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Started by Cain, April 26, 2012, 06:49:47 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I think "Dirty Politics" has the widest appeal.
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Triple Zero

I like:

Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2012, 08:24:07 PMThe Disorder of Things
Crude Democracy
Dirty Politics
Hyperpolitics
Managed Chaos
Negotiated Risks
The Post Modern Prince

My favourites are The Disorder of Things and Post Modern Prince.

"Hyperpolitics" makes me think of that NIN track :) (which is a good thing) Also sounds like it has a sister/sub site "Hyperpolitics Wiki".

"Managed Chaos" seemed a bit cliché at first because the word "Chaos", but balances it out very nicely with "Managed". Also it sounds like a good solid name for a forum.

"Negotiated Risks" sounds a bit like an insurance term at first, but if the forum takes off it has real potential to become its own set phrase.

Inside the Mirage -- maybe.
Shadow Globalization -- maybe. bit of a conspiracy flavour, but that's not necessarily bad



The rest: (it's just some quick notes with my initial thoughts--not all of them serious)

Axis Of Malice -- sounds like a metal band
Blood and Debt -- "Yeah I got the link from a very insightful thread on the Blood and Debt forum" just sounds a bit ... creepy.
Broken Hegemonies -- unclear what this means
Complex Deterrence -- also unclear
Crisis, Complexity and Conflict -- will be shortened to CCC and thus get confused with the German hacker symposium (who did a Discordia theme on their 23rd anniversary, btw)
Dominoes and Bandwagons -- "boy you sure talk about complex stuff on a D&B forum"
The Guns of September -- don't know what this is referring to
The Mask of Anarchy -- great name but I echo what Regret said about using the word "anarchy"
Violent Globalisms -- might attract radical types and/or scrutiny. and the way it sounds, maybe I just got juvenile associations :)
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The Johnny

dominoes and bandwagons is awesome

i would suggest "the great leech kaleidoscope"

for most of the issues revolve around groups of people living off and profiting from another persons work or life

kaleidoscope for when one a analyses any given situation it can seem very complex to see the patterns
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Quote from: Cain on April 28, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Brainstormed a few potential names:

Axis Of Malice
Blood and Debt
Crude Democracy
Dirty Politics
Dominoes and Bandwagons

These are my favorite. I like Blood and Debt a lot.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

It looks perfect for a start and like you said, can be expanded/adjusted as needed.
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Triple Zero

#21
Cain might I suggest adding a poll to this thread?

edit: actually scratch that, it's just as easy to tally, and then pick what you like :) though a poll would be nice to look at, in this case.
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Cain

Hi all, not ignoring this thread, but had a shit night's sleep last night.  Give me an hour or two to recover and I'll get around to replying and stuff.

Anna Mae Bollocks

No rush. Sounds like you have a lot of shit going on.
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Cain

Quote from: Triple Zero on April 27, 2012, 12:11:44 AM
I noted that on PD, during times when the subforum descriptions weren't all that ... descriptive (esp. to n00bs), stuff tended to end up a lot more wherever than after we re-fixed them. Best to keep that in mind, also as the forum evolves and subforums "feel" or purpose naturally change, adjust the descriptions accordingly. Regulars won't read them after a while, but new people do, and on PD we seemed to have ended up with a kind of generational flushing at some point, and even today people have differing ideas on what TFYS is really for :) [which is a shame because what I think it's for was one of my favourite subforums second to O:MF ]

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... Hyde Park, right? ;-)

Indeed.  My hope is to branch out and further redefine areas and create new subforums as the forum increases in membership and can sustain the new additions.  As such, that would involve a general and ongoing process of defining content for each subforum, which I intend to be somewhat strict with or on top of.  While I might have some humour with the names, now and again, there will always be a topic at the top to describe the purpose of the forum in question, and I will be much more pro-active about moving threads over there.

And yes, Hyde Park.  The names alone are part of the shaming process.  You, yes you are That Crazy Guy, ranting on your soapbox. 

Cain

Quote from: Joh'Nyx on April 27, 2012, 12:50:59 AM
id like to engage political issues from a certain social psychology and subjectivity angle

like on how certain actions affect the populace, or the thougth processes of politicians and their ideological constructs

i mean this might fit in any of the boards se tions u memtioned, im just sayin my interests and what i could bring to the table

exlusion, inequity, discrimination, how power perpetuates itself, etc

I think a lot of this might fall somewhere between the Society and Philosophy forum.

I am hoping, once I have the membership to sustain it, to add a Political/Social Theory/Ideology forum, where this kind of thing may also fit as well.

Cain

I took all the forum names, for those wondering, from contemporary books on international politics, or, in one case, a riff on them.  And Axis of Malice was a play on Axis of Evil.

The Guns of September is a reference to the Guns of August, Trip, a history book on the first month of fighting on the Western front in WWI, by Barbara Tuchman.  It's practically a standard text on the conflict in the Anglophone countries.  The September in this case refers to September 11th, and how that event triggered (or, more accurately, helped crystallise trends) that have led us to our current situation.

The Mask of Anarchy is actually a reference to Shelley, but also to the international system as a whole: on the face of it, it is anarchic, but that is a mask, there are underlying patterns of regularity and order, for those able to discern them.

Cain

I'll make a decision on names by the end of the day.

Cain

(I'm not actually adding a poll)

Choices:

Crude Democracy or Dirty Politics?

Junkenstein

Another vote here for "Dirty Politics"

Wide appeal, also opens the scope to talk more about non democratic countries. I have a gut feeling this may get a more international crowd which could add a lot to the content.
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