Heavy Metal, Its History, Influences and Subgenres

[East Coast Hustle]

Yeah, James Murphy is a wicked sick guitar player. loved his leads since Obituary days. Raises the question, though...does being in Testament cause/ cancer?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Hey, do you guys happen to know the origins of some of these labels like "thrash", "metal", "punk", "new wave", "black metal", etc.?
I'm willing to bet a lot of them started with dumbass journalists anyway. I mean, come on..."grunge"? 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Hey, do you guys happen to know the origins of some of these labels like "thrash", "metal", "punk", "new wave", "black metal", etc.?
I'm willing to bet a lot of them started with dumbass journalists anyway. I mean, come on..."grunge"? 

It stems from the band Venom. Let me see if I can find the quote.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Lords of Chaos doesn't have an index. Looking for Lucifer Rising.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Lucifer Rising by Gavin Baddeley, ISBN 0 85965 280 7, page 129, interview with Abaddon of Venom:

GB: How did the 'black metal' tag come about?
Abaddon: People pigeonholed us, as they do every band. We actually said in an interview, 'Fuck off, we're not heavy metal. We're death metal, we're speed metal, we're thrash metal, we're black metal.' We actually said that in anger, but we created a whole range of new pigeonholes. Because we called an album Black Metal you now get people calling Black Sabbath black metal, and they were happening long before we were in nappies.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Punk and New Wave are independent of Venom, obviously. Punk used to be equivalent to the term faggot, New Wave, I'm not sure.

[East Coast Hustle]

fucking Venom. Crappy band, great interviewees.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Punk and New Wave are independent of Venom, obviously. Punk used to be equivalent to the term faggot, New Wave, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I remember that. And getting "punked" was getting fucked up the ass, usually unwillingly, like in prison. When punk came out, everybody was going "what the fuck?" 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

fucking Venom. Crappy band, great interviewees.

Can't always win gold medals. 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Punk and New Wave are independent of Venom, obviously. Punk used to be equivalent to the term faggot, New Wave, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I remember that. And getting "punked" was getting fucked up the ass, usually unwillingly, like in prison. When punk came out, everybody was going "what the fuck?" 

The term Metal is just shortened from Heavy Metal, which comes from a line in "Born to Be Wild" and Grunge presumably is from aversion to bathing.

Twid,
Was grunge. Meant it.

PS: Rock and Roll used to be a lyrical eupemism in the Blues for sex.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Yeah, James Murphy is a wicked sick guitar player. loved his leads since Obituary days. Raises the question, though...does being in Testament cause/ cancer?

Just noticed this.

[AFK]

Yeah, James Murphy is a wicked sick guitar player. loved his leads since Obituary days. Raises the question, though...does being in Testament cause/ cancer?

He was also in Death (Chuck, brain tumor), and the band Cancer.

[AFK]

Punk and New Wave are independent of Venom, obviously. Punk used to be equivalent to the term faggot, New Wave, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I remember that. And getting "punked" was getting fucked up the ass, usually unwillingly, like in prison. When punk came out, everybody was going "what the fuck?" 

The term Metal is just shortened from Heavy Metal, which comes from a line in "Born to Be Wild" and Grunge presumably is from aversion to bathing.

Twid,
Was grunge. Meant it.

PS: Rock and Roll used to be a lyrical eupemism in the Blues for sex.

I'm pretty sure 'grunge' was invented by some music journalist in Seattle.


And Venom might've tossed out the term 'death' metal, but I think the actual subgenre sound an aesthetic were really solidified by the band Death as well as Possessed who had an early song called Death Metal which really set out the template for the style of music.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Punk and New Wave are independent of Venom, obviously. Punk used to be equivalent to the term faggot, New Wave, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I remember that. And getting "punked" was getting fucked up the ass, usually unwillingly, like in prison. When punk came out, everybody was going "what the fuck?" 

The term Metal is just shortened from Heavy Metal, which comes from a line in "Born to Be Wild" and Grunge presumably is from aversion to bathing.

Twid,
Was grunge. Meant it.

PS: Rock and Roll used to be a lyrical eupemism in the Blues for sex.

I'm pretty sure 'grunge' was invented by some music journalist in Seattle.


And Venom might've tossed out the term 'death' metal, but I think the actual subgenre sound an aesthetic were really solidified by the band Death as well as Possessed who had an early song called Death Metal which really set out the template for the style of music.

Probably. The funny thing is that grunge wasn't really a cohesive genre to begin with. Soundgarden was a Metal band, Nirvana was a Punk band, Stone Temple Pilots was.... wiggly heroin addicts who should keep their shirts on Rock.

[LMNO]

Not this again...


We had a nice board fight over what grunge "was" a few monthd back.  Not sure I'd like to revisit that.