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Started by Nephew Twiddleton, July 30, 2012, 01:25:52 AM

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Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

You know, I've never listened to Gorgoroth, but I love Gaahl if for the simple fact that he's like, "Yeah, I'm gay. I'll eat you alive if you have a problem with that too."

Though, now having watched that, "Semitic roots" bit is a bit fucked up. The pause with a very calm "Satan" was hilarious though.

Like, I don't like Christianity very much. I don't like what it has done to Ireland. I don't like what it has done to the United States. But you know what? It's there. It's part of both cultures. Even though my religion is Irish polytheism, I have to thank Christian monks for two things- preserving our mythology and getting rid of all of that sacrifice bullshit. I'm sure that Norway, like Ireland, has benefited from Christianity, even though it is useless, especially in Norway, now (from what I understand most Scandinavians identify as atheist, whereas Irish still identify as Christian, at least as a political statement).

Well, in many ways we have benefited from it, even if blot was a rare thing when Heilag Olav christened Norway by the tried and true method of Convert or Die. Olav was, by the way sainted because, when they went to get his body, his nails and hair had grown. A true message from God, that.
"At first I lifted weights.  But then I asked myself, 'why not people?'  Now everyone runs for the fjord when they see me."


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For the record, I'm not particularly anti-Christian. I'm a fan of the highly exaggerated ritual of the Russian Orthodox Church, and, to a lesser extent, the Roman Catholic Church. I do think Protestantism and other Lutheran sects are way too boring, though, even if I do enjoy church coffee, from time to time. Many of the churches in Norway serve great waffles.
"At first I lifted weights.  But then I asked myself, 'why not people?'  Now everyone runs for the fjord when they see me."


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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 02:41:50 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:39:09 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:30:41 AM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

You know, I've never listened to Gorgoroth, but I love Gaahl if for the simple fact that he's like, "Yeah, I'm gay. I'll eat you alive if you have a problem with that too."

Though, now having watched that, "Semitic roots" bit is a bit fucked up. The pause with a very calm "Satan" was hilarious though.

Like, I don't like Christianity very much. I don't like what it has done to Ireland. I don't like what it has done to the United States. But you know what? It's there. It's part of both cultures. Even though my religion is Irish polytheism, I have to thank Christian monks for two things- preserving our mythology and getting rid of all of that sacrifice bullshit. I'm sure that Norway, like Ireland, has benefited from Christianity, even though it is useless, especially in Norway, now (from what I understand most Scandinavians identify as atheist, whereas Irish still identify as Christian, at least as a political statement).

Well, in many ways we have benefited from it, even if blot was a rare thing when Heilag Olav christened Norway by the tried and true method of Convert or Die. Olav was, by the way sainted because, when they went to get his body, his nails and hair had grown. A true message from God, that.

We sainted Patrick because he explained a theological concept we already had to us using a plant. Also, he got rid of reptiles. In Ireland. Think about that. Our Latin name, Hibernia, literally translates to "Winterland." How many snakes would you expect to find there, even, what, 1600 years ago?
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EK WAFFLR

Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:47:51 AM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 02:41:50 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:39:09 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:30:41 AM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

You know, I've never listened to Gorgoroth, but I love Gaahl if for the simple fact that he's like, "Yeah, I'm gay. I'll eat you alive if you have a problem with that too."

Though, now having watched that, "Semitic roots" bit is a bit fucked up. The pause with a very calm "Satan" was hilarious though.

Like, I don't like Christianity very much. I don't like what it has done to Ireland. I don't like what it has done to the United States. But you know what? It's there. It's part of both cultures. Even though my religion is Irish polytheism, I have to thank Christian monks for two things- preserving our mythology and getting rid of all of that sacrifice bullshit. I'm sure that Norway, like Ireland, has benefited from Christianity, even though it is useless, especially in Norway, now (from what I understand most Scandinavians identify as atheist, whereas Irish still identify as Christian, at least as a political statement).

Well, in many ways we have benefited from it, even if blot was a rare thing when Heilag Olav christened Norway by the tried and true method of Convert or Die. Olav was, by the way sainted because, when they went to get his body, his nails and hair had grown. A true message from God, that.

We sainted Patrick because he explained a theological concept we already had to us using a plant. Also, he got rid of reptiles. In Ireland. Think about that. Our Latin name, Hibernia, literally translates to "Winterland." How many snakes would you expect to find there, even, what, 1600 years ago?

Other than the odd common viper, not very many, I'd wager.  :lulz:
"At first I lifted weights.  But then I asked myself, 'why not people?'  Now everyone runs for the fjord when they see me."


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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 02:45:36 AM
For the record, I'm not particularly anti-Christian. I'm a fan of the highly exaggerated ritual of the Russian Orthodox Church, and, to a lesser extent, the Roman Catholic Church. I do think Protestantism and other Lutheran sects are way too boring, though, even if I do enjoy church coffee, from time to time. Many of the churches in Norway serve great waffles.

I am also not opposed to Christianity, since, recently I have gone back to some of the folk forms of Catholicism. Orthodox is interesting, but long as fuck. I went to see a friend ordained in the Antiochan tradition (he was a French-American raised Catholic. His wife was also really fucking hot, and Russian.) I gotta say, I do not want to be in any church for 3 hours for any reason. But, he knew I was Pagan and we both chuckled at each other when I came up to the altar to kiss the cross. Likewise, I am friends with two Lutheran ministers (they came out here to get their degrees, but are primarily from Indiana, which has a lot of Germans and Scandinavians, who are, of course, Lutheran). I used to be anti-Christian until I realized, about 90% of the people I cared about were Christian in some form or another.

I'm going to have a Catholic wedding. I'm going to have a Unitarian funeral.

That reminds me, become a Unitarian the day after wedding.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 02:49:37 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:47:51 AM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 02:41:50 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:39:09 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 02:30:41 AM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
I liked Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, and met Mr. Dunn when he was in Norway to shoot it, but I think he is a bit too apologetic about some of the rampant stupidity metallers have done, especially the church burners here in Norway.

(I hate myself a bit for having written such a poorly structured sentence. Please forgive me)

The movie also gave us this: .....SATAN, which is arguably the best interview in the history of music.

You know, I've never listened to Gorgoroth, but I love Gaahl if for the simple fact that he's like, "Yeah, I'm gay. I'll eat you alive if you have a problem with that too."

Though, now having watched that, "Semitic roots" bit is a bit fucked up. The pause with a very calm "Satan" was hilarious though.

Like, I don't like Christianity very much. I don't like what it has done to Ireland. I don't like what it has done to the United States. But you know what? It's there. It's part of both cultures. Even though my religion is Irish polytheism, I have to thank Christian monks for two things- preserving our mythology and getting rid of all of that sacrifice bullshit. I'm sure that Norway, like Ireland, has benefited from Christianity, even though it is useless, especially in Norway, now (from what I understand most Scandinavians identify as atheist, whereas Irish still identify as Christian, at least as a political statement).

Well, in many ways we have benefited from it, even if blot was a rare thing when Heilag Olav christened Norway by the tried and true method of Convert or Die. Olav was, by the way sainted because, when they went to get his body, his nails and hair had grown. A true message from God, that.

We sainted Patrick because he explained a theological concept we already had to us using a plant. Also, he got rid of reptiles. In Ireland. Think about that. Our Latin name, Hibernia, literally translates to "Winterland." How many snakes would you expect to find there, even, what, 1600 years ago?

Other than the odd common viper, not very many, I'd wager.  :lulz:

:lulz:

Odd common nothing.

There have been no reptiles in Ireland for thousands of years, let alone snakes. Too raw. The temperature is always around 50 degrees Fahrenheit and it's almost always raining. I've never been to Ireland when it's hotter than 75 in direct sun, and that never lasted very long. I've never been there and not seen rain, no matter how short the trip. When I went over to bury grandma, that was the ONLY sunny day in a week, according to my relatives. And lo and behold, it was raining that night. We got a lucky fucking window.
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EK WAFFLR

I did not know that Ireland was reptile free.
I did know about the rain.

Even Norway has two species of venomous vipers, the Common European and the grass snake.
"At first I lifted weights.  But then I asked myself, 'why not people?'  Now everyone runs for the fjord when they see me."


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Apparently the grass snake is not venomous, but it still bites ya. Damn my lack of knowledge!  :argh!:
"At first I lifted weights.  But then I asked myself, 'why not people?'  Now everyone runs for the fjord when they see me."


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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on July 31, 2012, 03:01:18 AM
I did not know that Ireland was reptile free.
I did know about the rain.

Even Norway has two species of venomous vipers, the Common European and the grass snake.

In Ireland, it's mammals, birds, insects and fish as far as the animal kingdom goes. Obviously we have bacteria and fungi and all that other fun stuff. But yeah, if you're not warm blooded, you're definitely not native to Ireland. Ireland even only has one major predator species- Homo sapiens. Sure they have dogs and cats, and... lackeys to Homo sapiens... No wolves. We domesticated them. No bears, they've been extinct for fucking forever, the only feline species is the one that we tolerate as pets because they eat mice. Also, few forests. Almost no deer. Ireland is about as industrialized as you can get without flat out total urbanization. It's a mostly rural country, but it's obvious who's in charge.
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If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.
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Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.

Thin Lizzy took their bus through the drive through at the Burger King in my home town years ago.

People still remember that. It's probably the coolest thing that ever happened there.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.

If Phil Fucking Lynott had anybody with sense in it, it would still be alive. That said, if I was able to vote there, he'd get at least one.

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 31, 2012, 04:51:43 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.


Thin Lizzy took their bus through the drive through at the Burger King in my home town years ago.

People still remember that. It's probably the coolest thing that ever happened there.



Mental note, easy act to follow in Seguin. Get hammered, destroy stuff. Also eat at Wendy's to make a statement about gods know what.
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

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Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 05:48:14 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.

If Phil Fucking Lynott had anybody with sense in it, it would still be alive. That said, if I was able to vote there, he'd get at least one.

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 31, 2012, 04:51:43 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.


Thin Lizzy took their bus through the drive through at the Burger King in my home town years ago.

People still remember that. It's probably the coolest thing that ever happened there.



Mental note, easy act to follow in Seguin. Get hammered, destroy stuff. Also eat at Wendy's to make a statement about gods know what.

I said "my hometown", I'm not FROM Seguin. DO YOU SEE ELBOW FLAPS? DOES MY STOMACH HANG LIKE A GIANT OLD TIT? CAN I READ?

I would like it if you came here and destroyed stuff, though.  :lulz:
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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 31, 2012, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 05:48:14 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.

If Phil Fucking Lynott had anybody with sense in it, it would still be alive. That said, if I was able to vote there, he'd get at least one.

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 31, 2012, 04:51:43 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.


Thin Lizzy took their bus through the drive through at the Burger King in my home town years ago.

People still remember that. It's probably the coolest thing that ever happened there.



Mental note, easy act to follow in Seguin. Get hammered, destroy stuff. Also eat at Wendy's to make a statement about gods know what.

I said "my hometown", I'm not FROM Seguin. DO YOU SEE ELBOW FLAPS? DOES MY STOMACH HANG LIKE A GIANT OLD TIT? CAN I READ?

I would like it if you came here and destroyed stuff, though.  :lulz:

I'll pretend like its Lawrence.
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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 07:13:34 AM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 31, 2012, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 31, 2012, 05:48:14 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.

If Phil Fucking Lynott had anybody with sense in it, it would still be alive. That said, if I was able to vote there, he'd get at least one.

Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 31, 2012, 04:51:43 AM
Quote from: Echo Chamber Music on July 31, 2012, 03:41:35 AM
If that silly little bog had anybody with sense in it, Phil Fucking Lynott would be in charge.


Thin Lizzy took their bus through the drive through at the Burger King in my home town years ago.

People still remember that. It's probably the coolest thing that ever happened there.



Mental note, easy act to follow in Seguin. Get hammered, destroy stuff. Also eat at Wendy's to make a statement about gods know what.

I said "my hometown", I'm not FROM Seguin. DO YOU SEE ELBOW FLAPS? DOES MY STOMACH HANG LIKE A GIANT OLD TIT? CAN I READ?

I would like it if you came here and destroyed stuff, though.  :lulz:

I'll pretend like its Lawrence.

You're going to pay a little kid to steal your car and drive it into the river?  :|
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