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Question about punk rock from non-punk bands

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, July 26, 2012, 05:40:34 PM

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hooplala

#45
July 27, 2012, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on July 27, 2012, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 04:42:10 PM
My personal vote would be for the Stooges... MC5 was fucking amazing, but there was a change in attitude/mindset with the Stooges...  I can't imagine Fred Sonic Smith crowd surfing and rubbing peanut butter all over his bare chest.

And Dimo, if Patti Smith and Television are punk, then so are the Clash... and they are.  They fucking are.

Nope on all accounts... I will fist-fight this point. The Clash were pioneers in modern marketing. That is all.

That is 50 shades of retarded.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Cuddlefish

#46
July 27, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on July 27, 2012, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 04:42:10 PM
My personal vote would be for the Stooges... MC5 was fucking amazing, but there was a change in attitude/mindset with the Stooges...  I can't imagine Fred Sonic Smith crowd surfing and rubbing peanut butter all over his bare chest.

And Dimo, if Patti Smith and Television are punk, then so are the Clash... and they are.  They fucking are.

Nope on all accounts... I will fist-fight this point. The Clash were pioneers in modern marketing. That is all.

That is 50 shades of retarded.

Derp
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

The Good Reverend Roger

#47
July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

#48
July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone claiming the sky is red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

#49
July 27, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone over the sky being red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.

Nuh uh.  He's Italian.  You'd never get the gel off of your hands.

Plus, if it's punk, it must end in violence.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

#50
July 27, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone over the sky being red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.

Nuh uh.  He's Italian.  You'd never get the gel off of your hands.

Plus, if it's punk, it must end in violence.

Or PROFIT!
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

#51
July 27, 2012, 05:12:16 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone over the sky being red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.

Nuh uh.  He's Italian.  You'd never get the gel off of your hands.

Plus, if it's punk, it must end in violence.

Or PROFIT!

*looks around*

Demonstrate a practical difference.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nephew Twiddleton

#52
July 27, 2012, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone over the sky being red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.

Nuh uh.  He's Italian.  You'd never get the gel off of your hands.

Plus, if it's punk, it must end in violence.

Or PROFIT!

http://www.theprofits.org/
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

hooplala

#53
July 27, 2012, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:12:16 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone over the sky being red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.

Nuh uh.  He's Italian.  You'd never get the gel off of your hands.

Plus, if it's punk, it must end in violence.

Or PROFIT!

*looks around*

Demonstrate a practical difference.

Touché.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Cuddlefish

#54
July 27, 2012, 05:13:50 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone claiming the sky is red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.

Right, because defining a bands level of "punk-ness" is an objectively quantifiable process.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

The Good Reverend Roger

#55
July 27, 2012, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on July 27, 2012, 05:13:50 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT!

It would be like fighting with someone claiming the sky is red.  You just pat them on the head and go make a sandwich.

Right, because defining a bands level of "punk-ness" is an objectively quantifiable process.

That's why you're here.

Lay down the law.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#56
July 27, 2012, 05:14:32 PM
So, let me get theis straight:

Crass' message was, "Fuck the man, fuck the government, fuck society."

Clash's message was, "Fuck the man, fuck the governmnet, fuck society."


So the Clash got a bigged record contract, because they could actually write a hook.  You seem to be butthurt because Mick Jones knew what a "melody" is.

Cuddlefish

#57
July 27, 2012, 05:21:31 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 27, 2012, 05:14:32 PM
So, let me get theis straight:

Crass' message was, "Fuck the man, fuck the government, fuck society."

Clash's message was, "Fuck the man, fuck the governmnet, fuck society."


So the Clash got a bigged record contract, because they could actually write a hook.  You seem to be butthurt because Mick Jones knew what a "melody" is.

Derp. Clash's message was "Fuck the Gov't, but please be a respectful, good little boy about it." They were like the Democrats of today. Afraid to TAKE IT TO THE FUCKING WALL.

Sorry guys, I don't like The Clash. I think they're a bunch of posers. Not my fault y'all take my dislike for a band that none of you were in as a personal attack.

/inflammatory
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?

hooplala

#58
July 27, 2012, 05:23:30 PM
I don't even really care all that much for the Clash.  I was more offended by the implication that Patti Smith wasn't punk.  I curb-stomped an old lady for saying something similar once.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Cuddlefish

#59
July 27, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on July 27, 2012, 05:23:30 PM
I don't even really care all that much for the Clash.  I was more offended by the implication that Patti Smith wasn't punk.  I curb-stomped an old lady for saying something similar once.

Sounds reasonable.
A fisher of men, or a manner of fish?
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