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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, September 27, 2012, 05:47:08 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

#75
October 01, 2012, 04:45:43 PM
A European city is a city that is in the continent of Europe.

Thread over.
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Nephew Twiddleton

#76
October 01, 2012, 04:50:14 PM
Thank you roger i was about to post similar.
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Dildo Argentino

#77
October 01, 2012, 06:22:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 01, 2012, 04:45:43 PM
A European city is a city that is in the continent of Europe.

Thread over.

Quite. However... the thread title should have been "What defines a city in the European sense".
Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis

Nephew Twiddleton

#78
October 01, 2012, 06:25:50 PM
I dont know about all of europe but in the british isles traditionally it would be the presence of  a cathedral. Thread still over.
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The Good Reverend Roger

#79
October 01, 2012, 06:34:35 PM Last Edit: October 01, 2012, 06:36:08 PM by The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Dishonest Wanker on October 01, 2012, 06:22:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 01, 2012, 04:45:43 PM
A European city is a city that is in the continent of Europe.

Thread over.

Quite. However... the thread title should have been "What defines a city in the European sense".

QuoteIn British English, city is reserved for very large settlements and smaller historic settlements with a Cathedral (e.g. Lichfield), while smaller settlements without a Cathedral are called towns, and smaller still are villages and hamlets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#80
October 01, 2012, 06:35:38 PM
Same source:

QuoteThe French word for city is the same for that for a town, ville. In France, there is no distinction between a town and a city. There is only a difference between a city or town (ville), a village (village) which is smaller (around 50 to 2000 inhabitants), and a hamlet (hameau) which does not have more than around 50 inhabitants.[48]. The number of inhabitants that a city or a village is considered as having may vary among individuals. But petite ville (literally "small town", or town) usually refers to smaller villes and grande ville for the bigger ones.[citation needed] The term métropole (metropolis) or grande ville (big town or city) can be used for the biggest cities
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#81
October 01, 2012, 06:39:39 PM
QuoteIn Finland, there is no distinction between "city" and "town", both being known by the word kaupunki. In local government, a local governing municipality or kunta can designate itself as a kaupunki by a simple vote in council.

QuoteThe German word for both "town" and "city" is Stadt, while a city with more than 100,000 inhabitants is called a Großstadt (big city). On the other hand, most towns are communities belonging to a Landkreis (county or rural district), but there are some cities, usually with at least 50,000 inhabitants, that are counties by themselves (kreisfreie Städte).

QuoteIn the Netherlands a city is called stad, in common with other Germanic languages. In the Dutch language there is no distinction between town and city (both are stad).

QuoteIn Norway a city is called by and is derived from the Norse word býr meaning "a place with many buildings". Both cities and towns can be referred to as by; however, in recent years, storby (lit. large city) has been used for larger settlements. The status of "town" is granted by the local authorities if a request for city status has been made and the area has a population of at least 5000. An area with a population of at least 50,000 is counted as a "city". Since 1997, cities no longer have special administrative functions

QuoteIn Poland the word miasto serves for both town and city. Miasto is the term applied purely on the basis of the administrative decision of the central government, and specifically means either:
a county (gmina or powiat) with a city charter;
a city within a county, created by granting a city charter to a smaller town within a county

QuoteAs in Spanish, in Portuguese there is a traditional distinction between cities — cidades — and towns — vilas. The difference is defined by law,[54] and a city must have:

at least 8,000 electors (more or less 10,000 inhabitants)
at least half of the following services:
hospital
pharmacy
fire department
theatre / cultural house
museum
library
hotel services
basic and secondary schools
public transport
gardens / urban parks
In special cases, some towns may be granted the status of city if they possess historical, cultural or architectonic importance.

QuoteSweden canceled the official legal term City (in Swedish: stad) in the year 1971. Only the word municipality (in Swedish: kommun) prevails, making no legal difference between Stockholm and a countryside municipality. Before that there were a number of terms like "stad"/Town, "köping"/large village etc. The definition of City/Town (stad) was merely that it was given such a title.

I think that about covers it, though I can post more if necessary.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Freeky

#82
October 01, 2012, 06:46:05 PM
So it's basically based on population, and in some cases by what sort of municipal services (hospital, firefighters, schools, museums, etc.)  yes?

Nephew Twiddleton

#83
October 01, 2012, 06:46:52 PM
Also if the place was built on rock and roll then it automatically is granted city status. But rog covered it. If theres a lot of people living in the same area of europe its a european city.
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The Good Reverend Roger

#84
October 01, 2012, 06:52:10 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 01, 2012, 06:46:52 PM
Also if the place was built on rock and roll then it automatically is granted city status. But rog covered it. If theres a lot of people living in the same area of europe its a european city.

A better way to say it is that all European nations have different standards of what a "city" is.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#85
October 01, 2012, 06:56:29 PM
I can't remember: what's the point he was trying to make?

The Good Reverend Roger

#86
October 01, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 01, 2012, 06:56:29 PM
I can't remember: what's the point he was trying to make?

That unfurnished countries don't have cities like Europe does.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Freeky

#87
October 01, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 01, 2012, 06:56:29 PM
I can't remember: what's the point he was trying to make?

Did anybody know in the first place, including holist himself?

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 01, 2012, 07:01:52 PM
That unfurnished countries don't have cities like Europe does.

Ohh. 

The Good Reverend Roger

#88
October 01, 2012, 07:04:30 PM
Quote from: Dishonest Wanker on September 29, 2012, 09:21:15 PM
If you can't handle being pestered atrociously, and you don't wish to just conform to the tribethink here (oh, and there very much is one, though I'll get my head kicked in for this, I know), then you have no business coming here.

And this is why Holist will never get along ANYWHERE he goes.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nephew Twiddleton

#89
October 01, 2012, 07:05:51 PM
So a bit of the european cultural superiority in his head then?
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