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How the White House decides who to assassinate

Started by Cain, October 06, 2011, 06:27:16 PM

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Cain

Well, by committee of course.  Did you expect anything less?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-cia-killlist-idUSTRE79475C20111005

QuoteAmerican militants like Anwar al-Awlaki are placed on a kill or capture list by a secretive panel of senior government officials, which then informs the president of its decisions . . . . There is no public record of the operations or decisions of the panel, which is a subset of the White House's National Security Council . . . . Neither is there any law establishing its existence or setting out the rules by which it is supposed to operate. . . . The role of the president in ordering or ratifying a decision to target a citizen is fuzzy. White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined to discuss anything about the process. . . .

    Representative Dutch Ruppersberger, was asked by reporters about the killing.  The process involves "going through the National Security Council, then it eventually goes to the president" . . . .Other officials said the role of the president in the process was murkier than what Ruppersberger described. They said targeting recommendations are drawn up by a committee of mid-level National Security Council and agency officials. Their recommendations are then sent to the panel of NSC "principals," meaning Cabinet secretaries and intelligence unit chiefs, for approval . . .  But one official said Obama would be notified of the principals' decision. If he objected, the decision would be nullified, the official said.

Or, as Salon more eloquently put it:

QuoteSo a panel operating out of the White House — that meets in total secrecy, with no known law or rules governing what it can do or how it operates — is empowered to place American citizens on a list to be killed by the CIA, which (by some process nobody knows) eventually makes its way to the President, who is the final Decider.  It is difficult to describe the level of warped authoritarianism necessary to cause someone to lend their support to a twisted Star Chamber like that; I genuinely wonder whether the Good Democrats doing so actually first convince themselves that if this were the Bush White House's hit list, or if it becomes Rick Perry's, they would be supportive just the same.  Seriously: if you're willing to endorse having White House functionaries meet in secret — with no known guidelines, no oversight, no transparency — and compile lists of American citizens to be killed by the CIA without due process, what aren't you willing to support?

Doktor Howl

Well, it's a proven, tested method, right?  The mafia has been doing this since the 50s.
Molon Lube

Cain


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cain on October 06, 2011, 06:36:08 PM
I keep thinking we should rename this forum Charles Tilly Was Right

I support this.

Or "The Charles Tilly/Smedley Butler Society".
Molon Lube

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To add to the horror, this isn't likely to be changed or even addressed because in this era of the eternal campaign season, politicians wouldn't want to look soft on terrorism.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Net on October 06, 2011, 06:38:51 PM
To add to the horror, this isn't likely to be changed or even addressed because in this era of the eternal campaign season, politicians wouldn't want to look soft on terrorism.

Or soft on crime, etc, etc, ook ook.
Molon Lube

Cain

I found a nest of Democrats who support this, if anyone wants to have some fun

hxxp://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/10/06/i-liked-this-movie-better-when-it-starred-hal-holbrook/

The OP is fine, it's the comments.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Jasper

If Hunter S was alive today, he'd shoot the kneecaps off this in a heartbeat.  :(