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an argument for a deflationary policy in the You Ess of Heeeeey

Started by Disco Pickle, September 06, 2010, 07:57:12 PM

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Doktor Howl

All these adjustments.

Seems to me that if capitalism were a car, it would be a Fiat.

Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

 :lulz:

I've actually always thought of it more as an art than a science.

"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Phox

Quote from: Disco Pickle on October 06, 2011, 03:38:40 PM
:lulz:

I've actually always thought of it more as an art than a science.



Ah. So that makes you Andres Serrano, right?  :lulz:

Triple Zero

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2011, 03:33:25 PM
All these adjustments.

Seems to me that if capitalism were a car, it would be a Fiat.


a Fiat Currency?
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

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Disco Pickle

Quote from: Doktor Phox on October 06, 2011, 03:44:35 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on October 06, 2011, 03:38:40 PM
:lulz:

I've actually always thought of it more as an art than a science.



Ah. So that makes you Andres Serrano, right?  :lulz:

:lulz:

The walls just aren't quite the shade of brown I like yet.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

"sometimes someone confesses a sin in order to take credit for it." -- John Von Neumann

Freeky

Quote from: Disco Pickle on October 06, 2011, 02:44:37 PM
I read Krugman.  I don't mind his politics, I'm sure he has his reasons for them.  I do not often agree with his economics.

But I still read what he writes, because he is a smart guy, and there should be room for disagreement on economic theory.

Hey Trip, your reply goes a long way toward confirming my belief that PD has more dicks than a 70's gang bang porno.  Probably more hair too.

I'm having a fucking fantastic day, btw.  Most of them are.

I wash my hands of you, you obnoxious scumbag.  Go die in a fire and roast in hell.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2011, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2011, 03:33:25 PM
All these adjustments.

Seems to me that if capitalism were a car, it would be a Fiat.


a Fiat Currency?

OH, THAT'S THE ABSOLUTE LIMIT!  :crankey:
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Disco Pickle on October 06, 2011, 02:44:37 PM
Probably more hair too.

I was gonna argue that, but then I thought of my entire body below the neck.

Molon Lube

Elder Iptuous


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2011, 11:18:10 AM
how the fuck is the rampant fraud and the not-quite-fraudulent carelessness and the politicians that are bought and owned by wall street to do nothing about it, how is that a monetary problem and not a regulatory one??

Our government has always been as crooked as Ron Jeremy's dick.  The problem isn't the crooks.  The problem isn't production.  

The problem is that our method of counting production is utterly upside down.

Let me say that in a different way:  The problem is entirely in our heads.  Our money is based on the idea that it's worth something.  We've come to trust that idea to the point where a pack of fat bastards can manipulate numbers - not reality, but numbers - to the point where they get all the benefits of production, and the rest of us swirl around the toilet bowl.

Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Iptuous on October 06, 2011, 04:41:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2011, 04:38:38 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2011, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2011, 03:33:25 PM
All these adjustments.

Seems to me that if capitalism were a car, it would be a Fiat.


a Fiat Currency?

OH, THAT'S THE ABSOLUTE LIMIT!  :crankey:
Wait.... that wasn't intended?!
:eek:

No.

Ever known someone who owned a Fiat?  Not the happiest fuckers in the world, are they?

BUT THEN I GOT OWNED BY A BELGIAN.  :madbanana:
Molon Lube

Triple Zero

So how would you stop this thing where they wrap complicated stock option asset financial constructions in even more complicated things to evade regulations? They just make it complex enough until the risks are obfuscated enough and preferably won't come crashing down before the stockmonkey that invented it gets to retire.

If you don't regulate those things and let supply and demand flow its course, then people are completely free to run the most complex scams as they like, and these are not scams for suckers because they can really wrap them up until nobody (sometimes not even themselves) can fully comprehend the risk any more, in a very similar way that a skilled evil hacker with a 0-day exploit is dangerous to everybody and not just the suckers.

Right?



Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
BUT THEN I GOT OWNED BY A BELGIAN.  :madbanana:

Heeheehee :)
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

kingyak

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2011, 04:43:58 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2011, 11:18:10 AM
how the fuck is the rampant fraud and the not-quite-fraudulent carelessness and the politicians that are bought and owned by wall street to do nothing about it, how is that a monetary problem and not a regulatory one??

Our government has always been as crooked as Ron Jeremy's dick.  The problem isn't the crooks.  The problem isn't production.  

The problem is that our method of counting production is utterly upside down.

Let me say that in a different way:  The problem is entirely in our heads.  Our money is based on the idea that it's worth something.  We've come to trust that idea to the point where a pack of fat bastards can manipulate numbers - not reality, but numbers - to the point where they get all the benefits of production, and the rest of us swirl around the toilet bowl.

^
Yes. This.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."-HST

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Triple Zero on October 06, 2011, 05:18:45 PM
So how would you stop this thing where they wrap complicated stock option asset financial constructions in even more complicated things to evade regulations? They just make it complex enough until the risks are obfuscated enough and preferably won't come crashing down before the stockmonkey that invented it gets to retire.

If you don't regulate those things and let supply and demand flow its course, then people are completely free to run the most complex scams as they like, and these are not scams for suckers because they can really wrap them up until nobody (sometimes not even themselves) can fully comprehend the risk any more, in a very similar way that a skilled evil hacker with a 0-day exploit is dangerous to everybody and not just the suckers.

Right?



Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 06, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
BUT THEN I GOT OWNED BY A BELGIAN.  :madbanana:

Heeheehee :)

Well, the truly libertarian option would be for the government to stop printing money entirely...
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Doktor Howl

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