Imagine, by Ron Paul

[Khore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73FabiUl9k
Great. A peaceful politic is the best option, because the job of the politics is to prevent war and promote for peace.
Although I prefer to cooperate to have to attack or defend myself even if they want to rob me.

[Khore]

Maybe not in the proper section, move if necessary.

[Cain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73FabiUl9k
Great. A peaceful politic is the best option, because the job of the politics is to prevent war and promote for peace.
Although I prefer to cooperate to have to attack or defend myself even if they want to rob me.

Let's just say that's a wildly optimistic view of politics, whether it's politics as actually practiced or meant to be a prescriptive view.

The role of politics is to maintain a particular configuration or distribution of power and control within a given society.  Therefore, the job often involves rising to power and casting down all your enemies.  Politics only makes sense when you accept that politicians are striving for power, and that this power has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the community.  Ron Paul is no different in this, despite his rhetoric.

Basically, what I'm saying is Bueno de Mesquita owns Poli Sci.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

While I like his 2012 campaign platform, Ron Paul is a scary scary man.

[Suu]

I don't like him. I don't trust him. He's anti-choice, anti-students, anti-gay...No. That asshole is NOT getting my vote. I'm safer voting for Obama again if I still want to get my masters and get treated at Planned Parenthood.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Maybe I have just been under a rock, but I am not familiar with that definition of gerrymandering.

[Khore]

I don't like him. I don't trust him. He's anti-choice, anti-students, anti-gay...No. That asshole is NOT getting my vote. I'm safer voting for Obama again if I still want to get my masters and get treated at Planned Parenthood.

I miss you to put an "Ironic mode on"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73FabiUl9k
Great. A peaceful politic is the best option, because the job of the politics is to prevent war and promote for peace.
Although I prefer to cooperate to have to attack or defend myself even if they want to rob me.

Let's just say that's a wildly optimistic view of politics, whether it's politics as actually practiced or meant to be a prescriptive view.

The role of politics is to maintain a particular configuration or distribution of power and control within a given society.  Therefore, the job often involves rising to power and casting down all your enemies.  Politics only makes sense when you accept that politicians are striving for power, and that this power has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the community.  Ron Paul is no different in this, despite his rhetoric.

Basically, what I'm saying is Bueno de Mesquita owns Poli Sci.

You are right. They are tyrans, not politicians. Indeed they will mantein the status quo with no freedom. Except of Ron Paul? Can Ron Paul act with freedom according to what he says in his videos in this tyrannical society of control?

[Suu]

Maybe I have just been under a rock, but I am not familiar with that definition of gerrymandering.

I was told it could mean two things:

Primarily changing political boundaries to win votes
Using political platforms and buzzwords to win votes

It has to do with manipulating votes as a whole. I could be wrong, though. 

[Cain]

I don't like him. I don't trust him. He's anti-choice, anti-students, anti-gay...No. That asshole is NOT getting my vote. I'm safer voting for Obama again if I still want to get my masters and get treated at Planned Parenthood.

I miss you to put an "Ironic mode on"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73FabiUl9k
Great. A peaceful politic is the best option, because the job of the politics is to prevent war and promote for peace.
Although I prefer to cooperate to have to attack or defend myself even if they want to rob me.

Let's just say that's a wildly optimistic view of politics, whether it's politics as actually practiced or meant to be a prescriptive view.

The role of politics is to maintain a particular configuration or distribution of power and control within a given society.  Therefore, the job often involves rising to power and casting down all your enemies.  Politics only makes sense when you accept that politicians are striving for power, and that this power has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the community.  Ron Paul is no different in this, despite his rhetoric.

Basically, what I'm saying is Bueno de Mesquita owns Poli Sci.

You are right. They are tyrans, not politicians. Indeed they will mantein the status quo with no freedom. Except of Ron Paul? Can Ron Paul act with freedom according to what he says in his videos in this tyrannical society of control?

No, he can't.

[Khore]

I don't like him. I don't trust him. He's anti-choice, anti-students, anti-gay...No. That asshole is NOT getting my vote. I'm safer voting for Obama again if I still want to get my masters and get treated at Planned Parenthood.

I miss you to put an "Ironic mode on"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m73FabiUl9k
Great. A peaceful politic is the best option, because the job of the politics is to prevent war and promote for peace.
Although I prefer to cooperate to have to attack or defend myself even if they want to rob me.

Let's just say that's a wildly optimistic view of politics, whether it's politics as actually practiced or meant to be a prescriptive view.

The role of politics is to maintain a particular configuration or distribution of power and control within a given society.  Therefore, the job often involves rising to power and casting down all your enemies.  Politics only makes sense when you accept that politicians are striving for power, and that this power has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the community.  Ron Paul is no different in this, despite his rhetoric.

Basically, what I'm saying is Bueno de Mesquita owns Poli Sci.

You are right. They are tyrans, not politicians. Indeed they will mantein the status quo with no freedom. Except of Ron Paul? Can Ron Paul act with freedom according to what he says in his videos in this tyrannical society of control?

No, he can't.

You are right, again but leave a maybe, just in case.

[LMNO]

Possible =/= probable.  As the probablity approaches zero, then it makes no sense, pragmatically, to consider it actually possible.

[Khore]

Possible =/= probable.  As the probablity approaches zero, then it makes no sense, pragmatically, to consider it actually possible.

Yes but, like the "15M" or the "Occupy" was becoming likely due to new forms of communication, political or perhaps new forms of politics and more honest will emerge and will become increasingly popular as we become more aware and therefore we get closer the new truth of the majority.

Sí pero, igual que el 15M o el "Occupy" se fue haciendo probable gracias a las nuevas formas de comunicación, quizás nuevos políticos o formas de hacer política más honestas iran surgiendo e irán adquiriendo popularidad a medida que nos hagamos más conscientes y por tanto nos vayamos acercando a la nueva verdad de la mayoría.

[LMNO]

Don't shift the goalposts.  We were talking about Ron Paul.


No cambie las reglas del juego. Estábamos hablando de Ron Paul.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Maybe I have just been under a rock, but I am not familiar with that definition of gerrymandering.

I was told it could mean two things:

Primarily changing political boundaries to win votes
Using political platforms and buzzwords to win votes

It has to do with manipulating votes as a whole. I could be wrong, though. 

I have not seen or heard the latter use, and couldn't find it in any of the definitions I looked up. I would find it odd if a word with a very clear political meaning was also used to describe the act of political misrepresentation or lying to voters.

[Khore]

Don't shift the goalposts.  We were talking about Ron Paul.


No cambie las reglas del juego. Estábamos hablando de Ron Paul.

Yes, Ron Paul says a lot of cool things, like free of drugs, free of prostitution, free of gays and lesbians... "troops to home", i like him, it appears to me like a peaceful Politician, a good politician. Libertarian politician. I dont know if he is going to do it, or if he would do what he thinks. I only wait for it. The rules of the game maybe change constantly, and we can only see the changes over time.