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A curiosity about the South, for people who live here

Started by The Dark Monk, July 02, 2012, 09:59:52 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

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Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 10, 2012, 07:28:17 PM
Whoa, whoa whoa.  I post when I can.  I even wrote a little something for the "land of the not quite dead" thread.


I just don't have much to contribute to this discussion.

No, you're right.  I apologize.

Same to anyone else I misrepresented with that post.  I'm having one of those months.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

It's not the brain flukes, is it?


Personally, today has been quite the shit show.

The Good Reverend Roger

I would, however, like to know exactly what the fuck we ARE talking about in this thread.

Because half the time anyone answers, they're told they're off topic or talking about shit nobody cares about.

The impression I had is that this thread is about the civil war, pre-, -post, etc.  Am I right in this?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 10, 2012, 08:20:57 PM
It's not the brain flukes, is it?


Personally, today has been quite the shit show.

I don't think so.  Just overwork, underslept, and PILLZ HERE & coffee to make up the difference.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Quote from: The Dark Monk on July 02, 2012, 09:59:52 PM
Have you ever had someone argue with you that the North crashed down and the South won?
Someone who argued that moderation is actually in fact, BAD for you?
That WW2 didn't only involve Jewish people and Normandy wasn't the only battle?

This was the OP ^.  I think the entire thread was off to a bad start, if you ask me.

There were some valient attempts to say something of value, but since there wasn't really a main topic to begin with, there was no common theme to hang on to.


And other prepositions with.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 10, 2012, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: The Dark Monk on July 02, 2012, 09:59:52 PM
Have you ever had someone argue with you that the North crashed down and the South won?
Someone who argued that moderation is actually in fact, BAD for you?
That WW2 didn't only involve Jewish people and Normandy wasn't the only battle?

This was the OP ^.  I think the entire thread was off to a bad start, if you ask me.

There were some valient attempts to say something of value, but since there wasn't really a main topic to begin with, there was no common theme to hang on to.


And other prepositions with.

I think the conversation actually began with V3x's comment (reply #9).

Right now, I just want to know what the fuck we're supposed to be talking about.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

I been mostly spectating. Interesting foreign cultural shit that I don't really know much about, interspersed with trolling and sniping but (for me) it was all worth it for something I never before thought about - the idea of the victors of a battle being influenced/infected by the culture they were fighting to eradicate. Makes perfect sense but it's something that had never before occurred to me so, yeah, thanks for that guys. Sincerely!

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 10, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
I been mostly spectating. Interesting foreign cultural shit that I don't really know much about, interspersed with trolling and sniping but (for me) it was all worth it for something I never before thought about - the idea of the victors of a battle being influenced/infected by the culture they were fighting to eradicate. Makes perfect sense but it's something that had never before occurred to me so, yeah, thanks for that guys. Sincerely!

It happened over there, too, in both Scotland and Wales...And most especially in the Norman invasion.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Phox

Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artis intulit agresti Latio.
- Horace


This phenomenon is known and noted, to be sure. Even so, I can understand where Pent is coming from. It's fairly easy to overlook that occupation is a two way street. I mean, you are initially going to think that an occupation force is going to impose its own culture on the  people it has conquered, and that it is going to somehow overwrite the previous culture completely, but of course, that neither makes sense, nor does anything in history show that. Cultural exchange between China, Japan, Korea, and the Mongols, the Romans and the Greeks, Egyptians, and Persians, the complexity of post-Roman Europe,  etc.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Phox, Mistress of Many Names on July 10, 2012, 11:44:58 PM
Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artis intulit agresti Latio.
- Horace


This phenomenon is known and noted, to be sure. Even so, I can understand where Pent is coming from. It's fairly easy to overlook that occupation is a two way street. I mean, you are initially going to think that an occupation force is going to impose its own culture on the  people it has conquered, and that it is going to somehow overwrite the previous culture completely, but of course, that neither makes sense, nor does anything in history show that. Cultural exchange between China, Japan, Korea, and the Mongols, the Romans and the Greeks, Egyptians, and Persians, the complexity of post-Roman Europe,  etc.

Half of the reason England is and has been so violent is that they used to get invaded 3 times a century.  This eventually had a very strong influence on the French, the Vikings, and everyone else who didn't hang around.  The ones that DID hang around became British or went mad.

The other half of the reason for their violence, of course, is that they're English.  Even the Scots and the Welsh, though they'll never admit it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

By the way, apologies to just about everyone I ranted about, the bottom of the last page.

Too many benzos, not enough sleep.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Whoops.  Already said that.

I suppose it can't hurt to say it twice.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Phox, Mistress of Many Names on July 10, 2012, 11:44:58 PM
Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artis intulit agresti Latio.
- Horace

This phenomenon is known and noted, to be sure. Even so, I can understand where Pent is coming from. It's fairly easy to overlook that occupation is a two way street. I mean, you are initially going to think that an occupation force is going to impose its own culture on the  people it has conquered, and that it is going to somehow overwrite the previous culture completely, but of course, that neither makes sense, nor does anything in history show that. Cultural exchange between China, Japan, Korea, and the Mongols, the Romans and the Greeks, Egyptians, and Persians, the complexity of post-Roman Europe,  etc.

I can see it for everything mentioned so far, but I don't really see the US being much influenced by the Native Americans. OK, the US representative republic was a direct rip from the Six Nations, but other than that I just don't see much. But maybe that's just the way this country has of turning everything it touches into shit. High-yield corn that tastes like crap? Robert Bly mens' weekends?  :x Or maybe it's different with genocide...don't know.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 11, 2012, 12:51:24 AM


I can see it for everything mentioned so far, but I don't really see the US being much influenced by the Native Americans. OK, the US representative republic was a direct rip from the Six Nations, but other than that I just don't see much.

You mean besides the fact that everyone in the damn country insists that they're descended from an Indian princess or some shit?   :lulz: 

Also, our military was VERY heavily influenced by the various tribes and nations; some of the doctrine developed then is still in place today.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 11, 2012, 12:53:26 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 11, 2012, 12:51:24 AM


I can see it for everything mentioned so far, but I don't really see the US being much influenced by the Native Americans. OK, the US representative republic was a direct rip from the Six Nations, but other than that I just don't see much.

You mean besides the fact that everyone in the damn country insists that they're descended from an Indian princess or some shit?   :lulz: 

Also, our military was VERY heavily influenced by the various tribes and nations; some of the doctrine developed then is still in place today.

I knew they cribbed a lot of strategic stuff after pwnage at battles like the Fetterman fight, but I'd like to know about the doctrine.  :)
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