The painfully inevitable ACA discussion thread

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

There are some very, very badly-needed insurance company reforms built into the bill, which created a lot of opposition from insurance providers. "You can't MAKE us divert money from profits into paying for actual health care!"

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Exactly. Its like what a lot of teabaggers amusingly say- "follow the money."

of course "follow the money" and "thats socialism" makes as much sense as square wheels.

[AFK]

However, not surprisingly...

Uh, no Fox, what Roberts essentially said was "right church, wrong pew". Dumbasses!

[LMNO]

I just read on FB the comment, "It's like the foxes guarding the henhouse".  Which really makes no sense to me.

Honestly, I can't figure it out.  If the foxes are SCOTUS, then what are the chickens?  Sick people?  The insured?  And if the metaphor means "don't give a job to someone who will exploit their position," then how has SCOTUS exploited them for their own gain?

[tyrannosaurus vex]

By "tea party" I mean tge Republicans in general, since that is all they are. Yrs thats an ignorant partisan hack thing to say but time is short and I need to leave for work.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Exactly. Its like what a lot of teabaggers amusingly say- "follow the money."

of course "follow the money" and "thats socialism" makes as much sense as square wheels.

"Follow the money" is a remarkably good tool when you're trying to research the motivation behind institutionalized social problems; following the money is how I learned that prison corporations push mandatory minimum sentencing laws, and provide security for zero-tolerance high schools.

It works, it just doesn't usually shine a favorable light on the free market.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I just read on FB the comment, "It's like the foxes guarding the henhouse".  Which really makes no sense to me.

Honestly, I can't figure it out.  If the foxes are SCOTUS, then what are the chickens?  Sick people?  The insured?  And if the metaphor means "don't give a job to someone who will exploit their position," then how has SCOTUS exploited them for their own gain?

Who has time for logic? THERE'S A WAR ON!

[LMNO]

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Nigel- i agree. Its just when a bagger uses it its laughable

[Phox]

Good, now I can continue to tell my insurance company to shut up and take my money, but with the added benefit that I get health care in the deal now. Awesome. 

[E.O.T.]

LOVE

          this!

[The Good Reverend Roger]

One interesting note:  The penalties for not obeying the individual mandate have been defined by the court as a "tax".  We now have punitive taxation.

Ho ho ho!  That'll NEVER come back to haunt us.

[Cain]

A little surprised, but I always felt this could go either way.

On the one hand, the Roberts court has been somewhat Republican inclined on its rulings...on the other hand, while insurance companies were not in favour of certain conditions, the essential handout of extra cash sure did make them think twice about challenging the ACA too strongly.

Amusement factor: a certain High Profile Liberal Blogger said "if you believe the Roberts Court operates as the judicial arm of the Republican Party, the ruling may settle one enduring controversy: Is the ACA a sloppy wet kiss to the insurance industry, as the firebaggers claim, or is it a step on the road to universal access?

A Court that serves the party of the 1% can be expected to rule in the best interests of its patrons."


Which now means "firebaggers" have been proven right.  Since Firebaggers are the worst thing ever, even worse than Teabaggers, this should be fun.

[LMNO]

What the hell is a firebagger?

One interesting note:  The penalties for not obeying the individual mandate have been defined by the court as a "tax".  We now have punitive taxation.

Ho ho ho!  That'll NEVER come back to haunt us.

There is a theory that Roberts went along with this so he could gut the commerce clause.  If it's a tax, the commerce clause doesn't apply.

[Cain]

A firebagger is someone on the left who doesn't think Obama Reaganomics Superjesus Predator Drone Malcom X Hussein Obama is an infalliable god-emperor sent here by the universal creator to bestow his wisdom upon humanity, and may actually be criticised for some of his actions.