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Unlimited "What defines a European city" urban theory debate thread

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, September 27, 2012, 05:47:08 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 01, 2012, 11:48:48 PM
It seems to me that regardless of whatever the word city has in whatever european language the basic criteria seems to be human settlement with large population and population density. What makes these other cities not cities by the basic understood meaning of the word? Does hungary have  particularly narrow definition? If so does boston meet the criteria? If not is it not a really real city even though the usa says it is? Why are you trying to impose your own definition of city on developing nations and not other nations that have slightly different meanings for city than you?

Well, and then there's the question of whether Hungary has ANY first-world cities, despite being a second-world nation? If not, are second-world cities still really "cities" in the "European sense"?
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Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 02, 2012, 12:24:25 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 01, 2012, 11:48:48 PM
It seems to me that regardless of whatever the word city has in whatever european language the basic criteria seems to be human settlement with large population and population density. What makes these other cities not cities by the basic understood meaning of the word? Does hungary have  particularly narrow definition? If so does boston meet the criteria? If not is it not a really real city even though the usa says it is? Why are you trying to impose your own definition of city on developing nations and not other nations that have slightly different meanings for city than you?

Well, and then there's the question of whether Hungary has ANY first-world cities, despite being a second-world nation? If not, are second-world cities still really "cities" in the "European sense"?

Not after 1956.

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2012, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on October 02, 2012, 12:24:25 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on October 01, 2012, 11:48:48 PM
It seems to me that regardless of whatever the word city has in whatever european language the basic criteria seems to be human settlement with large population and population density. What makes these other cities not cities by the basic understood meaning of the word? Does hungary have  particularly narrow definition? If so does boston meet the criteria? If not is it not a really real city even though the usa says it is? Why are you trying to impose your own definition of city on developing nations and not other nations that have slightly different meanings for city than you?

Well, and then there's the question of whether Hungary has ANY first-world cities, despite being a second-world nation? If not, are second-world cities still really "cities" in the "European sense"?

Not after 1956.

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Quote from: Faust on October 01, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
I have never been in a two european cities that felt the same. Thread title annoys me and causes a knee jerk reaction.

Yeah. I've complained about it already.
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Faust

Quote from: Dishonest Wanker on October 02, 2012, 06:49:06 AM
Quote from: Faust on October 01, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
I have never been in a two european cities that felt the same. Thread title annoys me and causes a knee jerk reaction.

Yeah. I've complained about it already.

Oh did you? I generally don't read your posts. I retract my objection so.
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Dildo Argentino

Quote from: Faust on October 02, 2012, 08:18:50 AM
Quote from: Dishonest Wanker on October 02, 2012, 06:49:06 AM
Quote from: Faust on October 01, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
I have never been in a two european cities that felt the same. Thread title annoys me and causes a knee jerk reaction.

Yeah. I've complained about it already.

Oh did you? I generally don't read your posts. I retract my objection so.

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Not too keen on rigor, myself - reminds me of mortis