Heavy Metal, Its History, Influences and Subgenres

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Because making fun of Metalheads' hair is a novel thing, even in this thread.

I was talking about the look on his face.

I was referencing Trip's calling them girlfriends. Your comment was valid. Metalheads must always look serious in a picture. Or otherwise look like they're having a shouting good time. However for that to work, there must be half consumed beers in the picture.

MORAL:  All metalheads come from Seguin, TX.

Does one out of four guys in Seguin have his fly down?

Only in church.  Otherwise, it's more like 4/4.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Because making fun of Metalheads' hair is a novel thing, even in this thread.

I was talking about the look on his face.

I was referencing Trip's calling them girlfriends. Your comment was valid. Metalheads must always look serious in a picture. Or otherwise look like they're having a shouting good time. However for that to work, there must be half consumed beers in the picture.

MORAL:  All metalheads come from Seguin, TX.

Does one out of four guys in Seguin have his fly down?

Only in church.  Otherwise, it's more like 4/4.

Damn.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Because making fun of Metalheads' hair is a novel thing, even in this thread.

I was talking about the look on his face.

I was referencing Trip's calling them girlfriends. Your comment was valid. Metalheads must always look serious in a picture. Or otherwise look like they're having a shouting good time. However for that to work, there must be half consumed beers in the picture.

MORAL:  All metalheads come from Seguin, TX.

Sounds right. 

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Because making fun of Metalheads' hair is a novel thing, even in this thread.

I was talking about the look on his face.

I was referencing Trip's calling them girlfriends. Your comment was valid. Metalheads must always look serious in a picture. Or otherwise look like they're having a shouting good time. However for that to work, there must be half consumed beers in the picture.

MORAL:  All metalheads come from Seguin, TX.

Does one out of four guys in Seguin have his fly down?

Only in church.  Otherwise, it's more like 4/4.

Damn.

"Welcommmmme to my world..."

[AFK]

But I would argue that Metal is more than just the music and has become a culture, 

That's the saddest thing I've heard this month.

Why is that sad?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

But I would argue that Metal is more than just the music and has become a culture, 

That's the saddest thing I've heard this month.

Why is that sad?

See ECH's response.  He beat me to it.

[AFK]

Meh, there's a lot of crap metal bands out there but there are a lot of good ones too.  But I would argue that Metal is more than just the music and has become a culture, and one that hasn't gone away despite all of the best efforts from the government, religion, and lawyers. 

As much as I love metal (the music), I'm'a have to say that metal is a culture in the same way that Juggalos are a culture, in that people who grasp on to it as some sort of uniform/life-identifier rather than just a type of music they enjoy tend to be the same kind of people that in a different context and/or with a different upbringing would be proud of being white.

I disagree, I think mostly because we seem to have different ideas of what "culture" connotates.   

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Im ok with heavy metal being a culture. It where it becomes a metalheads only culture that it becomes problematic. Cuz then you get a group of outcasts shitting on other types of outcasts. And then theres the whole not metal enough attitude. Nothing wrong with going to a show in a cut off denim jacket with patches on it. Wearing it to a baseball game might not be the best place for it.

[AFK]

Well you can have that within any culture.  But in general, I don't find metal heads to be any more or less welcoming than any other kind of culture.  Indeed, more often than not, I've found metal heads to be very welcoming and friendly. 

I think Sam Dunn, someone who is a metal fan AND an anthropologist, did a great documentary on the metal culture called "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey"  It truly takes an anthropological lens to metal and explores the culture and the spectrum of the fan base from young to old.  It's very much more than just wearing a uniform for the sake of being cool. 

[EK WAFFLR]

I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

I think it's funny foreigners apologize for their sentence structure when an American or a Brit would never have noticed. I still don't know what you're talking about error wise and standardized tests say that I have a better grasp on the English language than most Americans. The only thing I would have changed was use the word arsonists instead of burners.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

And on the subject of church arson, that shit was just plain terrorism. I'm glad that black metal has settled down. And you know, it wasn't all just historical site destruction and knocking over tombstones. People died. Not just Euronymous (founder of Mayhem who was murdered by his friend Varg Vikernes of Burzum) and that gay dude Faust from Emperor killed, Per Anders or something was his name. No, there was a French priest, a German school kid, a couple of other people. I like Black Metal, but there are some albums that I will not buy because of the people it would support. I do have Emperor's whole catalogue, but I bought that when Faust was still in prison and quite replaced with Trim. Faust, and Varg, are out now, btw. This is one of those rare times when I believe that the American judicial system is superior to that of European nations.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

You know, I've never listened to Gorgoroth, but I love Gaahl if for the simple fact that he's like, "Yeah, I'm gay. I'll eat you alive if you have a problem with that too."

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

You know, I've never listened to Gorgoroth, but I love Gaahl if for the simple fact that he's like, "Yeah, I'm gay. I'll eat you alive if you have a problem with that too."

Though, now having watched that, "Semitic roots" bit is a bit fucked up. The pause with a very calm "Satan" was hilarious though.

Like, I don't like Christianity very much. I don't like what it has done to Ireland. I don't like what it has done to the United States. But you know what? It's there. It's part of both cultures. Even though my religion is Irish polytheism, I have to thank Christian monks for two things- preserving our mythology and getting rid of all of that sacrifice bullshit. I'm sure that Norway, like Ireland, has benefited from Christianity, even though it is useless, especially in Norway, now (from what I understand most Scandinavians identify as atheist, whereas Irish still identify as Christian, at least as a political statement).

[EK WAFFLR]

I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

You know, I've never listened to Gorgoroth, but I love Gaahl if for the simple fact that he's like, "Yeah, I'm gay. I'll eat you alive if you have a problem with that too."

I deeply respect his balls to come out of the closet in one of the most homophobic (and homoerotic) scenes in the music world.
I do not, however respect his methods of "teaching people lessons" when they have crossed him in the past. He has served four or five years in jail for violence and torture. Fuck that shit.