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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

February 08, 2012, 07:11:57 AM
Being in school now is amazing, for one primary reason, and that reason is that I am receiving validation now for the ideas I had when I was in school 20 years ago that were dismissed. Worker alienation, corporate manipulation, the impossibility of endless corporate growth, the emergence of the imperial police state... all these ideas won me nothing but scoffing and mockery 20 years ago, but are now completely accepted as facts of the current breakdown. And, as awful as it is, I love it all, because it means that if those outrageous ideas of my 20-year-old-self are real and valid, than so, quite likely, are the other ideas.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Cuddlefish

#1
February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#2
February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Cuddlefish

#3
February 09, 2012, 12:01:27 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.

Also that.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

The Good Reverend Roger

#4
February 09, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.

?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Elder Iptuous

#5
February 09, 2012, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.

?

Fucked in the manner that she was previously ridiculed for saying, but now is vindicated by academic agreement...

The Good Reverend Roger

#6
February 09, 2012, 12:24:48 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 09, 2012, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.

?

Fucked in the manner that she was previously ridiculed for saying, but now is vindicated by academic agreement...

Given time, even academics have to face reality.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Elder Iptuous

#7
February 09, 2012, 01:47:02 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:24:48 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 09, 2012, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.

?

Fucked in the manner that she was previously ridiculed for saying, but now is vindicated by academic agreement...

Given time, even academics have to face reality.

Indeed.  the ivory tower can only protect against the rising tide for so long...

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#8
February 10, 2012, 10:56:42 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 07:11:57 AM
Being in school now is amazing, for one primary reason, and that reason is that I am receiving validation now for the ideas I had when I was in school 20 years ago that were dismissed. Worker alienation, corporate manipulation, the impossibility of endless corporate growth, the emergence of the imperial police state... all these ideas won me nothing but scoffing and mockery 20 years ago, but are now completely accepted as facts of the current breakdown. And, as awful as it is, I love it all, because it means that if those outrageous ideas of my 20-year-old-self are real and valid, than so, quite likely, are the other ideas.

:awesome:

The economy was too good for people accept the truth.

And, the information age is transforming the world in a way that is only somewhat comparable to the effects of Gutenburg's printing press.

It fits for me that you were a very early and savvy participant in internet culture AND reached highly accurate conclusions about the world before reality started ripping through the wool people have been pulling over their eyes for 20 years.
P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#9
February 10, 2012, 04:19:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:24:48 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 09, 2012, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.

?

Fucked in the manner that she was previously ridiculed for saying, but now is vindicated by academic agreement...

Given time, even academics have to face reality.

I used to get REAMED for my assertion that women mass-joining the workforce was a major contributing factor to wage stagnation and unemployment. I was like "BUT YOU CAN'T JUST INCREASE THE WORKFORCE BY 60% WITHOUT ECONOMIC RAMIFICATIONS" and they were all "THAT'S SEXIST!"

:facepalm:

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

navkat

#10
February 10, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 07:11:57 AM
Being in school now is amazing, for one primary reason, and that reason is that I am receiving validation now for the ideas I had when I was in school 20 years ago that were dismissed. Worker alienation, corporate manipulation, the impossibility of endless corporate growth, the emergence of the imperial police state... all these ideas won me nothing but scoffing and mockery 20 years ago, but are now completely accepted as facts of the current breakdown. And, as awful as it is, I love it all, because it means that if those outrageous ideas of my 20-year-old-self are real and valid, than so, quite likely, are the other ideas.

Girl, I am FEELIN' you, dog. In SOOOO many ways. Not just my recent success, but this tinfoil hat I've been wearing since I was 19? Yeah, people ain't so quick to slap that shit off my head anymore...unless it's to steal it for themselves.

Let my 19-year-old, batshit, know-it-all, neo-beatnik, anti-corporatist self personally validate you for LYFE.

The Good Reverend Roger

#11
February 10, 2012, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 10, 2012, 04:19:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:24:48 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on February 09, 2012, 12:15:42 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 09, 2012, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 08, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
Isn't it great?! I had a similar experience when I went back to school.

It's real nice. :)

Even though everything is fucked.

?

Fucked in the manner that she was previously ridiculed for saying, but now is vindicated by academic agreement...

Given time, even academics have to face reality.

I used to get REAMED for my assertion that women mass-joining the workforce was a major contributing factor to wage stagnation and unemployment. I was like "BUT YOU CAN'T JUST INCREASE THE WORKFORCE BY 60% WITHOUT ECONOMIC RAMIFICATIONS" and they were all "THAT'S SEXIST!"

:facepalm:

Ideology doesn't change reality.

Some people never learn that.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#12
February 10, 2012, 04:43:18 PM
Quote from: navkat on February 10, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 08, 2012, 07:11:57 AM
Being in school now is amazing, for one primary reason, and that reason is that I am receiving validation now for the ideas I had when I was in school 20 years ago that were dismissed. Worker alienation, corporate manipulation, the impossibility of endless corporate growth, the emergence of the imperial police state... all these ideas won me nothing but scoffing and mockery 20 years ago, but are now completely accepted as facts of the current breakdown. And, as awful as it is, I love it all, because it means that if those outrageous ideas of my 20-year-old-self are real and valid, than so, quite likely, are the other ideas.

Girl, I am FEELIN' you, dog. In SOOOO many ways. Not just my recent success, but this tinfoil hat I've been wearing since I was 19? Yeah, people ain't so quick to slap that shit off my head anymore...unless it's to steal it for themselves.

Let my 19-year-old, batshit, know-it-all, neo-beatnik, anti-corporatist self personally validate you for LYFE.

When I was younger, I was called a mad paranoid bastard.

Now I'm called "insightful".

My behavior hasn't changed all that much.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cramulus

#13
February 10, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
I'd be worried if my 19-year old self started making sense. That cat was up the wall.

Cainad (dec.)

#14
February 10, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
I think I'm an outlier in terms of being a dumb youngster with weird ideas. This is mostly because you spags have been influencing my thought processes and general worldview for about 4 years, since I was 17. PD.com is a very unusual intellectual culture for an introspective teenager to grow up in.

I kind of wonder how that will affect how I look upon myself 10 or 20 years from now.
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