Howl]

... the planet started out habitable. It's already a self-contained, fully self-sustaining system without us having to do anything at all. We'd have to live in man-made habitats in space, and, given our track record, well...

The thing is, here on Earth we could just keep right on cruising along for millions of years, presuming we get smart enough not to kill ourselves off. This planet isn't expiring anytime soon, and really, all we have to do is not fuck it all up for ourselves and we'll be just fine.

HEY, ALLAYOUS MONKEYS!  DON'T FUCK THIS SHIT UP, OKAY?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I mean, how long do we have to get it right before the planet becomes inhospitable due to the sun's expansion? About a billion years, minimum?

A billion years. We only started using sharp rocks what, three million years ago?

If we can somehow just not kill ourselves off, I think odds are whatever our descendants have evolved into can make it into space by then, if we really want to.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

... the planet started out habitable. It's already a self-contained, fully self-sustaining system without us having to do anything at all. We'd have to live in man-made habitats in space, and, given our track record, well...

The thing is, here on Earth we could just keep right on cruising along for millions of years, presuming we get smart enough not to kill ourselves off. This planet isn't expiring anytime soon, and really, all we have to do is not fuck it all up for ourselves and we'll be just fine.

HEY, ALLAYOUS MONKEYS!  DON'T FUCK THIS SHIT UP, OKAY?

I just hope to hell we evolve faster than we're able to kill our own stupid asses off, and that future descendants of humans say shit like "Industrial Man was a brutish, violent, filthy creature with a large brain case but very limited cognitive ability and almost no foresight compared to modern humans".

[Doktor Howl]

I mean, how long do we have to get it right before the planet becomes inhospitable due to the sun's expansion? About a billion years, minimum?

A billion years. We only started using sharp rocks what, three million years ago?

If we can somehow just not kill ourselves off, I think odds are whatever our descendants have evolved into can make it into space by then, if we really want to.

To avoid killing ourselves off, we're going to need to do something about our population.

Interesting note:  At the world's first "Earth Summit", 30 years back, nobody was even allowed to SAY the word "population" because it might offend people religiously.

This species is a dead end.  Intelligence seems to be a fatal mutation.

[Cain]

Anything more than a four degree rise in temperature, and we're going to have serious problems surviving as a species in large and sophisticated enough societies to undertake space travel.

That's my concern.

[Doktor Howl]

Anything more than a four degree rise in temperature, and we're going to have serious problems surviving as a species in large and sophisticated enough societies to undertake space travel.

That's my concern.

Rises in temperature tend to fling back into ice ages, and we have already demonstrated that - as a species - we can survive those.

And then it's just another 6,000 years or so before we figure out how to build cities again.  Rinse, repeat.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I mean, how long do we have to get it right before the planet becomes inhospitable due to the sun's expansion? About a billion years, minimum?

A billion years. We only started using sharp rocks what, three million years ago?

If we can somehow just not kill ourselves off, I think odds are whatever our descendants have evolved into can make it into space by then, if we really want to.

To avoid killing ourselves off, we're going to need to do something about our population.

Interesting note:  At the world's first "Earth Summit", 30 years back, nobody was even allowed to SAY the word "population" because it might offend people religiously.

This species is a dead end.  Intelligence seems to be a fatal mutation.

I hope this species isn't a dead end. I mean, we're still monkeys, and we act like it, but I hope we're still a viable link on the evolutionary chain, to be eventually replaced by descendants who are more cooperative and less competitive. If we evolved into a more cooperative species with some foresight, we'd feed and educate people instead of burning villages to steal oil, and instead of having famine-riddled continents full of dying babies we'd have well-fed people who read and use contraceptives.