How To See The Future - Warren Ellis

[hirley0]

:55 ? the fog  {{{Was the hypnotic fog negative Or +
? thins out {{ it seams probable this is itself questionable ASK Jup
? fog is dens { is it ? or is it NOT | it is charged.
:50
This is very different from the Bohr atom.
To compare, we shall sit on nucleus of a Bohr atom and a Schrödinger atom.
Start with Bohr: we would see the electron moving
around us in a circular orbit with a radius of exactly ao.
In the Schrödinger case, we would see a fog of negative charge.
The fog is denser near the nucleus and thins out
with distance from the nucleus.
i prefur dartmouth
:44 http://www.dartmouth.edu/~genchem/0405/spring/6belbruno/waves.pdf
22:36 pdT http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tao/preprints/schrodinger.pdf
the next day?Sure i would like
to d'bait the subject, would it happen ? i doubt it. lemme say anyway
it reminds me of Stella & vinsim | two math / statistics programs

:45 the problem as i c it is the parameters of E (2) K&P or was it Kp
:41 /-/A /-/A /-/A
:35 http://gravitywarpdrive.com/NGFT_Chapter_7.htm
:30 WhiTch system | U stupid SH it
http://mayaanjali.hubpages.com/hub/The-Schrodingers-Wave-Equation
12:18 WoooW what luck #15 /-/ip /-/ip do a flip ^READ UP^

I can still derive a solution to the SWE for the hydrogen atom
The schrodinger wave equation,

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:23 THE #1 problem above is the shape's SHOULD NOT all be ovals.
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http://javascript:void(0) ?

:35 Total Energy  =  Kinetic Energy  +  Potential Energy | TE  =  KE  +  PE |
:40
^ http://gravitywarpdrive.com/NGFT_Equations/General_Schrodinger_Wave_Equation.gif ^
:44 E  =  hν  =  hc/λ | E  =  mc^2 ? mc^2  =  hc/λ } λ  =  h/mc

[hirley0]

23:45 r message has been sent successfully.
thus i find wave equation Ψ {Psi)
to me it is static! A slow
if moving fog (A Quantum}
__d5__  clock 1:  no words would be know about these(orbit//spin)
***[ PREPOSED TABLE of minisqualPHYSICAL UNITS ]*********   
__d4__  clock 2:  electrons orbit proton // electrons spin
***[ PREPOSED TABLE of quantmPHYSICAL UNITS ]********
__d3__  clock 3:  Planets orbits the Sun // Planets Spin on axis
***[ PREPOSED TABLE of metaPHYSICAL UNITS ]********* 
thus in my mind the quantum table (call it the periodic table}
has been printed. What has not yet been sketched out is the
next demension Down { i called it Mini's table above
perhaps it is string theory | what i see is not static fog
but dynamic fog | not a bowl of jello | but a boiling
caldren of pulsations up & down Left & right inside out
upside down round & around | a very turbulant place
& my guess is all tha can be said about mini is she ages 
23:23 & beyound ^ Look Up ^
REMember at this point? i was taught by an assayer
NOT to trust the chemists, & so i do not. My exact point of disagreement
is rather non specific. Thus i Zoom in on the 1st year / 110 {never mind
v able 7-1:  Periodic Table of the Ele v
References:  http://www.webelements.com/index.html
http://chemlab.pc.maricopa.edu/periodic/113.html
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[hirley0]

at some remote chance of getting across | this:
i do not know why communication between myself & others IS
so badly impaired. that it is seams rather certain. One guess i have
about this is the passage thru?beyond the space time continuum
which took place in April of 58. Perhaps once beyond there exists
no return path. And while in that time frame may as well detail
briefly the TRANCE. for most surely there was one | in Mass {
affecting all. What was it out there ? the suspended animation
IN there {the wheel house| My only guess | it vas Wissualy
coupled | such that the brains involved were synchronously?
held in a state of suspension? it was very strange i can say
sme form of mass hypnosis | by highly charged{ionized water / mist

hat Science is ready to produce a Hirley0 trans 

AS4 the 'bait | U can guess 118 El's some say 255 others 360
?/?Who Was Erwin U May  ask
Well he was the one i knew in Portland | had a Museum on Union |
the Union came in | destroyed his place | handed him a bill |
& He Erwin Grant can be found in the Federal Court (d9}? in '10
Possibly still | TN | on the oTHer hand can not be found 9 or 10

[The Wizard Joseph]

I am uncertain that Science is ready to produce a Hirley0 translator device. 

Yeah, the power of technology is truly wondrous!  It cannot give purpose, real telos. It is a means, not an end. It will go on forever and ever. Amen. I hope.

I also hope that humanity will not lose that spark of innovation that brought this state of affairs about to the incredible tendency we have to make a faith of what we think we know.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I find articles like this useful for exactly that. A reminder every so often of the awesome a compliments that have been made.

I want something I can use at will. I think Thich Nhat Hanh has it, from many years of careful, directed awareness. I'm already habituated to this article, and that's awful.

I use old science fiction. I'll frequently compare something I'm using or doing to star trek or doctor who or something along those lines. Then I'll notice how much cooler the one I have is. Like how Ellis compares the mobile phone to Kirk's communicator. I get that pretty much every time I use mine.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

Maybe the disappointment with the future isn't so much that we don't have neat things to play with or amazing technological abilities, but that all those toys and technologies are props for the real "Future," where we're not still dealing with the same bullshit we've had for 100,000 years. A future where not only can we make a phone call to someone on the other side of the planet, with no wires, from a little box in our pocket, but we also don't have poverty, disease, or war (at least among ourselves). A future where we have nothing left to prove in the "Are we good enough to survive" department, and we have achieved what I think would be the greatest accomplishment in human evolution - a world where human lives can be spent exploring, learning, and evolving instead of working, sleeping, getting diabetes and dying young.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Maybe the disappointment with the future isn't so much that we don't have neat things to play with or amazing technological abilities, but that all those toys and technologies are props for the real "Future," where we're not still dealing with the same bullshit we've had for 100,000 years. A future where not only can we make a phone call to someone on the other side of the planet, with no wires, from a little box in our pocket, but we also don't have poverty, disease, or war (at least among ourselves). A future where we have nothing left to prove in the "Are we good enough to survive" department, and we have achieved what I think would be the greatest accomplishment in human evolution - a world where human lives can be spent exploring, learning, and evolving instead of working, sleeping, getting diabetes and dying young.

Yup! I remember one of the Star Trek movies (can't remember which one) and someone was explaining to some dude from the past when the turning point came about and they said it was replicator technology - eliminated human need overnight. I can't help thinking that, whilst it probably won't be a complete panacea, it'll certainly shift the game a fuck of a way in the right direction.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Maybe the disappointment with the future isn't so much that we don't have neat things to play with or amazing technological abilities, but that all those toys and technologies are props for the real "Future," where we're not still dealing with the same bullshit we've had for 100,000 years. A future where not only can we make a phone call to someone on the other side of the planet, with no wires, from a little box in our pocket, but we also don't have poverty, disease, or war (at least among ourselves). A future where we have nothing left to prove in the "Are we good enough to survive" department, and we have achieved what I think would be the greatest accomplishment in human evolution - a world where human lives can be spent exploring, learning, and evolving instead of working, sleeping, getting diabetes and dying young.

Yup! I remember one of the Star Trek movies (can't remember which one) and someone was explaining to some dude from the past when the turning point came about and they said it was replicator technology - eliminated human need overnight. I can't help thinking that, whilst it probably won't be a complete panacea, it'll certainly shift the game a fuck of a way in the right direction.

If somebody invented a replicator, you can be sure that it would be kept off the market, like those nylons that don't run.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Maybe the disappointment with the future isn't so much that we don't have neat things to play with or amazing technological abilities, but that all those toys and technologies are props for the real "Future," where we're not still dealing with the same bullshit we've had for 100,000 years. A future where not only can we make a phone call to someone on the other side of the planet, with no wires, from a little box in our pocket, but we also don't have poverty, disease, or war (at least among ourselves). A future where we have nothing left to prove in the "Are we good enough to survive" department, and we have achieved what I think would be the greatest accomplishment in human evolution - a world where human lives can be spent exploring, learning, and evolving instead of working, sleeping, getting diabetes and dying young.

Yup! I remember one of the Star Trek movies (can't remember which one) and someone was explaining to some dude from the past when the turning point came about and they said it was replicator technology - eliminated human need overnight. I can't help thinking that, whilst it probably won't be a complete panacea, it'll certainly shift the game a fuck of a way in the right direction.

If somebody invented a replicator, you can be sure that it would be kept off the market, like those nylons that don't run.

Depends what you can replicate.

I would replicate my cold virus-infested spit.

[Cain]

Wouldn't matter if the first few loads of replicator creators kept the devices off the markets.

Once humanity is at a point where replicators are feasible (assuming the physics behind them are feasible) then it's only a matter of time before they are on the market.

At the very least, the military applications of a replicator would ensure a market for their use.  Just look at 3D printers.  And once one military has them, others will scramble to get their own, probably offering huge sums to whatever scientists they can gather up to get such a device working.

Information leaks.  And when a sufficiently game-changing device is invented, there is no going back.

[The Wizard Joseph]

This ^^ Wholeheartedly this!

Not that I expect to see replicators in my lifetime.

I DO wonder what the future will bring along the lines of life-extension technology.  I often worry that under the current medical/economic system it will result in a true over-caste of long lived folks that got there only because they happened to be on the top of the economic hill at the time it was introduced.

[Cain]

Yeah.  Life extension will certainly be the proof that "the future is already here, it's not just evenly distributed".  I strongly suspect such treatments will be available in private clinics in Switzerland before they are available on the NHS, for example.

[The Wizard Joseph]

It's also one of those things that mankind had always chased after. In the ancient past it led to an incredible multitude of delusional states and subsequent con games.  They still persist.  Here in the present it seems plausible to actually be able to offer extended life expectancy on a corporate contract one day.  I find this deeply disturbing on one level but still quite tantalizing.  I am profoundly curious about how the future of this world of ours will go and would not mind being around for, say, 200 years. I would settle for 120 in reasonable health.

Also, what is NHS?

[Cain]

National Health Service - free at point of use healthcare system in the UK.  It's pretty amazing, all things considered, when it comes to treatment and keeping up with advanced technology, but it can't and wont be able to compete with more...selective services, at least until the cost of treatment drops considerably.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Ah, I see.  I'm fairly sure most treatments that would result in extraordinary lifespan would fall into this "selective services" category for sure.  At least you good folks over there can expect reasonable treatment when needed without undue consideration of economic impact.

The closest thing I am aware of that we have other than things like medicare and disability status is a rule that says that if you can get to within 100 feet or so of a hospital and are in need of emergency treatment then the hospital is obligated to treat you no matter what. Small comfort, but better than nothing.