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Started by Dildo Argentino, January 05, 2012, 08:10:05 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 04:48:20 PM

they are arbitrary conventions with interesting history

Cain is a very, very arbitrary person.  As are many of us.

In addition, as has been repeatedly stated, it's been done.  It's "weirdness" for sissies who lack the creativity, the vision, and - yes - even the balls to go full-bore freak.

It is the Vanilla Ice of strangeness.  It is the Big Bill Broonzy of weird.  It's pretentious posing that is no fucking different than Prince changing his name to a symbol (which, be warned, led to him joining Scientology).

It's, well, boring.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cramulus

Like I said -- word to the wise -- if you get defensive about posting in a style that annoys people, don't be surprised when people get annoyed at you instead of your style. You can lament that the crowd here is not enlightened enough to get over it, but if you think it's an arbitrary convention, why be stubborn about it? Doing the opposite of a convention is still a form of conventionalism.

The caps thing really isn't a big deal to me, believe me. And if you really LIKE arguing about whether or not the medium impacts the message, people here will be glad to indulge you. It's really your call what you want to talk about. Just don't be surprised or disappointed when people give you negative feedback about it.


AFK

Yeah, it is rather arbitrary to get in a tizzy over punctuation and capitalization.  I mean, if we understand what you are intending to communicate, we should be good.

But, getting into a pointless discussion about that on either side is going to be counterproductive. 

So even if you think you are right, and even if you are right, I dunno, might not be much point in going any further with it. 

Just accept it as a quirk of this place,and there are many quirks as there are with any culture, internet or otherwise. 

Besides, we may be Discordians, but even Discordians are still human.  Well, except for Iason, but let's not go there. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 04:59:33 PM
okay but i reckon it will wear off, and, i think it is still an interesting question, why does it have this effect?

Because it's annoying as fuck.

TGRR,
Full of useful information.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Well, I just thought about it, and fuck Holist.  I didn't volunteer to be a fucking guinea pig for his "experiment" (that's offensive as hell, when you think about it), and whether or not he has anything to say is irrelevant, if he chooses not to say it in an intelligible manner. 

He insists that he should write in a manner that would shame a 3rd grade school child?  Okay.  I don't feel the need to read it. 

You guys can keep humoring this fuckwit. I'm out.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:35:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phoxero on January 06, 2012, 07:29:40 AM
See, and here's the thing about this. Not only have you missed the point entirely, you are again, ignoring the fact that as a newcomer here, you are completely unaware of the context and history that the poster you have quoted as in conjunction with homeopathy.

Downtalking and taking personally a comment that was clearly defined as a joke that had literally nothing to do with you and everything to do with previous and unrelated experiences are also not good ways to have a pleasant stay here.

fair enough, i stand corrected

no offence meant, i am fully ignorant myself and view it as a preferable outlook to most anything

do explain, though, why the cognitive bias of a large, already entrenched group is to have preference over the cognitive bias of the newcomer?

in the light of my remarks on hospitality models, if possible

thanks

How many people have posted in this thread?

How many have commented on your punctuational deficit?

Be skeptical of anyone who speaks for a group. Let alone a "large" group, lest you find yourself making assumptions that turn out to be foundless.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: holist on January 06, 2012, 07:39:29 AM
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 05, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: holist on January 05, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
The thing is, I really do like writing like that... but I figure I'll try to be curteous and write my response in txt and before I copy it over to the PD forum I correct the capitalisation and the punctuation - which, I suppose, is a technological solution to a social problem.


We once had a poster here who decjded jt would be a great mjndfuck jf she replaced all jnstances of the letter i wjth the letter j. Maybe we're jdjots for bejng jmpatjent wjth her, but maybe she should have put some effort jnto bejng understood, you djg?

Nobody cares jf you mjsspell some stuff or mjss caps now and then. But dojng jt jntentjonally js kjnd of ljke postjng jn ljght yellow, or some jllegjble font.

It's also manufactured weird, which is inferior to the regular kind that mom used to make.

Yeah, it falls pretty squarely into the "trying too hard" category of outlandishness. Also the "look at meeeeee" category.

the very fact that several of you jump so readily on such a trifle makes me suspect that you are often bored here and are not getting the standard of conversation you had been hoping for... and there's naive me, thinking a forum populated by discordians would fare better than... whatever

and anyways, it is not meant to be weird or outlandish, and neither is it particularly novel... :) entire novels have been written without capitals, several decades ago, even... so fuck curtesy

for the kind person inquiring about the kids: it is a patchwork family. I brought three boys while she brought a girl and a boy to this marriage

then, irresponsible and thrill-seeking breeders that we are, we went and had a baby - no regrets so far

That kind person was me. I have three kids, myself.

And my idle commentary about the outlandishness was just that; idle commentary, as appropriate in the idle chatter sub. Go participate in other threads if you want intellectual stimulation, there have been some good discussions lately.

Or just stay here and bicker in this thread that's all about you if you're not interested in high-quality conversation; it's up to you.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.

Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?

Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Don Coyote

Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.

Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?

Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.

It's because this noob is obviously digging its heels in, and screeching, if not trolling. I'll pay attention to it if it decides to stop being "zany"

The Good Reverend Roger

#69
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.

Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?

Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.

Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948

If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.

Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?

Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.

Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948

If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.

Yes, he did say it, in response to my own completely unnecessary contribution to the snark (which I posted AFTER he said he would stop back on page 2) after how many pages of people jumping his shit?

As far as I can tell this guy is fairly interesting and has things to say, for a welcome change from the TOTSEtards. Maybe if we give him a little bit of breathing room instead of instantly jumping up, pounding our chests, and putting him on the defensive, he'll unwind and see the point of making his posts as legible as possible. Maybe not. But it seems like the post-TOTSE PD standard is "Fuck the 50 post suggestion, SCREEEEECH!"
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.

Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?

Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.

Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948

If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.

Yes, he did say it, in response to my own completely unnecessary contribution to the snark (which I posted AFTER he said he would stop back on page 2) after how many pages of people jumping his shit?

As far as I can tell this guy is fairly interesting and has things to say, for a welcome change from the TOTSEtards. Maybe if we give him a little bit of breathing room instead of instantly jumping up, pounding our chests, and putting him on the defensive, he'll unwind and see the point of making his posts as legible as possible. Maybe not. But it seems like the post-TOTSE PD standard is "Fuck the 50 post suggestion, SCREEEEECH!"

Possibly. 

But I'm not his lab rat.  Or maybe I am, you know, with this reaction...Maybe I'm that one rat that bites all the other rats and foams at the fucking mouth and sprays my horribly infected semen through the bars of the cage or whatnot.  But I don't believe in treating people like test subjects without their permission, and I won't stand for it myself.

So he waltzes in, a tiny bit annoying, and then announces his "cultural experiment", which - aside from the implied insult - is simply bad science, as it influences the reactions of we poor rodents, as can be seen from a half-dozen pages of bile.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.

Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?

Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.

You really call this shitting?  We offered advice, explained our actions rationally, and even did a bit of self introspection regarding our syntax use. 

Part of the 50 post suggestion is to offer advice ("Hey, just a heads up: When you post that way, some of us think it gets in the way of any message you might have") without simply flaming them.

holist defending his use of language is fine, but it does prompt us to respond in turn.  I haven't seen anything openly hostile.

Hell, we've even suggested he stop posting in this thread and move to a new one, so we can change the subject and see what kind of things he has to say.

Plus, the guy's at 44 posts by now.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 06, 2012, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pope Pastor Wolf-Something-Or-Other on January 06, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Well this noob is shitcanned as far as I am concerned.

Why? Because half of the asstard n00bs here can't refrain from playing "let's shit on the newest n00b"?

Fuck the 50-post suggestion, right? Gentle courtesy is for HOMOS.

Actually, Nigel, it was Holist who said "fuck curtusy (sic)"

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,31273.msg1133948.html#msg1133948

If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.

Yes, he did say it, in response to my own completely unnecessary contribution to the snark (which I posted AFTER he said he would stop back on page 2) after how many pages of people jumping his shit?

As far as I can tell this guy is fairly interesting and has things to say, for a welcome change from the TOTSEtards. Maybe if we give him a little bit of breathing room instead of instantly jumping up, pounding our chests, and putting him on the defensive, he'll unwind and see the point of making his posts as legible as possible. Maybe not. But it seems like the post-TOTSE PD standard is "Fuck the 50 post suggestion, SCREEEEECH!"

Possibly. 

But I'm not his lab rat.  Or maybe I am, you know, with this reaction...Maybe I'm that one rat that bites all the other rats and foams at the fucking mouth and sprays my horribly infected semen through the bars of the cage or whatnot.  But I don't believe in treating people like test subjects without their permission, and I won't stand for it myself.

So he waltzes in, a tiny bit annoying, and then announces his "cultural experiment", which - aside from the implied insult - is simply bad science, as it influences the reactions of we poor rodents, as can be seen from a half-dozen pages of bile.

What happened is he pushed our buttons

and we screeched

and he screeched back.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on January 06, 2012, 07:14:40 PM
What happened is he pushed our buttons

and we screeched

and he screeched back.

So he's getting what he wanted.

I fail to see the problem, here.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.